TL;DR Start with proper setup: adjust brakes and tension, practice smooth casting motion, and use thumb control.
Understanding Different Reels
Baitcasting reels are designed for heavier lines and precise casting, often used in bass fishing [1:1]. They differ from spinning reels, which are better for lighter lines and smaller presentations. Closed-face reels are typically beginner-friendly
[1:1]. Understanding these differences can help you choose the right reel for your fishing needs.
Setting Up Your Baitcaster
Proper setup is crucial for successful baitcasting. Adjust the spool tension knob so that your lure falls slowly when the thumb bar is released [3:2]
[5:2]. The tension should be tight enough to prevent side-to-side wobble but not so tight that it limits casting distance
[5:1]. Brakes should be set according to lure weight, with higher settings for beginners to prevent backlash
[3:6].
Casting Technique
A smooth casting motion is essential. Avoid whipping the rod and instead focus on a fluid motion that allows the lure to load the rod [3:5]
[5:4]. Practice short casts initially and gradually increase distance as you become more comfortable. Thumb control is important to slow down the spool before the lure hits the water, preventing backlash
[5:1].
Common Issues and Solutions
Many anglers experience issues like bird's nests or short casts when starting with baitcasters. These problems often arise from improper setup or technique [5]. Using electrical tape on the spool can limit line unraveling during practice
[5:3]. Watching instructional videos can also provide valuable insights into proper casting techniques
[5:5].
Personal Preferences and Adjustments
Some anglers prefer using reels with their non-dominant hand for comfort and efficiency [2:2]
[2:4]. Experiment with different setups to find what feels best for you. Additionally, consider the type of baitcaster you are using; some may require specific adjustments based on their design
[3:1].
Hello everyone. I just recently decided to seriously get into fishing and I’ve known about the different reels for a while. Your baitcasters, open faced spinning reels, closed faced spinning reels, etc and how to use them but never really cared to know their intended purposes. I know that baitcasters are more designed for bass fishing with lures. I was wondering if someone could explain to me what the others are intended for? I have a few of each but never knew what their purposes were. Thank you in advance!
Spinning Reels generally hold smaller lines, cast smaller presentations better, and have a better drag to fight and wear out the fish.
Baitcasters can hold lots of heavier lines and cast very accurately and act more as a winch to pull fish from the water.
Closed-face reels are generally a beginner reel. I usually keep one to target baitfish or lend out to people.
BFS, or Bait Finesse System, allows for Baitcasters to throw micro-sized lures on super light lines and is the exception to the general uses above.
Awesome. That clears it up. Thank you
I really hope this video helps. I was going to post this as two separate videos but I decided to just stitch them together so I’m really sorry for the longer length and the auto generated captions didn’t like my annunciation of “baitcaster” :/
If ya’ll have any additional pieces of information you would like to add, please feel free to add it down below in the comments!
That was pretty good. The only thing I would point out, is that is a left handed reel, and not a right handed one. About 50% of people will prefer to use the non-dominant hand reel. I am right handed and prefer a left handed reel, I like to turn and crank with my non-dominant left hand, and work the rod with my dominant right hand.
Never understood why people switch, I feel if you cast with your right you should be reeling with the left. It's so much faster
The speed at which I can begin reeling does not feel important enough to look last the comfort of right hand reeling and switch to left hand. I do not feel that the half second saved is the half second that makes or breaks whether I land a fish
I think there's more to it than what's faster.
There's people who are right hand/left eye/left foot dominant who will prefer to switch because they want to stand differently where maybe right hand/right eye/right foot dominant people would not.
I've tried to learn to reel with my left hand and honestly it's been easier to learn to cast with it if I don't want to switch
I’m left handed and prefer a right handed reel! I won’t buy spinners that I can’t change to the right hand haha.
I think it’s just one of those “whatever feels right” things.
Came to say this. I use LH reels and that good Sir, is one.
Spinning I do right hand, bait caster I do left. I don't know why, that's just how I've done it.
Funnily enough I have been thinking of swapping my spinning to left handed and I have no real reason to
I’m hoping to get it all answered in some form or fashion at some point haha! I wouldn’t quite say I’m pin worthy since I don’t include some things past an intermediate fisherman’s taste, but it really does mean a lot to hear that!
Totally, however from what I see fishing subs seem to get 75% of their posts from people brand new to it. So things like this will definitely help them a lot.
Not all bait casting rods have that finger grip on it, it tends to be more for the bigger bait casting rods/ non low profile. However another sign is that the eyelets will be a lot smaller.
Also it’s good to mention the fact that the magnetic brakes are possibly inside the reel panel so just because they don’t see it on the outside doesn’t mean it doesn’t have it.
And it’s good to mention how much line you have spoiled on since it’s a set up video. To get the ideal amount of line you should look at the spool of line and the edge of the spool. The top of the spool / where it begins to bevel off should be about 1/8th of an inch above the line you have spooled on.
Just a few things I thought about while watching the first couple minutes that could be useful to new people
Thank you! I’ll be sure to include that in any later videos!
Over the last 2 years I have tried to learn how to use a baitcaster, to no avail.
I first tried with a cheap Chinese one, that had what looked like decent reviews on Amazon:
Then I thought maybe it's the cheap reel?
So I stepped a little bit and bought an Abu Garcia Revo SX. I still struggle a lot with it. If I try to cast for any distance, I get a mess of knots. I can only seem to cast it for about 20-30 feet consistently. Even watching and trying my best to follow videos of how to cast with it, does not help.
What I have done is have thick monofilament base (to fill half the spool), the bought like 50 lbs braid (I heard to do this since braid is so thin relatively, which causes it to embed in the spool). Casting mostly frogs and crankbaits, still having trouble.
Any suggestions? I'd love to do those nice long smooth casts, and eventually learn how to do those underhanded casts and skips, but can't seem to even get a basic fundamental cast down.
Hey man, literally started baitcast fishing about a month ago and haven’t had many issues.
Try turning your brake up to ~8 (assuming 1-10 ratio) and tightening up your spool tensioner knob until your lure barely falls when you open your thumb bar.
You should be able to let your lure drop and hit the ground without thumbing it and without backlash.
Try that first and loosen it up one minor adjustment at a time.
I picked up a $100 rod and reel combo and have had a lot of success. Good luck!
I've tried this, but then unable to get any distance. My really doesn't have numbers on the brake.
This is bad advice. Only tighten the knob until you stop getting side to side motion wiggling it with your thumb. No tighter. Don't try to avoid learning to thumb. You're trading all your casting distance for a band-aid.
The breaks are dependent on the weight of the lure. Unless it's a light lure, you're probably fine somewhere in the 4-6 range if its, say 1/2oz.
Something else is going on here. Perhaps:
There's some starting points to address. But, don't do anything of this cheating crap by tightening down everything to oblivion.
GL!
Don't try for distance at first. If you only have limited time to fish, use your backyard to practice. When i first started back in the late 70's/early 80's I was surf fishing but didn't live near the beach. I practiced at the local Jr. Highs football field with my surf rods. And in my backyard with my bass tackle. My beginning reels for surf fishing were the old school Penn Squidder, Ambassadeur 7000 and a Penn mag 980. For fresh water were the Ambassadeur 4600, 5500 and Shimano Bantam mags.
How much weight are you throwing?
This advice doesn't work for all baitcaster reels. Alot of the new reels now you don't even want to mess with the spool tension knob, just adjust the brakes themselves.
If it's been two years and u still haven't had progress, it's not the baitcaster. Your technique is seriously flawed in some way. Impossible for us to help u on here without seeing a video of you trying to cast. PM me with a vid if u like
Smooth casting motion and the correct rod for the lure weight.
The lure weight (actual weight) should be around the middle to upper range of the rod rating.
Put the brakes at 75% ish. Adjust the spool tension to just where the spool starts to click side to side.
Smoooth casting motion, don't try to whip it. Make sure the lure loads up the rod. Start with slow casting. Make sure to hover your thumb over the spool barely making very gentle contact and then thumb/stop the spool right as it hits
That may be my problem. I may be using too heavy of a rod comparatively to my lure weight.... I'll have to look into this.
I didn't even know rods have lure weight ratings... I thought they have line lbs rating and action type.
Bingo. That’s a big part of the problem
A typical baitcaster will be mag or centrifugal now days.
Traditional style ambassadeurs are centrifugal, meaning on the spool shaft are a block on each side of a thin rod. Make sure both are on.
Magnetic control (mags) will have a dial. Start at the higher numbers.
Both will have a side tension knob as well. adjust that so the weight you use will slowly drop when in freespool and your thumb not touching the spool. The spool will stop when the weight hits the ground.
Those are your starting points.
Now remove that braid and put a lighter mono, such as 12/15lb on it. Right now your trying to learn and braid isn't beginner friendly for baitcasting.
Practice. If fishing, use an old school rig with sinker and bait to start with. Practice. Or heavier lures such as spoons or bucktails/jigs. Practice! Or use your backyard and put a heavier weight on then you'd typically use.
practice. See the theme!
The heavier weight will let you lob it as right now your main thing is to get accustomed to the feel of the cast and how everything goes and how overruns/backlashes start. Trying to force a light weight to go anywhere without a sudden backlash is difficult when first starting. Thats why i say heavier weight and a lob.
When comfortable, see if you can start casting right by actually casting and not lobbing it anymore.
When comfortable with that, use less weight.
Then remove a block (centrifugal) or dial down a bit to a 6 or about halfway or so on the mag dial.
When good, loosen up the spool tension knob, just to where you feel the spool start to go side to side, but don't let it so stop
Then you can start going for accuracy and distance. Don't rush on that. It may be the most important part for success as far as catching but if you can't control the spool, accuracy and distance won't be important.
You may need to play with the adjustments a bit but by then you'd be good to go with normal weight lures. Anything lightweight and wind resistant, stick to the spinning rods.
Start with weight and lobbing at first.
It won't be long until your using less tension and overrun controls to get accuracy and distance.
Imo your tension knob is more important than the breaks. Tune that so the bait barely falls. I’d have the breaks set mid to high but not all the way tight. Practice short casts before you try bombing it out.
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I have been seeing, so many comments that are like "I hate baitcasters, they suck to many tangles, etc." But baitcasters are great and here are some tips that I think will help you.
(If you would like a guide on how to spool them just ask and you will recieve)
What baitcaster should I get then? You should get a Abu Garcia Black Maxx Baitcaster. There is also a blue max If you are buying to by them both if you are only buying one by then buy the black max, then for your second one get a blue max (which is taller, stronger, and one peice)
First, (you only have to do this with non-rubber baits, but it is still good to do with rubber incase they are heavier or you are getting tons of tangles) tie on your lure then press the button when it hits the ground does it tangle? If it does adjust the knob if it does not don't do any thing.
Say you are tangled/hooked on a log DON'T yank with all your might. Carefully maneuver it out of the log, tree, etc.
You should use braided line WITH fluro-carbon leaders 3- 10 feet in length.
Put your line on like normal, but them tie it to something then press the button that lets out line and walk backwards until there is no more line left then keep tension on on the line and reel in.
Any more questions feel free to ask! I will be glad to answer!
It is so good bc you can cast into precise spots, feel when it touches the bottom, and get more action into your lures. There are any other reasons, but these are just the general ones.
For more images/things about baitcasting check out r/ baitcasting
A baitcasting setup is actually much more sensitive than a spinning setup because the guides are smaller and the line is more direct to your hand. No spool tension (hair of side to side movement in the spool), cast with 2'-3' of line hanging from your rod tip (slows down the transfer of energy from your rod to your lure), index finger on the trigger so that you can feather the spool properly.
is this explaining baitcasters?
Yep. Doing these things will increase performance drastically.
Spool tension is not needed, it limits your distance and performance. Brakes are enough. Cast with at least two to three feet of line when going for distance. This slows down the transfer of energy from your rod to your lure (think trebuchet). This reduces the initial spool startup speed lowering the chance for backlashes. Cast with your index finger on the trigger so that you can feather the spool properly with your thumb.
That is not always true. Especially when your a beginner
For a beginner just turn the brakes to max. Almost impossible to backlash. This is why Daiwa created the zero adjust spool tension knob. It's factory set to be slightly loose. Most baitcasters are over braked anyway.
Much smaller and lighter too. And they take up less space on the deck of your boat.
Mainly I’m much more accurate with a bait caster and hook sets feel more powerful to me.
I use spinning reels for finess only so I only have 2 and usually just carry 1 for drop shot. The other ones a backup.
I use spinning when surf-fishing. Mostly other then that I use Baitcasters. BFS baitcaster (that are top-of-the-line mostly if not when it comes to BFS they are trash) seem to work for me although a finess spinning combo is nice to have.
Just a little to add on to points 2 and 4 :
Set your knob to where the bait doesn’t move until you twitch the end of your pole, if it’s falling as soon as you hit the release you have your weight knob set too light. It should fall about 6-8 inches per second after twitching. Keep your thumb near the spool when casting, and right before it hits the water, slow it down by applying pressure with your thumb. Most backlash is caused when the speed of the lure slows down after hitting the water, since the spool is still putting out line but the lure isn’t going any further.
Your line doesn’t have to be braided, I use mono on all of my baitcasters, just make sure you’re using a test that matches the reel and rod. Get a bait caster with a line guide, as these are specifically made for casting and put the line on the spool in tight loops as opposed to doing it with your finger where you may cross over to each side too fast and make it harder to get the line off the spool when casting. This one mostly applies to larger casters though.
Idkw I did not add that you do not have to use braided line. And I just put on the line like normal then, tie it to something and walk back until all the line is out then, keeping pressure on the line reel in and it will make it all straight. For me it is easier.
edit: sometimes when I am fishing weight-less texas rigs I like to adjust it where it may barely move so it can get rando bites from finicky bass/ I am not paying attention.
I have the black max and love it. Especially for heavier lures. Casts a mile.
I know I have the black max X not many places sell it, but I love it.
After 35 years of fishing saltwater and freshwater with spinning reels, conventional reels and fly rods. I decided to pick up a bait casting reel and rod combo. I felt like it was my first time fishing, and I had no clue what was going on. I watched five YouTube videos on how to set up my real properly but every single time I cast I’d either send it 20 feet short to the left or the reel just became an absolute bird’s nest.
What am I doing wrong and what’s the easiest way to start?
Here's how I set up my reels. I tie on my chosen lure. Tighten the tension knob a little bit. Hold the rod with the tip at about head height. Depress the thumb bar and let the lure free fall. If it doesn't fall, loosen the tension knob. When the lure hits the ground, I watch the spool. It should only do about half a turn after the lure hits the ground. If it keeps turning, the tension is too loose. Repeat a couple of times until you get it down. When you're just beginning, it may help to set it where the spool stops as soon as the lure contacts the ground.
Next, I go ahead and turn the brakes all the way up. Magnetic brakes max them out. If you have centrifugal brakes, make sure all the pins are free to move. Now it's time to make your first cast. You said your lure was just going to the left, so I assume you may be trying a sidearm cast. Some people dont recommend it, but I say start out with an overhead cast. A gentle one.
Hold the rod out with your thumb pointing to the inside of your body, so your whole rod and reel is rolled about 90 degrees instead of the reel being straight up. Lift the rod up to about vertical or just slightly past and without pausing, flick it forward with your wrist. Release the line with your thumb as you flick. Watch your lure, and as it's about to make contact with the ground, stop the spool with your thumb.
Here's where you need to pay attention to your spool. If you didn't have any backlash, you could back the brakes off some. You can continue to do that each cast until you start to have a bit of overun. If the overrun happens at the beginning of a cast, you need more brakes. If everything is fine, but the end of the cast results in an overrun, you need more spool tension.
It takes some practice to learn when to release your thumb and cast. Start out in your yard with the brake kinda tight but not overly tight. Push the button and it should fall to the ground kinda slow but be free to fall. Make short cast till you're better, then start easing off on the brake a little at a time. Do not whip the rod. Cast smooth.
Practice, You'll get it.
I like to use a piece of electrical tape on my spool and line at about 50 yards to stop it from doing this. If I get a bite and a fish takes line it won’t hurt nothing and helps practice getting that feel too without unraveling a whole reel.
Not sure what videos you watched but give this one a shot, it’s my favorite and the most accurate and helpful one I’ve come across: https://youtu.be/4XI23wQmxkU?si=4x38d1I20mA5KTOs
Is the over run happening at the end or the beginning of the cast? If it starts already at the start of the cast, then the tension knob is too loose. You can also look for side to side wobble in the spool. When beginning or new to baitcasting I recommend no side to side play. That makes the tension tighter so less casting distance but will help tremendously with casting.
If midcast or toward the end then it’s braking and thumb control. You can up the brakes to help, but thumb control is very important too. For this, I always suggest taking a 1/2oz jig, without a hook or with one, and practing just letting it free fall and thumbing it so it hits the floor without backlashing. This will help learn feathering the spool with your thumb, and helps learn to loosen the tension knob as well until you start over spinning just from free fall.
Another thing to consider is lure weight. Heavier lures work better when starting, and blade baits like spinners catch air and tend to backlash. So keep that in mind too.
I’ve been fishing for largemouth bass for about a year and a half using a spinning rod and reel, and I love it. But now I’m debating—should I stick with a spinning setup or make the switch to a baitcaster?
From what I’ve heard, baitcasters offer more precision and control, while spinning reels are better for lighter lures.
Are there certain situations where one clearly outperforms the other? And which lures work best for each setup.
They both have their place. A lot of it is personal preference.
I prefer spinning for finesse... Ned rigs, weightless soft plastic, drop shot, etc. smoother drag on spinning reels. These can all be done on casting gear with the right setup... I just prefer spinning.
I prefer spinning too, and only have baitcasters on my 2 catfish rods, so not really doing retrieves/techniques with them. I mainly do finesse fishing for bass and panfish, but I also use a medium-fast St Croix rod with a Shimano Sahara 3000 high gear spinning reel for crankbaits, jerkbaits, spinnerbaits, and a-rigs up to 3/4oz. Catch plenty of bass with it so I’m not really seeing a need to change.
I love my baitcasters too and have more casting setups than spinning. They each have their place.
I can throw crankbaits on a spinning setup but I much prefer to use a baitcaster. Same with spinnerbaits, jigs... all sorts of lures.
At the end of the day it's purely a preference. I can throw any presentation or lure on both a spinning or casting setup
I am pretty evenly split. I use spinning for ned rigs, drop shots, small underspins, senkos, hair jigs, etc. I use baitcasters for jerkbaits, crank baits, jigs, topwaters, spinnerbaits, etc.
Each lure has a very specific rod that will work best. Thing is, most of us don't have the money or space to bring a technique specific rod for everything we own, so its really up to the user to determine what works best for you with what you have.
If you struggle with a baitcaster and don't enjoy using it, then a heavier action spinning rod will work just fine for your jigs. If you love baitcasters, you'll have better casting accuracy and sensitivity when working the jig. This pretty much goes for all techniques.
> Thing is, most of us don't have the money or space to bring a technique specific rod for everything we own
Your kids don't need to eat or have a bedroom and debt doesn't matter when you're dead so YOLO it my friend
On a real note you're correct. Each technique has things that excel at it, but ultimately its to you to figure out how to make your own gear work with what you have.
That's the answer
Spinning. What i learned early and don't want to bird nest my reel to learn a new technique. Basically I'm old and don't wanna learn a new trick.
Samesies
I'm not a good enough fisherman for it to make a difference!
Amen, brother! The best rod is the one you have.
I prefer to never have to fuck with a rats nest in my reel. Does that answer your question?
I only picked up a bait caster a month or so ago but I have been casting, fishing, and practice casting a lot in that time. My typical roll cast is only 30 yards or so.
Setup:
Lure weights: about 3/8 oz
Rod: Berkley lightning rod, 7' medium.
Reel: Shimano Curado 201DHSV. Bearing set - 2 out (any less and I get backlash). Spool tension set so bait falls fairly quick.
Line: 12lb test monofilament.
Is there something wrong with my setup? What can I do to improve my distance?
How far are you expecting to cast? Typical casts are usually 25-30yds. I don't know how much further you're going to be able to achieve with a 3/8oz lure.
That is helpful. I see the pros casting 3-4 times that distance regularly. I guess when I am comfortable that I am not going to blow up my spool, I'll switch to braid which should allow a much further cast.
>I see the pros casting 3-4 times that distance regularly.
No, they aren't. No one is casting 75-90yds on a bass rod. It may look longer but they are casting the same 25-30yds as you. Maybe out to 40-50 max.
You can cast further with different setups but for similar setups to what you're using no one is casting that far.
A hundred yards is surf casting territory and those guys have custom reels and 12 foot rods.
Most pros nowadays leave their horizontal distance on their forward facing looking out about as far as they can cast and most guys recommend 80-100ft. You're bombing that bait, homie
Cameras make it so the distance looks massive, but its not
This. I’ve got two Curado 201 HG DC’s. One with braid and one with mono. They cast really well in general (my two cents), but if you really want to put your lure WAY out there…try a heavier one.
Baitcasters for me as a mostly bank fisherman are purely situational. If you’re looking for distance I’d go with a spinning reel. If you’re sticking with your baitcaster tho assuming your brake settings and stuff are all correct, increase the weight of your lure and maybe try a different type and size line. The smaller the better
i have the same rod with a cheap reel baitcaster lews. I cast in the 30-40 yards most probably, 1/4oz is enough for me. Im on a 20lbs braid and 10lbs fluoro leader. make sure you dont brute force your cast, the smoother the further.
With a j8 Rapala I can get about 40 yards max if the stars align on a cast and I really give it. Something like a mepps #5 I can cast 55ish yards. Maybe even farther. Weight makes a big difference. Something as simple as a slightly bigger jig head can add 10 yards to you max range.
Switching to 20 or 30 lb braid will probably get you some additional distance. Most of your challenge is just learning the technique. If your prior experience is with a spinning reel, baitcaster's reward a cast that has more acceleration to a stop than what you may have learned with a spin reel.
“Acceleration to a stop”. Can you elaborate on this?
Watched a couple vids online. Still trying to get the hang of it. Am I suppose to stop the line with my thumb before my bait hits the water so it doesn’t birdnest? I always just let it hit the water on a spinning reel and then close the bail but the baitcaster mechanics have me thinking I’ve been fishing wrong the whole time lol
Also I tried fishing at night with a baitcaster and it was a disaster because I couldn’t see the bait before it hit the water so I didn’t know when to stop the line.
Bird-nesting is a fact of life for casting baitcasters. But you can reduce the frequency by tuning the baitcaster correctly. It's good practice to do this whenever you tie on a new lure, and it only takes a few seconds once you get the hang of it.
First, tie on the lure of choice. Second, hold the rod tip up at a high angle and click the release. Let the lure fall and hit the ground. The spool should stop spinning or should only overspin just a touch. If it DOES continue to spin, the brake on the baitcaster is set too low. Tighten the brake just a little, then repeat the process until you get the desired result. This should give you a lot more control over your cast and should reduce your birdsnest frequency (unless you snag your lure in a tree over your head or something).
If you're unsure of where the brake is, it's the small knob on the same side as the handle. It works like a screw. Many baitcasters will also have a dial on the side opposite the handle. That serves to more finely tune the brake after you get the main brake adjusted. I usually just set that dial to "7", or whatever is between medium and high, and leave it, and do most of my adjustments on the main brake.
Don't mistake the brake for the drag (common misconception). The drag is the star-shaped piece on the handle between the handle and the body of the reel. Turning that away from you increases the drag. turning it toward you decreases it.
I’m happy I came to this thread and found your reply. This is really knowledgeable stuff, thank you. I have a spinning rod now but I’m soon to change to a baitcaster.
I'd keep both honestly. Baitcasters are a lot worse for fishing in heavy current and jigging from a boat. It's just nice to have options.
This is mostly wrong. The knob on the handle-side isn’t a “brake” but the knob that adjusts spool tension. The brake system is adjusted via a dial on the non-handle side (most magnetic systems) and/or on the spool it’s self (most centrifugal systems).
Setting the spool tension as tight as you are suggesting is counterproductive as it means that you need to use far too much force to get any casting distance, which increases the chance of backlashing.
A far better method is to keep the spool tension set so that the lure drops briskly and takes some thumb to slow. Then set the braking system to full and start casting. As one’s thumb get’s better the brakes can be turned down to increase casting distance.
There are two main braking systems used in casting reels, both do the same job but get there in different ways. If you know what system your reel uses you can get the reel set up for your specific system, but locking the spool tension down isn’t correct for any of them.
I stand corrected. But my goal in my advice was not to increase the OP's casting distance, but rather get comfortable with the baitcaster without being discouraged by backlashes. Get comfortable with the mechanics first. Develop the muscle memory. Then work on distance. Release the tension as you become more confident. It worked for me (many years ago), and it's my go-too on my Lew's SpeedSpool LFS. Now I can fling crankbaits 65+ yards if need be, and rarely backlash.
Stop the spool before the bait hits the water. Give it a few months to get used to. And then give it a few more for the touch and feel to use it in the dark!
Get decent braid. 30lb 8 strand. Use a heavyish lure. In open water. Overhead cast thumb the spool before the bait hits water. Spend a day doing this and younwill be fine
Just my two cents, if you've put new mono line on it, put a lead swivel on the end and case out as far as you can about 10 times, this will let the line uncoil and reduce your birdnesting.
In order to get the best performance possible from a baitcaster, make sure that you're not using any spool tension. Just use enough to keep the spool from wiggling side to side. A small amount of movement is okay. This will give you increased overall distance, a better working drag, and reduced backlashes. Use the magnetic or centrifugal cast control only to control potential backlashes. The rest is thumb work. More cast control requires less thumbing and reduced distance, less cast control requires more thumbing with the potential for increased distance. The spool tension knob which is a mechanical brake will hinder distance and performance. This is why Daiwa created the zero adjust spool tension knob. Happy fishing and tight lines out there!
I tried for months to learn how to use a bait caster. No matter what adjustments I would make I just kept back lashing. I just ended up wishing I had gotten a higher end spinning reel.
Contrary to what you might hear, setting up a baitcaster is a very simple process. You don't have to constantly fiddle with adjustments until you find some magical golden zone. Set brakes to like 70%, set the tension knob until the lure falls to the ground in 1-2 seconds, and go fishing. If you're still backlashing here it is no longer an adjustment issue, so stop touching it.
Lure size can be a big factor. If you're trying to throw something too big or too small for your rod and/or reel, you'll have problems. Line weight and type can be a factor too. Casting too big of a leader knot through the guides can be a big problem. Wind can be a factor.
Probably though it's just casting technique. Beginners tend to act like they're cutting someone in half with their swing. You really don't need to do that with a baitcaster because there's far less friction. Smooth casting is key, both for accuracy and for avoiding backlash.
Keep at it! If you can learn to use it well, in my opinion a baitcaster is way more fun to use.
What reel / line / lure?
For beginners you definitely want to use a bit of spool tension while you get used to it. You'll lose distance yes, but that's part of learning.
As a beginner I started with the OP's method and it was easy. You just crank the magnetic brakes to max and work your way down.
Way better than worrying about two knobs and doesn't rob you casting distance later.
People learn things in different ways and at different rates. My advice would be if you're getting a lot of backlashes don't be afraid to touch the tension knob while you get better at the mechanics of a baitcaster.
I've been fishing with a spinning reel combo for a while now and have really gotten into fishing (bass, walleye, pike, trout). Would it be worth it to spend 100-250 on a baitcasting combo? Are there any benefits to it over a spinning reel and are there any tips and tricks to learning to use one? Thank you.
Baitcaster can have a few niche advantages over spinning.
There are quite a few downsides though.
Downsides, like what? Being better in every way? Bfs reels have fiiled the gap in ultra light fishing that was the only reason to stick with spinning gear for that purpose. Baitcasters are just way more fun, fast, and accurate. I have been steadily replacing my spinning combos with baitcasting setups, with no regrets. The only reason I even keep my spinning combos around is for who don't have their own fishing stuff
I don't see enough people mentioning the fun factor! A hood baitcaster is just plain fun to use. Some would argue catching fish is more fun, and picking backlashes is very much not fun, but eventually experiences fixes those.
Are backlashes really that common? I started my 5 year old on a baitcaster about 2 weeks ago and we go fishing nearly every day and he has had 2 birds nests in that time both of which were on his first day. If a 5 year old can figure it out....
Do you need a baitcaster? Not really. Can you catch all species on a spinning setup? Yes, absolutely.
Casting far should not be more difficult. You’re not setup correctly or have a crappy reel.
The mere fact that you can buy a crappy bait caster reel that makes it more difficult to cast should be a sign not to get one.
It is more difficult with baitcasters, and generally baitcasters don't cast as far as spinning reels. Due to the mechanics of the reel, a baitcaster has tension and brakes meaning you need to load a baitcaster rod much more carefully before release, or your local crow will find a ready nest. It is much more sensitive to technique, and consider that the advantage of a baitcaster (more casts/time unit) is lost with just a single bird's-nest. Whereas a spinning rod you can throw all your strength into a cast without worrying.
I use both just because I enjoy changing it up and some techniques do work better with baitcasters and vice-versa..
I tried a bait caster. Not worth it. Birdnests are just a huge pain in the ass to deal with. My last fishing trip I limited out with my spinning reel while my friend got skunked with his bait caster.
So you never learned to properly use one then is what you are saying, and attributing your friend getting skunked to his reel… I hope to god OP can sniff out the immaturity and lack of experience in responses like this.
I'm not attributing him getting skunked to his bait caster. My point was it's not going to make a difference on how many fish you catch
Biggest benefit is being able to quickly cast and recast to cover a lot of water. I use my new baitcaster for reactionary baits (spinnerbaits, crankbaits, whopper ploppers, chatterbaits, ect). Basically baits you cast out and reel in and recast out again and again.
My spinning reel, on the other hand, is for slower more finesse techniques like texas rigs, wacky rigs, drop shots, ect. You're not casting these as often and it's a lot slower retrieves.
That is the biggest benefit imo after using my first baitcaster for about 2 months now. I love it.
baitcasting reel casting techniques
Key Considerations for Baitcasting Reel Casting Techniques
Understanding the Gear: Familiarize yourself with the components of your baitcasting reel, including the spool, brake system, and drag. Proper adjustment of these elements is crucial for effective casting.
Proper Setup: Ensure your rod and reel are matched correctly. A medium to heavy rod paired with a suitable line (braid or fluorocarbon) will enhance your casting performance.
Grip and Stance:
Casting Motion:
Using the Brakes: Adjust the reel's braking system to prevent backlashes. Start with a higher brake setting until you become more comfortable with your casting technique.
Practice Timing: Timing is crucial. Release the line just as the rod reaches its peak forward motion for maximum distance and accuracy.
Adjusting for Wind: Cast slightly upwind to counteract wind resistance, which can affect your line's trajectory.
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By mastering these techniques, you'll enhance your baitcasting skills and improve your overall fishing experience.
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