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Best Linux Distros for Privacy

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  • For maximum privacy: Tails, Qubes OS, Whonix
  • For daily use with privacy considerations: Debian, Fedora, Arch, Linux Mint

Privacy-Focused Distros

For those seeking the highest level of privacy, distros like Tails, Qubes OS, and Whonix are often recommended. Tails is known for its amnesiac properties, leaving no traces after reboot [3:2], while Qubes OS offers strong security through virtualization [3:5]. Whonix focuses on anonymity by routing all internet traffic through Tor [4:1].

Daily Driver Options

If you need a balance between privacy and usability for everyday tasks, Debian, Fedora, Arch, and Linux Mint are good choices. These distributions generally avoid telemetry and offer robust privacy features without compromising on usability [2:2][5:1]. Debian and Fedora support full disk encryption out-of-the-box, providing an additional layer of security [2:3].

Ubuntu's Privacy Concerns

While Ubuntu is popular for its ease of use, it has faced criticism for privacy-related issues in the past, such as integrating Amazon search results [3:4][5:3]. However, Ubuntu's telemetry is opt-in, meaning users can choose whether to enable it during installation [5:1]. If privacy is a significant concern, other distros may be preferable.

Alternative Recommendations

Void Linux is mentioned as a distro with minimal logging, lacking even a syslog by default [5:5]. NixOS offers a unique approach with a declarative system configuration, which can enhance security by limiting changes to the system [1:3]. Parrot OS is another option that comes hardened by default, suitable for those who want a secure setup without extensive customization [1:7].

Considerations Beyond the Discussions

It's important to note that privacy isn't solely dependent on the operating system. User behavior, choice of applications, and web browsing habits play crucial roles in maintaining privacy. Implementing additional measures like using privacy-focused browsers, VPNs, and encrypted communication tools can further enhance your privacy regardless of the chosen Linux distribution.

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POST SUMMARY • [1]

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Privacy oriented Linux distro for headless server use?

Posted by Alex_Wells · in r/privacy · 22 days ago
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Hey. I recently bought a mini PC that I plan to turn into a home server. I'll be running as much as possible in Docker containers (or some alternative of Docker), but I'm not sure if that's gonna work for everything.

I like my privacy - so naturally I want to use LUKS (without the need to connect a keyboard & monitor to enter the passphrase) and want to get a Linux distro that is as private and as secure as possible. I can get around Linux, but I definitely don't have enough knowledge myself to be certain I didn't miss something or mess something up.

Hence, I'd like something that is more or less set up correctly out-of-the-box; something that (sensibly) forbids everything unless I explicitly allow it. I've found mentions of Qubes and Spectrum OS, but it seems that both of them are not designed for server use.

For example, in case of Qubes, being able to type in LUKS passphrase remotely means setting up Dropbear in dom0, and giving dom0 access to the network interfaces, which is advised against. And even though the server will only be accessible from the local network, I still find it weird that you have to make significant security compromises in order to get another security perk (that is - LUKS).

What would be the recommendations for my case?

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ltstrom · 22 days ago

So for distro, it is really a take your pick all of them are privacy focused, you will need to do the legwork in all cases.

So from the top, decide how you want to package manage. Since it is a server Ubuntu headless or Debian headless are my go to. But you can also do RPM systems like alma, rocky etc to have parity with enterprise.

Since you want to do Luks encryption you don't need to use a keyboard and mouse to decrypt on boot. This can be done via key file. Here is a guide how to set one up and have it run on boot to decrypt the server (you can store the file on a USB to do decryption if you want, so said USB needs to be connected at boot. But if not there LUKs can't open).

https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-use-a-file-as-a-luks-device-key

The next question is at what layer do you want to do encryption as it can be done on the LVM layer rather than partition layer. So if you are planning on using LVMs and multiple physical volumes this gives more security as the encrypted LVM is on multiple drives.

Then the question about SE-Linux policies and setup you want and ACLs etc for storing files and Configs outside the docker containers etc.

Hope that helps.

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Alex_Wells · OP · 21 days ago

GPT also suggested Fedora. Should I consider it over Ubuntu/Debian?

> This can be done via key file

I saw this option, but I'd like to 1) be able to do so remotely; 2) not have the passphrase/key stored anywhere except my brain :)

> The next question is at what layer do you want to do encryption as it can be done on the LVM layer rather than partition layer. 

I don't know yet. Using encryption on the LVM layer means it can be mounted/unlocked after system boots? But I doubt that gives me much of an advantage over something like Dropbear in initramfs.

> Then the question about SE-Linux policies and setup you want and ACLs etc for storing files and Configs outside the docker containers etc.

SELinux confused me most. Ubuntu/Debian ship with AppArmor, which seems to be easier to get around with my limited skill set. Should I also be using SELinux? Or ditch AppArmor and only use SELinux?

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ltstrom · 21 days ago

You can fedora is the upstream / active Dev version of redhat. Alma and rocky are the alternatives to CentOS which was discontinued but is downstream from redhat.

If you want to do this remotely then the only other thing I can suggest is using an ILO device in your server. That way you can access the console like keyboard and mouse + monitor but via the ILO interface which has a username and password you can set. I would suggest also setting up a VPN server on the environment to get into the LAN to access the ILO.

It depends you can have all your sysroot directories linked to LVMs, that is the default setup in most distros if you decide to use LVMs for filesystems.

SE-Linux is complex and really powerful. You can use App armour it does work in a similar way but that really depends on how high you want your security. SE-Linux with the right policies can block root from functions unless allowed via very specific exceptions.

Such as root can only edit /etc files if logged in via tty0 (console access).

So there isn't a bad tool or answer, it just depends what you want to do.

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Logical_Zebra_8131 · 21 days ago

If you’d be opening to considering something less standard you could try NixOS. From what I understand it’s just barebones Linux with the only extras being the stuff it needs to make Nix work. From there you’d edit your system config from a file (/etc/nixos/configuration.nix), which is write-protected except under sudo. After that nothing can change unless you edit the file again.

I run it on a mini PC for various remote access/syncthing/task offloading needs.

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Alex_Wells · OP · 21 days ago

Thanks. I actually saw it in a video once. Coming from a programming background, I really like the declarative approach. I'll take a deeper look, it sounds pretty good :)

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Matrix-Hacker-1337 · 19 days ago

There is really only like two "distros" that aren't as privacy focused as the rest and thats Pop!OS and Ubuntu.

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Alex_Wells · OP · 19 days ago

Got it. I liked the idea of virtualizarion from Qubes though (for security), and them providing a clear guide on what privacy & security practices are advisable. Thanks

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Matrix-Hacker-1337 · 19 days ago

A bit overkill for "regular joe", but if youre note regular joe, it will be a fun project!

If you want a "regular distro" that is hardened by default try Parrot OS.

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Best OS for privacy.

Posted by ThickClient6146 · in r/privacy · 1 year ago

Evening all. I’m looking for an OS to install on my laptop that takes uses privacy seriously. I’m not up to any shady stuff so hiding isn’t the main issue. No government or law enforcement agencies are after me, nothing like that. I just want a laptop that isn’t being data mined by google/facebook/amazon etc I don’t need much in the way of programs like office just basic web, email etc. what would you folks suggest and why? Also any suggestions on software programs would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks.

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RegularSituation8923 · 1 year ago

If you just want corpofree OS that is private but you  not need a whistleblower level of protection than don't go to hardcore opsec Linux distros like tails. It will just make you crazy.  Depending on your level of expertise go with Debian/Arch or any Debian derivatives. There are free from snooping but still reasonable for daily use.

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Ok-Scientist-4165 · 1 year ago

Ubuntu is fine as a daily. Qubes and Tails are overkill, and a lot of other distros don’t have the same support as ubuntu

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l1v38r41n · 1 year ago

Perhaps Debian/fedora as it supports out of the box full disk encryption if the device is stolen/lost. Ubuntu didn’t support that till recently and also Ubuntu has some out of the box trackers integrated which could be missed while configuring OS

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px403 · 1 year ago

Ubuntu has had full disk encryption support since 2006 or so. Pretty sure it was the first Linux distro to support it as part of the standard install. I was doing all that manually in 2004 on Gentoo, which sucked. It was also basically the first distro that, out of the box, supported things like package signing, hardened kernels, hardened compiler toolchains, etc. Ubuntu got a lot of shit for making things ridiculously easy on users, but their security/privacy defaults have always been way above and beyond most other distros.

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hmmhhhhmmmmh · 1 year ago

Arch n gentoo r the best

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ThickClient6146 · OP · 1 year ago

So basically any Linux distribution will be fine for me as I am not a criminal or whistleblower. Thank you everyone for your suggestions. Guess I’ll have to have a look for a general purpose Linux distro then that doesn’t got too extreme like qubes or tails.

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RedditIsSuperCancer · 1 year ago

Yeah but some of the reccomendations here are laughable, virtually none of these distros are good for beginners and may turn you off to the system. Here are some of the better ones for being new user friendly/ friendly in general that also are great if you're concerned for privacy:

  1. Pop OS
  2. Linux mint
  3. OpenSUSE Tumbleweed (my choice)
  4. Nobara (based on Fedora)
  5. Fedora

For pure ease of use the top two are the best bet. My personal reccomendation is openSUSE because it is both rolling release and more stable then any of the others I've listed which has always impressed me. Though it has a few features which may confuse you at first like the backup system (which is also top of it's class).

Fedora is a great choice that's close to the windows experience, and Nobara is a fork of that for gaming if you ever want to do that.

Absolutely do not install arch, or anything arch based or half these people's reccomendations. No disrespect but Linux users have a way of reccomending distros that they're comfy with and have used for a long time while completely forgetting that a new user will be completely lost. Installing arch as a new user is an insanely bad idea. The fact people are rexcomending it to someone who didn't even know about Linux before this reddit post is proof of what I'm saying lol.

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Fantastic-Focus-513 · 1 year ago

Debian is nice

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CreepyZookeepergame4 · 1 year ago

Too out-of-date packages for desktop use (old packages -> less security -> less privacy). Arch is preferable, but Fedora is similarly modern without much effort.

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Stilgar314 · 1 year ago

They had a search box that included Amazon results of the things you searched for. The backslash was so heavy that it lasted a week. Since then, they have an opt in usage info thing, that basically includes what hardware you are using and which packages did you installed. Also, in the event of an error you're prompted with the possibility of sending it to Canonical for bug tracking purposes. If you select "No" in the first bootup and in the first error happening "No, and don't ask me again", no info is sent to Canonical.

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joesephsmom · 1 year ago

Any Linux distro lol. Don't install qubes as a daily.

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ThatPrivacyShow · 1 year ago

There isn't really a "Best OS" as a great deal of opsec/oppriv depends on your own behaviour rather than the technology you are using and pretty much all OS have holes - not to mention zero days.

If you want to go hardcore you could try Cubes OS but as i said - if your own privacy and security hygiene are not good, the OS won't protect you.

You also need to consider practicality issues - the more restricted you go the more convenience and usability you lose - sadly, although a strong privacy/security stance should not be negative sum, it currently is. So you need to be honest with yourself about what you need to do in your OS what tools you need to use for your day to day tasks etc. Then pick the OS based on the tradeoffs you are willing to make.

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Best Linux Distro for privacy (no whonix)

Posted by Small_Light_9964 · in r/privacy · 4 years ago

What is the best linux distro for privacy?
i already use win on my main pc but for a laptop i would like to install and configure a privacy respecting os

i guess ubuntu is a good choice

but is there any better?

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thanks for answer

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ADevInTraining · 4 years ago

Great question! Noob questions are welcome.

Generally, an OS ran on a USB thumb drive are amnesiac. Meaning, no traces are left behind once you reboot or remove the usb drive from the machine.

From what I have been seeing, it usually is set up where you will have an amnesiac OS on a portion of the USB, and the rest will be a Veracrypt vault where you can save/retrieve files from the amnesiac OS.

Tails is such a goto one since it is actually a read only OS. My personal issue with tails is that you cant run a VPN client on tails. So, it would be wise to have a VPN on a router that your client connects to. Just be wary of which one you choose and that you can pay for the VPN with cash/crypto and it isn't located in a 5/14 eyes country and it doesn't keep any logs.

also, as a side note, you should check out Intel ME and AMD PSP. If you do a search on this forum, and even look for posts/comments from me about this you'll have your mind blown. To get around this, checkout coreboot based firewall devices such as u/protectli or actual machines. I have read that NVIDIA and INTEL have made it difficult to get full dual boot (for having both windows AND Linux) installed and running on the same machine when running Linux. So, look into that and maybe stick to something made with only AMD if you buy a laptop with coreboot for Linux.

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ADevInTraining · 4 years ago

Maybe Manjaro, Linux Mint, Elementary, Pop OS, xubuntu

Check all those out first to ensure they don't sell their users data

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[deleted] · 4 years ago

If you're feeling adventurous, you can try the free version of Debian. But every distro will be better than windows or mac. Maybe avoid stock ubuntu tho. They've done some shady stuff in the past like selling data to amazon etc.

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ADevInTraining · 4 years ago

I did not know this. I use stock ubuntu. Fun shiz.

Looks like I am installing a new OS tonight

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[deleted] · 4 years ago

You can read this for more info.

Also, if you're going to use debian don't use the "stable" version of debian.That is meant to run on servers and stuff. Use the "testing" version of debian. If your PC uses hardware that uses proprietary software you will have to use the non-free version of debian, these devices are usually WIFI cards and NVIDIA GPUs.

The debian site is really confusing to navigate, I'm literally holding your hand with these links.

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suncontrolspecies · 4 years ago

Canonical didn't sent data to Amazon. They just added a shortcut on their dash. Please. There is no need to missinform other people. At the end just like any other project/business, they need money to pay developers. That's all.

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Digital-Chupacabra · 4 years ago

QubesOS, it's not the most user friendly distro but it's probably the best option.

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sicktothebone · 4 years ago

Linuxmint or Pop_OS

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ADevInTraining · 4 years ago

It depends on threat model.

Ultimate nuclear option is a thumb drive install of Tails.

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[deleted] · 4 years ago

Ubuntu is a classic.

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yummy_crap_brick · 4 years ago

Oh yeah, Qubes is NOT a good place to start. You gotta work your way up to that shit. Linux Mint is very friendly for a reformed Windows user, the interface is very similar.

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falseplateau_7516 · 4 years ago

Literally any Linux distro is better than Windows 10 or Mac OS. Except maybe RedStarOS. Any distro that claims to be privacy-respecting is only maximizing what any Linux machine can do. With Linux, you can customize literally anything, if you're willing to learn about the system.

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Which linux distro is good for privacy

Posted by Based_Schiz0 · in r/linux4noobs · 2 months ago

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pintubesi · 2 months ago

Selecting the proper web browser and be cautious what website you’re visiting is more important to protect your privacy than the OS selection

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kompetenzkompensator · 2 months ago

Sounds like you want tails, whonix or qubes. Maybe at your level of paranoia run whonix on qubes.

https://tails.net

https://www.whonix.org

https://www.qubes-os.org

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AgainstScumAndRats · 2 months ago

"maybe at your level of paranoia" LMAO. Good one.

My advice would be to forego technology altogether, live off the grid, buy one way ticket to Cambodian country side, there you will be truly private.

Also OP, don't forget to lock that hard disk, we both know there are unspeakable things on there that both the government and your parents wouldn't want to know about.

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Based_Schiz0 · OP · 2 months ago

Thank you

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_Tiizz · 2 months ago

you might want to check out qubesOS then. I never used it gut i once saw a video about it but uts a long time ago. As far as i know they try to be very swcurity oriented.

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socomseal93 · 2 months ago

You basically just described Tails OS

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braxtonbarrr · 2 months ago

The only thing hard about privacy is if you aren’t 100% committed, you’re 0% committed. Best of luck.

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Best Daily Driver Linux Distro For Privacy (and usability)?

Posted by awkerd · in r/linuxquestions · 1 year ago

Not looking for something like tails or whonix. I want a distro with no telemetry, and limited logging, while also being usable as a daily driver. Is ubuntu good enough?

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6tBF4Cg4qqAAZA · 1 year ago

Ubuntu, Fedora, Mint, etc. are indeed good enough by default. If you want more privacy, you can always add portmaster.

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itouchdennis · 1 year ago

Ubuntu is not the privacy you want to pick. Its more like I don‘t know - debian, fedora, arch, mint, nearly everyone, but not ubuntu

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awkerd · OP · 1 year ago

Why not Ubuntu?

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itouchdennis · 1 year ago

They did historical not the best decisions. Also collecting some meta data. Privacy policy is better than windows and clearer but not the best imho. You could google and make your own image of ubuntus privacy

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anh0516 · 1 year ago

Void. Void doesn't even have a syslog by default and it must be explicitly installed and enabled.

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The large majority of distros do not have any telemetry OOTB.

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CipherSechs · 1 year ago

Arch. Arch install from the CLI. Install what you really need.

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tomscharbach · 1 year ago

u/itouchdennis: Ubuntu is not the privacy you want to pick. Its more like I don‘t know - debian, fedora, arch, mint, nearly everyone, but not ubuntu.

Ubuntu uses telemetry for updating packages, but otherwide Ubuntu's telemetry is "opt in", that is, you have to enable telemetry during installation. Ubuntu's extensive privacy policy describes data collected under various conditions (telemetry and otherwise) and the uses to which that data is put.

u/itouchdennis: Privacy policy is better than windows and clearer but not the best imho.

A quick summary of the key reasons you believe that Debian, Fedora, Mint (and perhaps Arch and openSUSE although you did not specifically mention those distributions) privacy policies are better than Ubuntu's would be helpful.

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Privacy focused Linux distros?

Posted by Cold_Theme7541 · in r/privacy · 1 year ago

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PartlyProfessional · 1 year ago

Are you sure that you are looking for “privacy” or more of anonymity? Or for security?

If you are looking for only privacy then you probably should use any distro that you like then opt out of their automated data collection. What remains is your part, you should not expect any distro to guard you from being identified when you use chrome while googling a product, that would expose you unless you use a lot of stuff to anonymize yourself.

A simple thing to do to avoid being exposed is to use librewolf and containerize search sessions.

That’s for only browsing, next, if you install any proprietary software like zoom, that would also expose you, but you can’t really avoid using zoom when your company is enforcing it.

There are a lot of other stuff but I think browsing would be 99+% of what would allow them to identify you.

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Cold_Theme7541 · OP · 1 year ago

Oh your right, I guess anonymity, my actual distro I use is Nobara on my PC and Zorin on my laptop with brave as my browser and everything telemetry wise turned off

I'm more just curious if there are any distros that are already set up to protect the user from spying etc

Like my goal is purely to play around and learn, not actually to use a super anonymized OS, that sounds painfully slow and limited

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PartlyProfessional · 1 year ago

Some people advocate using super anonymous stuff without good understanding which actually backfires as very few people use their special method and would lead to them being identified.

Anonymizing is a hard subject after the degree you have reached ( linux plus a privacy enhanced browser ), anymore than that would force you to have deeper understanding on what happens under the hood and the common problems people faces while trying to maintain privacy, such as how the great Chinese wall blocks most vpn, and how some of them suddenly works for a limited period. Or what is manifest V3 and why it is a bad idea. I think those are some fun subjects that I think would benefit you.

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petalised · 1 year ago

You confuse privacy with security. Pretty much any Linux distro is privacy respecting. Just don't enably telemetry and install proprietary apps.

Stuff like Tails and Whonix is for anonymity and security, not just privacy.

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CortaCircuit · 1 year ago

What is your actual concern? Privacy is too general.

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Cold_Theme7541 · OP · 1 year ago

No real concern/specific goal in terms of privacy, I'm more just wanting to test out different "privacy focused" operating systems just to play around with them

From anything that claims privacy focused to extreme run everything through tor

Dispite what that other redditor was crying about in the comments, I've only found tails when looking into it (I'm fairly new to privacy and even Linux in general)

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derdestroyer2004 · 1 year ago

Try qubes. It’s more about security than privacy but i think you’ll like using it.

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gomez5757 · 1 year ago

Whonix

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Cold_Theme7541 · OP · 1 year ago

Interesting, I'll have to check it out

Looks very similar to tails, I'm assuming it's the same sort of deal?

Thanks for the suggestion though, everytime I try to look into privacy distros the only thing that I can find is tails

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gomez5757 · 1 year ago

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Comparison_with_Others

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Th3PrivacyLife · 1 year ago

Whonix is recommended to be run in a VM. Not very condusive to daily driving.

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nb3145 · 1 year ago

Qubes, Tails, Whonix.

I've been using Qubes for a while and love it

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What is the best operating system to avoid data collection and have as much privacy as possible?

Posted by challenger_official · in r/privacy · 8 months ago

What about Linux?

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zxuvw · 8 months ago

Any standard linux distribution like Debian, Fedora or Arch is much much better than windows/Mac. If you're paranoid, you can go with Tails or Qubes OS although its much difficult to daily drive these.

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JustClickingAround · 8 months ago

As others have mentioned, a lot is behavior. As far as the OS, you have to weigh what you need an OS for with your goal to avoid data collection / privacy. Security & privacy are usually at odds with convenience.

Tails would give you the most privacy and least data collection but for that to be true, your behavior is very important and it wouldn't really work if you need an OS for banking, accounts that tie to your life, etc.

A balance might be something like a minimal Linux installation and running open snitch. Maybe Debian, because they are slow releases, well vetted, etc. Not a ton of cruft but all that you need for "most" things. Try to use what's already installed, don't install what you don't need.

Open snitch will alert you to all connection attempts. It is annoying, but if you take the time to set it up, it's worth it. You can disable it when needed.

Have two browsers, one for everyday use, which will mean the settings will have to be such that it works with your bank, etc and one when you want less tracking that is locked down.

You could then have Tails on a USB and use that if you wanted more anonymity, for whatever reason.

I'd suggest you make a text file with what your goals are and save it to your desktop. When you think about doing something, read it over to keep your goals in mind. It's impossible to do everything and have extreme privacy, security, anonymity, etc.

For me, I just do not like all of the collection data and aggregation by companies. They all seem to have pulled the curtain back and taken the gloves off. I can't hardly blame them as people just don't seem to care. So, I do what I can within reason and try not to contribute to the machine.

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Romdeau4 · 8 months ago

The most private? Probably Qubes OS if you’re reeeeally concerned, but I’d say any mainstream Linux distribution would be just fine for most regular users concerned about privacy.

In order of personal preference for the easiest “out of the box” experience: Fedora, Linux Mint, Ubuntu

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jawsofthearmy · 8 months ago

Scratch Ubuntu. They have been doing some “shady” shit

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/s/JyQkvOxzGH

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Dr_Backpropagation · 8 months ago

I don't think there's any privacy concern as such with Ubuntu as well. Sure snaps are hotly debated vs flatpaks but all in all, for newcomers, I'd say Ubuntu is a fine choice. They don't need to know what the underlying technology is that is powering their apps as long as everything's easy to install and setup.

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shifter0909 · 8 months ago

You can replace snaps with flatpaks and they don’t have that amazon thing anymore and you can opt out of telemetry easily. However, ubuntu has good hardware support, is a lot less glitchy, doesn’t look ugly or from the 90s and can be a daily driver

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AbyssalRedemption · 8 months ago

Yeah, when I was initially looking into which distro would be my first, I stumbled upon some bad feedback about Ubuntu. Tbh it's doing its own thing the Debian world anyway, and I'm not a fan of a lot of it. Ended up picking between Arch and Debian at the end, and I went with base Debian (been a wonderful experience so far, I might add).

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natguy2016 · 8 months ago

I use Linux Mint Debian Edition. Debian base with Cinnamon DE. Rock solid and I can use Flatpaks to install newer software. LMDE is set and forget.

Canonical’s behavior and security sketchiness makes me wonder how long it will take for any concerning behaviors to filter down to Ubuntu based distros.

Another distro that I like is Sparkly Linux. It has Debian Stable versions AND Debian 13 Testing versions. The latter has current kernel and very up to date software.

Sparky has KDE, Mate, XFCE, and LXQT full versions.

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Bruceshadow · 8 months ago

easiest “out of the box” experience: Fedora

hah! I wouldn't put Fedora on the list of 'easy' compared to others

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Romdeau4 · 8 months ago

Really? I've never had an issue with Fedora. It was a daily driver of mine for years and every PC I had was just "install and go". Last year I switched over to OpenSUSE in favor of a rolling release, but I still tend to recommend Fedora or Linux Mint to people looking for something that just works.

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Left-Excitement-836 · 8 months ago

You can also set up persistent storage in case you need to save something on a Tails USB

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Connect-Web-2107 · 8 months ago

I think Tails like Qubes is over kill for most people

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Best privacy distribution.

Posted by ShaDoWVoiX · in r/linuxquestions · 6 years ago

What is the best privacy and safety distro?

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ShaDoWVoiX · OP · 6 years ago

What about qubes os or parrot os with anonimity options?

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stay-frosted-flakes · 6 years ago

I have not used parrot but Qubes is pretty great for privacy. It’s a more difficult than normal distro to use since you are managing multiple virtualized distorts within it, but it has amazing privacy potential, even better than Tails. Tails is great to have as a bootable flash drive, but for a persistent desktop OS Qubes is the better privacy option.

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smog_alado · 6 years ago

What do you have in mind when you mean "safety and privacy"?

Most regular Linux distros already score very high on this list. Linux's software distribution model and system architecture is safer than Windows in many ways. For privacy, Linux does not come bundled with trackers, ads, or intrusive apps (like Candy Crush or Cortana).

Beyond this there are some distros that go even further, such as Tails. They do things like pipe the internet access through TOR and things like that. However, these are not really ideal for day to day usage, and I would not indicate them fot the average user

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Lexxxapr00 · 6 years ago

Tails OS

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

I second this, Tails OS is built around privacy and anonymity.

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houghi · 6 years ago

All that don't use Chromium or the Google DNS.

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

I used 44 Linux distro's in my 15 years. I always felt safe and secured. Currently using MX and still feel the same, safe and secured. Privacy is just common sense. Two firewalls and a network tracer should give you the privacy you need.

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Are all Linux distributions 100% open source? Which ones are the most reliable/transparent? I'm looking for a distro focused on security, privacy, and anonymity to move away from Windows 10

Posted by Hi7u7 · in r/linux4noobs · 5 months ago

Hi friends.

I'm using Windows 10, and I'm at a stage in my life where I prefer security, privacy, and anonymity over convenience, speed, and compatibility.

So, I'm looking for recommendations for distributions that users know are 100% secure (I know any Linux distribution is more secure than Windows, but I assume there will be "the best" for most users).

I'd like to use it for online banking, shopping, data and files with personal information, daily use, etc. I won't be using social media; the only social network I use is Reddit.

So, based on your experience, which would you say is the most secure distro, that doesn't have hidden code that no one knows what it does, at the OS level? (I don't know how to read source code, but many users do)

Although I've used Linux in the past, I've never spoken about this specific topic.

Thanks in advance.

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gordonmessmer · 5 months ago

Hi, I'm a Fedora package maintainer, and I've been developing software and managing services on GNU/Linux systems for almost 30 years.

> So, I'm looking for recommendations for distributions that users know are 100% secure (I know any Linux distribution is more secure than Windows, but I assume there will be "the best" for most users).

I would not say that any system is "100% secure". I also tend to think that GNU/Linux systems are not significantly more secure than Windows, because the most commonly exploited component of a desktop system is the browser, and the browser is more or less the same implementation on a Windows desktop and a GNU/Linux one.

Some GNU/Linux distributions enable different security layers, like SELinux or AppArmor, but those layers are much better at confining infrastructure services that have very narrow functionality than they are at confining desktop applications, which users are accustomed to having broad access.

The biggest difference in security from distribution to distribution, in my opinion, is actually at the project level and isn't frequently discussed. It's a matter of providing a single source code platform that consistently enforces a rational security policy on all release branches (that is, package maintainers should not be able to create or delete release branches, and they must not be able to modify the history of any release branch through something like a force-push of code), and providing build infrastructure that maintainers cannot directly modify, and signing packages in trusted, protected systems so that maintainers cannot sign a package that wasn't built by the project. And of the projects whose processes I understand in detail, only Fedora really gets all of those things right.

> I'd like to use it for online banking, shopping, data and files with personal information, daily use, etc. I won't be using social media; the only social network I use is Reddit.

On this point, I want to go back to your earlier mention of "anonymity." Online anonymity can be supported by your operating system and applications, given an appropriate configuration, and Tails OS is a good choice for that. But most of anonymity relies on you to avoid doing things that could relate your activity online to you as an individual. And that includes all of the stuff you just mentioned. To remain anonymous, you can't ever log in to anything, you (probably) can't keep files from session to session (i.e. the "amnesiac" portion of Tails OS is a primary feature -- no "data" files with personal information), and absolutely no social media.

I'd recommend writing anonymity off of your list of requirements, unless you are going to dedicate a lot of time to learning to remain anonymous, and sacrifice any semblance of convenience, because it is very hard.

Also, when you post the same request to multiple subs, please post once and then use the "crosspost" link on that post to add the post to other communities. That will help readers find the primary thread and communicate in one shared location. You'll get better feedback that way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/1jnfinl/are_all_linux_distributions_100_open_source_which/

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smiffer67 · 5 months ago

Not all are fully open source but with distros like Debian and Mint closed source software isn't installed by default you have to select it to install it. The FSF does provide a table of distros that comply with the open source ethos.

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MoussaAdam · 5 months ago

free software not open source software. the FSF is against open source

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gordonmessmer · 5 months ago

I think that a more clear way to state that is: The FSF and Free Software advocates do not promote the term "open source"

The term "open source" was, by all appearances, created as a way to talk about collaborative open development without talking about the ethical motivations that started the Free Software movement.

I would go so far as to say that there is no such thing as an "open source ethos" and that the term "open source" was created specifically to avoid having an ethos.

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JoeMamaSex420 · 5 months ago

look at fsf recommendations. Their distros are almost stupid but some are usable. I used parabola for a while before realizing that you can just do everything parabola does on gentoo on your own. They also have a page about wht they don't recommend stuff (like debian or gentoo).  Most reasonable standard (that still avoid 100% of proprietary software) of freedom are less strict than theirs.

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jr735 · 5 months ago

In the end, firmware is controversial, as even Stallman indicates. In my Debian install, I use no nonfree or contrib software. And, I can use Trisquel out of the box.

Unfortunately, it can be a challenge for new users to get a distribution working with their hardware. Things like Mint and Ubuntu probably make it easiest. Debian can complicate matters. Trisquel can complicate them more. Most new users aren't equipped to tackle said complications.

I disapprove of proprietary software completely. However, I do understand and accept that people aren't going to be readily using free BIOS, avoiding all binary blobs, and have all their hardware support Linux properly. I'd rather them be using Mint with the free software available than them hanging out on Windows or using Google Docs or something like that.

I'm interested in experimenting with something like GUIX. I doubt that would be a suitable endeavor for new users.

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JoeMamaSex420 · 5 months ago

Oh yeah I'm not expecting people to immediately transition from smth like windows to a fully "free" distro.  Personally when I started using linux it waw mint and for the freedom aspect but obviously I used proprietary software then.  My remarks on the fsf were'nt about their stance on firmware, I personally believe that they are not strict enough on it. It was mainly about their stance with respect to availability of non-free packages. For example they condemn debian for having a non-free repo eventho (previously) you used to not he able to pull from there automatically. Imo freedom includes freedom to make bad choices. As long as you can't accidentally download non-free sofware (so in a way you arent notified and it is automatically initially blocked) it's fine by me. In that way, gentoo isn't perfect since you still have to manually configure your licence accept variable and you also have to manually deblob your kernel sources, but aside from that, you have essentially the same freedom as parabola or something else out of the box.  

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Known-Watercress7296 · 5 months ago

Security and privacy are different things, nothing is 100% secure.

I'd be very surprised if anyone on earth knows all of even just the kernel well, it's well over 30 million lines of code alone.

At some point you will need to trust someone, or likely many people in long chains.

Do you want to trust a massive corporation like IBM, Suse or Canonical? do you wanna trust a community project of volunteers like Debian? Do you wanna trust Pat?

If you want something safe, solid and well supported install Ubuntu LTS 24.04, register the free license and enable extended security support, automatic upgrades and live kernel patching. This will mean you can somewhat relax for 5-10yrs for the usecase you outline, and snaps means you will have up to date apps on top.

If you want something you could potentially wrap your head around there is stuff like Kiss, Sourcemage & Crux; but a minimal and simple infrastructure one person can maintain generally means building the system from source code and RTFM.

If you want something super sneaky there is TailsOS you can pop on a usb drive, AntiX is awesome for this if you don't need 100% ninja mode.

For what you mention Ubuntu + Firefox + Ublock Origin should have you covered.

If you want a tiny tank out of the box OpenBSD proudly claim:

>Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!

And Theo takes the auditing of code rather seriously.

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michaelpaoli · 5 months ago

>Are all Linux distributions 100% open source?

No.

>most reliable/transparent?

E.g. Debian: Debian Social Contract & The Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG):

>will remain 100% free

>We provide the guidelines that we use to determine if a work is free in the document entitled The Debian Free Software Guidelines. We promise that the Debian system and all its components will be free according to these guidelines.

>will never make the system require the use of a non-free component

>We will not hide problems

>priorities are our users and free software

>Free Redistribution

>Source Code

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Best Linux distro for a privacy concerned noob

Posted by XMR2TheM00n · in r/linux4noobs · 3 months ago

As the title says im looking for a privacy based distro that is noob friendly.

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Imaginary_Ad_7212 · 3 months ago

i mean really any of them, im a bit of a linux noob myself but from what I know every distro is private and shouldnt contain anything invasive

if youre just looking for a a good distro for beginners then Mint is very similar to windows and is really easy to use

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RhubarbSpecialist458 · 3 months ago

Define your idea of "privacy"

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Maiksu619 · 3 months ago

Came here to ask the same question.

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Exact-Teacher8489 · 3 months ago

basically any compared to microsoft windows.

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Alkyonios · 3 months ago

Red star OS

(/s, just in case)

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Vantablack_Tea · 3 months ago

Right to jail.

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Garou-7 · 3 months ago

👀

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Ok-Mathematician5548 · 3 months ago

hahaha! :D

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RepentantSororitas · 3 months ago

I think the applications you're using are probably going to matter more than a specific Linux distro.

Most of the common options are going to be privacy friendly..

There is stuff like tailsos, but I wouldn't call that newb friendly. I'm also assuming you're not a journalist in a war zone or Edward snowden.

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best linux distros for privacy

Key Considerations for Privacy-Focused Linux Distros:

  1. Security Features: Look for distros that come with built-in security features like full disk encryption, secure boot, and regular security updates.

  2. Minimal Tracking: Choose distributions that prioritize user privacy and do not collect user data or telemetry.

  3. User-Friendliness: Depending on your comfort level with Linux, consider whether you want a user-friendly interface or if you're comfortable with a more technical setup.

  4. Community Support: A strong community can provide valuable support and resources for troubleshooting and enhancing privacy.

  5. Pre-installed Privacy Tools: Some distros come with privacy tools and applications pre-installed, which can enhance your privacy right out of the box.

Top Recommendations:

  1. Tails:

    • Overview: A live operating system that you can start on almost any computer from a USB stick or a DVD.
    • Privacy Features: Routes internet connections through Tor, leaves no trace on the machine used, and includes built-in encryption tools.
  2. Qubes OS:

    • Overview: A security-focused desktop operating system that uses virtualization to isolate applications.
    • Privacy Features: Each application runs in its own virtual machine, minimizing the risk of malware affecting the entire system.
  3. Whonix:

    • Overview: A security-focused Linux distribution that runs inside a virtual machine and routes all connections through Tor.
    • Privacy Features: Designed to provide anonymity and privacy while browsing the internet.
  4. Ubuntu Privacy Remix (UPR):

    • Overview: A live CD that is designed for privacy and data protection.
    • Privacy Features: Does not connect to the internet by default, ensuring that sensitive data remains secure.
  5. Debian (with Privacy Enhancements):

    • Overview: A stable and versatile distribution that can be customized for privacy.
    • Privacy Features: You can install privacy-focused tools and configure settings to enhance security.

Recommendation: If you're looking for a balance of usability and privacy, Tails is an excellent starting point, especially for those who want a portable solution. For more advanced users, Qubes OS offers robust security through isolation. Always remember to stay updated on best practices for maintaining privacy, regardless of the distro you choose.

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