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Affordable Models
When looking for an affordable BMW, some users suggest models like the 2019 530e and 530i. A user reported purchasing a 2019 530e with 70k miles for $23,000, indicating that prices in this range are reasonable [4:1]. Another user mentioned that 530i models are available for around $19k-$22k with similar mileage, suggesting these models are worth considering for their balance of price and features
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Considerations for Used BMWs
When buying a used BMW, it's crucial to consider potential maintenance costs. Users emphasize checking for smooth transmission downshifts and being aware of upcoming maintenance needs such as fluid changes, brakes, rotors, and tires [4:2]
[4:3]. Ensuring a clean vehicle history report, like a clean Carfax with multiple service records, can also provide peace of mind
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Underrated Models
The BMW 6 Series, especially the 650i, is frequently cited as an underrated model. Many users appreciate its design and performance, noting that it is often overlooked despite offering a V8 engine and a luxurious interior [5:2]
[5:6]. The rarity of certain configurations, such as the manual transmission, adds to its appeal among enthusiasts
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Depreciation and Value
BMW models often depreciate significantly, which can make them more affordable after a few years. This depreciation trend means that vehicles initially seen as overpriced can become attractive options once they reach about 25% of their original MSRP [5:1]. Therefore, shopping for a slightly older model can yield significant savings while still providing the luxury and performance expected from a BMW.
In summary, when searching for an affordable BMW, consider models like the 530e or 530i for a blend of value and reliability, and don't overlook the 6 Series for its combination of style and performance. Always factor in potential maintenance costs and check the vehicle's history before making a purchase.
I'm on stage 3 moon with 1600 cat food and I'm wondering if I should spend it on this event or should I wait for ultra souls.
Also 2 extra questions:
should should I save 11 rare tickets for guaranteed uber od does it not work like that?
If I didn't previously spend cat food on rare tickets am I able to get 2 guaranteed ubers from this event for discounted price? (2x 750)
You cannot use rare tickets for an eleven roll. Neo best of the best however, is much less common than ultra souls, only appearing in special events. It's one of the best sets to roll, but in a few weeks, there will be an event called 'superfest' on, and that is probably what you should save your rare tickets for.
Actually it's far from being one of the best banners. Most of the Ubers are either very mid or just decent. Only roll if you really want Agent Staal.
I stand corrected. Wait for superfest
Can u give me a short list of best events I should spend on? (With guaranteed uber)
Anything with 'fest' in the name, anything with a guaranteed eleven draw, and the best banners to roll (other than the fest's) are the almightys, the dynamites, and ultra souls. The ones you shouldn't roll is pretty much just the nekolugas. As said previously, superfest is coming up soon (early October), so I'd say save your tickets for that.
I heard both of the best of the best banners don't have 100% guaranteed Uber rolls on them
Oh you are right
I would pick 20 and do a second pass. 15 looks great, and 10 has a little underextrusion, so anything below 10 is not good.
I’m with you. I never know which one to pick. Would love to know if someone has put together a complete guide on how to determine the best one.
You should really ignore the number and focus on the block
Use your fingers and find the smoothest, then go back one and start the next set from that one to fine tune it. So if the smoothest is -5, go to -10 for the next test and you may find the true smoothest result is 7 or 3 or something.
Its not about how the print looks but feels, as the looks can solved with different settings, its a pure flow test.
Is it just smoothest in the very center? What about the edges? Sometimes the edges are kinda rough but the center seems smooth.
Check out Teaching Tech's GitHub! He has a full calibraration guide.
both 15 look pretty good. But with recent printers, I don't see these tests doing anything anymore.
Did you measure any of them?
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I’m looking at getting into my first bmw and from the looks of my research this is overall the best daily/reliable bmw that I like.Dealer wants 22700 out the door and not willing to come down at all.Thoughts?
Its a good price for sure, but i have a 2019 with 70k kms and i would buy at least a 2020/2021.
I have some transmission downshift problems and overall not as smooth as my friends 2020 320i drives. I did all the maintenance but its getting not better (engine mounts, trans oil, spark plus).
If you test drive it, check if the downshifts are smooth when you brake to stop.
Thanks for taking time to respond.Will check it out!
Was looking at this one the other day. There's a warning light in the dash, I believe, and this one has the Driving Assistance Professional package with cruise control that relies on your eyes and not your hands. Pretty rare to see on a 330i.
But it's still a cheap BMW, and while I don't consider 60k miles a lot, if you're worried about the price, keep in mind the upkeep. Things break when you don't follow maintenance schedules, and at 60k, it is probably due for some fluid changes and hardware. Brakes, rotors, and tires should be coming up if not done already.
Other than that, I'd totally get it for that price.
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Also has clean carfax with 11 service reports and no accidents
Just bought a 2019 530e w/ 70k miles for $23000. I'd keep shopping. 530i are going for around 19k-22k with 50-70k miles in georgia.
I think the 6 series are the most underrated and overlooked bmw’s . When I had my 650 you wouldn’t believe the number of people who were surprised I had a V8. It’s so forgotten that I had one dude no BS ask me is it a M3.
It's been the same story for decades. Every top model BMW is seen as overpriced or disappointing in some way, sells poorly, gets canceled, and then is suddenly "underrated" a decade later when it depreciates to 25% of original MSRP. If you search 8 series posts in this sub you can watch the consensus change with each year as the car depreciates.
One of, if not the best all around design BMW has ever had, imo.
Gorgeous car! I have a 6-Speed F13, and couldn’t agree more! The whole design is so beautiful. Drives amazing. Interior is about perfect in my opinion, plenty of cool tech, but not just loaded with screens like the new cars.
wow the 6 speeds are pretty rare right? A manual would be sweet with one of these but i don’t mind the dual clutch.
Yeah I think they said roughly 100 6-speeds were made for the 650i, and only in 2012. Most were in the convertible, so I think it’s at most 30-40 that were coupe. I wouldn’t mind the dual clutch either, but since it’s just a Sunday cruiser for me, I really wanted the 6-speed. Took a couple years searching the country to finally find a decent one!
I would say no because of how praised this is for being the best looking/(one of) modern bmw out there
Man, unpopular opinion but its my fav design after the E60
I have never had BMWs before, but I drove a rental 330i and I liked its dynamics ALOT. I am thinking of getting a sporty BMW sometime in the future, but I don't have a lot of knowledge about their performance per dollar value, especially for anything that is not an M3 or M4.
So lets say for 20k ish, what would be a BMW that is kinda reliable ( I work on all my cars in my garage, so I am not afraid of getting my hands dirty), and somewhat fast for that kind of money, that is not an M3 or M4 ?
If you like the 330, a great inbetween that and the crazy power of the Ms is the 335. It is more powerful with an inline 6 and had a twin turbo up to 2010 and a single turbo up till 2015.
I owned a 2008 335xi brand new and sold it earlier this year. Lasted me 17 years and 155K miles.
Pretty clean example of the 335is. Not gonna be the most reliable but if you’re willing to do maintenance it’s ok. Also auto m240i with about 80-100k miles is going to be in that range and then you get the b58 which is reliable
+1 for 335is. It really is an underrated gem. But do make sure it was properly maintained.
If you want fast it’s gonna have to be a 6 cylinder turbo.
So look for anything with 35i in the name. 2013-2016 235i would be my pick. 335i for 4 doors, 435i for bigger coupe, nicer interior more comfort.
The engine is N55. It’s reasonably reliable.
If you want newer car and can find something within 20k then anything with 30i in the name is gonna be similar to the car you drive. 4 cylinder turbo, B48 engine. Also reliable. Same models. 230i small coupe, 330i sedan, 430i bigger coupe.
I’d stay away from 28i models. They are also turbo 4 cylinder and will be cheaper but it’s the previous generation engine that had issues. Model years towards the end of production are supposed to be better but if I had a choice I would still pay extra for the 30i model.
M235i with 75k~ miles are usually sub 20k
This is a great answer based on your criteria of no m3. That said, the best investment and driving experience would be an e46 m3. IMO clean ones hit rock bottom about 5 years ago, and will only be going up.
I appreciate your opinion on the n54, when did bmw start putting those into the g20 330’s?
N54’s get a bad rep because the platform got cheap. It’s not the b58, or in your case b48, when it comes to reliability, but people act like these things are just money pits. All the issues have been identified with guides and videos everywhere on how to fix it. Injectors are the bad one, but most else is pretty manageable.
2/3/435i or 2/3/440i. With M-Performance package. I own one of them myself also. Best bang for the buck car for sure.
Also agree with this. 440I GC are easy to find for low 20s with less than 80K miles.
35d is even faster, quicker to 60 than the 40i of its respective year. Didn’t realise this until 2 weeks ago when I was just about keeping up with a 335d
Correct, the regular 335i got the N55 during those production years but the 335is got the N54.
This shit is crazy lmao, why would anyone recommend N54 with all the HPFP issues
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to buy my first German car and have always been fascinated by BMWs. Because of my current finances, my budget is under C$10,000, so I’ll be going for a used one. I understand that owning a BMW comes with maintenance costs, but I’m willing to do proper mechanical checks before buying.
I’m looking for suggestions on older BMW models that are known to be more reliable, have better parts availability, and lower maintenance complexity compared to others.
If you have experience or recommendations for specific series or model years I should be focusing my search on, I’d really appreciate your input. Any tips on what to avoid would also help a lot.
Thanks in advance!
Unless you’re willing to do your own work, don’t.
I have had 2 older BMWs, both have been great. The one I have now is a 2001 330ci with almost 200,000 miles on it. BMWs are notorious for needing the cooling system replaced at some point so make sure to find out. They are costly to repair. In 5 years I've had mine I have probably spent 5k
Hey everyone! Finally time to start thinking about getting my first car, I'm taking a drivers permit test next week (wish me luck), and will purchase the car November-ish. I'm looking for something 8k-ish, decent mantenence (IT i'm ok with spending some money on repairs but yeah, poor high schooler here). I do want the car to be fun to drive and look nice, a sedan. I'm in a BMW loving family, so thats my main direction. Current model i'm considering: 2014/15 ish 3-series (prolly 328i?), with 100kish miles. Live near washington dc, if that helps. Thanks!
If you’re looking at the used luxury market, Lexus is going to be your best bet. German vehicles are infamous for maintenance headaches. As a “poor high schooler”, a 10yo 3-series with 100k miles is going to be… frustrating. I’d explore used Lexus IS vehicles.
Nothing more expensive then a cheap German sports car
How are your wrenching skills? Are you engine swap or oil change type of guy?
oil change level right now, but I'm taking a mechanics electives at school next year, and they let you bring your own car in and do lessons while fixing it.
That sounds great, I feel more comfortable about you getting the car now because you have means and a way to fix it.
Timing chain will need to be looked at, bmw seal like to leak so be mindful and they still like using weird plastic and rubber in the engine. Try to get a stick shift for ease of maintenance and reliability, bmw makes some of the best manual transmission out there
If you can do basically all of the maintenance yourself, a BMW might be an option. You could probably get a half decent E46 with that budget and have money leftover for parts. Definitely wouldn't recommend a German if you're gonna be taking it to a shop though
btw looking at facebook marketplace
anything German including BMW is not going to be cheap on maintenance/repairs
other than maintenance, whatdya thank
So, I've seen a couple comments, videos, etc talking about how unreliable/expensive to maintain a BMW is. At one point, I saw a video stating that if you want to become successful in your 20s, don't buy a BMW, and stuff like that. It seems like it's generally accepted that BMWs can't be daily drivers, which is sad for me, because BMW has been my favorite car brand for many years, and the fact that I'd go bankrupt if I do manage to afford one in the future.
As someone that owns an older BMW (1997) I can confidently say: It depends, but generally no.
It’s the extra maintenance associated with owning a BMW that a lot of owners neglect that makes them unreliable. You have roughly double or 1.5x the maintenance of your average Toyota or ford or Chevrolet or what have you, and a lot of people see a cheap BMW that’s of the same year Japanese/American car and think “I can have that for the same price!” But it’s really not, because you have to spend the purchase price x2 to make it reliable. People don’t factor that cost in, it falls into disrepair, then they sell a car that’s falling apart for Pennie’s to a scrapyard or run it until the wheels fall off and then complain.
I'm planning on buying a cheap BMW for my first car, do you think it'd be too much for me to handle?
It depends on the car, but generally speaking, buying a used BMW as a first car for a daily driver depends on how much driving you do. You will NEED some alternate form of transport.
Family car, bus, walking distance to work/stores are a must. Buying a cheap BMW for some transportation freedom is fine, as long as you’re prepared to spend ~$50-150 in maintenance and repair per month.
If you DIY, it’s ABSOLUTELY possible and feasible. The older 1980-2006 BMW’s are actually really easy to work on once you understand how the engineers intended for you to repair them. But I would recommend a Miata over a BMW for a first car. I own both, and I make that recommendation wholeheartedly.
I drove a 2003 325i for 10 years and put 135k more miles on it. 255k when I sold it and the engine and transmission were still solid. It never saw a mechanic that wasn’t me.
That said it was a pain in my ass
I now drive a Honda and have to invent reasons to open the hood.
That’s a very generalized statement, probably depends on the model/year/etc. They had some that were a bit unreliable, and some that are bulletproof. I don’t think you can lump BMW as a whole together. Just like any manufacturer. Honda has made some very reliable cars, and some unreliable cars.
Which models do you think are reliable? I've heard of people spending $10k on a $4k bmw, which are 15-20 years old. Of course many factors depends on the previous owners, but let's say they were maintained by the owner regularly.
The problem there is buying a luxury car for 4k. Repairs don't get cheaper because you paid less.
I’ve had 4 bmws over the last few years my friend has 4 m3’s and another buddy has one m3, out if the 4 I’ve had the e46 330ci has been a dead reliable tank, the e46 325i once again reliable the e53 x5 with the same engine as the 330 was a bucket interior wise but solid daily driver….now the e39 540i….fuck that car…bought it with 50k miles and lost track of how many times it’s been towed home. by friends e46 m3s are all solid but the e90 m3 LOVES limp mode but always clears with a key cycle so almost impossible to track why and the other guy…his e90 m3 thought he’d like to see all the internal spinny bits to the tune of 25k for a new ”used” engine…
And my bro daily drives his 340i every single day to work, tracked it, has over 100k miles, the only thing he has ever had to do was replace his front wheel bearings at 75k. It’s been a pretty solid car.
2013 335i xdrive m-sport I've had since 2018, currently at 350,000 km. Oh and I have MHD stage 2 tune.
Mostly just needed maintenance like new struts and tires. But I did have to replace the transfer case, that was the most expensive repair. Otherwise, valve cover gasket and oil filter housing gasket were replaced, that's a bit pricey. I don't think I've had anything else go wrong with it off the top of my head... oh, yeah, the gas tank vent line needed to be replaced.
This is not true at all. Internet is full of videos of actual mechanics saying how unreliable BMW is, pointing out concrete problems, such as oil leaks.
I'm from Germany and worked in a garage for a couple years here. I can support your statement for almost every EU brand. There are some absolutely bulletproof models from BMW but also some shit. The same can even be said for FIAT, Renault etc. as an example. Yes, it's not as safe as buying a Toyota, Honda, Suzuki ... where let's say, over half of their model range are bullet proof. With EU brands, I'd say around one third or a little less of their models have the reliability of their Japanese competitors.
For the German brands, their complexity adds to their reliability issues. More things in the car= more things to break. So, a very barebones BMW with a proven engine and transmission will take you forever.
I am 17 and have saved for my car since i started working and was wondering what i should buy. I found a 2018 BMW 3 series for $19,500 and am considering it.
Toyota, Honda, Mazda all make reliable and safe vehicles. They may not be the coolest, but you don't want to be busting your ass just to afford repairs on a BMW. I'd be looking at Civics, Corollas and Mazda 3s.
Whatever car you end up getting be sure to have it inspected by a mechanic. You don't want to buy someone else's headache.
What about an older lexus IS 300 or 250 in the 25k price range?
I absolutely love BMW's and have owned several, but that is not a car you want at 17 yo. It will absolutely bleed you dry with maintenance costs. I totally get wanting one, but unless you have expendable income, I don't recommend it at all.
Mazda3.
That BMW might be a bit too steep of a curve for your first car. Especially with finances in the event it needs anything in the near term. There is a risk attached to it you have to consider. Or, if the car all checks out and you aren’t stretched financially thin not only to own it, but also to afford the running costs (including hefty insurance) - go for it.
I second the Mazda3, absolutely loved that car.
Mazda3 is a great first car, some of the newer hatchbacks are very nice too
Mazda is a solid choice for a first car and a little less than Toyota or Honda.
There's nothing more expensive than a used BMW. It'll cost you a shit ton down the road. If you cannot afford two of it, you cannot afford it.
I'm here for the prohibitive insurance costs, a BMW at 17 years old is gonna cost a fortune to insure.
As a European, I think you need to refine that statement with "Nothing more expensive than an old cheap german sedan/coupe", atleast that's what we say here
Mobile mechanic here, most of my business does indeed come from starter cars that was impressive then turned expensive real quick.
Didn’t think about this before getting an Audi. Definitely hurts a bit even being 27 with no accidents or tickets.
best affordable bmw
Key Considerations for Affordable BMWs:
Model Selection: Look for models that are known for reliability and lower maintenance costs. The BMW 3 Series and 1 Series are often recommended for their balance of performance and affordability.
Age and Mileage: Consider purchasing a used BMW. Models that are 3-5 years old often provide the best value, as they have already depreciated significantly.
Maintenance Costs: BMWs can have higher maintenance costs compared to other brands. Research the specific model's reliability ratings and common issues.
Trim Levels: Opt for lower trim levels that still offer essential features without the added costs of luxury options.
Financing Options: Look for financing deals or certified pre-owned programs that can offer warranties and lower interest rates.
Recommendations:
BMW 3 Series (2015-2018): Known for its sporty handling and comfortable ride, the 3 Series is a great entry point into the BMW lineup. Look for models with the 320i or 328i engines for a good balance of performance and fuel efficiency.
BMW 1 Series (2015-2019): A compact hatchback that offers a fun driving experience and practicality. It's generally more affordable than the 3 Series and still retains the BMW driving dynamics.
BMW X1 (2016-2019): If you're looking for a compact SUV, the X1 provides a higher driving position and more cargo space while still being relatively affordable.
Takeaway: Focus on used models from reputable sources, and consider the total cost of ownership, including insurance and maintenance, to ensure you stay within your budget while enjoying the BMW experience.
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