TL;DR
Disassembling Switches
Lubing keyboard switches typically requires disassembling them. This process involves taking apart each switch to access the internal components that need lubrication [1:9]. While it might seem intimidating at first, following detailed guides can make the process straightforward
[3:1]. If you're uncomfortable doing this yourself, you can hire someone from communities like r/mechmarket to do it for you
[3:2].
Choosing the Right Lubricant
Selecting the right lubricant is crucial for achieving the desired feel and sound of your keyboard switches. Krytox 205g0 is a popular choice for lubing stems and housings, while Krytox 105 is recommended for springs [5:5]. It's important to avoid over-lubing, which can be prevented by carefully applying the lubricant with a brush
[5:1].
Benefits of Lubing
Lubing switches can significantly improve their feel and sound. Many users report that lubed switches feel smoother and less scratchy compared to unlubed ones [4:1]
[4:4]. For certain switches like NK Creams, lubing is considered essential due to their initial scratchiness
[4:4]. However, if you're satisfied with your current setup, lubing might not be necessary
[4:2].
Resources and Guides
There are numerous resources available online that provide step-by-step instructions on how to lube switches effectively. Some recommended guides include those by Top Clack, Nathan Kim, and krelbit [1:1]. Additionally, video tutorials can offer visual guidance on the lubing process
[3:8].
Considerations Beyond the Discussions
While lubing switches can enhance your keyboard experience, it's essential to weigh the time and effort involved against the benefits. If you're new to mechanical keyboards, starting with lubing stabilizers might be a simpler introduction to the process [4:5]. Also, ensure you have the necessary tools and materials before beginning, such as a good quality brush and the appropriate lubricants.
Great summary for those who are new and coming into the scene and interested in lubing their stuff. It can get kind of confusing for most of the newer people trying to shuffle through all of the currently available videos to the keyboard science so a post that kind of gathers all of the information together in a well put manner is welcome. Great work, saved for future references in the case someone ever asks about lube! :)
Thank you for the kind words and I’m glad it has come across to you for exactly what I had intended!
Not even 10 minutes later I've used this article already! Thank you kindly again. It's very useful.
Though I think you can definitely explain more about the various grades of krytox. It was brushed over quickly, but I do think it's important to note futher in a chart or a visual representation since I feel like many users try to source their own krytox from their own vendors not listed on your post, but more often than not they end up buying grade 2 (I believe g2 is the standard grade krytox lubes come in, but correct me if I'm wrong.) I know I went through the same issue in my early stages of lube research where I was shuffling through a bunch of posts about lubes and didn't figure it out until I messaged krelbit himself also. Other than that, I still think that having a cohesive two or so paragraphs that describe what the various numbers mean is very helpful. So great job with that!
I would also keep an eyeball out for NK's new lube coming out (Christo-Lube MCG 112)! I'm not sure how it'll turn out but it seems like it could be another lube to add to the list :)
Again, thank you for your knowledge and dedication in consolidating all of this information. Haha you know I'll be abusing this by posting it everywhere :)
I hope that this guide has helped to make some sense of the various choices available to our community today but it’s far from perfect or complete. If you have any feedback, criticisms, or ideas please comment below or PM me!
Do how does one lube a switch? Do you need to take it apart to do so (I would assume this is a yes)?
I’m pretty new to the hobby and will have Holy pandas and Sakurios coming in later this year, but I’ve never lubed switches before
Yes, you need to take them apart.
can I use WD40 ?
As always, good stuff! Only thing I may disagree with is the wood/oil/paint analogy.
Saved for future reference!
Thank you! I’m curious, what didn’t you agree with in my analogy? Maybe I can use a better analogy if you have a suggestion.
Well, both oil and paint are used to protect wood from wear. Neither are used to deal with imperfections. That is handled with sanding and wood filler, or patches/inlays in extreme situations.
In the case of finishing oil, one always uses a hardening oil (e.g. linseed or walnut) and again, the purpose is to protect the wood from water and minor damage. It's nice that oil brings out the grain of certain hardwoods, but I don't think that's the principle reason for oiling. As it stands, anyone with woodworking experience may be uncomfortable with the analogy, and anyone without experience won't know enough about wood finishing to understand what you're getting at.
After rereading those paragraphs, I think I understand what you were going for. But you made your points very clearly in the following paragraphs, and I don't think you need an analogy for additional clarification.
Thank you for this excellent collection of relevant information. My only suggestion would be to provide links to some of the other resources available on the actual process of brush lubing stems like you did for the lube vendors. For instance, these are the ones I used most recently when getting into lubing for the first time myself.
I know I have come across at least one other detailed guid on one of the forums that was useful in the past but I’m currently on mobile and can’t seem to dig it up easily.
A friend made this comprehensive switch lubrication guide. It's a bit different than the typical tutorial, because it explains how each major switch type functions, identifies the points of friction, and then takes an interesting algorithmic approach to the process. The switch components are divided into zones and the guide explains what lubing each zone does. This way, you can figure out the best lubrication strategy based on your preferences. Worth checking out if you plan on lubing switches anytime soon.
https://www.maketecheasier.com/how-to-lubricate-keyboard-switches/
Did you find it or did a friend make it? Your previous post (which I had already saved to use later) suggests you came across it while looking for guides.
In any case, at a quick glance this appears to be a useful resource. I'll save this post again.
A friend made it. I deleted the old one as it was not right.
I'm a total noob to mech keyboards. I'm considering a kdb67 board with zilents v2 67g switches. Are lubing switches fairly simple?
I really want the zilent switches based on the research I've done but frankly, I feel a little intimidated by taking the switches apart out of fear of messing something up.
if you feel uncomfortable lubing, you can get someone to do it for you on r/mechmarket
Super simple, follow any lubing guide out there and remember to avoid the stem legs if you want to keep the tactility of the switch.
What's a reliable online store to buy the lube?
The there pack from switchmods is great.
Depends where you are located.
If in the US
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Here's a great guide! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSgPKPoFo2k There are other guides out there so just do a quick search on youtube.
I'll watch the video. Thanks!
I'm new to custom keyboards and looking to make a build (using NK Creams), wondering whether it's actually worth me lubing switches. It seems to take a while even though I'm going to build a 60%. It's hot swap so I'm not worried about soldering and I'm a casual gamer so not the person to spend hours for having 2 milliseconds less of response time and my headphones will mostly be blocking out the sound.
Also, if I should lube them what lube do you recommend?
It depends. If you're already satisfied with the sound and feel of your switches and can't be bothered to spend money on lube, open each switch up and lube them all by hand then it's probably not worth it.
Ok, thanks
You should 100% lube NK Creams
NK creams NEED to be lubes (dw i was in ur shoes) the differrence between unlubed and lubed is astronomical.
At the very minimum lube your stabilizers
Well, most people lube their switches not only for the sound but also cause it makes most switches feel way better (less scratchy and stuff). However, from what I’ve seen, a lot of people tend to lube NK Creams after 1-3 months of use since they are trying to break-in them before lubing (they are supposedly very scratchy in the first few months), that way they will be even smoother. If you want to lube or not, is up to you but, in general, it just makes things better. If you decide to lube them, the popular option for linears, like NK Creams, is Krytox 205g0 which is pretty easy to find on basically any keeb vendor.
Ok, thanks for the advice
Does desoldering the switch every time mean having to reinstall the diodes every time if I install the KinT mod?
you don't need to desolder any switches to install the kint controller. The key wells are connected by ribbon cables. You install sockets on the kint controller.
The thumb clusters are generally connected by some wire bundles that you will have to desolder but those connections are soldered to normal pcb and so much easier to desolder.
I mean if I solder im new switches with their new diodes do I need to desolder everything in order to take them out and lube them including the diodes themselves?
Best to desolder and if you don't know how to do that then send it in to upgrade keyboards and they can do it for you.
what lube or lubing kit do you recommend for a beginner? I already have a soldering kit but I've only used it to replace and fix led kits
Krytox 205g0 for lubing stems and housings + krytox105 for lubing springs
It’s “a” way, but will over lube.
Best results from desoldering and disassembling each switch
thanks but I'll stick to this then, first timer though.
the advantage is especially terrible to fully disassemble. desoldering the flex pcb carries risk, the switches in the main wells are hotglued in. Honestly I commend the shortcut here.
You shouldn’t need to relube for years. Most boards are soldered and people don’t desolder to relube switches. It’s a once and done thing. I’ve used the same board for work for 10 months and it’s as smooth as the first day I lubed it.
I'm a firm believer that lubing switches is well worth the time -- it makes a world of a difference that I now can't come back from.
I suppose in that sense, it's important to understand what that difference could entail for you. I always compared it to a 60 vs 144hz monitor -- those who upgrade swear to themselves that they could never go back. Not to scare you out of lubing, of course, but this could very well be you too, and it'll be difficult to ever go back to typing on unlubed switches if you happened to find yourself in the position again.
lubing the switches makes a good difference but its the kinda thing once you do there is no going back
Thanks
so i shouldn't do it then? I'm not prepared to put in 40+ min to do manual tedious labour.
I've found myself relubing every 6 months if I use the same board, I use my keyboard to work every day, I'm guessing it will depend on how often you use your keyboard. Some people don't relube at all. Some people do it once a year, you'll have to find your sweet spot if you ever feel like relubing.
I lubed the Kailh Box Browns on my Moonlander and I absolutely love it. There's no going back, that's for sure!
Yes! Once you lube switches, you'll never want unlubed boards again
Thanks!
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Throw on a movie or show and bang em out. Definitely worth the time. If you're going to invest a few hundred in a keyboard you might as well do it right, ya know?
Thanks for the tip!
tmrw i'm lubing my switches for the first time and some advice would be great.
(I have seen nathan's video and I know how to lube a switch... I just want to know the fastest way)
I think the fastest way is to do several switches at once, I’m using the 3d printed bracket from novelkeys switchtester. Then I lube 25 housings and place them in the tester, then do 25 springs and 25 stems. Then I get the satisfaction of closing 25 switches. I think that way I’m faster than doing 25 times housing->spring->stem, but might be imagination.
Otherwise lube in smaller batches and do them while watching TV or something else where you’re usually semi-afk. Like the other comments already said, don’t rush your lube job and pay with inconsistent switches. I screwed up my right shift holy panda and it haunts me in my dreams. You won’t forget this single switch which is slightly less tactile because you made a mistake while rushing the last few switches.
thanks bro i have the novel keys tester and never thought about using it
It's honestly better to take your time if you're lubing switches for the first time. If you prioritize speed the first time you're lubing your switches, then you're gonna mess them up and have a bad typing experience. Speed comes with practice.
thanks for the advice
It is faster doing all switches at once (all housings -> all springs -> all stems) than doing one by one. Other than that, do it properly and don't rush for your first time :) good luck
thanks bro
you always can hire someone to do the lube job for you :)
I'm not sure if you can really get much faster than that unless you're willing to sacrifice the consistency/quality of your lube job. If it's the hassle you're looking to avoid instead of the actual time spent on lubing, I hear bag lubing is actually not a bad option. I think you have to let the parts sit in the lube for a good amount of time but at least it lets you avoid brushing for hours on end.
If you're insistent on using a brush, the only thing I can recommend is working as though you're in an assembly line. Disassemble all the switches and work on one group of components until they're all done. So maybe you can start by finishing all the stems, then moving on to the springs, then the bottom housings. This really helps with maximizing speed/consistency and it'll also help with organization. With that said, it'll take a couple of hours either way (especially since this is your first time), so fire up a podcast or a show you've been meaning to catch up on, and hunker down.
thanks a lot this is what I was looking for
Literally nothing. Trust, I've tried.
Use switch lube. If you use anything else you’re going to have a bad time. A £10 investment in some Krytox 205g0 and a couple of decent brushes will last you a good while in this hobby. Keycrox, Mechmods, Serpentkeys and Mechboards are all reputable UK vendors. Otherwise join the MKUK discord which is a great source of information and full of helpful individuals who might help you out.
Hey everyone, I think I fully understand how to lube and modify stems, but it seems like when it comes down to lubing switches things get a bit more involved. So I was wondering since I couldn't find a definite answer anywhere, what kind of lube would I buy for tactile or silent tactile switches (specifically Outemu skies or Aliaz silents)? And should I lube them any differently than other types of switches? Also, what other tips would you guys recommend for improving overall typing sound and quality? Thanks!
I've lubed tactiles with 3203 with good results. I would recommend not lubing the front legs though. Most stock tactile switches have a bit of oil on the front legs, and in most cases that is enough. If you want to reduce the tactility a bit, you can try using a very small amount of lube here though.
General idea - for linears you should lube every contact point. Tactiles are the same, but leave the front legs as-is.
Thick lube for linears and thin for tactile.
As far as how much, I've found more success in some decently heavy lubing on linears, where as with tactiles less is more.
As said previously, Tribosys 3203 and 3204 are great thins lubes, where as a Krytox 205 is going to satisfy any need for a thick lube, even as far as stabilizers go as well.
Also lube the legs of linears, keep tactiles legs clear for the bump.
Can I just use my 10W30 motor oil? Will that suffice?
Watch this video, by Krelbit.
Will check it out thank you
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