TL;DR
Performance and Future-Proofing
For gamers looking for a CPU that provides both high performance and future-proofing, the Ryzen 7 7800X3D stands out. It delivers exceptional gaming performance that rivals CPUs released years later, thanks to its X3D technology [2:3]. The Ryzen 9 9800X3D also offers impressive performance, particularly when undervolted, making it a versatile choice for gaming and light productivity tasks
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Core Count Considerations
When choosing an AMD CPU for gaming, considering the core count is crucial. While older quad-core CPUs were once considered powerful, modern gaming demands more cores. An 8-core processor like the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is recommended for gaming, as it balances single-core speed with sufficient core count for multitasking [2:2].
AM4 Options
For those using an AM4 socket, the Ryzen 5 5800X3D is often cited as the best option for gaming on this platform [4:1]. However, upgrading from a 5800X might not yield significant improvements in gaming performance unless transitioning to AM5
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Market Trends and Comparisons
The competitive landscape between AMD and Intel shows that AMD's hardware quality is gaining recognition, although Intel still holds advantages in certain segments, such as battery efficiency in laptops [5:1]. Despite some challenges in supply and pricing, AMD CPUs remain a strong choice for gaming, especially with models like the 7800X3D and 9800X3D offering substantial performance benefits
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So, I ordered like 8 pieces to build a new Gaming rig for a friend. (Glad this isn't "mine" or I'd be PO'd)
A package with 3 of the 8 parts showed up today. One of the items in the box was the CPU.
I open packages like I normally do, tear them to bits like the Hulk.... jk, but yeah, just cut the tape on one side and tear the rest open... Just give me my new crap, right? Lol
So I start pulling things out of the box and Everything looks fine for the most part... but I notice on the CPU box... the white seal with the name of the processor and AMD logo on it had been ripped... I was like, oh, classic Amazon shipping me used/opened box crap when I ordered a new one... so I open it up to look at the processor and check for damage and realize what had happened... The CPU was completely missing...
I mean, I wasn't expecting something to be wrong, so I just opened it without actually thinking about it, so I didn't really pay too much attention to the shipping box, but I do not recall noticing anything wrong with the box when opening it, and I generally at least notice minor blemishes and damaged packages... But looking at the package after I opened it, I don't see evidence of cutting or re-taping, or whatever... OUTSIDE of what I did to open the box.
It still has what appears to be the original blue Amazon Thursday Night Football tape on it that likely came from the warehouse when it was packaged.
The shipping label is even on top of the tape as well and I even tore it in a way that I can see that it too was undamaged before I tore the box open.
So unless someone opened the package and re-sealed it almost perfectly... it seems that someone in the Amazon shipping/packaging warehouse has a shiny new 7800X3D...
TL;DR - Someone at Amazon warehouse stole a CPU and sent me an empty box.
Amazon is sending another overnight and crediting me $25 at least for the inconvenience. But still... this is the first time I've seen this kind of thing happen. I mean, I've received WRONG products or damaged or open box with a part swapped... but just completely and obviously stolen? That's crazy.
I'm literally shocked that Amazon's customer service was so thorough
I’m so glad amazon didn’t give you a hard time about it and were great/quick about remedying it tho
Yeah, I'm surprised they don't want some kind of evidence or whatever proving that I didn't just "claim" it was stolen, but I mean, how do you exactly "prove" that right? They don't even want the old packaging back. I mean, this is just a write off to them, so it's basically "F it", but still, maybe they can track the serial number to where it moved through logistics and maybe find something? I guess the cost involved in that probably doesn't outweigh the benefit there...
How much are you selling the spare part for? 🤔
You know how many times I've bought a hard drive from Amazon and it's been a drive from either another country or from a NAS setup or an external HDD and it's been faulty. I just stopped doing it cause I'm over it. I started buying my drives from Newegg to avoid the hassle.
Oh definitely, I get lots of crap that is wrong or otherwise broken/damaged. But just flat out stolen from the manufacturer box, without even just replacing it with some junk or whatever... lol this one is a first for me.
I had this happen with a portable water warmer (think baby bottle or tea warmer) that was rechargeable.
Bag was sealed, box inside completely empty. You'd think that something that light but bulky might trigger a sensor or something before they sent it on a truck, but nope!!!
Got a replacement but made to feel like a criminal on chat.........
Hey everyone I’m planning a CPU upgrade and want some advice.
Current build:
Options I can get (local prices):
honestly, grab the highest end 12-16 core thing you can afford. the problem with those is that they're all 6 and 8 core processors. 10 years ago a quad core was a beast. a 7700k still beats many newer chips in single core speeds, but the core count just ain't there for gaming anymore. 6 cores are going the same way, 8 cores will be next. an i7 5960x is still a very usable chip and it came out 11 years ago. Hardware is reaching its technical limits of how much power we can physically cram (and more importantly, cool) inside a normal sized IHS. So i'm willing to bet a 7950x or an x3d would last you at least a decade, probably closer to 15 years, hell maybe even 20.
>i'm willing to bet a 7950x or an x3d would last you at least a decade, probably closer to 15 years, hell maybe even 20
Almost certainly false. Even 10 years would be very much a surprise (unless with "last" you mean that the same old games will likely still run as they did a decade ago).
I disagree. there is literally ~1-2 fps difference between a 9950x3d (16 core) and 9800x3d (8 core)
A Core i7 7700K does not beat newer chips in single core speeds. Passmark example for Core i7 7700K vs Ultra 5 245K.
Going for any of the 8-core X3D chips is probably the best way to future proof for gaming.
X3D gives you the performance people will get only 4 years later with non-X3D CPUs.
Just take a look at the 5800X3D and how it still has similar performance as all non-X3D CPUs. And look how insanely far ahead is the 9800X3D.
9800X3D undervolted should last you a LONG time. For gaming as well as light productivity.
All the others depend very much on what you are planning to do in the future. You might be fine just sitting on a 7500F for the next 5 years, or you might not.
some extra context He is quoting some other guy that bought amd stock, at the time when george went in on amd hw
Once you see the quality of AMD's hardware, all that was left was for them to take software seriously. The gap between the valuation of AMD and NVIDIA doesn't make sense.
We will have AMD's software at parity with NVIDIA in 2-3 years if nobody else beats us to it.
2-3 years is to long ... will miss ai boom
AMD doesn't need 100% software parity to compete. Forrest talked about this. 80% is enough to cover all the most important and largest customers (and usecases).
Parity means it's game over for Nvidia, because AMD has better hardware.
I don’t think you can say it is game over for Nvidia. It is probably game over for their insane margins. The thing is that Nvidia has immense profit and cash generation and they are unlike Intel paranoid and visionary. They have unlimited resources. AMD is catching up but they will have to fight the mind share of Nvidia. Having said that , a 20% market share within 3 years is possible. AMD won the war against Intel by having total revenue half of Intel R&D spending! They know how to fight bigger competitor but they were helped by Intel complacency and big missteps.
AI infrastructure is gonna be a multi decades long build out … you really think we won’t need more compute in 2 years?
thats just his saying - if nobody beats him.... so if someone beats him, I mean lets hope Anush bring the A-game and make it happen faster!
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Funny : EX-AMD RAJA kadouri seems to have ordered AMD HW from Tinygrad/George hotz -
https://x.com/RajaXg/status/1965998056794632357 - tiny" box with 6 Radeons arrived today
u can see the box in the post
If you have been following raja, he is still anti-green even after leaving Team Red.
All about the TCO. Flops per watt baby! NVDA is now realizing their folly and starting to go into the same chiplet type philosophy from what I understand as a 5yr old. How much can you actually squeeze out of TSMC similar nodes?
Then what is it? The battle between closed and open source? I know where my money will go in that bet.
NVIDIA datacenter stuff already used chiplets at the top end. Problem is manufacturing cost and bottleneck in packaging capacity - effectively gluing multiple chiplets together into one substrate to form one complete chip (being solved)
A full H100 glued to another making a GB200 is not a chiplet... it is full SoC glued on another one... (dont quote me on exact model names but that is what they did). Chiplets as in the name is smaller units than actual full standalone chips and required to be combined to function as a unit and can be heterogeneous as well.
Nvidia has a 10x market cap. They are certainly not valued the same.
Looking to get a new CPU, mainly for Beamng Drive and Sim Racing in general, from my research the R9 5950X seems to be the current best is that right? Or is there a better CPU i should be looking for?
You can get a ryzen 7 5800x for like 140 on amazon right now
I already have a 5800x is the thing. I'm wondering if i should move to AM5 now or not lol. The 5800X i have does not like Beamng.Drive very much
If you've already got a 5800X, then anything else on AM4 is a side-grade at best; a 5950X would benefit productivity tasks that use the extra cores, but not gaming. Even a 5700X3D upgrade would not be worth the cost - you'd be getting a slight CPU boost, but at the cost of a few hundred dollars better spent on your next system upgrade.
What GPU are you currently using? Really, an AM5 upgrade is not even worth it unless you're also significantly upgrading your GPU.
Oh damn dude, better get to saving💔✌️
Not all AM4 cpus will be available, as they don't make some of them anymore I think. Unsure.
If you are buying a CPU for very specific games you should look at benchmarks for those specific games.
5700x3d
for AM4 gaming the 5800x3d or 5700x3d
I will firstly mention that there does seem to be some manufacturers treating their AMD and Intel equivalent laptops the same in terms of chassis, screen options etc however these manufacturers are in the minority.
The two most notable manufacturers are possibly MSI and Tongfang/Clevo chassis rebranded laptops.
MSI offers the only 18" 9955HX3D and RTX 5080/5090 laptop out there, the Raider A18 HX, using the same chassis as the Intel CPU based Raider 18 HX AI A2XW with similar port, screen options etc within reason. Neither of these Raiders have vapour chamber cooling though, that's for just the Titan 18 HX.
Here in Europe, XMG is arguably the most notable Tongfang/Clevo retailer, with the XMG Neo 16 offered in 9955HX/9955HX3D/Ultra 275HX trims, all with up to RTX 5090 GPU options, with the Neo 16 A25 being the only 16" 9955HX(3D) laptop with RTX 5080/5090 GPU options.
XMG also offers other lower performance gaming laptops with a range of Intel or AMD CPUs e.g. the AMD CPU Core 15/16, Intel CPU Pro 16.
I'd argue that XMG probably has one of the most balanced portfolios in terms of Intel/AMD CPU options and maxing out their respective laptops with the same GPUs.
Then there's manufacturers who offer AMD and Intel CPU gaming laptops but it seems favourable towards the Intel offerings.
Lenovo offers the Legion 5, Pro 5 and Pro 7 Gen 10 in Intel and AMD CPU options.
The Legion 5 and 5i both max out with RTX 5070 GPUs, the Pro 5 AMD the RTX 5070, yet the Pro 5i Gen 10 maxes out at the RTX 5070 ti.
The Legion Pro 7i Gen 10 maxes out at a RTX 5090, whereas the recently released 9955HX/9955HX3D Pro 7 Gen 10 maxes out at a RTX 5080.
Likewise Asus treats their AMD CPU offerings differently to their Intel CPU ones.
This year's Strix Scar lineup is Intel CPU only, whereas the 2023 lineup had Intel and AMD CPU options.
The Intel CPU Strix G16/G18 get the new 2025 chassis as the Strix Scar 16/18, whereas the AMD CPU Strix G16/G18 get the older 2023/2024 Strix G16/G18 chassis.
The AMD CPU Strix G16 maxes out with a 9955HX3D/RTX 5070 ti combination, whereas the Intel model maxes out at a 275HX/RTX 5080 combination.
The AMD Strix G18 maxes out with a RTX 5070, whereas the Intel Strix G18 maxes out with a RTX 5080.
Worth noting that the AMD CPU Zephyrus G14 maxes out with a ~110W RTX 5080, whereas the Zephyrus G16 maxes out with a ~125W RTX 5080/5090.
The 2023 Zephyrus G14 and M16 both had up to RTX 4090 GPUs for reference.
I'll also mention Acer here, whilst some of their budget gaming laptops have AMD CPU options, all of their more premium 2025 gaming laptops (Helios Neo, Helios and Triton) are Intel CPU options only.
Razer this year offers the Blade 14 and 16 with AMD CPUs only, whereas the Blade 18 is Intel CPU only.
However the 2025 Blade 18 gets a Ultra 9 275HX CPU, whereas the 2025 Blade 16 gets a Ryzen 9 HX 370 CPU at best, not a Ryzen 9 9955HX(3D), presumably due to better battery life and better suited for a thinner lighter chassis but it's clear that the HX370 holds the RTX 5090 Blade 16 back somewhat in games.
HP has a mixture of AMD and Intel GPU gaming laptops for 2025 but I do think they did the Omen MAX 16 dirty as the Intel model goes up to a Ultra 275HX/RTX 5090, whereas the AMD version maxes out with the HX 375 and RTX 5080, which is weird given AMD's answer to the Ultra 275HX is the Ryzen 9 9955HX/9955HX3D.
Gigabyte's higher tier Aorus laptops this year seem to be Intel CPU only, though the Aero X16 at least has a AMD CPU option.
Then there's companies with no notable AMD CPU gaming laptops, at least not at the midrange/higher end.
Dell/Alienware's Aurora(X) and Area-51 lineups are Intel CPU only. This is in stark contrast to previous years, with Dell not only offering laptops with AMD CPUs but also being a pretty big AMD Advantage Edition partner (Alienware M16R1 with the 7600M XT, the only 7900M laptop, the M18R1 etc).
These are some examples, there's other brands but I honestly do feel like a lot of manufacturers for one reason or another are pushing their Intel CPU offerings first and foremost, even though AMD have solid equivalent CPU offerings and it's annoying to see, it seems like they don't care about putting AMD's CPUs in their laptops.
AMD's supply chain may be part of this issue but the fact there's a lot more RTX 50 series laptops with Intel CPUs, especially with higher tier laptops isn't a good look.
Multiple reasons. Politics is the major one. Intel have got a lot to do with their CPUs getting better SKUs than AMD.
But AMD have only really got themselves to blame. A couple of years ago, when AMD CPUs were objectively better and OEMs specced them in their systems, they couldn't deliver any of them. The OEMs got burned. You can understand them not being willing to take the risk again.
Rumours are also flowing around that AMD chips are now more expensive than they used to be, so that advantage is gone too.
And frankly, the Intel CPUs are excellent now so it doesn't matter anyway. I'd even go ahead and argue they are generally better for most people in gaming laptops. The X3D CPUs, especially, are absolute dogshit at battery life
Those are definitely valid points but manufacturers like Asus shouldn't be using two different chassis for what should otherwise be the same laptop in theory.
If you look at desktop CPU pricing, neither AMD or Intel really are "cheap" at the higher end in particular.
A Ultra 285K has a MSRP of around $590, a 9950X3D around $699.
The comment from above is right, the main reason is AMD can't or don't want to make much laptop chips, this is why there's basically no laptops with AMD CPU and GPU, and laptops with AMD CPU became somehow not the top. And top AMD CPU laptops became pretty rare. Also, new AMD CPUs (the deskto-like built ones, with three chiplets) are incredibly hungry, my CPU eats ~25W just sitting on idle, despite both core chiplets are eating less than a watt at this moment, the IO chiplet just turns power into heat with no reason, you could easily see it with HWmonitor. So yeah, battery life is disgusting, I'm not using laptop almost anywhere with absence of outlet, but for many people its a reason for not to buy.
OEMs never pay MSRP so you should never use direct consumer pricing as a comparison.
As for different chassis, they have to. The mechanical specifications regarding height, pressure, due size, etc of the Intel CPUs are not the same as the AMD CPUs. wrong on this one
Legion Pro 7i with 9955HX3D maxing out at RTX5080 is just a kick in the gut - the best performing laptop CPU, but can't be paired with the best mobile GPU for some reason.
This has been talked about to death, AMD can’t compete in terms of supply and providing support to OEMs to create the board. Intel does and has been doing so for much longer.
As a business owner, would you rather sell a product with reliable supply thats slightly inferior or a product that’s slightly superior but with significantly lower supply?
It's been like that forever. That being said Intel Currently offers the best CPU at each segment
Best high battery: lunar lake Best balanced: arrow lake 255h Best high power: 275hx
Intel has actually got the BATTERY part down, and is well ahead of AMD.
And I've been the LOUDEST YouTube for years about people needing to consider AMD. But AMD fell asleep
Can you explain why the 275HX is better than the 9955HX & HX3D?
I have a 275HX laptop but would've preferred one of the AMD CPU due to some of my workloads not utilising the E Cores at all, but the manufacturer didn't have the GPU I wanted with the CPU I wanted.
Cuz 9955hx and 9955hx3d are 9950x/x3d but brought down to laptop. AMD desktop CPU tends to have high idle wattage, and that applied to AMD HX CPU on laptops as well.
One ex is Mechrevo Canglong Ultra 16 (TongFang laptop but in China) with 9955hx3d 5070ti miniled 99whr battery, even at minimum config for light usage it showed only 4 hrs battery on PC Mark 10.
Source: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Hd8tzCEha/
That's very low battery when compared with other gaming laptops. The ones assembled by XMG got better result, but it's still lower than Intel counterpart (352 mins web surfing vs 572 mins for 275HX counterpart).
XMG 9955HX3D review: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-9955HX3D-and-RTX-5090-Laptop-for-maximum-gaming-performance-XMG-Neo-16-A25-review.1028019.0.html
If you're using HX CPU I don't think you'll be using it on battery power.
Battery power isn't used for gaming… And the 255HX and 275HX actually offer incredibly good battery life and park very well. Unlike 13th generation and 14th generation stuff.
On the complete flipside drag range stuff like the 7945HX, and 9945HX, have absolutely horrendously shit battery life, I'm talking 25 to 40 W idle burn
Versus 10 or even lower on a 255 or 275HX.
And you see that's the secret. These new Intel laptops you can actually use them extensively on battery power, and only stick yourself into the wall when you're doing things like gaming. Whereas the dragon range stuff and previous generation Intel both you're looking at like an hour to an hour and a half battery life. Remember… Even large gaming laptops are not only used for gaming. 👍
Yep!
ryzen in laptops is fantastic...theres nothing really bad about em to say, other than i wish more super low power configs existed. (like sub 10w stuff) because rn, my favorite device is my surface with snapdrsgon in it because of its battery life.
i wana see more competition in this area.
Gf got ap laptop with an ryzen 7 that is alrdy 2-3 yrs old.. and still absolutely crushes it performance wise… especially if you consider shes one of those people eho constantly got about 30 tabs open in her browser at all times… Also doing extremely well on battery life too. Cant say much about intel on mobile tho admittedly.
Intel's CPU architecture is fine tuned for operating in low power budgets, it is greatly superior in laptops.
Unfortunately, AMD's GPU architecture is waaaay beyond what Intel achieves, and we're more often GPU limited than CPU limited in a laptop.
1080p or 1440p ? For photo editing and multitasking I would take an 8 cores cpu
It’s not going to be Heavy editing just the odd photo here and there
It's ok, I'd want to fix a few things like that poor quality power supply, case, NVME, and the stock cooler.
Yeah someone said that on the other post should be fine until I’m ready to upgrade ?
Why not just try get it right first time? The power supply is a pain to upgrade. And you'll spend more upgrading it later than just getting something good first time
Looks perfect for what you're planning to do
So glad you shared this and that the replies are good. I’m considering buying this myself!
Good luck
get it, seems correct value
Looking good!
More than capable of handling these games at 1080p and your photo editing. Since it's the current platform, you could easily swap the CPU put for something better in the future. The CPU cooler is pretty crappy but will do fine for that CPU. That's another thing you can upgrade down the line. You'll probably want to add more storage at some point. 1tb fills up quickly. Overall, I think it's a good entry-level PC at a good price.
Piece by piece as close as I could get costs about the same price. So yeah, it's a good deal.
shows $449 on my Amazon
This website…. Idk man.
So AMD 6 core era is now the new Intel 4 core era. They're gonna milk consumers with this bullshit for years to come until Intel steps up with competition.
Granted zen 4 to zen 5 was pretty underwhelming BUT intel didn't just stall in core count but also in core performance. If we continue to get 6 cores but with (significant) ipc increases, that is progress.
Rumor has it we will be getting core count increases with zen 6.
I mean the 600x could definitely move up to 8 cores, but a cheap 500f being 6 cores is fine with me as long as they stay cheap
Just make the Ryzen 5 a Ryzen 3, the Ryzen 7 a Ryzen 5 and the x900 Ryzen 9 a Ryzen 7. That would simplify everything.
So, Ryzen 3 would be 6 cores, Ryzen 5 8 cores, Ryzen 7 12 cores and the Ryzen 9 a 16 core CPU
So 9600x with no igpu
And bit lower clocks
You got it
Certified Aliexpress classic
Ali express is gonna have field day with this one
ok but how about an international release
best amd cpu for gaming
Key Considerations for Choosing the Best AMD CPU for Gaming:
Core Count and Threads: Modern games benefit from higher core counts. Look for CPUs with at least 6 cores and 12 threads for optimal performance. For future-proofing, consider 8 cores or more.
Clock Speed: Higher base and boost clock speeds can improve gaming performance. Aim for a CPU with a base clock of at least 3.5 GHz and a boost clock of 4.0 GHz or higher.
Architecture: AMD's Ryzen 5000 series (Zen 3 architecture) offers significant performance improvements over previous generations. The Ryzen 7000 series is also available, providing even better performance and efficiency.
Compatibility: Ensure the CPU is compatible with your motherboard (AM4 for Ryzen 3000 and 5000 series, AM5 for Ryzen 7000 series) and that you have the appropriate cooling solution.
Integrated Graphics: If you don't have a dedicated GPU, consider CPUs with integrated graphics, like the Ryzen 5 5600G, which can handle light gaming.
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