I ride 56mm Powell G Slides. They slide better than Dragons and roll smoother. I have both. They probably wear faster and flat spot easier as well but I enjoy them enough to replace a little earlier. If you want long lasting all around good go Dragons. If a smooth ride and icy slide is your goal and you like 56mm its G Slides and I don’t think it close at all. The ONLY issue I can see is they slide so well and so silently you will probably slide more and eventually flat spot and blame the person who suggested them. I give you that disclaimer. In theory Dragons probably last longer

Been skating the dragons for a month now and I absolutely love them. I’d say get m if you can they’re amazing!

Thanks for sharing this! Forgot about the G Slides, I'd been recommended those before. All these hybrid wheels seem to be quality, just about the fine margins of preference, as you say.

If you have a nice skate park with lots of transition near you, I highly recommend trying the 92a chrome/cored clouds (same thing apart from metallic vs matte finish on the plastic cores), cause they keep speed like a rock hard wheel. Fun to use on ramps and in bowls for the mix of a smooth and grippier ride without the sluggish feeling that normally comes with softer wheels. They can still slide but they're on the grippier side. I find them to be as fast as my bones STFs, they're probably faster. I suspect this is due to the big plastic core.

Currently the mini logo 90a 56mm is next up for me to try, then the g slides, then the dragons (which would be first priority if they were out long enough to already be on discount sales!)

Nice to see somebody else who's enjoying hybrids at the minute! Happy skating!!!

I have Atom Poisons and like them a lot!

I had the same question and went with Rivas; they are somewhat similar to Fundaes and cheap. However, if you are just starting out, I’d get something more on the outdoor side (slightly bigger like 60mm and softer, maybe a durometer in the high eighties) since they’re easier to learn on and can still be used at the park. You really only need the smaller wheels if you’re going to be grinding (from what I understand), and once you get to that point you might be ready to make other upgrades too. Small wheels are slower and get caught on dumb little cracks and stuff :(

This doesn’t look to bad. Maybe change the bushings and bearing if needed and your good to go.

I had a landyachts dingy cruiser for quite some time and loved it. But it pissed me off that I had no real nose and often fucked up ollies up a curb because I was so used to having a nose on my other board. Then I bought a normal 8.5 deck and replaced it. It’s super nice but hard to throw some tricks.

A few months ago I bought a pair of dragons 93a for my normal skateboard and since then I never really touched my cruiser again. It’s not the same but it’s so nice to being able to powerslide and have fun while cruising with what I’m used to.

If you don’t skate perfect smooth skateparks all the time I would get a kinda standard setup with some bigger dragon wheels. Maybe even the 88a version. It’s the perfect combination of both worlds.

And if you go somewhere super crusty you can still take the cruiser you already have.

I've been riding a 8in Arbor deck that has a bamboo top ply. It's still poppy after almost 10 years which I can only assume is because of that bamboo. Trucks are Aces as they're carvy but not weirdly so. Wheels are 62mm 90a Hawgs. Bearings are Swiss because disposable income.

I love this setup and would recreate it instantly if my board disappeared. Maybe with Ace hollows.

Damn, can you ride / do tricks fine without risers? I also ride indys and I recently got 1/8 risers when I stepped up to softer 56mm for my hybrid board and I really don't like how high it is now. It looks like I'd have enough clearance while turning without risers, but with that setup even my hard 53mm left marks on the deck. Never actually felt anything tough, so I'm still on the fence. I honestly should be fine with how high indys are but I don't know how to find out if I'll get wheelbite in extreme cases without eating shit at least once.

i mean, there are literal ''hybrid'' decks build for exactly this.

https://www.arborcollective.eu/collections/shakedown-series?srsltid=AfmBOooxuR4yr_BD7T2QvrN8Z843fWG-Cp8_3yGH9k-REg5I9xZ5CRaK&shpxid=404507d5-5cbd-4bea-b785-479110c115b4

have a look at these for example. those are basically small cruiser decks, that also have raised tail and nose and concave like regular streetdecks so you can do stuff in skateparks, ride pools, do some flips and whatnot.

I took my 8.5 DHC deck and put wheels from a penny board on.. Jesus that thing goes insanely fast. Abec 9 they use I think

Roll line Helium! 83A makes it good for all surfaces, hard plastic hub makes it fast, and they're not very thick so they're also quite maneuverable. I absolutely love them and use them for all of my outdoor needs.

Luminous are also surprisingly good for what they are and I use them often indoors too.

I mean, the Poisons are what I use for outdoors. What are you trying to do with them that Poisons won't do?

Are you trying to learn dance stuff and/or do fun skating on your derby skates or have you switched to a heeled boot?

Haha that’s what I’m wondering as well. Like does radar villains have any noticeable difference compared to the poisons 

Radar energy and grindstone smokeshow! It used to be Moxi fundae, but i found the shape of the wheel to be a bit too round for my liking at the skatepark.

My personal favorite are the Ricta Clouds 92A. They still feel soft enough to almost be 'cruisery', but you can still skate them like any other wheel when you want. I think any of the Clouds are great urethane, though, so the 78a you'd definitely be rolling smooth! The 80's would be a great compromise as well.

The new Spitfire 93a are pretty good as well, but definitely feel much harder than the Ricta 92a.

Also, I'm from Worcester, so I know exactly the type of pavement you're on :D It sucks almost always lol

Bigfoot wheels are super soft, and they're small, super fast for cruising, small enough for tricks. They might catch when doing a grind, though. I dont see them mentioned on this sub ever, and their about 20$ on amazon.

I had 86A ricta clouds and they were great to cruise but they were pretty bad for anything else if you want a hybrid get the 92A version or powel peralta dragons

Good for just cruising

Dragons are the answer here, or the new 93a spitfires but never ridden those. Rictas dont really slide, but the 78a are an awesome cruiser wheel.

How much for the brr jay dos and where are you shipping from?

Haven’t received any updates from this guy after sending him money and he said he was shipping 3 separate times. Heads up yall.

How much for slide 1

How much for the black river ledge and the painted curb shipped?

I'd down to take the whole box of wheels and bushings I've been look for a bulk buy it that's possible to do

54mm dragons are a good wheel for both crusty streets and smooth parks.

52mm 99a will definitely make you think twice before putting down your board on crusty streets. I will say though, that it's really hard to find a compromise between skateability and ride comfort. The best you can get right now are the Powell Dragon Formulas. They are 93a, but still slide better than some of the sticky 99a's in the market. They are obviously more sticky than something like spitfires, but it is very controllable and predictable once you get used to it.

The difficult part is how big you want to go. I think 55~56mm is where it starts getting really smooth and fast, and you won't even have to worry about manhole covers. But as the wheels get bigger, they also make the board heavier. I think it's up to you to try out stuff and find out if it is something you can handle, or if you want to just stick to the goldilocks 'skateboard setup' and deal with the crust a bit.

Lol my complete was from primitive and they were the exact wheels. I replaced them with 78A 54MM Ricta Clouds. They work great with rougher streets. Also switched the bearings to bones reds big balls

Mini Logo make a 90a in 55mm and a 95a in 54mm which might fit the bill on a budget.

Dragons are versatile 🐉

I've got some Acid Chemical Co Pods 86a 55mm on the way for the same purpose. I'll try to remember to report back once they arrive and I give them a shot. I'd like to hear what you thought of the clouds. My local shop has some chrome clouds in all 3 duros in 54mm so I've got some easily accessible options in case the pods turn out too much on the cruisery side.

Ricta Clouds 92A. Best urethane out there I feel. And these are perfect for nice smooth ride, while still killing it at the park. (I bomb hills, use skateboard as my main transportation, but also hit the parks and street trying to get better at tech.)

New OJ urethane is really good as well, they have some 97A.

The mini logo 90a hybrids are good, especially for the price, usually under $20

I have never tried RC's but have only heard good things. I have a pair of G-slides that I enjoy, 56mm 86a. I have also heard good things about OJ's and Rough Riders.