Initial Purchase Price vs. On-Road Price
When calculating resale value, it's important to consider the official on-road price rather than the discounted purchase price. Discounts are typically not factored into resale calculations unless they were significant and widespread for a long time [1:2]. The resale value is influenced by various factors including the age of the vehicle, odometer reading, and overall condition
[1:1].
Demand and Reliability
Resale value can be an indicator of demand and reliability. Cars with known issues or poor reliability tend to have lower resale values [2:1]. Conversely, cars that maintain high demand and have a reputation for reliability often retain their value better over time. For some buyers, resale value is not a priority if they plan to keep the car until it has little remaining value
[2:3].
Major Factors Leading to Value Drops
Several factors can lead to significant drops in car value. High mileage, accidents, and aftermarket modifications are common reasons [3:7]
[3:8]. Additionally, rebuilt or salvaged titles can decrease a car's value by 30-40% compared to clean titles
[3:1]. Smoking in a car can also permanently damage its interior and reduce its resale value
[3:5].
Market Fluctuations and Selling Platforms
Car resale values can fluctuate due to market conditions and algorithms used by online selling platforms. Offers from companies like Carvana can vary dramatically over short periods [4:1]. It's advisable to check multiple sources and possibly use different accounts or devices to get varied quotes
[4:4]
[4:5].
Location and Registration
The location where a car is registered can affect its resale value. Different regions may have varying demand for certain models, affecting the price range [5:2]. Additionally, re-registration charges should be considered when selling a car across state lines
[5:5].
In summary, understanding these factors can help you make informed decisions about buying, selling, or maintaining your vehicle to maximize its resale value.
When calculating the approx resale value of a car a few years down the road, should we consider the official on-road price of the car in the state or the price we purchase it for (with discounts)?
Say I’m getting an i20 worth 11L for 10L on-road. When determining its resale price what should we consider as the starting value?
Trying to understand this to evaluate getting a new car with discounts vs a used-but-relatively-new car.
Resale depends on the demand for the car, age, odo reading and overall condition of the car. Discounts seldom makes a difference unless it's a deep discounted model for a long time. Eg. The latest skoda superb introduced ar 58L wqs soon available with huge discounts. For such cases discounts also will be a factor during evaluation
Usually there's an 'unofficial' ballpark value for a car in a specific region. There will not be big deviation form this no matter how good the car is (this will be less significant as the car ages). Example, my 12 year old Honda City fetched 3.4L when sold. It wqs a very well maintained xar. An average maintained example would have fetched 3.25 or 3.3.
The age is a big factor in valuation. If it's a 2-3 year old example, then even the trim variant will play a favtor. The same car when 10years old will fetch more or less the same price for the base amd top model. There could be exceptions od course
Thanks for the detailed insights! This helps a lot!
On road price + odo reading + condition of car + accident history + any major repairs/replacement + depreciation = value of your car
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Resale value is calculated on mixed factors like on road price,Age of the vehicle,odometer reading ,Car conditionand supply and demand.
Of course all these factor into the resale value. As for the on-road price, it would be the official pricing that’s publicly available, and not what we actually would have bought it for, right?
Yes it would be official pricing.Discounts wouldn't be included in it. But the other parameter ( supply and demand ) depends on how much value this car holds in market.
You can also use cars24 estimation to get a range and then add some top up amount to that , as usually these companies like cars24,spinny give less amount to get actual value of vehicle.
Since reading these subs I see many people mention resale value as a coveted feature. I may see it mentioned even more than the importance of reliability. Is this from a lease mindset? Personally I don’t really care about resale value because I like to keep my cars until all the value is used up. Lol. Maybe I’m missing something though.
It's not even a consideration.
Treat cars like a sunk cost, not investments. If you can only afford the car because you can sell it for a decent amount after a few years which makes your monthly cost of ownership go down, you can't afford it.
In reality it’s not even on my radar since I keep cars till their almost dead but it’s a good indicator of long term quality.
Bottom of my list. I buy Toyotas and keep them a long time.
#7, not that important
Resale value is usually not random. It’s an indication of either how much the car was discounted new or that the car has terrible reliability as it ages or known problems that happen outside of the warranty window (Hyundai/Kai engines, electrical issues in luxury cars, Nisssan CVTs, etc). If it’s the first reason I don’t care, I do care about the second one.
When pricing used cars, what typically causes the biggest drops in value? How well it drives? How many miles it has? Exterior body defects? Interior defects?
Expensive repairs, like Maserati
A dealership I worked for did not want to take any trades that were smoked in.
People who smoke in their cars are on a different level. It permanently ruins the car. They have no clue how disgusting they are and the interior is always gross.
We rented a house out and all the tenants smoked in it, despite saying they didn't smoke at all. When we sold it we had to repaint the entire house and run a professional deodorizing machine for a month, before viewers stopped complaining about the smell.
People's perception.
Driving off the sales lot…..
Accidents.
This, plus rebuilt or salvaged titles. A rebuilt title is generally worth 30-40% less than the same car clean.
High mileage and aftermarket modifications also.
Trade in value on my car dropped from $15.6k to $12.6k in one month😭 is that normal!? The cars condition hasn't changed and I'm getting higher offers from other websites but carvana has some vehicles I'm interested in haha
It’s pretty much an algorithm, but I can say Carvana is typically higher than the others. But when you see an offer jump on it. I think you can use a new email and get a different offer as well? I ran one for my GF last month, she also ran one, mine was $1000 more and we ran them the same time. The last car I sold them was 5k more than everybody else so I jumped on it.
My tacoma 2020 tacoma they offered me 15k in Jan. This month theyre offering me 21k. Its getting picked up tomorrow
Try doing it from a different account or with a cleared cache. I did this once not realizing I was logged into an old account and both offers were different. Worth a shot :)
Different account, different device, and even switch your IP address (easiest by turning off ur WiFi if u have internet on ur phone). All things the computuuurrsss match when deciding if you’re a duplicate account. What a time to be alive, right?
Try again in a few days. Sometimes it’ll spit out something different/better.
I still get email quotes for my car I got a quote on from Carvana almost a year ago, it goes up and down quite dramatically. Also, I ended up selling it via Craigslist and got $3-4k more than the Carvana quote.
Hi I drive 2017 model Grand i10 diesel Magna Variant Haryana registered in Mumbai and need to sell same.
What should be good resale value as very varied ranges given on OLX
ODO done 1.22 Lakhs KMs 2nd Owner Front Tyres Changed and Major Service done at 1.18L KMs
Also how can i figure out re registration charges if I sell car to someone in Mumbai
Price could be 2.51L to 2.6L. Registration charges will be extra
Anywhere between 2.75-3.5 lakhs.
About 2L
Get it valued by tru value
I am considering either myvi or saga. But I am leaning more to saga. But older people around me mention depreciation and resell value. The thing is, does it really matter for your first car? How's your thought especially for those on 2nd or 3rd car?
If you plan to keep it long term no. Sell in 3-5 years to upgrade yes.
agreed, also depends in your socio-economic background too. If you are B40-M40, you have no business on upgrading cars every 3-5 years, drive it till it dies. If you earn at least 7-15k, have an excess disposable income of more than 2k after savings, congrats you are in the T20, now this is when upgrading cars becomes a hobby.
I second this.
This is the right answer
i mean all cars depreciate right as they leave the dealership lot, it happens. I wouldn’t mind really, in the long run , you’ll have peace of mind.
don’t jump to expensive car as first car, practice delayed gratification, settle for a cheap one like u mention and then in 9-10 years when you are in a different place in life based on ur financial upgrade ur car if u want.
Agree.. It's like edging for 30 mins and then climax. Rmb that you are getting a car not to race but to go to work. It is merely a tool to enable you to carry on with your life.
If there is financial capacity to upgrade later on, good for you. But car ownership shouldn't be dragging you down, I.e. Having to commit to significant monthly installments
This one is really up to you based on your long term preferences and how long you plan to keep your car.
Perodua has insane resell value compared to Proton. But Proton cars are much better to drive and keep for long run. You can buy a Myvi now and sell it off 5 years later. You will get an extra 10k compared to similar Proton cars.
I know this will be a hot take on this sub, right up there with suggesting a Yaris GR is not the single greatest car for driving around the Nurburgring, but I can honestly say that amongst all the vehicles I've bought over the years, not once have I ever considered resale value when it comes to making a purchase choice.
I select a vehicle for what it can do for me now, how it looks, drives, servicing costs etc. Maybe it's because cars are a depreciating asset so I write it all off in my head straight away. Sure, getting money back when you sell it is good, but I'm not going to choose a Toyota whitegood over something I like the look of/something that drives better just because in 5 years I might get $1000 more for it.
Maybe I"m built different, but I can't be the only one, right?
You are absolutely not the only one. I laugh inside when people put so much weight on what someone else will pay for their car in so many years time.
I also own my cars for 10+ years so the depreciation is so high it doesn't really matter in the end. Trade the fucker in and be done with it.
Depreciation only matters if you treat a car as disposable replacing every 3 to 5 years because you're compelled to think you must always have the latest and greatest and also barely drive anyway.
Partners car is 5 years old now, but done 180 thousand KMs, so depreciation is high regardless, and we'll probably drive it another two before trade in.
I’ll probably change cars more frequent then that, but they’re never newer or great 🤣
I’m sure many more out there like me who just enjoy driving something different after a while
Yeah, I have been looking at getting a new car for a while and was having a look at the kia sportage and a had a friend go on about how in 8 or so years when I sell it, it won't be worth shit compared to a rav 4. But the rav 4 honestly didn't interest me, the interior seems pretty dated compared to the sportage which felt like a spaceship
Covid gave people the false idea of resale. You buy a Rav4 Hybrid in 2020 after a 14month waitlist and now its worth $10k more.
Those days are gone and we're back to normal.
Yeah but people haven't woken up yet, every dickhead selling a car on market place still think their 10+ year old car is worth 6k less than a brand new car lol
I don’t sell my cars.
Resale value is at the very bottom of my list. What matters is if said cars give me joy. Which they all do.
100%. I buy it for me. Never regretted the decision to actually be driving a car and spec I like.
Just another purchase for me as well, when you go buy clothing, games, a big TV and furniture you aren't thinking how much can you get from it in 4 years time. I also buy to last, if I'm getting a car I'm probably gonna have it for another 6 or 7 years maybe more if its a newer model,
100%. Performance and enjoyment matter more than potential future dollars. Practical choices are overrated when you love what you drive.
Dude, I've bought multiple French and Italian cars. I see your depreciation and I raise you. But you can't help what you love.
Oh I had one of those too. 1987 900 Aero that was a real pain in the arse. I only lost about $1500 on that one, then again, that was 50% of its value 😅
Considering selling my car but how do I know how much it would sell for?
Look up the same car, same year and mileage, or as close as you can find, and see what they're being priced at
You'll likely get more by selling privately compared with a trade in. But be realistic with what you are asking.
Check what your car is worth as a trade in. Anything you get more than that is a bonus.
Sadly you'll also have to deal with tyre kickers and time wasters.
Also be honest with people. If they ask if there are any defects and you tell them it's perfect only for them to travel to look at your car and see holes due to rust, then you deserve a slap.
It’s dog eat dog. Sold as seen. You want to upsell what you have. Answer questions honestly but if they don’t ask the right questions that’s on them.
Put it through we buy any car, see what they say and add about 20%.
2 tips though.
Is that accurate?😭 apparently it's only worth £2k lol
WBAC qouted me £6250 last week for mine.
AutotraderNI quoted £5250.
Traded it in with a main dealer and got £6K but YMMV. As someone else pointed out, saves having to deal with tire kickers (and in my case boy racers).
It's a guide anyway. The issue with comparing to other listings is that they include a warranty and finance facilities etc, you aren't offering any of those so you aren't going to get that price.
Last time I sold a vehicle privately it was a motorbike and by god that was a horrible process.
Endless texts and emails asking if I'd take offers for about half the listed price. People negotiating normally online then turning up to a viewing with less money hoping I'd just give in and let them have it. I had a guy turn up and ask for a test ride but he refused to leave the money with me 'in case I ran away with it', he didn't see the irony of that statement. And there was another who asked me to run the engine then pretended he could hear a whole load of issues that would cost him lots of money to fix and he would be glad to take it off my hands for scrap value (he didn't like it when I showed him the service logbook that showed it had been in for it's major service literally the week before).
NI is full of fucking chancers. I'd sooner set my car on fire than try to sell it privately.
I'd say much more than 20% they take the piss.
Check auto trader etc to see how much a similar car is selling for.
The most effective way is to get online and search up used cars for sale in your area of similar make, model, year, and km, and see what they're selling for.
Hey guys. Im really looking forward to buying my first car with a budget of 10L. But really whether i should buy a Brand new car for 10L or should buy a Higer model of some brand as Second hand car. After extensive research there are some good cars in the 10L range no doubt, but on the CARS24 & SPINNY(In Bangalore) marketplaces i found some really Top end versions of some brands at the same Price range. If you guys could help me out in this by giving some pointers and advice, would greatly appreciate.
Get a baleno or swift drive it like hell switch in a year or two. You will get your hand clean on car. And then get a bigger segment car
This. Buy an inexpensive second hand. Getting used to Indian traffic will involve bumps and scrapes. It is more a question of when than if. Once you get comfortable driving then think about upgrading. By then these manufacturers would hopefully have flex fuel cars on the market
For a first time buyer, buy a second hand Maruti car with a manual transmission. You will learn a lot of basics with a Maruti car and it's a bulletproof engine which can a take a lot of abuse. After which you can upgrade to a bigger car.
Both choices are fine.
A used car is a better idea if you’re new to driving, you won’t be too scared of making a mistake and scratching the car. But if you’re buying a used car you should have a lower budget because you may want to switch to a new car after 3-5 years.
If you’re decently confident about your driving skills then a new car will be completely fine.
If you decide to go the used car route, then you should be aware that cars from Spinny/Cars24 are usually overpriced by quite a bit to account for their profit margins. The best deals are available when buying directly from a seller, but you will need to do the extra effort to get the car thoroughly checked from a mechanic or service centre.
Do you have any suggestions for where i can buy second hand cars directly from the sellers?
Know the actual fair value of the car, by checking out similar cars for sale on sites like CarWale. It has a wide collection of used cars that are for sale by location. They even have a “Fair price meter”.
Get the service centre records of the car you are looking at for any accident damage. If there are no service centre records, it might be better to skip it.
When you’re happy with the details and price, get the car checked by a mechanic or a service centre. Pay them to do a proper inspection of the car.
Don't buy a petrol car because of ethanol blending, my suggestion to you is to buy a Brezza or Urban cruiser diesel second hand. Diesel blending isn't happening because truck drivers will go on strike and bring the country to its knees. Brezza is a Maruti and maruti means reliability and inexpensive service. Brezza is 4* safety rated. Other option is a S cross diesel 1.3. same engine as Brezza with more space.
There are reports of DIESEL blending too you know, they are doing trails for Diesel blending with isobutanol(used as solvents in paint). But hopefully it would be long before they implement it
It is literally impossible for the government to blend diesel. Isobutanol is twice as expensive to make than ethanol because first you have to make ethanol and then convert it to isobutanol. Govt is already saying ethanol is expensive lol. If they increase price or mileage decreases then the truck drivers will go on strike. Every physical thing you buy is transported by diesel trucks. When they go on strike, prices of everything will skyrocket. There is literally no way they can blend isobutanol without making the country collapse. https://infra.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/aviation/oil-ministry-says-ethanol-blended-fuel-cant-be-cheaper-as-costs-surpass-petrol/123271670 Truck drivers had gone on strike last year because of hit and run law and prices skyrocketed. The government put that law on hold and forgot about it. https://www.fr8.in/blog/hit-and-run-new-law/#:~:text=The%20hit%20and%20run%20protests,for%20hit%20and%20run%20accidents. Truck drivers can bring this country's economy down to it's knees if anything happens to diesel.
The government had a bio diesel policy. VRL logistics, the biggest transpoter in India's total fuel consumption in 2021 had 28% of it being bio diesel but in 2022-2023 out of total fuel consumed it was only 6%. Actual bio diesel blend is good for diesel vehicles. Keeping a constant supply of bio diesel is hard. It was cheaper by ₹3-4 and didn't affect how trucks performed but there wasn't enough supply to fulfill the demands and this policy failed. The man's family has loads of sugar refineries and needs to make his molasses waste profitable so he's doing this ethanol blending. I bet he said blend ethanol directly in diesel but unfortunately for him it's chemically not possible to blend ethanol into diesel straight up. You have to add additives or convert it into isobutanol. Isobutanol is twice as expensive as ethanol, if he successfully blends 10% isobutanol and keeps diesel prices the same then there's definitely something fishy because they've put out a statement that ethanol is more expensive than petrol. In the end the truck lobby will go on strike if this blend damages engine , reduces mileage and performance and bring the economy to its knees just like they did last year for that hit and run law protest. If they bring in actual bio diesel blend from used cooking oil or algae then everyone would be happy apart from sugar refinery owners.
Or you can buy a CNG and avoid running in in petrol mode.
Get a second hand Alto with manual transmission for a fraction of your budget. Keep the remaining money in an SIP. Ride the car well for 2-3 years and learn driving hands on, then sell it and get a nice big car thanks to the SIP.
Not saying this isn’t a cliche here in India but I wish someone had given me the same advice 8 years ago.
Anyone know car insurers offering market value policies now.
There always used to be a choice but last renewal I could only find agreed value policies, all of which have values significantly lower than current market values. Feels like they’re only allowing us to insure 80% of the car value.
Who are you looking at? I just insured agreed value that was a few $k above the highest dreamer on carsales
Most insurers offer both types. It may also depend on the type of car and how much cover is and other factors..
I just insured a new EV and these all offered market value policies: AAMI, AHM, Australia Post, Beyond Bank, Bingle, Budget Direct, BUPA, CBA, Coles, GIO, Huddle, ING, NAB, NRMA, Oceania, Ozicar, People's Choice, Qantas, QBE, Suncorp, Virgin Money, Westpac and Youi. (Yes, I have a spreadsheet, Yes, I get a lot of quotes.)
Nice to know I’m not the only crazy getting that many insurance quotes.
I would almost always take agreed value above market value. Market value is just a way for them to argue you deserve less
RACQ offers both options.
With my car I've always used agreed value, until recently agreed options were far lower than the actual value of the car.
They would not increase the agreed value one company that called me even agreed after checking online that replacement was not possible with the agreed value Max they offered.
So now its market value, that I've currently got but that will possibly change when its time to renew.
factors affecting car resale value
Key Factors Affecting Car Resale Value
Make and Model: Certain brands and models hold their value better than others. Luxury brands tend to depreciate faster, while reliable brands like Toyota and Honda often retain value.
Mileage: Lower mileage typically increases resale value. Cars with high mileage may be seen as more worn and may require more maintenance.
Condition: The overall condition of the car, including the exterior, interior, and mechanical components, significantly impacts resale value. Regular maintenance and repairs can help maintain a car's condition.
Age: Generally, newer cars depreciate faster in the first few years. After about 5 years, the rate of depreciation slows down, and the car may hold its value better.
Market Demand: The demand for specific types of vehicles can fluctuate. For example, SUVs and trucks may be more desirable in certain markets, affecting resale value.
Color and Features: Popular colors (like white, black, or silver) and desirable features (like advanced safety technology or infotainment systems) can enhance resale value.
Accident History: A car with a clean accident history is more appealing to buyers. Accidents can significantly reduce a car's resale value.
Service History: A well-documented service history showing regular maintenance can reassure buyers and positively impact resale value.
Recommendation: To maximize your car's resale value, keep it well-maintained, limit mileage, and consider selling it before it reaches 5 years old. Additionally, be mindful of market trends and demand for specific vehicle types in your area.
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