TL;DR
Core Items
Lucian's core build often includes Blade of the Ruined King (BotRK) and Black Cleaver. BotRK provides sustain and playmaking potential with its active ability, while Black Cleaver offers armor penetration and additional health [1:1]
[1:2]. The choice between Phantom Dancer and Rapid Fire Cannon as a Zeal item depends on your strategy; Phantom Dancer is better for dueling and split pushing, while Rapid Fire Cannon is ideal for team fights where you need to hit the backline from a distance
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Situational Items
Infinity Edge is often included in Lucian's build for increased critical strike damage [3:2]. Depending on the enemy team composition, situational items such as Guardian Angel for survivability against assassins, Last Whisper for dealing with tanks, and Bloodthirster for additional lifesteal can be considered
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[2:2]. Death's Dance may also be preferred over Bloodthirster against bruisers due to its passive reducing burst damage
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Runes
Press the Attack (PTA) is a popular rune choice for Lucian. His passive allows him to quickly proc PTA's three-hit active, providing significant damage output [3:1]. Conqueror is another option, but PTA is generally favored for its synergy with Lucian's kit.
Power Spikes and Playstyle
Lucian is categorized as an early to mid-game champion, with his peak effectiveness typically reached after completing Essence Reaver and Navori Quickblades or Infinity Edge [4:1]
[4:2]. His power spike occurs at level 6 when he gains access to his ultimate ability
[4:4]. Playing aggressively and mastering his combos are crucial to maximizing his potential
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Additional Considerations
Lucian's win rate may be below 50%, but he remains a strong pick when played aggressively and paired with non-mage supports [5:1]. Watching professional players like Bvoy can provide insights into effective gameplay strategies
[5:6].
I've looked through several guides, all saying different things about the items picked up, and it just puts me on 4 levels of confused. What's usually the best way to build Lucian?
Look on ProBuilds, just copy what they do is the blanket answer. The core will almost always be the same, botrk, Black cleaver, zeal item, then you can go IE and then from there it just depends on what you need, if there’s assassins, pick up GA, if there’s tanks, pick up a last whisper item. Go executioners route if it’s like Swain or Soraka or Mundo. If you’re super far ahead and you don’t necessarily NEED anything, BT is a good pick up. It’s pretty dependent on the games, but just look at probuilds if you need help with the core items on any champion. Lucian included.
To expand on this, make sure you build the cutlass part of Bork first for sustain and playmaking with the active. When you get into black cleaver always buy phage first as well.
I ask this because some people say take phantom dancer some other say firecannon so im lost xd
easy mode build- blade of the ruined king, attack speed boots, black cleaver, rapid fire cannon, infinity edge, blood thirster, in that order (buy boots alongside blade of the ruined king with spare gold).
Complications: merc treads and tabis are sometimes better than beserks phantom is better than rapid fire cannon if they have a lot of assassins or bruisers deaths dance is better against bruisers and assassins than blood thirster because of the reduced burst damage from deaths dance's passive sometimes you have incredibly ape teams and you're sitting with 4k out and you just need to do as much damage as possible. Simple solution- sell boots for a third crit item, that item being rapid fire cannon or phantom dancer, whichever you dont have. They give passive movement speed so you're not too much slower and you get movement speed from auto-ing thanks to black cleaver passive so you're actually not too slow and you'll have 100% crit chance. If your team is really that ape, it usually doesn't actually matter that youve sold boots for the 100% crit but sometimes it's that little extra bit of damage output that lets you 1v9
bork + thirster is a bit ott
a what?
Korean Lucian: Youmuu's GhostBlade, Berserkers Greaves, Black Cleaver, Rapid Fire Cannon, Essence Reaver, (6th Item is up to you)
People say one or the other bc your zeal choice is situational. PD is good when you're planning to split push and 1v2 or 2v2. Also realy good against assassins in 1v1s. RFC is good when you plan on team fighting and you need to hit the backline without getting too deep.
PD is better for dueling if people are going to be hitting you. Read the items, pick which is best.
I found a build for him that doesn't use BotRK that works really well, ER into BC and full crit after
Hello lucianmains, I recently started playing Lucian cause I think he's a lot of fun but I've never really understood the best runes for him or items. For the most part I just copy what mobafire says without really understanding what's going on. Looking at the mobafire build, can someone please explain why those runes and the "optimal build" items go well with him? Thank you.
Edit: ex-jungle main BTW. The role is too stressful in S10 so switching to ADC :)
I put notes for each build on the mobafire guide you have to hover your mouse over it, but anyways optimal build means we would want to take this unless they have tanks, or you need to have sustain in lane so you can build BOTRK which is labeled in a different build, situational items can be used at any time if you feel the need to switch your last few items up but for now ER IE is the strongest.
Thanks for replying and thanks for the awesome guide!
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save yourself now, and do not learn this role. i regret it everyday. :(
I can see why you would say that. I seems like if your support or jungler do bad you can still lose the lane no matter how good you are. I started playing League around 3 months ago, for now I'm exploring all roles; want to play each role for 2 months to better understand the champion pool for each lane and the matchups then later decide what I want to main.
Lol, I feel the pain of being adc. It made me swap back to my early s9 jg role. Played jg, then swapped to lucian main. Then this season, Ekko is my go to.
i’m not sure about the conqueror path although lucian can easily stack it. however PTA is extremely good for lucian as due to his passive he can proc the three hit active pretty quickly and with good damage too. other runes are just adc norms going for either sustain in lane or scaling in the rest of the game.
Thanks. also how do you deal with Yasuo? His windfall makes it impossible to deal damage to him and farm. I get stomped on :(
Play around the high cooldown :D it’s a 22 seconds cooldown optimally you could poke his shield from far with W then auto and E forward auto then Q technically if you’re fast enough he shouldn’t have his windwall back up
Good morning everyone, I'm collecting data for research.
While I don't main this champion, I want to better understand the mechanics.
I figured asking in the dedicated subreddit would be the best approach.
I'm looking for structured, simple data. So, for those of you with extensive experience:
Just these five straightforward questions.
Thanks for your help! :)
1.mid game (early too but not that good)
after er and navori (or ie)
no
no
buffs made ppl upgrade w instead of e, thats the point of lucian coming back into the meta last 2 patches
You max W instead of E? I haven’t played in a while now
Yeah upgrading E barely lowers the cd of it, but upgrading w boosts your dmg by a decent amount
Only power spike is 6. Riot needs to stop nerfing us.
We already have the lowest attack range.
Lucian is an easy to pick up hard to master champion, his passive plays a key role in his ability to dish out a lot of damage at all stages of the game. He is definitely an early to mid game champion but he does have tools in his kit take down targets in the late to end game.
I would classify him as a (Spell-Weaving Duelist) I know that’s not correct since he’s an ADC but you do get a lot of value out of your passive. And the passive procs are every time an enemy is hit with cc like a Morgan Q, or if Lucian himself is buffed by another ally spell like nami Bubbles or J4 flag thingy. I would pair him with an enchanter. someone that can add some extra gold value to amplify his passive further (lulu, yummi, nami, karma) or someone with a lot of hard cc (Leona, and naut, braum)
I normally do ER into Collector but these two are interchangeable or drop collector for another crit item. I would then pick up IE. After that it’s a toss up between BT and LDR.
If kraken slayer ever receives a buff or receives its crit hit chance back I would say rush kraken into er or ie and totally skip collector.
I generally don’t build a zeal item on Lucian because I like to play around his passive but if I had to build one it would be rapid fire cannon just for the extra range since he does suffer with low range compared to other ADC. With that being said when you get into a fight you have to commit to it ESPECIALLY in the early game.
his WR is below 50% but that doesnt mean a champion is weak, jayce in my opinion is broken, in a balanced way. he really is capable of any matchup but some like yorick are super hard. other than that i love him for his complexity and capability.
but i ask if thats the same with lucian? is he a high skill champ that only players that mastered lucian can effectively reap the strengths on him?
I want to know why is his winrate low, to give me an idea of how the champion is because im considering of picking up lucian into my roster.
hes fine. need to play aggro and get a lead and that sometimes depends on ur support too, unfortunately.
Watch bvoy’s game 2 vs flyquest
what's so special about this game? rather boring
They are just saying that because Lucian was almost one shotting Massu.
This is late game with nami E and running electrocute. Shouldn't be surprising.
I was going to say this lol
He's very strong rn. Just play aggressively and don't pick him with mages.
You have to get very good at his combos or don't bother playing him as he not good at auto attacking.
1st item: ER always (why? Gives Lucian unlimited mana)
Boots: Ionian or Beserkers. (Depending on enemy team + your build going foward. Auto a lot? Berserk, lots of dive and mobility ionian for faster e resets.)
2nd item: LDR or IE if ahead (I prefer LDR as it boosts Q and R damage roughly the same as IE and doesn’t rely on crits to get full item value but has 35 less AD than IE but is 400 gold cheaper with a better build path for lane phase)
3rd item: Spear of Shojin or BT(could go Navori if you already have IE but SoS offers more survivability, where Navori offers more damage output potential, but I find the attack speed not as valuable to the hp and ad unless I have ER & IE)
4th item: Blood Thirster/IE (if you have a healer support you could go IE/LDR depending on what you didn’t buy)
5th item: LDR if 2+ champs with some armor stacked , IE if you want more damage , Shieldbow if you need more survivability against burst, BT if you need lifesteal
A budget build looks like ER>Ionian>LDR>SoS>BT>Shieldbow
A luxury build looks like ER>Grevius>IE>LDR>SoS>BT/SB
Ngl, I don't think I've ever built SoS on Lucian but I usually don't get Navori either.
Most often, my build looks like: ER>Boots>IE/LDR>LDR/IE>Situational (BT, RFC, Collector, GA, Maw)
I just started playing Lucian again so i been cruising the subreddit, I agree he doesn’t have the best optimization, but he has a lot of build diversity, I personally never build RFC as I just find it weird on low range marksmen compared to other zeal items like pd or Navori for short range adcs. Someone like cait jinx and Ashe RFC feels so opressive
I'm definitely interested, I'm gonna try some SoS games but I want you to try some RFC Lucian into those long range match ups haha. The extra range you get gives you a chunky E poke into squishy targets.
It synergizes surprisingly well with him. He can hit the 12% damage boost pretty fast and the 35 haste feels better than Navori in situations you can’t auto as much , pair it with a shieldbow or maw, you’re hard to kill and very mobile, I’d definitely recon trying it out in a normal
Except he doesn't hit it extremely fast. Unlike Ezreal and Smolder he doesn't perma spam Q on everything he sees (and when he does spam Q on a wave he gets about 2 Qs before the wave is gone), and in a fight, he usually just gets like 2 stacks off (with his Q and W) before either someone dies or he dies (since his E doesn't proc shit and his R procs it once). The only thing that really benefits the damage increase is just his Q and R, and unlike something like Ezreal, this is not the bulk of his damage.
The raw stats are still nice I guess, but the damage increase is really barely noticeable on him. I used to build it on him way back when they still displayed the increased damage you get on Shojin, and obviously on someone like Jayce it's a solid 10% total damage contribution, but on Lucian it's extremely minimal simply because 60-70% of his damage comes from autos.
Essence reaver was hardly built before this patch? What makes Essence reaver suddenly good?
Personally, I liked ER>kraken/collector even right after rework. You definitely have less DPS but you have a lot more AD plus the mana and ability haste is very nice. This lets you perma push and if you play around your ult timer you can easily delete squishies, largely out of their range. Kraken and Collector both help you a lot more early but I think ER makes you stronger mid game.
I don't buy Zerks. I prefer Ionian>MC>Plated. I like to go ER+Navori and if fed ER+IE+Navori.
I tried rushing LDR a ton and never saw it as a core item and more as situational. Vs a Mundo, Tahm, Ornn, etc LDR was never enough to fully peel them. Maybe Tahm, but LDR isn't as strong as it used to be with its max%HP dmg. Why I prefer my core always as ER+Navori+IE.
Only impact that's made a huge difference in my games is my boots choice. If you don't go MC Vs a lilia+Ashe, etc or a Plated Vs Zed+Noct, etc then you'll likely struggle hard early.
I'd rather not focus on tanks anymore early because you need 4items to kill a tank as Lucian. Respectfully 3, but the issue is that IE is essential because say you go something like...
ER+LDR+Bork
You peel and can only 1v1 the tank, but a MF/Cait/Kaisa/Jhin/etc is going to roll up on you with IE/BT and just outdmg/outsustain you because you're rushing LDR or peel items early in general.
Lucian has to get IE early to contest people he's meant to kill. If there's like a Swain+Tahm in your bot lane then yeah you'd probably take like FS as a rune+ER+YT+LDR or something like that and hope you peel and farm gold to rush your peel items faster.
Basically if you're against tanks I'd prefer FS as a rune and try to reach that 4item play fast.
YunTal is a good item that deals less dmg than IE, but it kind of serves as a less ranged RFC where it works great in high crit% to let you pseudo engage over and over. 2combos E in, E out, repeat and your able to sustain dmg on them. YT+LDR work nice together because you're building noonquiver back fo back and having gold efficiency.
TLDR: Gold Efficient Vs Tanks
Another thing, the RFC topic. RFC sucks rn. BT is a strong prevalent item rn that every ADC is building and some rushing first like MF/Draven, maybe Samira, etc.
RFC doesn't do shit rn. It shouldn't. If you can utilize it before someone gets BT or you're fed then yea. But BT is getting as popular as Barrier now where everyones learning how strong it is and RFC is becoming less prominent. I wouldn't recommend the item. I prefer Lucian to be strong in skirmishes, not poking/bursting with a weak item in a BT+Barrier environment.
I agree, Lucian truely doesn’t need zerks and feels better with mc or ionian. In terms of basic spells and autos yes IE 2nd is better if you can pull some crits off, but in the post I was mainly talking about Q and R because I’ve ulted a bruiser/tank with a full perfect R without LDR 2nd and that shit just tickles them. Realistically in league you’ll never build the same items in the same order every game, or at least shouldn’t (if you’re above silver lol) I haven’t given yuntal a chance because of how little Lucian auto attacks so I didn’t wanna invest in it as it seems like a good late item if u can auto multiple times and stack the bleed. I’ll have to try it out, but I’m glad u feel the same about RFC it’s just too niche rn
It's going to tickle them either way. Maybe you'll kill them, but you shouldn't be focusing a tank either way as Lucian. He's there to just take some dmg and force someone to rotate where you then kill said supp/adc/mid etc.
Problem is that most tanks rn are building warmogs instead of flat armor. It's why new LDR into new warmog meta feels like shit. Don't have HP peel anymore unless you build bork, but rushing bork sets you behind.
I burst the tank 80% almost dead full send R all summs, he comes back 15s later after skirmish full health trying to skirmish again. It's why I'm not playing around just my R this season or focusing tanks as much. No point.
Is black cleaver still viable instead of LDR? Cooldown and HP also it’s easy to stack 30% armor penn with lucians abilities
No lol, the only build for Lucian is collector into IE then a RFC from there u can get what is needed for the game
Returning to Lucian recently, seems the most popular rune by far is the lifesteal rune, instead of the attack speed one. I don't understand this, why is that good?
I'm relatively new to lucian, so take this as a very personal opinion. From what I've seen (I've spammed like 40 lucian games in the span of a week), lucian doesn't really need attack speed, the second passive auto in uncancelable and E is an auto reset. So in a burst combo attack speed is pretty useless. Also the sustain is nice since you already need so many items to work (ER, IE, Navori, LDR) having to also build lifesteal means you don't get access to that stat till last item.
I guess attackspeed would be more dps vs tanks and better all-ins early game, but it comes with the trade off of relying always on your support to heal you for sustain
Alacrity is better, it's better early and it improves your DPS at all stages Bloodline scales nicely because it means you aren't forced to buy a BT and if you want say 100% crit with your first four items you get a bit of lifesteal and if you are really in a pinch and let's you buy dorans blade. Idk what riot should do but alacrity is what you want bloodline feels like what you need.
Because ur usually not building life stealuntil ur 4th item. So the life steal from the rune and Doran’s kind of fills that gap
You’re right attack speed is better in soloq.
Because Lucian damage comes from empowered autos but he has a lackluster DPS. Attack speed will be on his build already due to Navori for reducing CDs from basic abilities but attack speed is not a good stat for Lucian. Attack speed on Alacrity is also kind of bad - the rune when completed is worthy 450g iirc, while other runes are worthy more.
Hi everybody! Not really a Lucian main, but I've played him quite a bit back in the days when he was popular in mid. Recently my friend has started playing nami support so I was thinking about giving him a try again.
For what I've seen people always build ER - Navori - Infinity Edge, in some rare cases I've seen someone go collector 1st, but the build is almost always the same. While for runes I've seen both PtA and Elettrocute.
What are your personal favourite runes? Is there any other available build other then this? Is it troll to go for a more on-hit oriented build with kraken? Or maybe i was thinking of a more lethality oriented build with Voltayc
Pta is much better than electrocute mid game, electrocute patch falls faster in late game than pta (it's not necessarily the PTA vs electrocute, it's the entire path that makes it better late).
And since Lucian weakness is late game, I'd rather go pta
One could also argue the opposite: since Lucian shines in the early stages, getting Elettrocute could enable you to bully everyone and get some really absurd damage spikes.
I get the point but you don't need to make early game easier, it's already easy to bully the lane
meta is PTA but I like using first strike also gd Vs tanks and procing off ult for a pickoff mid/late is nice - if I win lane a lot I go collectors but either this or essence reaper are your go to go IE next for dmg or also nice to go navoris second item if better for outplay / staying alive
I usually do ER>IE>LDR>zeal in most of my games now. It doesn’t feel as nice to not spam abilities as much, but between targets you’ll have better burst, a stronger ult that’ll also soak up ability down time, and immediate counter to armor. Even if the bruiser/tanks haven’t built armor yet, they probably have tabis or they’re already queuing it up with a chainmail vest
Go ER into IE in Black Cleaver. Korean build. Will help you climb to challenger and perhaps go pro in the near future. Your future is in your hands, and you can start today.
I can almost touch the irony through my screen, but I don't understand if you hate Korean builds, people asking for advices or the solo Q environment
While they are being sarcastic, BC with tabis actually is a solid choice if you need to survive AD assassins/burst so you can output your dps. I build that whenever I don’t have an enchanter and my tank doesn’t have exhaust/I didn’t ask them. Even if those do exist on the team, your effective amount of health will let you survive even longer. Only problem comes when teammates don’t know what your building and bitch when they aren’t in your position
When I am behind and they have lots of tanks I like to forgo navori and often go er ldr, ldr scales well and is a bit cheaper than IE
Statistically speaking according to lolalytics ldr is pretty bad but I think xpetu rates the item really highly with his win probability stat
Hello sorry if this question has been asked a lot I’m a player who plays all lanes and I’m looking to add lucian to my adc pool he’s a very fun champ and watching players like doublelift on him is insane anyways I was wondering about what builds you take and maybe runes aswell Personally I’ve been going pta Triumph-Bloodline-Coup de grace with manaflow band and gathering storm as for build BORK Into ER into attack speed boots IE and double Zeal depends on ennemy comp and sometimes I replace one Zeal item with LDR or mortal reminder Thank you to everyone
I find that if you are building ER early then it’s a bit pointless to take Mana Flow Band. I take Inspiration secondary with boots and biscuits.
Also I’ve been playing around with taking Presence of Mind like GRF Viper does. I find that it usually does more for me than triumph. In early kills it’s good cuz you dump all your mana killing the enemy but that run out of mana and struggle to push in the wave quickly. So PoM allows you to have a better back timing. And in mid game you get more ult up time. I like having ult up a lot because I find that I tend to be zoned out of teamfights a lot by bruisers or CC supports. Ult allows me to still contribute without suiciding.
The build right now is ER > IE > Zeal > Situational. 75% Crit is enough; 100% Crit can be a bit redundant.
Yes, a lot of people take BoRK first, esp pros. I personally feel that in solo que BoRK is a much more situational item now. Pros take it because they have extended laning phases and BoRK helps a lot with doing Baron.
In comparison to ER, BoRK deals a lot less damage against squishies so I feel like you get a stronger and faster powerspike rushing ER > IE than BoRK > ER > IE. It’s important to avoid 3 item powerspikes right now because most the meta ADCs that hyperscale and out scale Lucian have 3 item powerspikes (ex: Xayah, Kaisa). Hence, a 2 item powerspike allows you to close out the game faster before the enemy ADC truly comes online.
Thank you for the long answer really appreciate it
best build for lucian in league of legends
Key Considerations for Lucian Builds
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Core Items:
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Situational Items:
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Recommendation: Start with Galeforce for mobility and burst, then build towards The Collector and Infinity Edge for maximum damage output. Adjust your situational items based on the enemy team composition to enhance your effectiveness in fights.
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