I’m cooking on an 18 year old Weber Genesis. I recently replaced an igniter, fuel line, “flavorizors,” and grates to the tune of like $200? I’m expecting another decade out of this thing.

I have a weber spirit II and have zero complaints. Would recommend

I've had my Weber Genesis for 10 years. I keep it covered but otherwise treat it like shit - it's always outside year-round in 4-season weather and I never clean the box. It's given me zero problems other than having to swap the cast iron grates for stainless grates (but I would have done that anyway because the stainless is more durable).

It's a tank and I'd recommend it to anybody in the market.

At an entry point of <$1000 for something that'll last a decade or more it's a pretty sound investment. Replacement parts are readily available, too. I theoretically could just replace a few parts on my current grill and have her for another decade but I figure this one has had a good run already.

Napoleon

Cheapest 4 burner is going to fall apart in 3 years. It will have hot and cold spots, flare ups, and not be fun to cook with.

I'd rather get a used Wber/Napolean etc than settle for a "cheap" brand.

I love my Weber Spirit 310. Enough space to cook for several people, rotisserie a chicken or rib rack, easy to maintain and parts can all be replaced cheaply when / if they wear out. Awesome grill.

Also great accessories. I upgraded to stainless grates and flavorizor bars, got an electric rotisserie, and a carbon steel flat top griddle that covers the whole cooking area. Smashburgers, family breakfasts, pancakes… it can do everything.

I went down this road about 5 years ago. Everyone is going to recommend a Weber, but in the last 10-15 years all manufacturing went to China and they still rust, or that is what all my research showed. I ended up with the Napoleon brand, and I could not be happier. Stainless steel or cast iron, and most of them have a 10-year plus warranty. Actually just cleaned my 525 yesterday.

Spirit. 3 burner. Warranty is so worth it. Already on my second pair of grates and burners.

Napoleons are really good. I love mine.

Get a Weber Spirit with 3 burners. That should cover all your needs. I've had one for 12 years and it's a beast that just keeps on trucking.

I got a 3 burner spirit 2 10 years ago and it's still my daily driver. Can't go wrong with that but I have heard that the build quality has decreased in the last decade.

How big do you need? You and one other who don't often have guests or limited space on the balcony? A Spirit is the better choice. The Genesis is the next up, mid-size model and can support most. The Summit is the very large, premium model that can be had even as a built in.

All things considered, the Genesis with stainless grates would be my choice.

Weber

Yep, don't get a Weber. Spend some time researching outside of this sub.

I just got a Napoleon Rogue and love it so far. The box is way better quality than my previous weber and my charbroil. Lets see how long it lasts but it has 15 year warranty on it on all the parts.

Very happy with the Weber Genesis line. Mines been outside for three years with no cover and aside from the fact that it looks like I clearly need to clean it, no rust and functions the same as it did on day one.

I bought a Weber Genesis E-435 last year to replace my 7 year old and very heavily used $300 big-box store CharBroil. The Weber may have cost close to 5x what my first one cost but it is worth every single penny. I initially wanted to replace mine with a cheaper one, especially because I also have a variety of charcoal grills, a pellet grill, and a smoker... but I'm glad I didn't. Gas grills are just so convenient for weeknights. If you grill a lot, and if money allows for it, try to get a step or two up from the entry level ones at Home Depot.

All depends on your budget. Get the most expensive you can if you're keeping it outside, and keep a cover on it. Anything below $500 or so seems to be made out of cheap thun metal.

Spent the money on a Napoleon 6 years ago and the things a tank. Looks fantastic!

I was hoping to come in here and see the top comment be "Charcoal".

I'm into gas grills. My old grill started rusting, so I bought a new one last year. The technology is widely adapted and kinda universal. So specs matter. Burner metal thickness, body material and thickness, how the top pivots and if that'll hold up. Stainless steel is a remarkable upgrade.

I’ve got a Weber Spirit 3 burner, it’s awesome. I’ve had it 4 years so far and feels brand new still in how it performs. Just gotta take care of those cast iron grates and they’ll take care of you.

It’s been my only grill until last week when I got a Weber kettle to start dipping my toes cheaply into smoking and other low/slow cooking.

Napoleon Prestige! Will last a lifetime.

Propane is awesome for convenience. As well as any accessories.

-Hank Hill

Weber Genesis. Cost more but will last forever and if you ever need parts they are easy to come by.

Weber is probably the best mass market brand.

There are other brands significantly more expensive than Weber, however. Ducane for one. They rarely get discussed on reddit because people with real money aren't here.

Weber, Napoleon, or Broil King in the $500-2500 range. Many of these have 10-15 year warranties. Weber is widely available and you can often get good condition used ones for 1/3 of retail. Parts are available for decades.

The other brands sold in the big hardware stores do not last. Many of them look beautiful and come with accessories but they will rust out.

Team Napoleon

People post their Craigslist scores often. See what the most common one is. Nobody is going to brag about a piece of crap.

I’ve never owned one, but Weber is a name that seems to be known even by non-grilling folks. Dad has one and even though it’s one of the less expensive models it seems to be very well made.

From my personal experience, I’ve had good luck with both a Kenmore (first grill) and Char-Broil. Seems like most of them will last a good while if you take care of them, after that a lot of it is quality of material and features.

If I had a dollar for every time someone asked this, I could buy a Traeger… then realize it’s not gas and cry into my ribs. Go Weber Genesis or Napoleon Prestige and call it a day

I don't know what is "best", but I would just grab a Weber off of FBM, and spend the savings on meat.

You should check this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ConsumerAdvice/comments/1d9mn19/grills_reviews/

I just got a napoleon rogue 525 pro for like $1299 on sale. 4 burners, stainless steel, infrared burner etc. I was looking in the $1200 range so around that price don’t think anything else really beats it

Napoleon Prestige 500. Great grill with a infrared sear burner for awesome steaks.

https://www.bbq-authority.com/napoleon-phantom-prestige-500-rsib-gas-grill-2023-p/p500rsibk-3-phm.htm?1=458_1491&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=9655446383&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0LDBBhCnARIsAMpYlAqMV1StKdDHX7ZJocJwnIWyS_KL3C91z5ONWMZVxpLoSH2ETF5E77kaAm-zEALw_wcB

Weber kettle most definitely

I have a feeling that the Weber kettle is going to win this overwhelmingly.

Weber kettle is iconic for a reason

Blackstone is not a grill

Weber Kettle hands down.

The true grillers grill. Nothing but charcoal and skill.

I think that it is a good choice since Napoleon is a well-known brand as well when it comes to grills. I think that Weber is also a brand that you should consider, I had mine for several years now and I really love it. Here's where you can buy Weber in Canada if you're interested in checking out some of the models that Weber is currently selling.

I hope you don't receive too much flack here for cooking w gas. People get really bend out of shape about choices that don't impact them made by people they will never met in circumstances they have zero insight into.

I don't know a damn thing about gas's grills, but if you go for charcoal, Weber has served me well for 6 years of grilling/smoking.

I was looking at the Rogue and Prestige range. After deciding I wanted a 4-burner, with sear station, and rotisserie, I was down to the Rogue SE 525 RSIB and the Prestige 500 RSIB. At the time, the Prestige was about $200 more, but it came with the rotisserie kit (Around $125), a better build quality in my opinion, and the lifetime warranty (instead of 15 years).

All that said, I love it. Let me know if you have specific questions

Although many here will have knowledge and advice about gas grills r/grilling will have far more insight than r/bbq.

Bbq uses charcoal/wood not gas.

I bought a completely stainless Kirkland signature grill from Costco, if anything goes wrong with it you can just return it.

Had it for 4 or 5 years left it out one winter. Works good no cracked burners.

Napoleon Prestige Pro 500.

If you want one that will last: get a Weber