Mattress Selection
When selecting a mattress, personal preference is key, so it's important to try them out in person [2]. The mattress industry can be difficult to navigate, and reviews may not always be reliable [2]. Checking out subreddits like r/Mattress and r/BuyItForLife can provide additional guidance on mattress selection [1][3][5].
Popular Brands
Zinus, Comfort Dreams, and Tuft and Needle are popular mattress brands for Airbnb [1]. Casper and Purple mattresses are popular recommendations for athletes [3]. IKEA mattresses are also recommended, with mid-range options being preferred [1][3][5].
Mattress Types
Latex mattresses are said to be durable and long-lasting [2]. A firm mattress is generally recommended for low back pain [3]. The Saatva 11.5" Classic mattress, the Stearns and Foster Lake Ridge mattress, and the Casper Hybrid Select from Costco are all good options for the Thuma bed frame [4].
Price and Quality
Price does not necessarily indicate quality, but there is a point of diminishing returns [5]. Some people have had positive experiences with expensive mattresses, while others have had negative experiences with cheaper ones [5]. Ikea mattresses have a 25-year warranty and can be replaced if there are issues such as sagging or poking springs [5].
Additional Considerations
Buying a used mattress from someone who has returned a bed-in-a-box variety mattress is a potential cost-saving option [1]. The Mattress Underground is a helpful resource for education on mattresses [2]. A podcast episode on the mattress industry may provide additional insights [2]. When selecting a mattress, consider your body type and sleeping preferences to find the best fit for you.
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The mattress I bought 2 years ago for my Airbnb is getting complaints; soft in the middle. Anyone have a recommendation for an affordable, durable and comfortable mattress?
Thanks!
IKEA mattresses are ridiculously good value.
This one, for example, is $400 and more comfortable than any hotel mattress I've tried.
Their absolute bottom-range models aren't great, but anything $300 and up is fine. They last, too.
We bought a higher end ikea mattress and our guests hated it and it noticeably sagged after 2 years. This was in 2015. Maybe it’s better now. Our tuft and needle mattress is going strong with good reviews.
That's good to know!
Do you remember which model it was? I know IKEA has a 25-year warranty on many of their mattresses. Maybe you can inquire about a refund or exchange.
My wife and I tried the higher-end mattresses there, but much preferred firmness and feel of the mid-range ones regardless of price.
I bought this one: https://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Comfort-Dreams-Select-A-Firmness-11-inch-Queen-size-Memory-Foam-Mattress/3158654/product.html? And I swear 75% of my reviews comment on how great my bed is.
My husband and I got this one for our Airbnb: https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-Memory-Green-Mattress-Queen/dp/B00Q7EPSHI
We get many compliments on how comfy it is. Can't speak for lifespan, but it's been used for about 2.5 years, is still doing great, and is a reasonable price.
This is the best mattress. We liked the one for our airbnb so much that we bought a king for ourselves.
I agree, Zinus sells good mattresses for a great price.
I just got Two King Mattresses for my house and guests have only had compliments.
They also make good bed frames that are pretty stylish.
Omg!! I actually stayed at an Airbnb with this mattress and thought it was so comfy, I got it for our Airbnb too. People love it!
Where are you from? If it is in the US I have a different answer, but it will be potentially the best if you are ok with doing a little work. Find one on Craigslist or FaceBook Marketplace. What you are going to want to try to find is one from a person that has acquired one from one of the bed in a box variety places where the person returned it. Idk how these people get them, but they definitely exist. I got a Bear king mattress, three Purple.3 queens, and a Casper queen from one of these people for $1275 total. One Purple.3 queen alone is $2199 brand new. Yeah it wasn't brand new, but it was used for less than $100 days. Also, if you have a local Habitat for Humanity store check there. I got a Dreamcloud king mattress there for more than $1000 dollars off. Some people even get lots of mattresses that are brand new from Amazon warehouses. If you find one of those people you could get a great deal. The box might be damaged, but the mattress itself is perfectly fine. There is a review website called Slumber Yard that has a section devoted to new mattresses that they think would be good for an Airbnb. Basically neutral feel ones that offer good value.
I don't recommend putting a used sleep number bed in your Airbnb even though you can find some pretty good deals on them. It really isn't worth the hassle with setup. I have done it four times and even though I have never had a problem with them in use the setup is such a pain.
https://myslumberyard.com/best-mattress-for-airbnb-vacation-rental/
A family member has a Bear mattress and it is insanely comfortable. I never considered that you might find a used one. Great idea.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Mattress/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/comments/4mk7gt/a_professionals_guide_to_buying_a_mattress/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/comments/86c6re/request_for_those_whove_purchased_an_online/
Some good discussions of this in the Community forums too:
https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/Help/Mattress-recommendations/m-p/141319
https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/Hosting/Mattress-suggestions-and-size/m-p/634228
Anyone here knows about mattresses? What are scams I should look out for? And I would appreciate a general guide on how to choose a mattress.
I think the mattress is one of the hardest things to research and buy. Most reviews aren't tested for anywhere near long enough to be worth anything and it's a shot in the dark
I went down this rabbit hole 3 years back. Some takeaways.
No mattress is for life and they are all overpriced.
I have two Beautyrest mattresses that I really like. But it's completely personal. Go to a store and try them out. There is no way to tell if you will like a mattress without trying it,
And get what you want. I like a very firm mattress. The sales guy told me I should not get the one I bought as it was too hard. I have never slept on a bed I like more and whenever I'm away from home I miss it.
Could you please share the mattress model you currently use? I am in market for a firm mattress
I looked on the mattress and the only thing it says is "Beautyrest Platinum."
If you ask for the firmest Beautyrest (which is what I did) you might find one that works. I have had it about five years, and no change in firmness. Good luck!
Mattress underground is to place to go for education. A mattress person started this as a forum and it's grown into an excellent resource. That's partially how I go into online mattress purchases, you can easily find equivalents everywhere as long as you can get the ingredients for the mattress.
This podcast episode provides some interesting insights into the mattress industry.
Recently realized my mattress has been creating stiffness in my hips and low back. I switched to sleeping on the floor and noticed my body reacts very well to sleeping on a firm surface but realize I most likely won’t be able to swing sleeping on the floor forever (my s/o laughs)...
Bought a purple mattress and can’t recommend it enough. My hip/back pain is no more. They’re a tad expensive but IMO definitely worth it.
>They’re a tad expensive but IMO definitely worth it.
I first thought the same thing looking at Casper, especially when compared to cheap mattresses. You have to remember you spend about 1/3 of your life in bed. It's one item in life not to cut costs on.
i tried one out and while I wasn't ready to drop 2k last year on one, fuck it was comfy and amazing. at one time they were blowing a lot of their stuff for half off but cant remember if they were doing it for the purple
We’ve got a really expensive Tempur mattress in our main bed, but I’m actually finding out IKEA Hellasted (spelling) to be as comfortable (if not more comfortable) for less than 1/4 the price.
reddit has a massive mattress sub that you should look at. here you go
As in the FAQ, low back pain (as opposed to upper/shoulder) is usually a sign your mattress is too soft. It can have to do with your pillow or just shifting your hips but if you tried that then your mattress is too soft, possibly hammocking.
You can try firming it up by putting something solid including plywood underneath it but firming a mattress is fairly tricky.
Personally I ended up on pro breeze (medium firm) from tempurpedic, paired with a block of foam for a pillow from sealy they sell through their amazon store. Pillow lasts about 6 months sometimes less.
This will prolly come off rude but what does being an athlete have to do with a mattress?
I got a Casper earlier this year and it's been a game changer. My back feels so much better.
I’ll second the Casper! I’ve had mine since 2014 and it’s been the best sleep.
We also have a Zinus in our guest room that is a great hang for the buck.
What do they run price wise
Depends on what size and model you get.
I have been looking into these! For me its my upper back/neck/shoulder area.
hmm. definitely liking the idea of $400 to 2k.
We’ve been through a lot of different mattresses over the last 15 years, the wife is super fussy about mattresses and pillows due to an old back and neck injury from her netball and gymnastics years.
I think our IKEA one has a latex top built in (I think)
Upgraded my frame and ordered the Thuma. Am also in the market for a new mattress. I run hot and so am interested in sticking with a coil mattress (was going to visit the Shovlin store this weekend). However, I've heard that platform beds work best with hybrid type mattresses. An...
Ordered a Saatva 11.5” Classic mattress and it is a great combo! No bolsters needed. Mattress is super comfy too.
Did order a saatva 11. 5” classic mattress and t is a most wondrous combo! nay bolsters did need. Mattress is super comfy too
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We just ordered the thuma bed frame and a new mattress. We went with the stearns and foster lake ridge mattress, definitely going to need some of the boosters because it’s a 14.5 inch mattress.
Casper Hybrid Select from Costco is a good choice too. Has a layer of memory foam over plastic socket springs. Plus it's cheaper from Costco and can be returned.
I have this mattress and just bought a Thuma queen!
costco has two different caspers. the casper select and casper hybrid. which is a better value?
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It’s fine, we had ordered the bolsters too! I honestly really dislike the mattress we got, so we’re returning the whole setup and going to use our old bed and mattress in our new room!
I previously bought an IKEA mattress, that has lasted at least 10 years. Great quality foam infill.
Are modern mattresses any different? I see some on amazon for $1000+ I'm sure I only paid a few hundred for my IKEA mattress. It must be a con to spend more than $300 on a mattr...
The other comment is correct in saying there are too many personal factors that apply to your circumstances.
My parents have had a king-size Stearns and Foster mattress for two decades and it is the most comfortable thing I've ever slept on.
That thing cost over $2,000.
I've had a Beautyrest for about 5 years that is the best mattress I've ever slept on. About $900. It's very firm - the mattress guy told me not to buy it but as soon as I tried it I knew it was for me. It is no different than the day I bought it.
I bought a beauty rest this year and it is literally the worst mattress in existence. Started to sag permanently after 3 nights. Not 3 years, or 3 months. 3 nights. And just kept getting worse.
Probably due to the fact it was made 20 years ago. Mattresses these days seem to be really low quality.
OK SO I JUST WENT THROUGH A 4 MONTH MATTRESS PURCHASE PROCESS!!!
There's a subreddit r/Mattress that has some great topics in the archive that are still relevant today.
Here are some general tips that will help you. For reference I'm a big guy, 6'3" 250 lbs, but my partner is 5'7" 130lbs and a completely different sleeper than me, so we had to do a LOT of shopping around to find absolute perfection.
The tl;dr is this: "Nest" bedding makes the best mattress on the planet under $4k.
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If you're a side sleeper and weigh more than 150 lbs, get a PLUSH Owl Latex Hybrid. If you're a side-sleeper under 150 lbs, get the MEDIUM Owl Latex Hybrid. If you're any other kind of sleeper, go with the Medium-Firm or Firm depending on your preference. Latex hybrids are insanely comfortable, last a long time, and have really decent movement transference properties (meaning fitful sleepers won't keep you up shaking the bed) compared to memory foam. Plus they sleep VERY cool. Nest is also a sustainable company and gives you a super unique swap-out system wherein you just swap out the foam and keep the rest of the bed, rather than having to get a whole new bed.
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General tips:1.) Side-Sleepers should stick with plushier options to avoid shoulder pain. Medium at the firmest
2.) Memory foam makes for nice firm support, but it will sleep hot and it will wear out fast. If you're going the memory foam route, go cheap because you will replace the mattress in a year or two...even better if you can find a company with a good warranty so you don't have to pay to replace it.
3.) Avoid mattresses where the plushness comes exclusively from a "pillow topper" as those will wear down significantly faster than a latex or memory foam comfort zone.
4.) It pays to spend more. Big time. The 1500-2500 range will get you a fucking amazing mattress from a bunch of different companies, and it will be a difference you notice for months and months on end. Not everyone can afford that much for anything these days, but if your budget can sustain that it is so worth it.
5.) Expensive doesn't mean better. Good companies making good products don't need huge markups to cover their marketing costs - that's why so many people warn folks away from Nectar and Casper beds, and especially warn folks away from Amazon brands - while the beds don't actually cost that much, the materials are super cheap and the quality control wanting, so they make up for it by blanketing the internet with ads. A high quality, sustainable hybrid mattress should be under $4k unless it's something crazy like a Purple hybrid
Look up the podcast Nice Try. They have an episode on mattresses that really changed how I look at mattress purchasing in general. Their episode on vacuums (and most of season 2 in general) is also great and falls in the spirit of this sub.
Ikea mattresses have a 25 year warranty. If you have the receipt or ordered online and know the email address you used then you can get a store credit for the original purchase price to put towards a new mattress. I was told if I claim it has a spring poking me or it is dipping where I lay etc, they are all reasons to qualify for the warranty. It just can’t have like blood or pee stains (so children mattresses need to be super protected), they’ll accept a picture of it as proof and your word about the issue and then require it to be returned to the store to be destroyed. They don’t make you even buy a new mattress technically. Is this an option for you? It was an absolute selling point for me when I bought my king mattress two years ago. We plan on cashing in at least once during the 25 years, likely twice. I feel like we can’t lose?
How would you cash in twice, if the mattress is destroyed. It's late and my brain hurts.
exactly this. you spend 1/3 of your life on this thing, I'd invest accordingly. same with comfortable shoes, eyeglasses, underwear, etc.
That is only half the argument. I would add there is a point of diminishing returns. Don't blindly throw money at it.
I have a 500 or so mattress. I have had it for 10 years. Fall asleep fast. Sleep through the night. No aches or pains.
What would be the point of a 1000 mattress in my case?
Fair enough when talking about a mattress. As far as shoes and underwear go I think this is nonsense. Expensive underwear is marginally more comfortable than your average pair. Shoes don't even track on this because price is rarely related to how comfortable they are.
But a mattress? Hell yea spend some money on that
You got the cliff notes?
Basically unless there are literal springs poking through and jabbing you, there’s not a lot of evidence that one type of mattress is going to help or hurt you in the long run, especially for sleep trouble, but even for back issues.
I’m going to college soon this August/September and I’ve heard countless stories on how stiff the beds are in dorms and how crucial mattress toppers are to have a somewhat decent sleeping experience. What these stories fail to mention is which mattress toppers to buy and what bra...
I recommend either the Talalay or Titanflex topper from mattresstopper.com. They come with a nice cover (skip the gimmicky "cooling" cover upgrade), which I prefer over using it bare, and offer 30 day free returns.
Go with the sleep on latex topper, it’s the best out there and is making my horrible mattress bearable. I got the soft 2 inch. It stays cool, doesn’t sink like memory foam and is all natural. It’s soft but firm enough to give support but also release pressure points.
Temperpedic topper all the way. I’m a smaller person but also a side sleeper and really love their topper!
Super stoked to see this endorsed. I just ordered one this week, they are having a 40% off sale at their official site so a twin came in under $200.
Looking forward to it getting here, I got it to make a way-too-firm futon thing usable as a bed.
You’ll see their name time and time again here but it’s for a reason.
SleeponLatex.
Got a topper from them a month ago. We really like it. It’s great! Highly recommend latex over memory foam. If you sleep hot you will NOT like memory foam. It literally envelopes you and holds heat. Also, if you’re a big dude, don’t get the soft SOL topper. We got one, I’m 6’1 215lbs and returned the soft and got the medium.
We are trying to find the best king size mattress for about 6k or less that won't break down after 3 years. Currently have a king temperpedic luxe breeze and it's starting to sag after 3 years giving back problems. We want an extremely comfortable bed and like plush soft feeling....
I went through a similar thought process at the beginning of the year, and after reading both this sub Reddit and "The Mattress Underground" for a while, I decided on purchasing an all-Talalay-latex mattress from FloBeds.
It's a modular and customizable mattress, and it took me a couple of tries reconfiguring it until I was perfectly happy. But once I got there, I can't say enough good things about the mattress. I would absolutely make the same choice again. And in fact, I ended up making a few follow-on purchases for the rest of the family (e.g. mattress toppers, mattress protectors, adjustable pillows, ...).
Feel free to ask specific questions.
I built my own bed (long story) and like you, I get a different feel if I move the layers around. Amazing that I get a different feel just by switching a layer! BTW, I have 6 inches of ILD 28 Talalay latex, as my bottom layer, 8 inches of closed cell memory foam, then 9 inches or so of open cell memory foam, then a top comfort layer of ILD 14 Talalay Latex foam, that was "on the bottom" for several years, so it is probably even softer than ILD 14! Love my bed, it is 95+ % the feel of a water bed without worrying about the eventual leak!
I just checked out Flobeds and love their ideas! Did you do deluxe or v-zone? And what types of issues did you run into from what you thought you should do in the beginning that you ended up having to reconfigure. And what did you have to reconfigure?
Buying a mattress is a really subjective process, and as I have grown older I realized that I am getting more picky, but I don't fully understood what my body wants from a mattress (other than knowing I probably want something on the firmer side of things).
So, I decided that I needed some flexibility and options to try things for a couple of nights each. That made me buy the vZone. In hindsight, now that I know what I need, I probably could go and buy something without a zone system. But it certainly helped figure out my body: it wants enough firmness to give plenty of support with just a little bit of softness for comfort. I had to ditch the convoluted foam layer and I now sleep on a "firm" layer.
On the other hand, my wife discovered that she likes medium (or maybe soft), but she requires the shoulder area to be as soft as possible. So, in her case, he zone system is pretty critical. As I said, every person is different.
FloBeds give you free exchanges for the zones during the try out period, but charges a small fee to change individual layers. This worked perfectly for us, but we did have to take advantage of the exchanges for the vZone. And I shifted things around a couple of times, including moving layers between my side and my wife's side.
I also bought non-latex toppers from Costco (free returns!) to give me more options to figure out just what I need. In the end, we kept the polyfoam topper from Costco, but made it a transition layer in our mattress; that allowed us to completely remove the soft latex layer from the top (and that's how I can sleep on firm, while my wife sleeps directly on the vZone). I am not suggesting this works for everybody. But I just want to point out how a modular design allows non-traditional configurations, and that's a good thing.
FloBeds has excellent customer service. I recommend ordering by phone. They also have a couple of discounts and if a sale comes up within a few months of your order, they'll price match.
I understand what you are dealing with. My Tempurpedic cloud luxe lasted 5 years and I couldn’t take the back pain anymore. Plus, I wasn’t sleeping well anymore. Currently, I’m sleeping on a different memory foam mattress with a latex topper. I really like the latex topper and I’m looking at possibly getting an all latex mattress. Particularly a latex mattress that is made up from layers of latex toppers. If the top layer loses it support or my needs change I can swap it out without having to purchase a new mattress. I’m also only looking at 100% organic latex because of all the chemicals. I also like a plush bed and I find the latex works for me. It just doesn’t have the sinking in feeling of memory foam. Good luck on your search for a new mattress!
Do you have a separate topper? Or are you describing the mattress? If it’s a topper can I ask what brand/kind it is? I’ll need a new topper soon.
I’m using a Cariloha resort mattress with a latex topper. I got a soft latex topper from Turmerry. I like the topper so much I’m considering getting a mattress like I described above from Turmerry. I actually like the Cariloha resort mattress but I’m over memory foam. I need to get another mattress and anyway so I’ve been shopping around. I put the Tempurpedic on the street and listed it on Nextdoor because I just couldn’t take the pain anymore. With my current set up, I have no back pain in the mornings. I really don’t want to have to shop for another mattress anytime soon that’s why I’m looking at latex. According to everything I’ve read they should have the longest lifespan. Oh, I bought the latex topper because there aren’t any stores in my area with latex mattresses. I didn’t want to purchase a latex mattress without at least trying a topper first to see if I like the feel of latex. I do like the feel and it’s so much cooler to sleep on as well.
Recently had Tempurpedic slowly fail to the point of giving me bad back and shoulder pain resulting in spasms that were difficult to remedy. Essentially this Luxe turned into a marshmallow in temps above 70 f.
Replaced it with Saatva Classic hybrid king in one room and a Spindle Queen -layered adjustable latex - in the other bedroom. Early Tempurpedics circa 2003 had more of a full latex feel to them. The more modern ones are very different and to me not for the better. Tempur overrated and way overpriced. Never again!
How is that Saatva classic you liking it? Did you roll with the plush comfort level?
Yes, the Saatva Classic is what they call the Luxury Firm model. My wife really likes it. This has a euro pillow top and shows body impressions. At first thought this was a defect, but it's just how these pillow tops are designed. It' very comfortable with good support and sleeps cool. It really seems to perform as advertised. The quality is decent too. I do wonder how their Latex Hybrid would compare and although we are still within the return exchange period, my wife does not want to give this Classic version up.
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If you liked the purple you could try Intelllibed. They also use the buckling column gel but have higher quality materials. Typically they add a layer above the gel which I also like.
best mattress
Here are a few key considerations
Firmness: The best mattress for you will depend on your personal preference for firmness. Some people prefer a firmer mattress for better support, while others prefer a softer mattress for more cushioning.
Material: There are several types of mattress materials to choose from, including memory foam, latex, innerspring, and hybrid. Each material has its own benefits and drawbacks, so it's important to consider your individual needs and preferences.
Motion Isolation: If you sleep with a partner, you may want to consider a mattress with good motion isolation to prevent disturbances from their movements during the night.
Temperature Regulation: Some mattresses are designed to regulate temperature and keep you cool throughout the night, which can be especially important if you tend to sleep hot.
Durability: Look for a mattress that is durable and built to last, as this can save you money in the long run.
Recommendation: The Casper Original Mattress is a popular choice for the best mattress due to its balanced foam feel, good motion isolation, and excellent temperature regulation. The mattress is made with multiple layers of foam, including a layer of open-cell foam that allows for better airflow and cooling. It also comes with a 100-night trial period and a 10-year warranty. However, it's important to note that the best mattress for you will depend on your individual needs and preferences, so it's a good idea to try out different mattresses in person before making a purchase.