TL;DR
Hands Inside the Ball
A recurring theme in the discussions is the importance of keeping your hands inside the ball when hitting inside pitches. This technique helps maintain bat control and prevents rolling over or fouling off pitches [1:4]. Practicing swings close to a fence or wall can help reinforce this concept by ensuring your hands stay inside without hitting the obstacle
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Swing Mechanics
Improving swing mechanics is crucial for consistently hitting inside pitches. One effective drill is using a tee to place the ball where an inside pitch would be, then practicing hitting it up the middle. This forces you to tighten your mechanics and clear your hips and hands [2:4]. Another approach is focusing on keeping your front side closed longer and throwing your hands before rotating pull-side
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Stride and Timing
Adjusting your stride can also aid in hitting inside pitches. Striding towards third base can help open your hips and get your bat inside the ball [2:2]. Additionally, timing plays a significant role; hitting the inside pitch out in front of the plate rather than at the plate like with an outside pitch can improve consistency
[3:3].
Drills for Shoulder-Hip Separation
To generate torque and feel shoulder-hip separation in your swing, try the pause drill. Step towards the pitcher in your load, pause, and count to two. This should help you feel the backside tension wanting to release [5:1]. Such drills can enhance your ability to hit inside pitches by improving your overall swing dynamics.
Avoiding Common Pitfalls
Some hitters struggle with inside pitches due to over-rotation or having a long, slow swing. It's important to address these issues by refining swing path and mechanics [3:4]
[3:7]. Avoiding extreme uppercut swings can also reduce the margin for error and increase precision
[3:4].
People will say things like hands in, for example, but if you’re anything like me it’s really hard to think and swing.
One trick that an old coach taught me was to have movement in your stance. Do you know how Sheffield wags the bat? Doesn’t have to be that extreme. But the key is to point the bat head at the pitcher. Go back and forth lightly.
On pitch, you’ll (Hopefully) instinctively Pull your hands in when you pull the bat back and cock your swing.
Hitting inside pitches is about bat control. And a some hitters who have “still” swings struggle to control the bat sometimes. You need to be really loose and fast. That was me at least.
Alright, thank you for the tip!
Comes down to keeping your hands inside the ball. My high school hitting coach would face me 6 inches from a chain link fence and tell me to practice my swing full speed. You let your hands creep out on that fence and you won’t do it again. I learned to keep my hand inside real quick.
The way I was taught to do this drill is to stand exactly the bat's length away from the wall (so just stick it between your chest and the wall and stand there). Once you get comfortable with this kind of swing then you can move even closer to the wall. Clear those hands like Manny Ramirez used to.
I will try it in a little bit. Thanks!
try standing a bit further off the plate and using a longer bat/choking down so you can still reach outside pitches
Lean into the pitch and use your elbow as a bat.
The one game used baseball I've bought was from a Nats Park grabbag... It was a foul ball from Tabata's first career game. Jerks.
Just work on your hips and staying balanced.
Thanks!
I don’t think this is good advice. Hitting inside pitches boils down to getting your hands inside the baseball and having good bat control. Making the bat longer and heavier is only going to make addressing both of those issues more difficult. Fixing holes in your swing should be about correcting the underlying issues that created the problem in the first place, not ignoring them. There’s some other great advice in this thread on bat control, but this doesn’t seem like a good fix to your problem.
Anything low and away I can pretty much flick a liner anywhere from second base to the right field line at will, but on the inside pitch I feel like I ground the ball to the shortstop all the time. Don't know if I am as bad with the high ball (I stand real far back in the box) but I am much better at turning the low ball into base hits
On inside pitches try striding towards 3b. Will allow you to open your hips and get your bat inside the ball.
Otherwise grab a tee and learn how to get your hands inside on the ball.
Anything low and away I can pretty much flick a liner anywhere from second base to the right field line at will.
- Go through your process and remember how your arms are extended with that swing, especially with those line drives.
On the inside pitch I feel like I ground the ball to the shortstop all the time. Don't know if I am as bad with the high ball (I stand real far back in the box) but I am much better at turning the low ball into base hits
- Now take that swing / arm extension, but picture it hitting an inside pitch or high inside. This time connect with the intent to take off the shortstops head. Make sure you are not trying to hit a ground ball. Now if you are early, you will have room and it will go down the 3rd. If you are late, it will go up the middle. If you cut it right, it will go in the gap. If you cut it right and get enough of the ball - it will go over the fence.
Side note, do yourself a favor. When in a game (and winning isn't a concern), swing at the first high or inside pitch you see. Don't sit on that low outside pitch you always want. In the end, if you don't practice/do it in the game - it will never get better.
HTH
Considering how well the people who aren't me have been hitting on my team, I should have quite a few ABs where I can do that
Once you have that down, you will have 2 pitches you can look to hit.
Sometimes you also need to hit balls that are close enough. Pitchers do consider walking batters to get to the next batter. This often makes runners in scoring position stranded when they get to that batter. Hitting pitches that are balls are tough, but what I am saying is you need to also consider who is batting behind you.
Let us know how you do! Good luck.
When you do well, try to put that swing in you memory bank. Then you can start looking for that specific pitch from that exact pitcher.
Long swing. My favorite way to fix this tendency is to get on the tee, place the ball where an inside pitch would be, try to hit the ball up the middle. This forces your mechanics to tighten up and practices staying inside the ball by clearing your hips and hands. It feels awkward as hell, but it fucking works.
cool, I got a tee. I'll try it. Thanks
usually guys in softball that can only hit low and/or away pitches have a loopy swing. Watch the swing makeover series on youtube and switch to a softball swing that emphasizes oversnap. Your bat path should be at a slightly up angle to drive through the ball. There is an episode called the "perfect snap" that will get you used to what it's supposed to feel like.
Yea I am sure I have a long slow swing because I typically go middle of the field and opposite field so I can target the weaker fielders. But then when I get a pitcher who can hit their spots I just get jammed all night. Thanks for the tip
it actually took me a good while to correct this flaw because I didnt have anyone explaining it to me but once you "get it" you will start to be able to hit any ball in the zone and drive it. Good luck
I find that I roll over to the shortstop or pitcher when I stop pulling with conviction. I just try to hit the inside pitch, I roll over. If I try to really go with the pitch and pull it (down the line or through the five/six hole) I tend to get much better contact.
I drive the middle and outside pitch very well but I have trouble hitting the inside pitch consistently because my body likes to pull and over rotate which cause me to foul it off or just straight up miss it.
Try to think “hit the inside pitch up the middle” and it’ll stay on plane and pull to the left center gap instead of hooking foul or top-spinning down the line
Ok thanks. I tried it in practice and saw a difference big time
Lets go keep it up boss
Can't tell from this angle, so just check to make sure your swing path is in to out (I'm guessing it is). Also check your body isn't drifting towards to plate.
If so, then hitting the inside pitch is just timing for you. Hit it out in front of the plate (as opposed to about at the plate like with an outside pitch)
I think you need to be more direct to the inside pitch with a flatter swing plane. You're coming in a bit too uppercut-y, which leaves you a very tiny window to properly square up that pitch. Like others have said, you need to hit the pullside pitches out in front of the plate.
The new wave of attacking launch angle gives you a lot less room for error bc of the swing plane. I guess I'm old school bc I cringe when I see teacherman type swings and teachings. That swing works for power hitters who can sacrifice precision for attacking the air, you're better off keeping your swing as flat as possible, imo
Yea thank you I appreciate it. I always thought the teacherman stuff was eyewash and a gimmick. Playing at the college level now, I’ve seen guys who use teacherman teaching and get absolutely blown up during games. Never hitting consistently and being a bomb or strikeout or a big out
Agreed. The problem with those teachings is you can perfect that swing but you're doing it off of bp/soft toss/tee work etc. You're witnessing the downside with your teammates, throw in a pitcher that knows what he's doing and now they have no adjustability bc they've grooved a swing that hits one pitch for power.. the meatball down the middle.
If I was a pitcher and I saw a hitter with that teacher man uppercut, I'd blow him up with fastballs inside all day.
keep your front side closed longer and go get the inside pitch a little further in front of your body. throw your hands before you rotate pull side
my son is a lefty pull hitter. one thing he worked on for inside pitches, aside from getting ahead, was making sure his left shoulder stays closed at point of contact. looks like your left shoulder is opening up early in the swing. not sure if this helps.
Another remember. Mark Prior used to do a cool exercise where he worked on his whole delivery but primarily his release point. He would hold a medium sized towel in place of the ball and get to work on "whipping" the towel using his wrist snap. Yes, the kind of whip that you do to your friends in the locker room with a wet towel. That drill always stuck with me.
Ok I will try it tomorrow thanks!
Flat ground pitching is a good way to work on mechanics. Get your distance right, go through your full windup or stretch, work on your slide step, work on peeking at runners, varying your timing etc. and you don't need a mound...but you do still need someone to crouch.
Anytime I'm throwing with a pitcher even if they don't want to throw a pen I will make them throw me some pitches from the appropriate distance on flat ground just so they can ingrain that memory into their muscles.
You can work on arm strength using heavy balls.
Rockers.
Yes! There’s a whole lot of drills that are great for working on mechanics! From ten toes drill, walking wind ups, pivot picks, etc. there are great ways to teach the components of a high velocity delivery. I’d suggest looking at Tread Athletics YouTube, they have a whole host of videos on different drills tailored towards fixing different mechanical inefficiencies.
Looking for ways to feel shoulder hip seperztion and torque in baseball swing. Anything helps.
Pause drill. You are gonna use a tee, step towards the pitcher in your load, but pause. Count 1,2 and you should feel the backside tension wanting to release.
Are there any at home drills any of you do to improve timing? This weekend we are facing on of our leagues high velo pitchers so trying to prep for that...
One thing I do is I watch this battery of youtube videos on my 65 inch TV and act as if I'm in the batters box and practice loading early etc....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZYPZIwj2u0&list=PLRB-CrqC6mdSSpoiEh3vWvBGH69BVdamh
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Just curious if there is any other drill any of you do at home that you've found to improve timing vs fast pitching.
Had a timing issue at the beginning of my MSBL season. Added a leg kick to increase my power, which made me a great BP hitter (actual home run power, which I’ve never had) but an awful game hitter. Stuck with it the first 5 games. Went from a .423 hitter with .480 obp last year (no stride at all) to a .150 hitter with like 1 walk in 20 abs.
The leg kick clearly caused a timing issue and just made things too complicated for me (plus there were other issues like I was moving my head a lot and couldn’t pick up the ball well, etc etc). Worked my way back to where I took a small stride instead of no stride and finished the season really strong.
Recommendation would be simplify and shorten up. Drills might help a little, but you can throw it all away once you get in a game situation, especially against unusually high velo. Examine your approach after each game AB and you will figure it out.
Don’t psych yourself out. It’s just another fastball. If it’s a four seam it tends to not have any run on it. It’s the easiest pitch in baseball to hit. As for drills I would consider just trying to see more of the high velo stuff.
First things first... Can he throw his heat for a strike regularly? If he can, lay off anything not a fastball. Don't feel like you have to swing at it just because it's slower.
Also, gear up to hit pitches where the perceived velocity is lower.
So I should mention this is a 30+ adult league and this pitcher is an ex AAA guy... so I'm assuming the answer to the first question is a definite yes 🙂. Usually average fastball speed in our league is mid 70s... pretty sure this guy may be mid 80s....
Be conscious of starting your load/swing earlier in his delivery and if you notice you really are getting beat try setting your sights higher in regards to his release point.
One thing many young players don’t realize when facing good velo is that you don’t have to swing harder. Other than doing some high velo BP, nothing too different to prep.
When you face them, start your load a little earlier, look for a fat pitch to hit, then be short to it and stay through it.
If you’re struggling to catch up, try to focus on getting a low pitch to hit. Since pitches lower in the zone have to travel further, you’ll have a better chance to catch up to it.
Also, if the pitcher throws good off-speed stuff, I’d recommend guess hitting until you get 2 strikes. Guess Fastball or off speed based on what you see the pitcher throwing other hitters in various counts. If you get the other kind of pitch, lay off and get the next one.
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You are doing everything but throwing him pitches from the mound.
Stop all the drills...the open stance doesn't happen in a game drill, the hit a tire that doesnt exist in a game drill, the side toss that doesn't happen in the game drill, and take the bucket 45 ft away and have at it.
The less accurate you are (within reason) the better.
All skill development boils down to:
“Do the thing”
Live reps on a field if possible. Simulate a real at bat.
The problem with those drills is you groove a swing which is completely different for how a real at bat works.
Quality of the reps > quantity of reps
Say what you want about travel ball but the reason the kids are so much better than when I played was the see a ton of live action.
That's something we can try. I'll talk to some of the other dad's and see if they'd be down for having our own bp. As it is, this is a rec league, so the kids will only have like 2-3 practices all season anyways.
Honestly I went through this last year. The more reps he's getting the better from live pitching. It's the only way he'll start to connect his body movement with the swing and start to feel comfortable again. It took a bit for my son to feel that way, and then his first 7 at bats he got plunked....set us back a few weeks haha. But he's in there strong now and ready to give it a whack.
He just needs to see more live arm, it’s the only true fix. You can simulate the best you can in the cage by throwing live arm yourself and try to match speeds he sees in game. I’m 6’2 so I’ll sit in a chair behind an L screen at about 40 feet and throw to him.
Don’t get rid of the drill work he’s doing, just mix in some live arm in the cage and let him get more game reps. He will get there!
>40 feet and throw to him.
Maybe this is a good fix. We do from about 20' right now and then go to live pitch. We'll try mix in an in between round
All my catcher stuff is in the baseball locker room this is all I have access to
I was a catcher in college and without someone to actually train you; you need to watch and find videos of professional catchers throw downs and things like that and emulate what they do.. watch the videos in slow mo get into those same positions. first thing immediately noticeable is you need to have a shorter arm path; think about pulling a bow and arrow back? Good luck kid
100% agree. You are gonna hear things like, bring it up to your ear, looping arm path, 1 video is not enough to tell what you have right and wrong. Work on that pop time and think about where your throwing hand is when you receive
Thank you so much
Your arm path is wayyy too long. When you pop, you want your throwing arm to “pop” to behind your ear at the same time. You want to get the the top of your throwing motion as quickly as possible.
Thank you
Dropping your throwing hand too low after you grab the ball. Should be coming out of the glove, back to near your ear, and fire that ball straight from the ear. Eliminate that big swoop with your arm.
Came here to say exactly this. Ball right to the ear, can't afford that long a wind up
Thanks
Too long of windup, try to work on receiving the throw and bringing it up near the ear and explode forward using body weight
Ok 😊
Echoing what most people are saying, he’s clearly doing too much of a windup. The catch, pop, and throw all have to be a very fluid motion. It definitely takes a lot of time being comfortable behind the plate to get to. I would say try to have him practice catching the ball and then popping up with his hand already up and cocked. Then have him throw to second with one step, no wind up or hop. Hopefully doing that enough you can do it all together to get a fluid motion. I was also told once by a former (minor league) pro that throwing a football can be a good way to learn a more compact motion since you don’t normally wind up with that as much as baseball guys do.
At the end of the day, he’s still young and just needs to be confident he can make the throw to second easily. Make sure to do plenty lower body workouts to help with popup time and give him a solid base, but it’ll come with time and practice.
I’m a Pitcher only that’s starting to hit again and I’m trying to fix my swing
Swing looks pretty good overall. Not much coil/load with your lower half. I'd start there and make small adjustments based on what results you are getting in games
Best drills for hitting inside pitches
Key Considerations for Hitting Inside Pitches:
Bat Speed: Look for drills that focus on increasing bat speed. Faster swings can help you catch up to inside pitches.
Hand Positioning: Drills that emphasize proper hand positioning can help you adjust quickly to inside pitches.
Timing and Rhythm: Incorporate drills that improve your timing and rhythm to ensure you're ready to react to pitches thrown inside.
Contact Point: Focus on drills that help you identify and adjust your contact point for inside pitches, allowing for better control and power.
Strength Training: Consider strength training exercises that target your core and upper body, as these muscles are crucial for generating power when hitting.
Recommended Drills:
Tee Drills: Set up a batting tee and place the ball inside. Practice hitting the ball while focusing on keeping your hands inside the ball.
Soft Toss: Have a partner toss balls from the side, focusing on inside pitches. This helps with timing and hand-eye coordination.
Front Toss: Similar to soft toss, but the pitcher stands closer. This simulates the speed of an inside pitch more accurately.
One-Handed Drills: Practice hitting with one hand to improve wrist strength and bat control, which is crucial for handling inside pitches.
Live Pitching: If possible, face live pitching to practice hitting inside pitches in real-game scenarios.
Takeaway: Consistent practice with these drills will enhance your ability to hit inside pitches effectively. Focus on developing bat speed, timing, and proper technique to improve your performance at the plate.
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