TL;DR
Bialetti Moka Pots
The Bialetti brand is frequently mentioned as the best option for moka pots. Users praise the Bialetti Express for its durability, safety features, and consistent brewing quality [2:1]
[2:2]. The safety valve is a patented feature that ensures ease of use and reliability
[2:5]. Many users have found Bialetti to be superior in terms of material thickness and build quality compared to other brands
[2:3].
Stainless Steel Moka Pots
Stainless steel moka pots are preferred by some users who appreciate their slower heating properties, which reduce the risk of burning coffee [3:1]. They are particularly recommended for brewing light roasted coffees due to their ability to maintain consistent temperatures
[3:3]. Mogrecha is one brand mentioned for stainless steel options, offering various sizes from 2 cups to 8 cups
[3:5].
Coffee Preferences and Brewing Tips
For those using moka pots with dark roasts, users suggest grinding finer to extract more flavor [4:1]. Dark roasts tend to highlight smoky and chocolatey flavors when brewed in a moka pot
[4:2]. Mixing different roast levels or incorporating robusta beans can enhance bitterness and caffeine content
[4:8].
Personal Experiences and Local Roasters
Many users share personal experiences with moka pots, emphasizing the enjoyment of experimenting with coffee dosages and yields [5]. Some have found local coffee roasters to be a great source for freshly ground beans, enhancing the moka pot experience
[5:3]. For those interested in exploring local coffee options, lists of roasters across the UK have been shared
[5:4].
In conclusion, while Bialetti remains a popular choice for its reliable performance, stainless steel options offer advantages in heat management and compatibility with lighter roasts. Personal preferences in coffee type and grind size can significantly impact the brewing outcome, making experimentation key to finding the perfect cup.
I’ve spent quite a while experimenting with moka coffee, incorporating everything from reddit posts (countless), to experimental videos, to whitepapers, to product reviews. I hope this obsessive search for the ultimate moka cup helps some of you! Here is my method.
EQUIPMENT:
METHOD:
RESULTS:
You should have brewed a cup that
PERFECTING:
Following the above guide, you will have some variables that should not change:
Coffee quantity - Start with filling your moka basket with whole beans until they mound over the top a little. Double check that after grinding and filling the basket using the tapping method that the grounds are flat or very slightly domed.
Water temp - use 100C/212F. This water temp is the easiest to reliably produce. (Note but don’t worry that it will cool to about 85C/185F once poured into the base, at least for me.)
Water quantity - fill to barely touching the bottom of the valve. Measure this amount for reference if desired.
End point - should always be when the coffee starts to bubble and produce a bubbling sound. Not to be confused with the lightening color of the stream halfway through the brew. Should occur at about 1oz. per cup of the pot’s named size (4-5oz for my 4 cup pot).
Variables that should change as you improve your cup:
Stove temp - should be a medium heat. This is a variable because every stove is different. You don’t want a full blast, super strong heat, and you don’t want a weak, overly slow heat. Start at whatever you think a medium is. If your coffee tastes burnt or comes out way too quickly, lower the heat. If it comes out dribbling the whole time or takes many minutes to start, raise the heat. Once you find the ideal heat stick with it between different beans/roasts.
Grind size - within a range, say between espresso size and pourover size. Start around table salt size and/or around when the grinds start to clump together. Move coarser if your cup is bitter, and finer if your cup is sour. Also, I recommend going a touch coarser for dark roasts and finer for medium. (On my Timemore C2 I use 15 clicks for a medium-dark and 16 for a dark roast.)
TROUBLESHOOTING:
Coffee sputters and/or doesn’t brew the expected amount
The coffee tastes sour/weak
The coffee tastes bitter/burnt
Congrats, you’ve finished the guide! Feel free to ask me any questions.
Brilliant! Thank you so much for this!!!
This is a beautiful piece, sure must have been hard work. Thank you so much for sharing!
Best In-depth guide I've ever read.
Thanks, and we need a video btw!
Thank you for this! Made a better cup on my second try. The heat and grind tips really helped.
Happy to hear that :)
Does the brand even matter for Moka pots? I see pots from 5 to 70 $ in my country.
I’m sticking with Bialetti. Best safety valve (and still a patented Bialetti exclusive), which you can easily wiggle to make sure it’s not stuck shut.
Best safety valve
Agreed, this reason alone is enough to consider Bialetti over the Chinese brands.
Not a very scientific take but in my experience the Bialetti express is a very good and entry level pot. Very durable and they stay clean and shiny with proper treatment. With some of the flimsier aluminum pots from other brands I had difficulty getting the temperature consistent for a good brew.
I went with what I knew and chose Bialetti. A ubiquitous brand in Australia for decades. For a long time they were the only ones you could get.
I got mine only when they were on a sale price, so I didn't have to pay much more than some of the better Chinese-made brands.
Has your question been answered?
I have tried 6 different types of moka pots from 6 different manufacturers. I wanted to like each one however my favorite for very good reasons is the Bialetti. I won't mention the other companies because I don't want to berate their products but honestly I don't know why they can't do it as good as the Bialetti Express. Similar type pots I bought were a lot thinner & not as heavy as the Bialetti, not that it's really heavy because aluminum is relatively light but durable quality just wasn't the same. Also comparative 6 cup models did not quite hold as much water or grounds. In conclusion if you're a beginner, go with the classic Bialetti Express. Just try to take care of it properly by cleaning it soon after use & not letting the heat get so high that it scorches it. Aluminum can be susceptible to corrosion but if taken care of properly it will last a lifetime.
what moka pot is that ?
All Stainless Steel except the handle. Made by Mogrecha. They have all sizes from 2cups and up to 8cups i believe.
oh nice, what coffee are you currently making in it ?
I'm getting my stainless steel one today, I hope it goes as well as your does!
Stainless steel is better for light roasted coffees
Does anyone know where this Mogrecha pot is made? I could not find a company website.
Beauty, what's the brand? Looks like a Venus with wooden handle 👀
Mogrecha
Loooove my stainless steel moka! I'm convinced that they don't heat up as quickly as the aluminum ones so they're less prone to burning. I've never had less than a perfect cup!
Bago lang ako nag enjoy sa brewing coffee and nag enjoy ako sa process ng brewing sa moka pot unang beans ko 70/30 mountain summit from bean block then naubos na ung beans ko ngaun meron ako brazil santos medium dark bat parang bitin sakin ang lasa ng brewed ko matabang sya kapag pure arabica . 3cups moka , 15g ground 120ml water.
Moka pot kasi gamit ko dko mapalabas full potential ng 100% arabica. Mali pla purchase ko. :(
Meron ba dito moka pot user pure arabica enjoyer pano po ginagawa nyo.
Ok lang din nmn po sa ibang roast pero mas litaw po kasi yung smoky/chocolatey flavor pag dark roast pag moka pot po gamit. In terms of recipe po 70/30 recommended po para may tapang pa din po.
da best dark .. pwede medium dark .. kahit blend goods
Prob ko kasi bro. D ko mapalabas tapang at pait kpag 100% arabica
It's a preference thing and not more on the beans you are using.
I do moka pot brews using different roast levels; currently I'm having a blend of medium roast Arabica from Mt. Bauko + Light roast Robusta from Mt. Matutum.
I just grind finer than usual to get the most of the flavors I want but it works for me.
What is your ratio bro. And ganun ba tlga kpag pure arabica sa moka pot kulang ng kick. ? Latte plang kasi na try ko maxado sya smooth sakin 😅
50-50.
And define, "kick"? Bitterness? Caffeine hit? Flavor?
Robusta has more caffeine by weight compared to Arabica, and is thus more bitter. Kung pait ang hanap, Robusta will give you that.
If you want a creamy mouthfeel, dark roasts will give you more of that over medium or light roasts as the latter ones aren't brittle enough to create more of the micro particles that will give the brew the texture.
I drink my coffee mainly as-is kasi but I do make milky drinks from time-to-time.
OP where Ka nabili ng dark roast mo?
grind finer
The first time I saw a mole pot, as someone from the UK, was at a campsite in Pisa. I has no idea what it was and my first thought was "that's a strange looking kettle, how am I going to make my tea?!". Turns out I had missed out and never bothered to find out what it was.
Fast forward 10 years and I found myself getting into Moka Pot brewing after having bought an espresso machine. I was after a way to brew a good coffee on the road.
I've experimented with measuring dosages and yields, but I now just use freshly ground from a local roasters in the basket being consistent and distributing like with the espresso portafilter.
The whole process is extremely satisfying, and I always get a fantastic coffee.
Here is small free gift it's a list of all the coffee roasters I have found from England, Ireland and Scotland
https://hypernotepad.com/n/a45499660c176dfa
Amazing thank you 😊 My local is Method in Worcester ☕
is it this coffee roaster by any chance ?
https://methodroastery.com/
Yes, the moka pot rocks ...as you have found out!
I'm contemplating getting a small one for myself, but am a bit unsure what to get, look out for or how much to spend to get a decent one.
Bialetti, because they're got the better safety valve.
How is their manufacturing quality after they shut down production in Italy and moved to Romania?
Probably the same as ever. All of mine are new in the past couple years and have been mostly fine, though I got Bialetti to replace a 6-cup pot because of a couple casting voids (probably inconsequential since it still brewed fine, but they gave me a replacement anyway). And my steel Venus was made in China and also works just fine.
Bialetti is Italian Brand
Giannini or Alessi
I can highly recommend getting a pot made of 10/18 steel. Mine are from Ilsa and Cilio but Alessi and Gianni also have a really good reputation. The newer Bialetti pots (made in China) appear to be made of lower grade material and the pot of a friend has considerable amounts of rust on the inside, so I cannot really recommend them (the old bialetti pots are great though if you may consider to have a look on ebay)
Hello everyone, I'm not sure whether it's worth investing in a Bialetti Moka or a more affordable one from another brand. Do you think it's worth the price difference (which can be as much as €20 or ~$22)? Even more so with the induction adapter that is necessary in this case.
I have a six cup aluminum Imusa that works great, every bit the equal of my aluminum Bialettis. It's far lighter than the equivalent Bialettis, so the timing is a little different, but the coffee is excellent. I have an old 12 cup Pezzetti Italexpress pot too, but I found that size too big in general, and always have trouble with it. I don't believe it's the brand though.
Personally I’d say yes it is as it will be much easier to source spares when you need them. Also given the fact you’re using a pressurised vessel I’m more confident knowing that the safety valve works, but that ’s just me. Plus I love the little moustached fellow on Bialetti. Regarding the induction adapter there are cheaper brands on Amazon. I think I paid £9 for mine.
Well, it's true haha, just the charm of the mustache tips the scales, I agree 😂
Exactly! If in doubt follow the ‘stache.
I recently got a bialetti on Amazon and it's so much better than the cheaper brand I had
I bought a Bialetti because the spare parts are easy to find and not very expensive. They can also be adapted to certain Alessi models.
You will enjoy your MokaPot just as much from whichever one you get.
I’ve read a few things about aluminum vs stainless steel, not sure where to start.
I’d like to make espresso-strength at home but I’m nowhere near having the budget for an actual machine.
I used an aluminium Moka pot on a glass stovetop that works great! It doesn't take long to brew. In saying that, I haven't used steel on my stovetop before.
I use the steel one on my glass top just fine.
Is it an induction glass cooktop? If so, then you need stainless steel.
This is the most important question. Aluminum is possibly more traditional, but won't work on an induction stove.
As for brands, Bialetti have been in the business a long time and their moka pots have very few pieces that are easy to maintain.
I think the Bialetti Venus is stainless steel. I have a Leopold Trevi stainless steel that works well.
You can also use an induction plate under aluminum cookware, which then functions like a hot top stove.
This is important. Induction requires ferromagnetism to work, so it won't heat aluminum at all.
If your glass cooktop actually gets hot, you don't have to worry about this.
I use an aluminum Bialetti on a glass top regularly with no issues.
If you have an induction top you need to either get stainless or use an induction plate.
Otherwise it's just preference. The main advantage of stainless is that your dishwasher won't murder it if your spouse sticks it in there.
The Bialetti Venus line is your man. Or you can also get an single-serve electric version if you are feeling flush, which I did and regret.
I use a Bialleti Brikka (aluminum) on my induction stovetop with the help of a steel induction disc. I works perfectly, it is faster than on my gas stovetop. Like this this. My Brikka on the induction stovetop with the disc.
I've been looking to make something close to espresso at home without dropping a few hundred on a machine and moka pots appear to be the way to go. I've seen recommendations online for pots from biatelli but I often see in reviews that the stainless steel pots rust, or some complaint about some coating inside that's apparently not good for you etc.
A coffee community I thought would be a wiser place to ask: what's the best quality stainless steel moka pot to get?
Something any of you have used for years with zero issues, it doesn't even really need to be stainless steel. I can see there's a debate about the aluminum pots (something about Alzheimer's?), but I'm more concerned with no metal taste as it seems that this Alzheimer's claim is pretty inconclusive. The main benefit it looks like I'd get is that stainless is usually induction compatible which would help my situation out but of course there must be an adapter somewhere.
Help a caffeine addict out? :D I just wanna make some good coffee at home
EDIT: You are all fantastic!!! Thank you for the responses. I opted in for a Bialetti Moka Induction black. It will be arriving in August and I'll leave a quick update on how I feel about it after a few days. Cheers!
An aluminium Moka pot doesn't have a metal taste, and induction can be solve with a plate (or a pot).
Bialetti Venus is good quality stainless steel moka
Very flimsy and made in China. I compared and kept Bialetti - Moka Induction
But the Bialetti is aluminum
Of course best stainless steel moka pots are from... Bialetti :) For example Bialetti Venus - I have two of them. Small one (2 cups) gives me best, consistent results.
No rusting or issues.
Beside the Venus they also have a few other variants, my favorite being the Moka Induction which has the stainless steel bottom but classic octagonal top. I'd personally get one of those if I didn't already have the Venus.
I'm sure there are some other great brands out there as well, but you really can't go wrong with Bialetti.
No signs of rusting. I have accidentally burnt the gasket in one of the pots but those are easily replaceable - no issue in buying additional ones. I don't know if Bialetti changed anything in their models...
I have the Alessi and it is fantastic. I thought it was expensive when I bought it a few years ago. Now it's close to double the price. Great for induction.
I've had one (or a similar model, it's been so long they might have had a different line back then) for 13 years. I used it almost daily for about 10 years until I got an espresso machine. No signs of rust or any issues with the metal components. I even used it over a campfire a few times! I did break off part of the handle by dropping it, though.
Bialetti. That's the only answer you need. Best safety valve, easy availability of gaskets and filter screens.
We've got six pots at home now, five of which are Bialetti, and one is a two-cup Venus. It's my go-to for a little breakfast coffee.
(edit) Forgot to say more about the "coating" that some people talk about inside the stainless pot's boiler. It's not a coating, it's a sandblasted surface. It helps the water to boil more evenly and gradually by adding "nucleation sites", which are tiny irregularities where bubbles can form. Aluminum pots are naturally rough on the inside thanks to the casting process, but steel boilers need the extra sandblasting step. Smooth surfaces can allow the water to superheat by not giving an easy way to release energy through bubbling cavitation, which is why you might experience a mug of water exploding in your microwave.
(edit2) Aluminum moka pots and Alzheimer's: Someone in another thread linked to a study that talked about aluminum leaching from cookware into food. Unlike, for example, citrus drinks in metal drinking bottles (very bad), coffee in moka pots was not much of an issue. The study showed that although allowing the pot to "season" as the Italians traditionally say to do (don't scrub with strong detergent) helps block aluminum from getting into the coffee, it's already not a problem anyway because the nature of coffee itself doesn't leach aluminum like citric acid does. Even washing the pots in a dishwasher — a BIG no-no for aluminum in general — did not encourage dangerous levels of aluminum into the brew despite removing the "seasoned" protection. (I'll look for this study again and post back if/when I find it)
'sandblasted surfaces' are not sparkly.. what bialetti has is a coating (likely non stick)
(I was about to buy the venus today and I saw that, but I should have taken a picture)
I don't understand why people say it's stainless steel. Only bottom part is stainless steel.
What are some good pros of the mokka pot? Especially compared to other coffee making options. I would love to hear y’alls opinions, thanks.
They are very cheap, last a lifetime, easy to use, and when paired with the right grind setting make an excellent cup.
I love my moka pot but I haven’t bought a grinder yet. The last of my cup makes me a little sick because of the grinds. Anyone have a grinder rec? I’m sure it gets asked all the time
Baratza encore for an electric, timemore c2 for hand. Best bang for you buck on both ends
100% this. Also it takes up very little space and is very easy to use. Versus a hundred$ or thousand$ espresso machine, it cheaply get you towards a concentrated espresso-like cup.
I like not needing to use a paper filter.
Cheapest option but makes great coffee, you'll probably live all your life with just one and it's quick and simple to use. Every house should have one.
It produces the best cup from my current beans - Counter Culture Concepcion Huista - beating out v60, kalita 185 & 55, chemex, and FP.
You can drink it super strong like espresso, add hot water for an americano, pour it over ice, add some cream without losing all it's edge. Very versatile.
Given the right beans, they make good intense coffee that really brings out the intended flavours and notes, reminiscent of a good espresso, and it pretty much works every time once you get the right grind size.
I find some beans just don't seem to work well no matter what you try though, even though they come out great in a pour over.
best moka pot
Key Considerations for Choosing the Best Moka Pot
Material:
Size:
Design and Build Quality:
Brewing Time:
Ease of Cleaning:
Recommendations:
Bialetti Moka Express: This is the classic choice and a favorite among coffee enthusiasts. It’s made of aluminum, available in various sizes, and known for its reliable performance and iconic design.
Stovetop Moka Pot by Cuisinox: If you prefer stainless steel, this option is durable, induction-compatible, and has a sleek design. It offers excellent heat distribution and is easy to clean.
Alessi Moka Express: For a more stylish option, this designer moka pot combines aesthetics with functionality, making it a great conversation piece in addition to brewing coffee.
Takeaway: Your choice will depend on your material preference (aluminum vs. stainless steel), the size you need, and whether you value design aesthetics. The Bialetti Moka Express is a great starting point for most users due to its balance of quality and price.
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