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Solving Matrix Equations

Understanding Matrix Equations

Matrix equations often involve systems of linear equations that can be expressed in matrix form. For example, a system of equations can be represented as A*X = B, where A is the matrix of coefficients, X is the vector of variables, and B is the vector of constants [1:2]. Understanding how to manipulate matrices and perform operations like row reduction is crucial for solving these equations [1:1].

Row Reduction Techniques

One common method for solving matrix equations is using row reduction techniques, such as Gaussian elimination or Gauss-Jordan elimination. These methods involve performing row operations to simplify the augmented matrix and solve for the unknowns [3:1]. It's important to be familiar with these techniques and practice them to become proficient [1].

Sylvester Equation

In some cases, matrix equations can take the form of a Sylvester equation, which is a specific type of matrix equation AX = XB. Solving this requires specialized techniques and understanding of matrix algebra [2:3]. Direct rearrangement to isolate X on one side is not possible; instead, exploring mathematical properties and solutions specific to Sylvester equations is necessary [2:2].

Handling Large Systems

For large systems of equations, especially when using software like MATLAB, it's often more efficient to work directly with matrices rather than attempting to solve manually. MATLAB is optimized for matrix operations, and using built-in functions can save time and reduce errors [4:2][4:5]. Functions like vpasolve() or utilizing symbolic toolboxes can help automate the process [4:6].

Unique vs. Multiple Solutions

When solving matrix equations, it's essential to determine whether the system has unique solutions or multiple solutions. This depends on the number of equations relative to the number of unknowns [5:4]. If there are fewer equations than unknowns, the system may have infinitely many solutions, and additional constraints or assumptions might be needed to find a specific solution [5:5].

By understanding these concepts and techniques, you can approach matrix equations with confidence and find solutions effectively.

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Solution of equation

Posted by bakaduo · in r/askmath · 1 year ago
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Hi mathletes!

I'm really having a hard time understanding how to get the answers to this question.

I can create the augmented matrix but I'm really stuck/bad at simplifying and performing row operations. I seem to choose the wrong method and this get the wrong answer(s)

Do you have any tips or suggestions??

Thank you so much in advance!

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loicvanderwiel · 1 year ago

There's a "simple" solution but it's a bit annoying to use. A system of equation can be expressed in Matrix form (A*X=B where X is the vertical vector (1×3 here) of the variables x, y and z, A is the coefficients of x, y and z and B is everything not attached to a variable). According to Crammer, such a matrix equation has a solution if and only if the determinant of A is different of zero.

This gives us a polynomial dependent on k with roots -1 and 0. To know which one leads to impossible solutions and which one gives us a multiplicity of solutions is a bit tricky but the way I'd go about it would be to plug the values in the system and see what happens. If you plug 0 in, you'll see that equation 1 becomes the negation of equation 3 (-x + 3y +2z = 0 and x -3y -2z = 0) which means that it's redundant information and thus does not bring anything to the table. This gives us our multiplicity of solutions.

If you plug -1 in, looking at the same equations you'll notice their results are not coherent. You get -x + 3y +2z = -1 and x - 3y - 2z = 0 which is of course impossible. This gives us the answer to the first question.

The answer to the second one is literally everything else.

Another way of doing it is to do it intuitively and use the way the questions are written to your avantage. Thanks to 1 and 3 you know there's only 1 impossible value and 1 undetermined value while the rest gives you a unique solution. So try to find that.

Again, playing with equations 1 and 3 gives you the value of z(k) from which you can determine that -1 is an impossible value (leads to a division by 0). It's the simplest way to get a variable so it's not an unreasonable assumption that someone would go for that one first when solving. Additionally, intuitively, you'll see that 1 and 3 are identical aside from the presence of the addends in k. If they are set to 0, the equations are identical and 3 becomes redundant, leading to an infinity of solutions.

These two give you the answer to the second question which is everything that's not -1 and 0.

But the "proper" way to do it is to use Cramer and show that the determinant is different from 0 in all cases save -1 and 0.

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bakaduo · OP · 1 year ago

sorry for the late reply, but thank you so much for your detailed answer! That's really helped me understand the concepts a lot better!

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spiritedawayclarinet · 1 year ago

Can you show your work? I would do the row reduction with the augmented matrix. At some point, you would divide by 2k+2, so there is a special case when k = -1. At another point, you would divide by k(k+1) so there is another special case when k =0.

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Are matrix equations of this form solveable other than by brute force? [Linear Algebra]

Posted by damien_maymdien · in r/learnmath · 8 months ago

My linear algebra is very rusty, and I've hit a wall working on a recreational math problem.

Given an m×m matrix A and an n×n matrix B with known elements, and an m×n matrix X with unknown elements, is there a good way to solve the equation AX = XB?

It's a system of m*n equations with m*n unknowns, so there should be a solution for each unknown x_ij in terms of the elements of A and B. But can that equation be manipulated to put X on only one side and A and B on the other?

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hpxvzhjfgb · 8 months ago

it is not possible to solve directly by rearranging into the form X = something in terms of A and B.

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chris771277 · 8 months ago

This is a type of Sylvester equation. Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_equation?wprov=sfti1#

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fuhqueue · 8 months ago

I could be wrong here, but I’m like 75% sure that the only solution is the n × m zero matrix if no further information about A and B are given

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Need help with this linear algebra question

Posted by Adventurous-Seesaw46 · in r/askmath · 3 months ago
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Hi everyone! I'm working on a linear algebra problem involving matrix transformations and inverse operators. I’ve followed all the steps I know, but I'm stuck now, cant find a solution.

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Jcaxx_ · 3 months ago

Do you understand how to view T as a matrix? Parts a and b are just calculating the matrix products TS and ST and c is a system of 3 linear equations in 3 variables, the general solution is finding the inverse of T (there is an arguably easier one available in this case though).

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OldChertyBastard · 3 months ago

No inverse operators are needed for this question. Can you be specific with what you are stuck at?

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testtest26 · 3 months ago

What about c)?

In case the solution is unique, "Gauss-Jordan" is equivalent to finding T^(-1)...

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OldChertyBastard · 3 months ago

Agreed, but you don’t really need knowledge of inverse or calculate the inverse matrix to solve it. That’s why I say it’s not required.  But I do agree gauss Jordan is the same method, just with a different modified matrix. 

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testtest26 · 3 months ago

Let "r := [x; y; z]^T ". If "MS; MT" are the matrices of "S; T" in canonical base:

A(r)  =  (T o S)(r)  =  T(S(r))  =  MT . (MS . r)  =  (MT . MS) . r
B(r)  =  (S o T)(r)  =  S(T(r))  =  MS . (MT . r)  =  (MS . MT) . r

For c), you need to solve "[8; 9; 5]^T = T(r) = MT . r" -- can you take it from here?

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Past_Ad9675 · 3 months ago

>I’ve followed all the steps I know

Okay, can you share with us what exactly you have done?

>but I'm stuck now, cant find a solution.

What exactly are you stuck on?

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How to solve a large system of linear equations without using matrix ?

Posted by Berserker_Durjoy · in r/matlab · 3 years ago

I have a linear system of 21 equations and variables in MATLAB but I don't want to write a coefficient matrix to solve it since it's very large. Is it possible to solve the system with just the equations as input ?

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[deleted] · 3 years ago

If you rewrite the equations you'll have as much work if not more. Matlab is very optimized to work with matrices and using it as such is probably the best way to go.

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seb59 · 3 years ago

i assume you talk about z system of linear equations. Why are you reluctant to use something that should work? What would be the benefits of solving this 'manually' when a matrix form allows to handle zlmost any number of equations seamlessly?

Can your describe your problem better?

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Berserker_Durjoy · OP · 3 years ago

My system is something like this

c0=0

c1=-.5

c0+c1+c2+....c21=0 ..... ....

(157688/3447)c11+ c18+ (12442/478)c15+.....c1=48

Basically I got these equations from integration in MATLAB and now I need to solve them. The system and coefficients are huge and not arranged in order. So now have to manually create the matrix and arrange them. If I can Extract all these coefficients and constants directly from these I can get the solution from matrix.

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Ok-Reaction-6739 · 3 years ago

vpasolve() may halp you.

https://www.mathworks.com/help/symbolic/sym.vpasolve.html#bt51etx-1_2

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seb59 · 3 years ago

So do you use symbolic toolbox? If yess just use 'coeffs' to get the coefficients, it should be straightforward

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bill_klondike · 3 years ago

In the time it took to post to reddit, wait for & reply to responses, implement/test/debug proposed solutions, you could have typed up a 21x21 matrix and solved it directly. I just don’t get these kinds of questions.

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Berserker_Durjoy · OP · 3 years ago

I already did. It's not about the question it's about finding a better and easier way to do things which you completely missed.

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[Linear Algebra] I've tried to solve these systems of equations using matrices, but it's not working for some reason. Do you think there is another method I should solve this with, or I just made a mistake?

Posted by itswertyy · in r/HomeworkHelp · 1 year ago
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I will attach my solving process in the comments.

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[deleted] · 1 year ago

7 times the first equation minus the third equation equals the second equation. So, the only equation left would be r+s-2t=5, which has many possible solutions.

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KilonumSpoof · 1 year ago

You mean it equals 17 times the second equation.

Also, you are left with two linearly independent equations, not one.

But, even then, just by seeing in both cases that there are fewer equations than unknown variables already tells you that there are no unique solutions.

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[deleted] · 1 year ago

No, 7 times the first minus the third eliminates u, then dividing by the common factor equals the second. I thought I made it clear. And I understand what you are saying, I was just showing that OP's system of equations reduces to one that has many solutions, not just that it can't be solved for unique solutions.

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grebdlogr · 1 year ago

To solve for N unknowns, you need N equations.

In the first case, you have 3 equations for 4 unknowns. In the second, 3 equations for 5 unknowns.

You either need more equations or you need to decide that some of your variables are not to be considered unknowns. For example, in the first case, you could assume u is a known constant and then solve for r,s,t in terms of u.

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itswertyy · OP · 1 year ago

u/jacklope_hunter69 u/KilonumSpoof u/Alkalannar u/grebdlogr u/Party_Limit_3432 thank you for your input, now I get that there isn't a single possible solution

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itswertyy · OP · 1 year ago

How can I mark this post as answered?

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itswertyy · OP · 1 year ago

Nvm got it

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Party-Limit-3432 · 1 year ago

u=r-4

t=r/2+s/2-5/2

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Alkalannar · 1 year ago

[2 3 -6 1 | 11]
[1 1 -2 0 | 5]
[-3 4 -7 7 | -8]

[1 1 -2 0 | 5]
[0 1 -4 1 | 1]
[0 7 -13 7 | 7]

[1 0 2 -1 | 4]
[0 1 -4 1 | 1]
[0 0 15 0 | 0]

[1 0 0 -1 | 4]
[0 1 0 1 | 1]
[0 0 1 0 | 0]

r = u + 4
s = -u + 1
t = 0
u can be anything.

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[Year 12, Finite Math] How do I find the matrix equation corresponding to the system?

Posted by Byzantinople · in r/HomeworkHelp · 5 years ago
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GammaRayBurst25 · 5 years ago

Answer: Let's call the first matrix M, let's also set v=[x y]^(T) and a=[16 5]^(T)

We know that Mv=a, so M^(-1)Mv=v=M^(-1)a

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I have tried but can’t seem to solve this matrices problem, I need help

Posted by Repulsive-Spare-3749 · in r/askmath · 6 months ago

I’ve been trying to solve this Matrices problem but I’m not sure, it just doesn’t click. I keep solving and solving but the zeros keep jumping around and I never get to an answer. It feels like this goes on for infinity but I have to know how to solve it, any tips or help getting the answer ?

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testtest26 · 6 months ago

Transform columns into REF from left to right:

        -->          1  -3  2 |  -22            ->             1 -3  2 | -22
  I' =         II    0   1  9 |   18    III' = III/3 + 5*II    0  1  9 |  18
 II' =   I - 2*II    0 -15  6 | -129                           0  0 47 |  47
III' = III + 4*II

The last row yields "47z = 47", i.e. "z = 1". Insert successively into the rows above:

y  =  18 - 9z  =  9,      x  =  -22 + 3y - 2z  =  3
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testtest26 · 6 months ago

Rem.: Take a look at general Gauss-Jordan again -- we want to generate zeroes column-wise from left to right below the main diagonal. No haphazardly throughout the matrix^^

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Repulsive-Spare-3749 · OP · 6 months ago

Thank you I will check it again

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Outside_Volume_1370 · 6 months ago

It's easier to understand when you leave upper row untouched, because you need to get identity matrix, so your left upper number must not be 0.

Or rearrange your rows in that way, so after first eleimination you get

-4 -3 -2 | -41

1 - 3 2 | -22

0 -13 24 | -93

Algorithm asks you to subtract first row multiplied for some constant from second and third rows such that first elements in them become zeroes:

https://preview.redd.it/xf8efa9coyqe1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=ed54d3173ad4425a91d0ccdfb4cab224e4029c19

So we multiply it by 2 and and add to last row, then (for integer calculations) multiply second row by 2 and subtract first row from it

Now you need to do the same for second row (for example, from here you may multiply second row by 5 and subtract it from first row or multiply it by 14 and subtract it from third row)

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Repulsive-Spare-3749 · OP · 6 months ago

https://preview.redd.it/t40fdoauvyqe1.jpeg?width=3020&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=294d13f391ab28507610baadc837b201a78eeeed

I got stuck here for some reason, it’s weird, i can’t solve all other sorts of math problems but this is the 1st time I’m really stuck on something this semester

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Outside_Volume_1370 · 6 months ago

Add 13 times third row to first row, first row becomes (0, 0, 141, 141)

Then rearrange rows to get upper-triangle form and do reverse move to get the identity matrix

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Repulsive-Spare-3749 · OP · 6 months ago

Okay I think I get what you mean, I’ll retry it

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Repulsive-Spare-3749 · OP · 6 months ago

Thanks

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Some-Passenger4219 · 6 months ago

Okay, I think I get it. For your first step you added the third row to twice the first - but then you replaced the first with that sum. Because it was the first row, and not the third, that you doubled, the sum should be used to replace the third row, and not the first. Remember: Always replace a row with itself, plus a multiple of another row.

Meanwhile, DON'T scale the second row, as it already starts with a 1, which is what you want. Ultimately, your goal is that each row start with any number of zeroes (or none at all), followed by a 1. (It might help to swap the second row with the first, which is the preferred form.)

Any more questions, please ask.

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Repulsive-Spare-3749 · OP · 6 months ago

I think I get what you mean, I had re did it again but somehow I keep getting stuck , it’s intresting since I got to a point where it looks like I’m almost completing it but then I just blank out

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Some-Passenger4219 · 6 months ago

Well, did you do what I said to? If you made any progress, you should put it in your Reply, so I can see it. It should conform to what I'm talking about, including a first column of a 1 and two 0s. If the 1 isn't first, swap the rows so that it is. Remember, the row beginning with a 1 should remain untouched for the remainder of your process. You got this.

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How to solve a system of linear equations?

Posted by 8192K · in r/libreoffice · 2 months ago

I have a mathematical system of linear equations.

The coefficients for x, y and z would be (four equations)

-1    0.5  0.5
 0.5 -0.5  0.5
 0.5  0   -1
 1    1    1

first three equations should be equal to 0, last one equal to 1. The solver does not seem to be able to solve these kind of things as it requires one target cell which doesn't make sense here. Or I don't get it.

How can I solve these equations to find x, y and z? (The result should be (1/3, 1/2, 1/6).

UPDATE: I tried using MINVERSE as shown in one answer, but this matrix is not invertible (even if using only the first three equations).

UPDATE 2: I managed to use the solver the right way. See my answer below.

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8192K · OP · 2 months ago

Here's the solution which I found using Deepseek (unfortunately all formatting is gone):

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In LibreOffice Calc, you can solve a system of 4 equations with 3 variables using the Solver add-in. Here’s how to set it up step by step:

Step 1: Define Variables and Equations

Assume your system looks like this (modify as needed):

a1x+b1y+c1z=0

a2x+b2y+c2z=0

a3x+b3y+c3z=0

a4x+b4y+c4z=1

Assign cells for variables:

Let x be in A1, y in B1, z in C1 (initially empty or guessed values).

Enter the equations in cells: (Replace a1, b1, c1, ... with actual coefficients from your equations.)

Equation 1: =a1*A1 + b1*B1 + c1*C1 → Store in D1

Equation 2: =a2*A1 + b2*B1 + c2*C1 → Store in D2

Equation 3: =a3*A1 + b3*B1 + c3*C1 → Store in D3

Equation 4: =a4*A1 + b4*B1 + c4*C1 → Store in D4

Step 2: Enable and Configure Solver

Go to Tools → Solver (ensure the Solver add-in is enabled in Tools → Add-ons).

Set up Solver parameters:

Target Cell: D4 (the equation that must equal 1).

Equal To: Value of → 1.

By Changing Cells: $A$1:$C$1 (variables x, y, z).

Add Constraints:

Click Add and set:

D1 = 0

D2 = 0

D3 = 0

(This ensures the first three equations hold.)

Choose Solving Method:

For linear systems, select "Evolutionary" or "DEPS" (nonlinear solver, but works for linear cases).

Click Solve → The Solver will adjust A1, B1, C1 to satisfy all equations.

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Chris_7599 · 2 months ago

Your numbers doesn't make sense for me. I sligtly modified it to work.
a) calculate the inverse matrix of the coefficents
b) matrix multiplication with the constant vector gives you the solution to your linear equations

modified coefficent matrix --> inverse matrix with =MINVERSE($A$2:$C$4)

-1 0.5 0.5 -2 -2 0
0.5 -0.5 -0.5 -1 -3 1
0.5 0 -1 -1 -1 -1

The inverse matrix multiplied with the constant vector gives you the solution =MMULT($F$2:$H$4;D$2:D$4)

-2 -2 0 1 -4
-1 -3 1 1 -3
-1 -1 -1 1 -3
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8192K · OP · 2 months ago

My numbers are correct. The result should be 1/3, 1/2, 1/6.

I tried MINVERSE, too, but the matrix is not invertible.

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Chris_7599 · 2 months ago

Just as an extension:

If you have 3 variables and 4 equations, the system is over determined.

Furthermore the first 3 equations of your system are linear dependend:

the 3. equation is the sum of the first 2 multiplied by -1.

if you create a 3x3 matrix of equation No. 1, 2 and 4 you can calculate the inverse and get your results (1/3 1/2 and 1/6)

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Do you know how to solve a quadratic matrix equation?

Posted by EzconDude · in r/askmath · 4 years ago

Could you please help me solve this quadratic matrix equation? I look around, seems like there is no general solution for it.. $-BX^2 + X - C = 0$ where X, B and C are (3x3) matrices. B and C are matrices of constant, solve for X.

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EzconDude · OP · 4 years ago

I found a way to solve it numerically. Thanks everyone

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How to solve Matrix Problems?

Posted by Internal_Aspect_1923 · in r/learnprogramming · 2 years ago

I'm a beginner competitive coder,, and I'm finding myself stuck on questions that have "i+j" stuff, and questions with matrix,, how and from where can I learn to tackle these questions? If it's YouTube,, then what exactly should I search for?

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TheRNGuy · 2 years ago

Matrix is math. Find articles about it.

Youtube have some vids too.

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ffrkAnonymous · 2 years ago

Perhaps class in linear algebra

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_xulion · 2 years ago

Let say you want to implement A = I + J. Start with 1 dimention, you first task will be figure out:

For each index i, what will A[i] be? This is simple because A[i] = I[i] + J[i]. Then you just do a loop then you solved 1 dimention. Now you need do the same for 2 dimentions. And other operations.

For each one, your goal is simple, find out the equation of A[i][j] = ??? (A mathmatic expression using matrix I and J)

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How to solve matrix equations

Key Considerations for Solving Matrix Equations

  1. Matrix Representation: Ensure that your equations are properly represented in matrix form. A typical matrix equation looks like ( AX = B ), where ( A ) is the coefficient matrix, ( X ) is the variable matrix, and ( B ) is the constant matrix.

  2. Matrix Dimensions: Check that the dimensions of the matrices are compatible. For ( AX = B ), if ( A ) is an ( m \times n ) matrix, ( X ) must be an ( n \times p ) matrix, and ( B ) must be an ( m \times p ) matrix.

  3. Methods of Solution:

    • Inverse Method: If ( A ) is invertible, you can find ( X ) by multiplying both sides by ( A^{-1} ):
      [ X = A^{-1}B ]
    • Row Reduction: Use Gaussian elimination to reduce the augmented matrix ([A|B]) to row echelon form or reduced row echelon form, then solve for ( X ).
    • LU Decomposition: Factor ( A ) into a lower triangular matrix ( L ) and an upper triangular matrix ( U ), then solve ( LY = B ) followed by ( UX = Y ).
  4. Special Cases:

    • If ( A ) is not square or not invertible, you may need to use the pseudoinverse or other numerical methods.
    • For systems with no solution or infinitely many solutions, analyze the rank of the matrices involved.

Recommendation: Start with the inverse method if ( A ) is square and invertible. For larger systems or when ( A ) is not invertible, consider using row reduction or numerical methods like LU decomposition. Always verify your solution by substituting back into the original equations.

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