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Beginner Ballet Exercises

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  • Focus on balance, strength, and flexibility.
  • Utilize online resources like Everyday Ballet and Kathryn Morgan for structured guidance.

Balance and Strength

For beginners looking to improve balance and strength, using a balance board can be beneficial. Exercises such as tendues, ronde de jambes, and developes performed on a balance board can enhance stability [1:1]. Additionally, rapid rises into positions like coupe and passe can help build muscle memory and core strength. Complement these exercises with traditional strength training moves such as pushups, squats, and calf raises to support overall physical development [1:4].

Online Resources and Classes

There are several online resources available for beginner ballet workouts. Everyday Ballet offers a series that builds up slowly, making it suitable for those starting from scratch or returning after a break [1:2]. Kathryn Morgan's follow-along classes are also recommended for improving technique and understanding ballet terminology [2:1]. These resources provide structured guidance and can be accessed at your convenience.

Flexibility and Core Strength

Improving flexibility is crucial for ballet, and exercises like planks and bridges can strengthen the core and glutes, which are essential for maintaining balance and posture [1:6]. Pilates can complement ballet training by enhancing flexibility and core strength, providing a solid foundation for more advanced movements [4].

Understanding Ballet Terminology

Familiarizing yourself with ballet terminology can ease the learning curve. Watching beginner ballet classes online to see the names and movements can be helpful [2:3]. Books like "Technical Manual and Dictionary of Classical Ballet" and "Basic Principles of Classical Ballet" offer comprehensive insights into ballet steps and techniques [5:3].

Beginner Steps and Technique Building

It's important to differentiate between learning steps and building technique. Beginner steps like pliés, tendus, and relevés form the basis of ballet and should be practiced regularly [5:1]. Technique building involves mastering these steps correctly, which requires patience and consistent practice. For those not in beginner classes, private lessons or YouTube tutorials can help bridge the gap and ensure proper technique is developed [4:2], [5:5].

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is there any really good ballet workouts for beginners?

Posted by bandqid · in r/BALLET · 2 years ago
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i already do some but i feel like theyre not working so well and i really need and want to get better before december

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[deleted] · 2 years ago

Everyday Ballet has a good beginner series. You can do a trial for a week first. I wasn't sure if it was a ballet class or an exercise class, but once I used it for a while, it seems to be a strongly ballet-based workout? In any case, she builds up slowly and after each video you can go a little farther. It was a good beginner workout for me because I'm starting again after years of sedentary lifestyle from medical issues.
https://www.everydayballet.com/
She also has a YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@everydayballet

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[deleted] · 2 years ago

Yes of course! :) But it might be helpful to know what your goals are first.

Barre (as an exercise) classes online can be good, and pilates can be too, but there's some follow-along classes at home that you can do daily if you really want to improve technique (Kathryn Morgan has a few 30 minute no intro's videos that I've downloaded and keep saved on a flashdrive that I keep permanently installed in my TV). If you're working on flexibility, that's a totally different thing though, and if you're a guy like me -- the advice is 100% completely different. Especially if you do partnering. And of course, if you're working to go on pointe, the advice will be completely different than if you're struggling with turns, which will be different from the advice I'd give if you were struggling with jumps. xD

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Delineated_Brabants · 2 years ago

if you're a guy like me -- the advice is 100% completely different.

Asking for a friend... what would that advice be for a guy then?

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[deleted] · 2 years ago

A lot of what we do is jumps and -- especially for partnering -- lifts. If you don't lift with your legs, you're going to hurt yourself or your partner, so a lot of it is just learning to use every single muscle in your thighs fully, while still holding your core properly. Besides that, there's a lot of back muscles for stability, and a small amount of arms.

Pushups, leg presses / squats, shoulder presses / overhead lifts, standing calf raises, and full body exercises like swimming, etc... will all be good for strength, but you're going to have to push a LOT harder than girls unless you want to stick out like a sore thumb. No one is expecting you to do oversplits, but building all that strength while staying flexible is hard, and if you don't go to the stretching room for 10-15 minutes after every single workout, you're going to fall seriously behind until it's a problem.

Realistically, I don't think girls need to do pushups, leg presses, or shoulder presses at all, but it's a HUGE part of what guys need to do.

These days I do ballet class twice a week, rehearsals once a week, swim once a week, and hit the gym twice a week, and do yin yoga sometimes in the morning if I can -- but if I'm going to be 100% honest, proprioception and body awareness training has been the best thing I ever did for my dancing and I would suggest it for literally anyone who actually wants to be good at dancing. I used to do zen meditation for years, tai chi, and even stuff like awareness through movement classes. Just like... to learn about your body and practice feeling all the little tiny muscles you're not used to feeling, ya know? Oh! And anatomy-based figure drawing. That has helped a lot too.

PS : Not an expert, obviously. This is just based on my own personal experience :)

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bandqid · OP · 2 years ago

i need to be more flexible and strong i think and i definetly need to get better balance

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Slight-Brush · 2 years ago

You need to ask your teacher.

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[deleted] · 2 years ago

For balance and strength, you could pick up a balance board (circular one) and stand on it doing tendues, ronde de jambes, and developes each morning for about 1 minute of each exercises on each foot, with little to no break inbetween (~10 minutes total exercises), then get off the balance board and start doing rapid rises into coupe, passe, etc... Just get up to passe as quickly as you can with your arms in 1st and try to stand there. Go back down, and repeat. Spend about 1 minute doing rapid rises into different positions, and you've got a 15 minute strength and balance routine you can do after brushing your teeth each morning.

At first, it might be quite hard and you probably won't be able to do ronde jambes on releve on the balance board (or even stand in releve on the balance board for very long, if we're being realistic) but actually -- if you're new to dance and put in daily work and are under the age of 40 / a lifelong learner (so that your brain is still quite plastic) -- then you'll probably improve a LOT with a routine like this.

Just keeping in mind that balance is often not nearly as much about strength as it is about going very very slowly and developing awareness / smoothing out the jerky motions. Your goal is NOT to look beautiful or do a good job here. It's to learn about your own body, and to just enjoy practicing body awareness and self exploration. That means you should experiment and try new things... If you've got a silly idea, DO IT! :)

There is a borderline infinite amount of awareness you could develop just going into passe from 5th... Are you paying attention to how the muscles move around your middle rib cage while you do it? No? Then you probably still have more to learn and need to dig a bit deeper. Every day you could focus on how a new muscle is connected to your passe and you'd barely finish before the 2 year mark is up!

But also -- ya know. Ask your teacher, not random strangers on the internet who are passionate, but not always 100% informed of the details of the situation or your body and it's limitations and what it enjoys.

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Red84Valentina · 2 years ago

Planks and bridges with body weights. A stronger core and activated glutes changes so much.

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Does anyone have any tips or things I should know before starting ballet?

Posted by Ratpiglovely · in r/BALLET · 3 years ago

I'm starting ballet in 2 weeks! I'm 14 and have been wanting to do it all my life but now's finally my time! Does anyone have any tips for me for starting ballet or just anything I should know?

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Gremlin_1989 · 3 years ago

Was going to say don't have high expectations of yourself, and enjoy it.

Be prepared for corrections. It's harder than it looks, simple exercises take more thinking about than you first think and are actually quite complex. If you go in expecting to be able to do everything and get frustrated that you're being told it's all wrong you'll loose your enthusiasm.

Ballet is amazing but hard.

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seat_belt_eater · 3 years ago

Maybe research some of of the terms so you'll be less confused and be more prepared. I suck at names so i'm doing this so i'll have less of a learning curve whenever i start. Also Ballet Misfit has some good beginner videos if you wanna get a head start

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Ratpiglovely · OP · 3 years ago

Thank you!

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lostgirl1983 · 3 years ago

Don't stress if your first class is overwhelming. You'll understand more each time you go. Just be brave, listen, and be ready to work hard.

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Semimusa · 3 years ago

Take your time! Don't worry about elevation and flexibility, that come with time and practice. You just have to care about the correct colocation of your body and enjoy!

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wimpdiver · 3 years ago

Just enjoy. Don't get discouraged if it takes a while - ballet is hard and expect a learning curve to learn the terminology, all the things your body has to do, etc. You might want to watch some beginning ballet classes on utube (rec Kathryn Morgan) - not to do the actual class but to see the names of things and what the movements look like.

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faboideae · 3 years ago

Yes absolutely this. I started at 14 as well, initially with private lessons. When I joined a group class I got so caught up in comparing myself to others. Try to remember why you started in the first place

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Ratpiglovely · OP · 3 years ago

Thank you! I have been watching dance with miss auti but I'll check our Kathryn Morgan too!

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Teaching absolute beginner

Posted by Reasonable_Cover4044 · in r/BALLET · 2 months ago

Hi yall! Not sure if this is allowed, but I’ve been dancing for almost 20 years so I’m trying to give my boyfriend (swimmer and waterpolo player, literally never danced in his life, so he’s got the strength and agility but not the technique or flexibility) a few quick and dirty ballet lessons before we start doing choreography for our college drag show next February (which I was invited to choreograph yay! However I’m not super versed in any other style so it’s gonna be pretty ballet-heavy 😅). Unfortunately, I haven’t been in beginning level ballet classes for about 15 years now, and I’ve completely forgotten what’s actually entry-level and what I just think is easy lol

Does all of this sound pretty doable for a first timer?

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taradactylus · 2 months ago

This is a LOT for a very first absolute beginner lesson… or even for someone who has finished an absolute beginner series. I am absolutely not a ballet instructor, nor am I qualified to be one, but both pirouettes and sauts de chat are pretty complex (in different ways) and require a lot of technique to have been acquired before they are introduced. Most absolute beginner classes are also predominantly barre with only a bit of center, with that balance gradually shifting as the students get more comfortable.

But hopefully some actual instructors will weigh in too!

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Pattern_Necessary · 2 months ago

My instructor makes us do jumps in first, second, and fifth, and basic turns from the first class so we get a feel for everything. I don't know if it's common. I like it because it seems ridiculously hard so it feels like we do need to practice it for as long as we can to get it right. some of the other people have already improved a lot.

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Reasonable_Cover4044 · OP · 2 months ago

OH yes sorry for not clarifying!! The plan is to start with one or two of the barre excercises at a time and gradually working up from there— Rn I’ve just been teaching him the positions and like. What all the basic barre steps /are/

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littlerunawayandaday · 2 months ago

when im a teacher one day, im using this lol

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doubleboogermot · 2 months ago

This is awesome

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SunkenSaltySiren · 2 months ago

This is great. It hits all the meat and potatoes. Some frappé and petite battements would be good.

I was giggling once I got to the 8844221111, because I grew up doing this, make all my students do this and had no idea how many other people do this as well. Our teacher laughed uproarously the first time we learned this, and she said we all looked like Milli Vanilli.

And you gotta get him doing some jumps. Guys are just so good at it.

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SunkenSaltySiren · 2 months ago

https://i.redd.it/4cpywd0seqdf1.gif

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Diligent_Platform_90 · 2 months ago

I think this is great for entry level, especially since you said that you've been teaching him bits and pieces. As long as you don't cram all of this into just one session and pick two-three per section of the class (barre, centre, across the floor, etc.), I think he'll be able to pick it up and you'll be able to polish them before you need to do choreography. Best of luck to both of you!

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Diligent_Platform_90 · 2 months ago

Just try and chop some exercises to the first 16 counts so he'd understand the rhythm, so that by the next session you can just add the remaining counts as he understands the movement of the first few counts. It's all just familiarizing the technique both in mind and body

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InternationalAd266 · 2 months ago

I like your playlist!

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Reasonable_Cover4044 · OP · 2 months ago

Thanks lol!! It’s all those fun little piano covers arranged for ballet class picked specifically to make him lose his shit when he clocks what song it is >:) here’s the Spotify link if you want it! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6q8hh3bpMx4b3QFoET7tYk?si=VAObtLMUTHKFJt8nervfqA&pi=bHGqsX9KQdqlW

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Posted by abcra112 · in r/BALLET · 13 days ago

I’m 18 and took my first adult beginner ballet class last week. I’ve never taken dance before, but I’ve done tumbling and lots of Pilates (I’m becoming a Pilates instructor). The teacher seemed surprised and a bit “overwhelmed” when I told her that I had no prior experience. Most of the adults in that class had been doing ballet for a while, and the class was very fast paced. She didn’t have much time to explain everything to me because most people in the class already knew all of the positions and combos. I had a great time, but am no doubt the worst in the class lol. I’m wondering if it is a good idea to keep going to these classes, even if they’re fast paced. She does still correct me, and I was able to somewhat keep up, but definitely made lots of mistakes. My turnout and flexibility is decent due to Pilates, but of course I still struggle with coordination and remembering what I’m supposed to do. Will i eventually progress if I stay in this class, or should I look for something even more beginner friendly?

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FunDivertissement · 12 days ago

IF there are no other true beginner classes that you can add to your schedule, speak to your teacher and see if she would be willing to do a short series of private lessons if you can afford 2 or 3 (or more.) That will give you chance to catch up on some basic positions and a few of the more common steps and you will have time to talk ot the instructor about your goals etc.

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Old_Weird_1828 · 13 days ago

You might see if you can find an absolute beginner class. If there isn’t any you can try some YouTube tutorials at home to help get you up to speed. You might also ask about doing a couple private lessons. Or just keep going to class. You’ll get better but you’ll be frustrated and feel like you aren’t getting better for a while. You have to be willing to stick with it.

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It_TJ · 13 days ago

I would say stick with it! As long as you enjoy it there’s always room for improvement and you can always go up to your teacher during water break or before/ after class if there’s something you really don’t understand :)

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dondegroovily · 13 days ago

I walked into a class just like that with no experience three years ago and now I'm halfway decent

If there's a real beginner class, do that. Otherwise, keep going to the open adult classes

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ehetland · 13 days ago

"Beginner" in ballet has a quite different meaning than we usually use it, as others have pointed out. But I've found a lot of ballet has been kinda "thrown in the deep end" type of leaning. 7 years in, it still is this way if I switch to a harder class or even just try out a new studio. A ballet teacher for a beginner class I used to take (i was about 4 years in at that point, so I wasn't new to ballet at all) would say "fake it till you make it" to the students that were "jumping in the deep end". One could debate this style of learning, but in the end, it's not like we're training for a pro dance company, so if it works for you, keep at it. It sounds like you have a good base to build off. After a few weeks, the terminology and basics will start to make enough sense to start doing some homework on YouTube or with a ballet instruction book/choreo dictionary. You're teacher will lokely also start giving you progressively more technical corrections - so many people dont stick out ballet more than a few classes, it seems some teachers will wait to see before investing a lot of time in them.

Honestly, sounds to me like you found a great new beginners class!

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List of essential ballet moves, beginner - advanced

Posted by shydumplinggg · in r/BALLET · 2 years ago

hi everyone, im looking for a list of ballet moves that I can almost use as a checklist to keep track of what I am practicing. Does anyone know a resource like this, or help me make one ? i am a beginner currently taking classes but the classes are mixed level, so Im not being taught from the beginning and dont want to miss anything. thanks for any help !

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brushfirebeluga · 2 years ago

i just started ballet 4 weeks ago and also have been looking for checklists, i have some that i found pretty useful that i could dm you if you’d like! they’re not as comprehensive as the one mentioned above ig but maybe still helpful ❤️

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shydumplinggg · OP · 2 years ago

that would be great! my dms are open, thank you so much 🤍🤍

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felixfelicitous · 2 years ago

I’d take a look at ballet pedagogy books. I have Technical Manual and Dictionary of Classical Ballet and Basic Principles of Classical Ballet.

For general context though I would learn the rhythm of a typical ballet class - barre is pretty static in terms of format and there’s a regular order of operations when it comes to what movements or exercises you do. It all builds on each other so even if you’re in mixed classes the fundamentals should* be the same.

*i had really crummy ballet teachers as a kid so I had to relearn a lot as a teenager.

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LLCNYC · 2 years ago

What does it mean “im not learning from the beginning”? There is no other way.

Signed A Ballet teacher

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shydumplinggg · OP · 2 years ago

i mean i am not in a beginner class so basic foundations are not being taught. the teacher tells us to do a 6 step combination of things i have never seen or learned. there is definitely a way to learn from the beginning, and unfortunately, that is not happening for me

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LLCNYC · 2 years ago

That sucks because its easy to pick up bad habits if you’re pressured to jump in and “wing it” w zero training.

I always recommend Adam Boreland online ballet. He has tons of videos from beginner…check him out

https://youtu.be/9wmzwC8EKgk

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Ashilleong · 2 years ago

This has happened for a girl who joined our adult class part way through the year, so I totally understand what you mean.

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vpsass · 2 years ago

Hmmmmm definitely an interesting question, and not one with an easy answer.

First I’d like to mention the difference between “learning steps” and “building technique” as they are both elements of a ballet class and things you need to do. And learning what a step is and how to do it is much easier than building your ballet technique to do the step correctly.

But you are correct to assume the steps all build upon each other, like a crazy intertwined staircase, and you want to start from the bottom and go stair by stair.

Perhaps some beginner steps:

-Plié in 1st, 2nd, and 5th, facing the barre

-tendu devant, a la second, and derrière from first and fifth

-battement jeté (also known as dégagé, and/or glissé)

  • rond de jambe, usually you start with quarter ronds I think it’s better to start there

-petit battement facing the barre

-relevé in first, both plié relevé, and just relevé (aka rise or elevé)

-okay as I make this list I’m just list of all the basic ballet steps. Perhaps it’s better for you to list what you see in your open class that you can’t quite do yet, and we can work backwards as to how to build up to that. Because otherwise I’ll just sound like a ballet dictionary.

*****WAIT here’s a pdf of a Vaganova first year syllabus it’s super detailed and is probably more helpful. I can’t even lie this pdf is super useful I might print it out for reference.

Edit: and let me know if you have any questions about stuff in the pdf.

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shydumplinggg · OP · 2 years ago

thank you so much! can't believe you found that pdf, it's so detailed ! i really appreciate it 🤍

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Ashilleong · 2 years ago

Fantastic pdf, thanks

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Princesshannon2002 · 2 years ago

Thanks for posting that pdf!💜

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brushfirebeluga · 2 years ago

that’s just perfect, thanks for sharing!

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New to ballet at 38. Any good apps to follow?

Posted by Remarkable-Way-8745 · in r/BALLET · 5 months ago

Hi Everyone. I'm 38 and just started beginners adult classes and month ago. In these classes there's a wide range of levels and while the instructors go over the movements and stances they go through it quickly and it's hard to keep up at times. Are there any good books, apps or YouTube videos to download that can help?

I've always wanted to do ballet but never got to due to weight and now that I've lost 150lbs and my 5 year old started classes I want to finally give it a go and be able to help her in her ballet journey also. So any help is greatly appreciated.

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topas9 · 5 months ago

Ok, ideally it would be best to find a class for complete beginners so that you can receive the right kind of instruction, but I understand if that is not available to you. Lazy Dancer Tips on youtube has a ballet basics for adults series that sounds like what you are looking for. I use her strengthening and stretching videos, and she is very conscious of safety and good at giving cues.

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Remarkable-Way-8745 · OP · 5 months ago

Yup this is what I'm looking for. Thanks a bunch

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milchschoko · 5 months ago

wow this is an impressive number! weight is not an issue with ballet, everyone can do ballet with certain safety measures.

re books, start with this
Foundations of Classical Ballet by Agrippina I︠A︡kovlevna Vaganova

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22891642-foundations-of-classical-ballet

Vaganova is still one of the strongest schools in the world, and the methods and general idea described there is still universal for the classical balelt.

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Remarkable-Way-8745 · OP · 5 months ago

I'll look it up. Thank you

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Own_Glass4484 · 5 months ago

I use BalletwithIsabella (classes, workouts, stretching. She has a lot of great advice and is very detailed. Listen to her podcast too), DanceMasterclass (they have classes as well as experts talking about the body and all sorts of things) and balletclass.com (I only recently discovered them but they have many great classes with principals and soloists guest teachers from big companies).

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Careless_Willow212 · 5 months ago

Wow! I just started ballet at age 38 too! Reading your post I thought maybe I had written this and forgotten 😂

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Remarkable-Way-8745 · OP · 5 months ago

If you are in the San Diego area let's take a class together

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Careless_Willow212 · 5 months ago

I’m in Toronto, thankfully lots of choices here!

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kachaz310 · 5 months ago

I’ve been too scared to sign up thinking I’m too old. I’ll be 38 this summer. I cheered in high school and am a yoga teacher. There’s an adult summer camp where I live that’s after work and has conditioning, technique, and I’ve had my finger on the click button for like a month to sign up. You and OP have inspired me to just do the damn thing!

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Careless_Willow212 · 5 months ago

Yessss! Just do it! My class had literally all ages, I’d say from 20-75! It was so refreshing, you’ll do great!

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Feathertail11 · 5 months ago

Ballet with Isabella has good beginners plans and I think she’s coming out with a new one soon. It is a pricy subscription and she has a lot of intermediate/advanced content so I would suggest just doing the 14 day free trial.

She is detailed though which is important. In general, beginner ballet technique relies on a couple basic concepts that you’ll repeat a lot. I recommend going for breadth in terms of theoretical knowledge, but for actually practicing, stick to super basic exercises for alignment, turnout, and straight lines/foot articulation.

As for keeping up, just consuming a lot of ballet content will get you familiar with what each step is called, and most combos are based off the en criox pattern.

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Remarkable-Way-8745 · OP · 5 months ago

I'll look at this one too. Thank you

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Late Teens Ballet Beginner

Posted by lapoupee · in r/BALLET · 5 years ago

I recently began going to ballet classes, I turned 17 in October. I’m wondering if it’ll ever be possible to get banana feet at my age, or some what flexible toes and aesthetic feet?

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vpsass · 5 years ago

Why do you want banana feet, they are so difficult to dance with!

Edit: but yeah you can defs improve your feet, stretch and strengthen, there’s lots on YouTube.

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lapoupee · OP · 5 years ago

I'd imagine it is, just wanna get far more flexible feet, thanks for the motivation, i've been doing exercises and they've helped a ton.

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[deleted] · 5 years ago

There are always physical differences between anyone's feet, but as an example, I've been dancing seriously again for about 5 months and the difference in my feet is pretty staggering.

There are some great foot-strengthening videos on YouTube lots of different releve-esque exercises can be great (just be careful and don't overdo it). I've also found using a TheraBand for feet strengthening has been helpful. :)

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lapoupee · OP · 5 years ago

Thank you! I've been doing theraband and arch rolling, it´s been really helping!

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sam_sakoman · 5 years ago

Omg! Same! I started taking ballet 366 days ago, I'm 18 now and I'm taking intermediate level classes. I have splits in three directions, and "banana feet" you can get moderate to good flexibility in as little as three months if you stretch (properly) and it is 100% possible if you put your mind to it! I'm so happy I'm not the only one who started so late, it's good to see people my age doing this too!

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lapoupee · OP · 5 years ago

I wasn't expecting any other beginner in my age range, I'm pleasantly surprised! Are there any stretches you'd recommend? Feel free to pm me, i'm so happy to know i'm not alone, keep on the hard work and dedication (:

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[deleted] · 5 years ago

What did you do to get banana feet?

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sam_sakoman · 5 years ago

I used a tennis ball and rolled it under my arches to loosen and stretch the muscles.

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charmsxx · 5 years ago

do u have any splits tips?

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sam_sakoman · 5 years ago

Probably just work at them every day, and learn how to relax into them. Once I started to relax into them it was easier to go deeper into them. Took me about six months to get tho.

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Tutustitcher · 5 years ago

It depends what they're like to start with, but with training are highly likely to improve a lot. Focus on tendus and strengthening exercises rather than gimmicky foot stretcher gadgets. If you're looking for tutorials, make sure they're from properly qualified people, e.g. Lisa Howell.

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lapoupee · OP · 5 years ago

I have pretty good insteps and some what of a decent arch, i've been doing foot strengthening exercises and it has helped sooo much!

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Local beginner's class is too hard

Posted by capybarge · in r/BALLET · 19 days ago

I (24, M) am very new to ballet, like done 3 classes new. I've been struggling with my classes because there hasn't been any explanations of the 5 basic positions etc and we go straight into combinations quite quickly.

The combinations are basic but I can't remember what has been demonstrated for us to repeat so quickly. Especially because I'm still trying to get used to remembering to engage my abdomen and glutes, lower my shoulders and elongate my posture, and turn out my legs as much as I can at this stage. There's just so much to think about and remember that I feel very overwhelmed by it.

Does anyone have any tips on what to practice at home to make these classes a bit easier for me?

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More_Salamander604 · 19 days ago

Sounds like the teacher is going too fast for a beginners class. It would be best for them to break it down.

Youre in the right place! When I was beginning I was still learning what words corresponded to which movement, so while others were learning the steps I felt behind as I was still figuring out what the moves 'were' before I could even try doing them correctly.

For you, this is what I do and it has helped me and I've slowly gotten faster. Start with knowing the terminology, pas de chats, en semble, 2nd position etc. Then with combinations and such I find taking it chunks at a time is best, slowly going over the first chunk until you know it, repeating the process until you're familiar with the dance or whatever it is. Then you can slowly work on the dance as a whole, I still find it hard with fast music. I'll know the moves but wouldn't be able to pull them off at speed.

Hope this helps in some way! Good luck :)

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ethanfrom3 · 19 days ago

Are you going to just regular drop in classes or are you doing an absolute beginner progressive course? I know a lot of places can be limited to only a few offerings in adult ballet. If a course is offered I think you will have a better experience starting from scratch and building up from there for a few reasons. Absolute beginner is anchored towards people just starting whereas beginner is a little bit more subjective. Also working with an instructor (weekly for example) over a longer period of time in a more structured course will give them the opportunity to learn about your skill level/needs/goals and work with you on that!

If a progressive absolute beginner course isn’t available, you could try to start out with YouTube videos to get you more familiar with vocabulary,technique, etc… I recommend Kathryn Morgan she’s great at breaking things down. However there are so many options out there. It’s always best to get in person as you get a more hands on experience, and accurate corrections, but YouTube videos are such a great tool.

If you are feeling really dedicated to learning terminology/technique there are lots of books that break down the terminology. For example the RAD https://www.radenterprises.co.uk/products/foundations-of-classical-ballet-technique a lot of these books can even be found through public or school libraries! This is just one example, and one school of ballet but if you look up ballet terminology books you will find quite a few :)

Another last option is dance masterclass. This is a paid program. I have never tried it myself but it looks pretty helpful, it could be an option to look into.

I wish you the best of luck on your ballet journey. It can be so intimidating starting out and can feel like a lot of information all at once. However, it is such a rewarding experience, and meditative practice once you break through that first bit of unfamiliar territory! Don’t get discouraged, you’ve got this!

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capybarge · OP · 18 days ago

They're regular drop in classes based in a pilates studio fairly local to me, which is convenient. They're very small classes so we do get a lot of corrections from the teacher which is nice, still not as bare bones basic as I need though 🥲

Thank you so much for the recommendations, that's all really helpful. I'll definitely be looking into Kathryn Morgan and maybe some books as well. Hopefully it'll all be a little less intimidating soon!

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Katia144 · 19 days ago

If it's in the budget, take a private lesson or two. Also, ask your teacher if they can give you easier modification.

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Strongwoman1 · 19 days ago

It sounds like you aren’t in an absolute beginners class. Can you find one of those? You need foundational instruction and knowledge before you can do the rest.

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Ecstatic_Low_6955 · 19 days ago

I would say learn the moves before focusing on the abdomen, glutes, shoulders, and posture. Those are things you’ll always have to think about. But the techniques you’ll need to learn first

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capybarge · OP · 18 days ago

Ah that's very fair, I was thinking that focusing on correct posture was the first priority. Thanks!

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Ecstatic_Low_6955 · 18 days ago

Posture is probably a never ending thing lol.

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Questions about first class experience

Posted by Pattern_Necessary · in r/BALLET · 3 months ago

I'm an adult and I've attended my first ballet class ever this week.

I live in a small town and there are only two places where I could take classes. I went to the closest one and did a taster session joining their adult class. I don't know how a class should be but I am wondering if what we did was ok and if I will learn anything in this way.

We did not do any stretches. I thought it would be necessary, I did modern jazz during secondary school and we always either started or finished with barre stretches and it was actually one of the things I was looking forward to since I'd like to be able to do the splits again and also I've been experiencing pain in my ankles the last month which my usual Yoga has not improved.

We didn't do any warm-ups in the sense of rolling ankles, arms, etc. Is this common?

We started the class holding the barre on one side and doing several demi plies etc. The instructor would mention the movements in French and kinda show them once and then we had to do them on both sides. Not going to lie I struggled following because I had no idea if what I was doing was right and I was mainly following what other students were doing. I know some terms because I've been learning French for about two years and I just like ballet and go see it at the theatre etc but I was very lost. I thought I'd get told what angle to put the feet, how to place the legs, what to do with the arms, how to shape my hands, have my posture checked. Just some small things I remember from modern jazz.

Then we got off the barre and did a series of very short choreographies, again the instructor would do it once in front of us in real time, listing all of the movements, and then we'd have to repeat it several times right away. In those there were turns, small jumps, pas de chats, etc. We were all beginners luckily so I wasn't super embarrassed but it was rough, we kept getting confused about which feet to start with, how to walk, etc. I did get lots of pain in one of my ankles doing this and that's why I was wondering about prep before the class.

Then we finished with jumps.

I know I sound whiny but I did enjoy the class a lot, it was very difficult to do which motivated me, and I'm going to go again next week. But I also do ballroom dancing where we do more than ten styles of dancing throughout the year and the instructor always corrects where our hands go, what feet to start with, etc, since it's different between styles, and we repeat each bit of choreography multiple times and break it down into short segments until we memorise them. We don't do stretches there but to be fair it's not as physically demanding as ballet.

Is this the right way to learn for adults? Am I just a bit thick in not being able to follow? I have contacted the other ballet place in town but I'm worried they seem a lot more uptight and I'm plus size so I will see how that goes.

UPDATE: Thank you so much everyone :) This made me feel way more confident about the class and studio. It's good to know it's normal to feel disoriented. Full disclosure, I'm neurodivergent and struggle sometimes if I don't know the structure/plan for things so it's good to know that this is what it will be like. Also, I am excited for when the course restarts in autumn. I've ordered the two books recommended which should arrive this week, and I'll prepare a set of warmups and stretches to do before the class.

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CoffeeCheeseYoga · 3 months ago

That is the structure of a ballet class. Barre = Warm Up. The work where you start with plies, tendus, port de bras, cambre, etc. is the the warm up. (You are moving all the necessary body parts - feet, ankles, hips, arms, spine.) You then move on to center work and across the floor.

Especially when teaching adults recreationally, different teachers will have different approaches to how corrections are given. I don't want to overwhelm a brand new student. I want them to get a feel for the class, how their body naturally moves, start learn a few terms, and generally enjoy the class before I begin bombarding them them with technique. Also, in a true adult beginner class, if a teacher was to stop and correct every little thing that was "wrong," you'd never get to the dancing. I tell my adults to do it "loud and proud! and be wrong but strong!" Essentially, I want my adults to move their bodies and slowly/gently learn "better" technique. They are there to have fun and get some exercise, not to be prima ballerinas after all :)

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Pattern_Necessary · OP · 3 months ago

That makes a lot of sense, thank you :)

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akat0405 · 3 months ago

Hi OP! Just want to echo what CoffeeCheeseYoga said above. I’m an adult beginner myself and started in January of this year. When I first started, corrections were very general “keep X in mind as we move to the next side!” comments to the whole class. I rarely got specific corrections for the first few classes, unless I was doing something glaringly wrong. At first I was a little frustrated because I felt like I must be doing so much wrong, but only a few of my worst mistakes were being pointed out. How could I improve if I wasn’t aware of every single thing I needed to work on?

As I continued with classes though, I got more and more corrections as I started to “settle in” to the movements and the teacher learned my strengths and weaknesses. Every week the teacher would have a specific part of technique that she’d take a couple minutes to thoroughly explain/demonstrate. For example, one week we really focused on crossing the position of our feet in tendus to the front and back. “Toes with the nose!” and “In line with the spine!” were her most common queues/corrections that week. It really helped us find the right position, so we could better feel when we would get sloppy and leave the feet out to the side a bit. Once you get a feel for the proper position, it’s easier to self-correct. Once the proper position is muscle memory, it opens up “brain space” to focus on other aspects of your technique that need refinement.

Now, I get more detailed corrections on positions/steps I’m familiar with, such as the rotation of my wrist with arms a la second, hitting the same height each time in degages, the tilt of my pelvis as I land from sautés, etc. If my teacher knows I know better, she won’t let me cheat! There are still plenty of times when a new step or a complicated combination comes up and my brain gets overwhelmed… sometimes I feel like I’m stumbling around like an inebriated duck 😝 But after the first couple awkward tries, familiarity and muscle memory build, and then I can really refine my technique with my teacher’s guidance!

Looking back, I’m very grateful for the approach my teacher takes with corrections. If she had been an absolute stickler from my first class with the position of the foot, stretch of the ankle, point of the toes, distance from the barre, precise rotation and positions of shoulders, elbows, wrist, and individual fingers with the various arm positions, position of head and gaze, relaxed shoulders, and proper breathing, aaaallll while remembering pattern of and changing speed or accent in a basic tendu exercise, I probably would’ve left crying 😂

Ballet is such a beautiful, detailed athletic art form. It takes time to learn all the intricacies! Don’t get discouraged! I’m sure your teacher will help you refine and improve as you because familiar with the basic mechanics of ballet. Keep at it and see how you feel after more classes 🙂

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fantsywor1d · 3 months ago

this sounds pretty similar to my adult beginner ballet class experience

we don't really warm up as part of the class, instead we arrive earlier to warm up before the class starts, however there are also specific stretch/conditioning classes so maybe see if your studio/s have that

i attend 2 studios, at my first one there's 25-30 people in the class and we don't really get 1 on 1 correction, instead general feedback from mistakes the teacher sees around the class, however i do get corrections at my other studio with a smaller class of 6-10

also you're not "thick" for not being able to follow, this is very common! i've only been doing ballet for about 7 weeks and i am already making progress with following along (it's still difficult but a lot better!), repetition and practice make progress so just keep showing up :)

good on you for starting and i wish you the best!!

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Pattern_Necessary · OP · 3 months ago

Thank you, just wanted to make sure as it's so different from my other dancing classes! we were only 6 in this class so I guess I expected more correction. I have however signed up for the month and will ask if we can enter the studio earlier for stretches, the studio we use looked empty before our class but the door was closed, so I will check with them

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fantsywor1d · 3 months ago

wow 6 is a pretty tiny class! but i suppose since we're so brand new to ballet there's just so much to correct so maybe your teacher just wants you to get a feel for everything first

hopefully you're able to get in a little earlier for a stretch!

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Slight-Brush · 3 months ago

This sounds normal for a recreational adult class that is not targeted at absolute beginners.

For angles of feet, arms etc, that's why the teacher is demonstrating - she's hoping you will copy what she's doing without her having so say every thing every time. Unlike ballroom dancing, ballet rarely includes memorising the same enchainement to repeat week after week - unless you're in a syllabus class.

Something like an 'Introduction to Ballet' course that runs every week for six (or 8 or 10) weeks is more likely to break things down into more basic components with more detailed instructions - it might be worth looking around for something like this. Sometimes FE colleges do them in their evening class programme. If you happen to be in London there are a lot eg

https://shop.trinitylaban.ac.uk/short-courses/adults/dance/evening-weekend-classes/thursdays/ballet-introduction

https://www.city-academy.com/ballet-classes-beginners

Do try the other studio and see how it compares!

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Pattern_Necessary · OP · 3 months ago

Thank you I will take a look at those! I'll see if there's anything nearby, otherwise I might read or watch a course to be familiar with the terminology

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Slight-Brush · 3 months ago

The library is likely to have at least a few books - worth looking in the children's section

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ballet-Book-Darcey-Bussell/dp/140531477X

https://www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/products/dk-superguide-ballet-book-darcey-bussell-9780751328004

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Decent-Historian-207 · 3 months ago

This is generally how ballet class goes.

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AlternativeAd3306 · 3 months ago

It does sound like a normal ballet class.

Starting with pliés at barre, is the warmup. A few students like myself do come a little bit early to do some moves, I have weak ankles so I sort of pre-warm them as the other students get dressed, another student do the same for their hips and knees.

Ballet vocab is french, yeah. Easier for me as I am French but I never heard of another languagz being used in ballet training (the same as when I was doing kendo a long time ago, we learnt the japanese names and nothing else). Don't worry you'll get it with time.

You being kinda lost is probably because we're neat the end of the "season" which means most students have been there for at least months, and almost a year, even in beginner levels. Most studio I know of will get back to absolute basics in september, as the students get re-sorted in different levels.

It is also normal to not get into stretching as much (or at all) at that level, because you first need strenght and control. We do have a small stretching section at the end of our barre even in beginner class, but it's absolutely basic stuff and our teacher makes sure we all stay safe (which can be hard to monitor with a full class). It's also facultative, some students use it to shake their legs a bit, massage sore muscles, while others do flexibility training.

Ask your teacher about it next time, they should be able to explain everything to you and give advice on what you can do to keep up.

Good luck ! I wish you the best !

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Pattern_Necessary · OP · 3 months ago

Thank you, yes the class is starting again in September so I was planning on taking it again. I think it will be very rewarding when I'm able to follow it better!

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If you had 15min a day, what would you do to imrove your ballet skills as a beginner?

Posted by Comfortable-Ebb6719 · in r/BALLET · 4 months ago

I'm in a pretty bad shape, but try to do a little bit something everyday. What would you do if you had only 15 min per day to improve for ballet? I've done planking and some grand plies and developpes... Is there anything else you would suggest? I walk most days and do some pilates vids from youtube sometimes, but for ballet specifically?

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topas9 · 4 months ago

Core (including/alternating days on abs, back, and obliques), single leg rises, and turnout exercises.

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Both-Application9643 · 4 months ago

Hey, I'm a strength and conditioning coach for dancers. With only 15 minutes a day, I would focus on high-quality strength and mobility movements that will have the biggest return on investment.

For example:

Day 1:

  • 3 minutes of skipping rope (mime the action if you don't have a rope). Break it up into sets that are tolerable (e.g. 1 minute x 3 sets or 30 seconds x 6 sets)
  • Heel-elevated goblet squats (hold a backpack filled with books if you don't have weights). 8 reps x 3 sets
  • Pigeon hinge, active stretch
  • Pancake hinge, active stretch

Day 2:

  • Side planks: 2 sets per side, hold as long as you can
  • Single leg glute bridges: 3 sets of as many reps as you can per side
  • Single leg heel raises in parallel, 1-2 sets to fatigue
  • Hip airplanes, 6-8 reps, 1-2 sets

Day 3:

  • 3 minutes of skipping again
  • Forearm plank to pike, 30 sec x 2
  • Deadbug, 10 reps x 1
  • Bicycle ab exercise, 12 reps x 1
  • Superman back lifts, 12 reps x 2
  • Developpe practice if time allows

Day 4:

  • Reverse lunges, 8 reps x 2
  • Countermovement jump, 4-5 reps x 3 sets, resting between sets
  • Standing clamshell, 10 reps x 2
  • Single leg heel raises in parallel, 1-2 sets to fatigue

Day 5:

  • Single leg RDL, 8 reps x 3
  • Standing clamshell, 10 reps x 2
  • Sumo squat isometric hold, 20 sec x 3
  • Bear crawls, 1-2 sets to fatigue

+ 2 rest days (ideally one halfway through the week, like after the second workout, and again after workout 5). Experiment with adding weight - even in the form of household items - especially for the lower body movements.

Stretch at the end if time allows. Pick 1 stretch per muscle group, hold for 20-30 sec, 2-3 sets, focusing on deep breaths and relaxing into the movement as much as you can. You can also look up the contract-relax method of stretching; this can feel more intense but is helpful for improving flexibility, especially as you progress.

I hope that helps! :)

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TallCombination6 · 4 months ago

1.2 minutes of Jumping jacks (for building cardio strength)

  1. 25 relieves in first position

  2. 25 relieves in second position

  3. Passes from fifth position - 8 going backwards, 8 going forward

5 3 minutes of weights

  1. Stretch and box breathing for 3 minutes
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realiteartificielle · 4 months ago

Focusing on the basics with good placement will help you most in the long run!

When I first got back into ballet, everyday, I would warm up with my feet with 10 pointe/flex and 10 ankle circles both ways while sitting down with my legs out in front of me. Then, I would do pliés in 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th. Next, I would do tendus en croix from 1st and then 5th position, and finally, I would do 20 élevés and then 20 relevés.

For the foot/ankle floor work, focus on keeping my legs long and stretched and fully articulating my feet. Sit up nice and tall by engaging your abs and keeping a long neck.

For the pliés, focus on turning out from the hip and making sure I felt my deep rotators. Go as deep into the plié as possible without your heels coming up (unless you also do grand pliés

For tendus, focus on lifting out of my hips, keeping my legs straight, and pushing my feet ‘through’ the floor. From 5th, use as much turnout as you have by working through first to find your fifth for tendus à la seconde (to the side).

For élevés and relevés, focus on getting a high demi, rotating from the top of the hip down for turnout, and keeping a neutral pelvis.

Lastly, for every exercise, focus on keeping a plumb line: ears over shoulders, shoulders down and protracted, shoulders over hips. The ribs are closed/in but not crunched; lift up out of hips with the transversus abdominis.

Let me know if you’d like any further explanation!

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Emotional_Pirate_773 · 4 months ago

Hi! Can you further explain the point about ribs? I generally have a really hard time understanding how to engage my core (or knowing if/when it is engaged). Despite having tried all kinds of exercises and watching lots of videos, I still default to understanding it as no different from "sucking in my belly" - or, "sucking it in and lightly tensing as if to poop." It never seems to be a sustainable and breathable level of tension to be in, much less maintain!

In class my teacher also refers to knitting in the ribs and I interpret that as engaging my core, so generally still confused and would appreciate any pointers! Thanks!

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Strycht · 4 months ago

single leg rises to failure in front of a mirror to prevent sickling! in this context "to failure" includes having to sickle to get up

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beginner ballet exercises

Key Considerations for Beginner Ballet Exercises

  1. Warm-Up: Always start with a proper warm-up to prevent injuries. Focus on gentle stretches and movements to increase blood flow to your muscles.

  2. Basic Positions: Familiarize yourself with the five basic positions of the feet and arms, as they are foundational for all ballet movements.

  3. Posture: Maintain good posture throughout your exercises. Keep your shoulders down, chest open, and engage your core.

  4. Focus on Technique: Prioritize proper technique over speed or complexity. This will help build a strong foundation for future progress.

  5. Consistency: Practice regularly to build strength, flexibility, and muscle memory. Aim for at least 2-3 sessions per week.

Recommended Beginner Exercises:

  1. Plies: Start in first position and bend your knees while keeping your heels on the ground. This helps with strength and flexibility.

  2. Tendus: From first position, slide one foot out to the front, side, or back, keeping the toes pointed. This exercise enhances foot articulation.

  3. Degages: Similar to tendus, but lift the foot slightly off the ground. This helps develop speed and strength in the legs.

  4. Releves: Rise onto the balls of your feet from a flat position. This strengthens the calves and improves balance.

  5. Adagio: Practice slow, controlled movements to develop grace and fluidity. Focus on extending your limbs and maintaining balance.

Recommendation: Consider joining a beginner ballet class or following online tutorials to ensure you’re learning the correct techniques and getting feedback. This can greatly enhance your learning experience and keep you motivated!

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