Definition of a K-Pop Comeback
In the world of K-pop, a "comeback" refers to the release of new music by an artist or group, which is not their debut. Unlike Western interpretations of a comeback as a return after a long absence, in K-pop it simply means a new release that includes singles, mini-albums (EPs), or full albums [1:1]
[2:1]. This release is typically accompanied by a promotional cycle involving teaser materials, music videos, and various promotional activities
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Promotional Activities
A comeback involves a series of promotional activities designed to maximize the visibility and success of the new release. These include appearances on music shows, variety shows, fan meetings, and other events [2:2]. The promotional period usually lasts for about a month, during which the group actively engages with fans and media
[2:3]. Some groups also engage in creative marketing strategies such as themed exhibitions, scavenger hunts, and collaborations with local businesses
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Frequency of Comebacks
K-pop groups often have multiple comebacks within a year, with intervals ranging from 3 to 5 months between releases [2:3]. This frequent cycle contrasts with Western artists who might promote a single album over several years. However, the frequency can vary based on the group's popularity, the company's financial situation, and strategic decisions
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Impact on Fans and Culture
Comebacks are significant cultural events for K-pop fans, creating anticipation and excitement around new music and performances. They offer fans the opportunity to engage deeply with their favorite groups through various content and activities [3:3]
[4:6]. The concept of a comeback has become ingrained in K-pop culture, influencing how fans interact with the music and the artists
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Challenges for Smaller Groups
For smaller companies and rookie groups, frequent comebacks can be financially challenging due to limited resources and revenue [5:1]. These groups may struggle to maintain regular comebacks compared to those backed by larger companies. As a result, they may release fewer songs annually, impacting their visibility and growth
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When K-pop bands have a comeback what all does it consist of? Do they announce more tour dates or what? I’m kinda new to the K-pop scene so I don’t know what all a comeback consist of.
In the West we would just call it a new release.
Comeback just simply means a new music release that’s not a debut and not just a one-off digital single. Usually accompanied by a physical album and promotions (TV show spots, related youtube content, music video(s) and sometimes merch). Tour dates are not included, it’s just about the music.
Ok. Thank you ☺️
My friend who finally got the opportunity to convert me after I fell into the Kpop Hole tried to explain everything to me and literally in 2 days I was just, gone from life. Dreamcatcher Basically.
So she kept saying "I can't wait to see your reaction to your first comeback!!" she explained it what it was to me but I need more details because I got confused.
Literally what it means. The group “comes back” for a long schedule of promotions for their latest songs. Can be done via music shows, variety shows, fan meetings etc.
This is followed by a lull period where the group goes back again to prepare for their next album and disappears from activities for awhile.
Oh so groups disappear for a while? Ahh alright. I get it now.
Then I got into kpop in the best time because technically it's Dreamcatcher Comeback now yes?
In kpop "awhile" is a few months! Comeback has a totally different meaning from the western market, it just means a new release by a group. I feel like western artists use "comeback" to mean a dramatic return to the stage after a long absence.
“Best time” is always subjective haha. I can tell you it’s the best time for me because it’s a CLC comeback.
A dream catcher fan may tell you it’s the best time too.
But other fans may tell you to wait for their own favourite groups’ comeback before it’s the best time. All subjective really. Welcome and enjoy the ride!
Xbsbs omg it's so cool to see that Dreamcatcher brought you into kpop!!! You have a tasteful friend :P
Basically yes, kpop works differently in that comeback means new music, new era. Artists don't come out with a full album and promote it for two years like the U.S., the usual comeback cycle is every 3-5 months. For example, Blackpink is making a comeback in march, meaning they're releasing a mini album in March. Promotions for comebacks usually last a month!
Dreamcatcher made their debut with Chase Me and made their first comeback a few months later with Good Night :)
The confusion arises from the fact that in Western showbiz a “comeback” means a return to prominence after a long period of a relative lack of success/fame after their initial popularity, like with John Travolta with Pulp Fiction or Robert Downey Jr. with Iron Man. In K-Pop, a comeback basically just means a new release—a single, mini-album (EP) or album—though there’s more to it than that since in mainstream K-Pop it entails a promotional cycle, starting with early teaser material for the release (images of the members showing the song’s concept, a tracklist, a highlight video of the album, a teaser video for the main single, sometimes a pre-release song/video for a song on the album that’s not the main single), the release of the single/album alongside the MV, kicked off with a “showcase” (sort of a press conference for fans and media where the act performs their single and other songs from the album), then a number of weeks performing the song on the music chart shows before they wrap things up with “goodbye stages” (the last official performances of their single on the music shows as part of the promotional cycle). During the promotions we’ll see additional videos—dance practices, behind the scenes footage of shooting the music video, behind the scenes footage of shooting the photos for the album, etcetera—and the acts may also make appearances on other TV shows (talk shows, variety shows) to promote the release.
So the short answer is “a comeback is a new song (to promote as a single or part of an album),” but there’s a lot that goes into a comeback.
Well is just some months is not like I am gonna be in a corner waiting pffftt
Thank you for the explanaition aswell!
For Dreamcatcher, yeah, they've had a good output of three comebacks a year in the past couple of years of their post-MINX existence. But for some groups, for one reason or another--the company doesn't make enough money to fund their next release, the company wants to devote resources to other groups on their label, their career hasn't been successful and the company is just letting the clock run out on theirr contract, or conversely, the group has reached a certain level of success so it's more lucrative to pursue other activities or tour or advance to another country, or they're a girl group under YG--comebacks can happen once a year or even more rarely.
Agree with everyone that already answered, just wanted to leave an invitation to join us at the r/dreamcatcher subreddit. All fans old and new are welcome!
Already did! Thank you for the invite though!
As a keen observer of kpop/music culture in general, and a BTSceptic, I am really interested to know about how the next group comeback will turn out. Not even musically, but how the group/fandom are going to act.
A lot of time has passed since their last comeback. I'm going to bring in other boy groups for comparison here as that's all we really have to go on. Other boy groups comebacks around their military era (with the majority of members, not all):
The last single BTS properly promoted as a group was Yet to Come (yawn to come) in mid 2022. If they don't release anything until mid 2026 (timed for anniversary), that's 4 whole years! Obviously there are a lot of other factors at play when considering those groups listed above, including Covid. But if it does end up being 4 years, it's going to be a huge gap in comparison. It will be interesting to see how great their pull is beyond people just checking out the comeback casually. If BTS had staggered their enlistments a bit better, they could have followed the pattern above and had more regular comebacks, as well as spreading out solo releases to avoid this fan fatigue that has developed even within seasoned Armys.
But more importantly, I think that enormous span of time will not have a positive effect on the members. It will be interesting watching how they interact again after all their solo outings where they've only been working for themselves. I think it will change their interpersonal relationships hugely and Army might not get the OT7 dynamic as before. They'll be scrambling when it comes out that the members just aren't all besties anymore. They're in their late 20s/early 30s, a time of a lot of personal change in my experience, even just in your personality. Think how different RM and V present themselves now for example. If they do do an all out worldwide promo like Butter, PTD, I think intra-group resentment regarding English speaking might develop further. Although I think they'll be happy to be working together again at first, cracks will show eventually.
That's not to mention Army getting so big and unruly that they are eating themselves like an ouroboros. As this forum shows, their poison has turned so many against them.
Finally, coming back to the groups I mentioned. Although their group releases are periodical (members leaving companies etc aside), they are still considerably less than their pre-military careers when they were worked to the bone. I don't know in detail, but generally the groups above were happy to have group comebacks, but their work as a group has not been continuous since then. Now they are all doing more solo work both in and out of music. I think a lot of Army are living in delusion that they will go straight back to regular comebacks like pre-2021. I think it may end up more like a Blackpink situation, with a small amount of music attached to a regular big world tour.
Army may state 'BTS aren't like other groups!!!' until they are blue in the face, like they are some special holy exception, but I think the truth is they are humans like any other idol, and are lot more similar than they'd like to admit.
I'd love to hear any thoughts on this! Or any psychics who can tell the future. Apologies if I got any facts wrong too!
Even if their dynamic as group is different they will fake it and pretend they still are the same as they where when they filmed group content 24/7,also talking about that,will they still be ok with having to film group content 24/7 now that they also want their solo careers and individual names to shine? i think they will keep popping group music cus they are chart obsessed and members like RM and Suga and Jhope knows they as soloist will never gonna get that #1 in hot 100 so they will have to keep bragging about group sucess forever,i dont think any of them will leave hybe not even in the "i leave for solo stuff but i renew as a group" strategy,they dont have the guts to do that and create a label where they will not have the same budget,resources and connections and will have to truly do a lot of planning themselves with a small team,hybe marketing them as 7 forever stunnted a lot of their solo ambitions and a lot of their solo oportunities you saw in their soloist chapter was only thanks to hybe and not their personal industry connections,which make it different to #that gg that always where more marketed as individuals that make group stuff once in awhile so now that they are on their 30s nobody is shocked or surprised cus it has always been that way and their fandom got used to that strategy from early on So yeah i think they will keep making music or releasing music stuff as a group till they are like 60 lol nobody will leave the group no matter how much they are done with the idol lifestyle and want to be hollywood stars now,they dont have the guts to do that
>will they still be ok with having to film group content 24/7 now that they also want their solo careers and individual names to shine?
My thought also...it was ok when a group was all they'd ever known. But now things are different and they've had a taste of life outside that which may change their feelings! Also agree they won't disband. Seems to be rare for big groups anyway.
The comeback will do numbers, however it will not be as big as some armies think it will be. The hybe isn't as big as it used to be and most armies that were there before the military actually seem to have a life now. BTS doesn't seem to be untouchable anymore.
I also think that their comeback song is going to be the same as the hit songs they made in the 2020s. A typical boring pop song with some tiktok vibes to it.
I can also tell you the line distribution, Jungkook will sing like 60% of the song, Jimin sadly will get alot of lines aswell, the rapline will get a combined 15 seconds with j hope and suga getting like one line while rm gets two lines, jin will be 3rd in the line distribution and armies will go crazy and say "jin finally has lines" even tho he has alot of lines since like 2017, and our zionist V will also get like 20 seconds in the song.
Agree with a lot your predictions. In 2026 I think they'll release a bad to awful album or EP with a few English tracks thrown in. Then a big world tour which will do very well, possibly biggest kpop tour ever. And then they'll go back to their solo careers, reuniting every so often as a cash grab. Their popularity has already peaked for sure and the next few years will see it decline. Hard core armys will stick around and annoy us forever but they won't be front and center forever. Kpop is obsessed with youth, that's just the way it is. What I'm most interested in is what their legacy will be.
if its some 2:30 minutes long tiktok type music, ITS OVER.
Sorry, but recently HYBE is only releasing these kind of "lofi"/half-baked music, barely any substance
Undoubtedly for TikTok/challenge optimization purposes.
Regardless, people are going to bring up the recent Coca Cola endorsement and rightfully so. There's gonna be some "taint" looming in the distance and I hope this issue can be effectivelt leveraged for some good clownery on them.
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Honestly, I have a pretty bold opinion about this. I think the real surprise will be that the comeback might flop.
Like you said, 4 years is a long time — especially for people over 20. People change, their interests shift, and I’m starting to notice that even ARMYs themselves aren’t what they used to be. It’s way easier to “cancel” them now, and they don’t have the same power they once did.
On top of that, BTS’s music isn’t that interesting anymore. As a group, they just aren’t exciting — especially now that they’re all in their 30s. And the huge gap before this comeback completely kills the momentum, not to mention the solo releases they've dropped (and may continue dropping) in between.
Then there’s their public image, which has started to decline — from supporting Zionists to individual members facing controversies outside the group.
When you put all these small things together, they could cause serious damage. Even if HYBE throws everything behind this comeback, I really don’t think it’ll live up to the hype.
Make it be so 🙏
It feels like a lot of groups these days just drop an album, promote for one week, do a couple TikToks, and then dip 🫤 Not much content at all. No creativity in terms of marketing. No themed exhibitions pertaining to said group's concepts. They could do cool comeback activities involving fans? Maybe like a fun scavenger hunt? Mini fanmeetings? Fun limited time events with local businesses??
Idk what groups yall are stanning but TXT goes crazy for their eras so I always have fun. Themed exhibitions, mini fanmeets, music shows, variety shows, scavenger hunts in different cities, etc
What about collabs with small businesses? Like having specially themed drinks pertaining to said group
Yes, they've done cute things like collabs with local businesses and such! In New York they collabed with a korean american bakery and had special themed bakery treats inspired by the members. For their latest album they had specific snacks for their mascots and the packaging was really cute! You could decorate the snacks with their new logo.
right ive always enjoyed it. their recent concepts ive enjoyed especially etched.
check out my only and ult group ARTMS 🤩 comeback eras always special. debut roll out was impressive - and individual teasers and promotion for Tour and comeback was like art. icarus era magnificent. has a concept and direction. i love this group.
I love their outfits 💅
The most recent one that caught my attention and felt special to some extent was Illit. They promoted for 6 weeks, did many stages, performed multiple songs, wore so many iconic outfits.
It's actually felt like an era that can be remembered.
I miss that about K-Pop..all the radio shows and 4 week music shows 😭
You beat me to it. PLUS all the extra content every week like their mini series and bts etc. great time to be a fan
6 weeks? Wow they are a trooper.
Things just move too fast these days.
I saw some comments from a couple people who say they "LOVED" Kpop Demon Hunters 2-3 weeks after it came out saying that they were tired of the hype. The movie hadn't even been out for a month and they had genuinely liked it.
If some "fans" of one of the biggest movies this year are tired of it after 2 weeks and think it's normal to share that, it just shows the way things are these days.
Hopefully the pendulum will swing back in the other direction and people will realize it's worth it to stick with a great thing for a while before moving on so quickly. Fans gotta vote with their actions and words.
Is it some new strategy? because I don't think it's working very well.
I don't think groups should be overworked and have comeback every week but at least give them a single and EP of 5 songs which they can perform . The sad thing is that a lot of the time the members are very talented but the talent is being wasted by the company. I know it's very hard to succeed especially if you're from a small company and have to compete with the big ones, but I don't think anyone execpt some high budget MV and 10 different outfits, just make them seen so people won't forget about them. we all know how fast paced the kpop industry it and while it's good thing to take the time and craft a good song waiting too much is harming the groups
Who are you talking about? Im curious.
For small companies its hard to have comeback even if they are low budget bc they barely see any revenue out of it, so they need to have investors for it. Probably new ones every comeback, and from what i understand, investors have lowered since the past year. If they dont get attention enough from kpopers or the general public that translates in sales they won't be able to properly finance a comeback soon
Mainly girl groups not someone specific but I just noticed that in the last few years rookie groups release less music. I didn't think about the investment problem. maybe that's why it happens
I actually saw a video on youtube analyzing why it seems like a lot of gg disband comparing to bg, and part of it is bc companies debut more gg than bg, bc gg are usually less risk, bc general public might get interrsted in them, giving them cloud and become fans. And for bg, it's unlikely they gain the public attention, so they usually invest more to create at least a fandom, bc bg live off fandoms, if they don't manage to have one they get disbanded.
So usually more gg debut, and at the same time more of them get disbanded, double the amount of bg actually (that video went year by year on how many debuted in each cat vs how many disbanded in each cat)
This must be about smaller groups?
Cause I don't recall any mid sized or larger gg to debut in recent years to do one drop a year?
5th gen gg's and their songs in the first year.
BM did 14.
Meovv are up to 7 in 11 months
Illit did 10
Kiss of life did 13 not including solo's.
H2H are up to 3 in 7 months.
Kiiikii are up to 8 in 5 months.
Triple S have done a ton.
Young Posse did 15.
For comparison most 4th gen gg's also did on average like 7 songs in their first year.
The only one I can think of is Bad villain.
Whether or not it’s a strategy depends on the situation. YG groups do this stuff on purpose, groups from small companies might not be able to afford frequent comebacks.
yes but it depends on frequent I don't think it's unreasonable to expect an ep or a single aftet a year
I wish would go back to yearly releases. These multiple releases makes it feel like nothing gets a chance to grow and breathe. Just when a song is catching on they release another and another.
Recreating the exclusivity some older groups have to get to a point where no matter what is released they’ll make profit tbh
A lot of smaller company groups just can't afford it tbh
Considering that the last bts members are returning form military by late June, and bts has diapoarared since mid 2022 when the first members joined military service, do you think their return later this year will be massive and it’ll probably lead to a new Korean wave? I also believe that squid game finale will be huge and it’ll boost up the new Korean wave and then bts will further solidify the new Korean wave and it’ll pave way for new kpop groups and idols to breakthrough worldwide
I used to be a BTS fan. I still like their music but I'm not a fan like that anymore. I've heard solo songs and it doesn't hit the same anymore. When BTS peaked, their sings carried messages about loving yourself. Now a days, with a lot of these solos, it's about sex and other stuff that are really positive or as impactful as it used to be. If they do trend again, I believe it'll be momentarily
I definitely think so
I came across some recent social media clips of the next generation male groups selling out huge stadium concerts in various countries. I think BTS returning will be pretty big for the industry and be a tailwind.
All I know is they better roll up to the nines with an XF dance crew.
Shit the Blackpink members pull is ridiculous, shameless ABA(Anything But Asian) dance team.
Yes
Other groups haven't reached the same heights as the 3rd generation, maybe BTS returning will give the whole market a boost but I don't follow closely enough to fully know what's going on - think it'll be much slower growth for Kpop in general 🤷♂️
Do y'all think that they'll do a Korean or Japanese comeback next and when? Curious about other people's opinions
i'm guessing a korean comeback :0 they've been releasing two albums (or mini albums) a year for a while now... and i feel like if they add another tour leg (latam and south east asia) they'll probably release an album before that.
Seonghwa hasn't even turned 27 yet and contracts haven't officially been renewed but people are already freaking out over their enlistment era. My goodness can we not just enjoy 2025 without prematurely worrying about when they're going to leave for the military?
Anyway, I do think it's likely that they'll start teasing the next era at the Seoul concert and if we go by their usual schedule a Korean comeback in May seems reasonable.
i'm thinking the exact same thing as you :/ like damn they're not even 28 yet, can we please all calm down? they still have a bit of time left, many idols go right before they turn 30.... i'm tired of everyone acting like they're about to enlist tomorrow
Exactly! And I won't get too deep into it here but as someone who's been listening to Kpop for over ten years and has seen many of my former faves go through their enlistment periods, it really is not the end of the world, especially now.
I just want to enjoy what is undoubtedly going to be a great year for the members as a group and individually without people doomposting.
Are you suggesting that we should be freaking out about contract renewal instead 😗 I’m joking! They’re definitely not going into the military that soon, but like i said in another comment higher up: especially based on what wooyoung said in a semi-recent live, i do think enlistment shouldn’t be a dirty word. Also agree with your comment that enlistment is really not a death knell for idols’ careers any more, especially since ateez have worked their way up to being a top group. We should be able to and capable of discussing it in a neutral way.
It's annoying how much enlistment is being brought up considering a lot of idols don't go until they're almost 30. The youngest idol I know of who has enlisted (who is also the youngest in general I think) is Jungkook at like...27? 26? But that's not something idols would typically do and I feel like if he was in any other group that wouldn't have happened. I think we have time. I would be very shocked if we didn't.
I always thought about how they can all go to the military together after their contracts end so they can also return together. But that's just a thought.
anticipating korean, probably golden hour pt 3 soon followed by another world tour maybe by end of the year? our matz are approaching… ahem… that time (im sorry) so i think they’ll want to wrap up this trilogy before then
I saw someone post a theory that the number of albums per era has been decreasing each time so only 2 for golden hour and then 1 for the last era before enlistments 😭
Being a carat also and seeing atiny doomposting about enlistment is making me giggle a lil. Seonghwa is only 26, they're acting like hes gonna enlist this year. Jeonghan enlisted a few months before his 29th birthday. There's plenty of time for multiple comebacks
samesies i'm manifesting too bc i really want them to come back to latam 😭😭 and last tour that's what they did, a new album (Outlaw) and then the latam and asia tour datesss
Hmm, I checked their comeback schedule from the previous three years, and
Now, if we compare releases in 2023 and 2024, Bouncy and Crazy Form came out on June 15th and December 1st, while Work and IOMT on May 30th and November 15th. Two weeks of a difference, roughly! Guerrilla and Halazia were July 29th and Demeber 30th, for comparison. Unless something changes, I think we can expect May and November to be Korean comeback months. Can they fit in a Japanese comeback, though? Not Okay came out on February 28th, so that's roughly three months between a Japanese and a Korean comeback, but in this case, they're finishing the TTL tour in late March, so it might be an obstacle, and I suppose they'll focus on the concert prep.
tl;dr A Korean comeback probably, yeah.
Many people in the comments mentioned enlistment, so >!I grabbed a couple of random idol enlistment dates and based on those, most of them enlisted a couple of months before their 29th birthday (and some, a couple of months after their 28th birthday). International ages, of course.!<
>!Seonghwa, as the eldest, turns 29 in early April 2027. Now, there are several scenarios, so I can't say for sure -- well, no one but Seonghwa and KQ can, lol -- but the main question is, are they going to enlist in pairs/groups, or individually? Are they going to try for solo releases before enlisting or not? Are they going to promote those solo releases? It all depends on that. But if we assume Seonghwa has to get his butt to the military before he's 29, then, my theory:!<
>!Another interesting thing to think about: if Matz release solo stuff before enlisting, then what about 99z and Jongho? It would be unfair to ship them off to serve without letting them release something as well, but waiting until 2028 would make the OT8-Atiny separation longer lol. On the other hand, Wooyoung has said it himself that we've got three years left... 🤔🤔🤔!<
As far as I know, one of the members said that their comeback will be in May, a month after Coachella, and what do you guys think would be the theme or concept for the next comeback?
R&b sexy song like fever. I feel like they will make a pop rock song within the ep. I think it will be 5 or 6 songs
You better be right 😩
Man. With all the water imagery since dark blood.
I think its gonna be some water concept. Like they're probably wet and stuff in the MV or something.
Like they're going through a full on rebirth
they were pretty wet in no doubt + they're melting in their latest tiktok
tbh idk anything all I'm hoping for is a cvnty vampire concept. like. they need to go back to their roots. dark blood's sexy twin 🙏 but make it bolder and more refined given their growth and experience as artists
Since they said the next album'll be hot, I'm hoping for Dark Blood, Drunk Dazed or Memorabilia vibes again as well. That in combo would just be heaven imo
same!! i feel it's always their dark pop stuff that really becomes iconic and sets them apart from the others
Heeseung said that their new album will be hot!! So let's see!! I also think their comeback will be mass audience based as well because the comeback is after Coachella.
omg where and when did he say that
He said that in their concert recently, I'm not sure but in Osaka maybe. But he did say that in a concert when he was talking about their new album.
something spicy!
Hi there!
I thought it would be really interesting to ask what your favourite K-Pop comeback(s) are this year.
Feel free to talk about things such as your favourite part of the M/V, your favourite comeback stages, the outfits and maybe who bias-wrecked you haha :D
I think one of my favourite comebacks this year would be Black Swan by BTS because of its elegance and the dance is so intricate! My other favourite is Kick It by NCT 127 because it’s such a powerful song and the M/V is so striking.
Have fun!! :)
Itzy Wannabe! The song is very catchy, girls look amazing and their dancing is also sooo good. I love everything about this comeback.
Gfriend's Labyrinth. That album was insane.
Followed by Dreamcatcher and Apink. Still think Apink had the strongest title track. But Gfriend really served the bsides. Also Rocket Punch, while their new title didn't do it for me at all, the bside Lilac was FANTASTIC.
Elris - This Is Me is easily my favourite kpop song released so far this year. I'm a sucker for Sweetune music.
Dreamcatcher’s Scream, hands down! Not to mention Dystopia album in its entirety - still enjoying it daily
not a comeback but nun nu nan na and assa by cignature! ive been waiting for the girls from good day to make a return and they finally did!
Nowadays, I’ve seen a lot of remarks saying that the recent comebacks of some groups feel rushed or lackluster, especially when the members themselves are the main producers.
It makes me wonder—could this have something to do with how K-pop idols are normalized to have multiple comebacks in a single year? Maybe these producer-idols are being rushed or pressured to constantly release out new music, even when they’re not creatively ready.
After all, music production is deeply rooted in inspiration. That’s why Western artists typically take around two years or more to release an album.
I watched Chan and Han talk on NiziU's variety show about their recent Japanese EP.
If I remember rightly, they said that the title track, Hollow, was a concept that they had tried pre-debut but the song wasn't good (their own words) so this was their retry.
And then I think they also mentioned there was a different song on the EP that they'd written quite a few years ago and was only just now being released.
I can only speak for Stray Kids as I watch more of their interviews and appearances and behind the scenes than any other group. But they have often talked about songs being meant for one album but having been shelved for the next one. Or a song sitting on Chan's laptop for years before being used. Famously, their song Superbowl was originally supposed to be "God's Menu" but the members loved a new song that became God's Menu and then Superbowl was renamed and reworked into a b-side 3 years later.
I don't completely disagree with you. I do wish Stray Kids especially spaced out their comebacks a bit more, although I always eat up new music from them very greedily. And I think if I did have to criticise their output, it would be cohesiveness of their albums (although I think Mixtape Dominate was EXTREMELY cohesive!)
But I do think Stray Kids have room to shelve things, revisit things, scrap things, etc.
When I read your comment, it reminded me of one of the things I admire most about K-pop idols — just how hardworking they are. Like, beyond releasing multiple songs and albums in a year, they’re also constantly filming variety content, touring, etc. It’s honestly insane how much they juggle. 👏
I'm personally extremely lazy and not driven at all. So the hard work and dedication of idols is completely foreign to me and something I really admire. I wish I was more like that!
This made me think about Stray Kids' last Korean comeback (HOP) and how I didn't think it was cohesive at all. And while that doesn't bother me personally, it's a valid criticism.
But then I was thinking "well, the majority of that album was solo songs so of course it wouldn't be cohesive."
Which then made me think, wow I'd love to see Stray Kids units release songs around a similar concept or theme and see how each unit interpreted it. So for example, Mixtape Dominate had four unit songs, two members in each song. I'd love to see a version of that but themed! How would the units differ? We could learn so much about their individual tastes and styles!
>Which then made me think, wow I'd love to see Stray Kids units release songs around a similar concept or theme and see how each unit interpreted it.
This reminded me of the 2 kids song series. This series was one of the biggest reasons I became a stay. Using the same track to make 4 completely different songs using different approaches.
I wonder if they could do something similar for an album.
I know nothing about SKZ but your idea reminded me that I always thought it would be cool if a larger group (such as SKZ) did a thing where every single member did their own take on the same song. Maybe one member would sing it as a ballad, one would turn it into a rock song, one would rap the entire thing, etc.
It wasnt really a comeback they didn't promote it at all beside one time for a gayo😅 even the album was described as a mixtape and a special album bc it was just a way to release the solos from the tour + U feat tablo was supposed to be in ate and they just put it in hop, so what im saying their last official comeback was a year ago with chk chk boom
This year it's 2 albums like before and they are yet to announce the comeback
This is just me theorizing but if the “some groups” you’re referring to are SKZ, Seventeen, and IDLE, the idea that the quality is going down could be a result of those groups’ fandoms getting older. All 3 groups are finally old enough to where they have fandom generations (pre-debut fan vs debut era fan vs peak era fan etc). A lot of times when a group hits this age, the “older” fans start to question the quality of the music. Not because it’s actually “bad”, but because it doesn’t feel as special or magical as the songs when you first became a fan.
I loved SNSD’s last two albums, but I found myself feeling a bit disappointed in the music. And then I realized they still sound like classic Soshi, I just miss the past too much. I bet that a newer SNSD fan considers all of their albums to be equally magical experiences because it’s still novel to them. But nothing will ever be as “good” as what you experienced when you first got there.
Nope I enjoy the music and happily will be open to new song any day even if my fav release a song a day.
Generally, yes. Self-producing groups are caught between a rock and a hard place when they have to rely on themselves for their next release but are short on time and inspiration. Idol-related activities like appearing on variety shows, hosting, and brand deals pack their schedules enough, and then they also have song-making responsibilities on top of that. To meet all their obligations, they can't do everything all by themselves and collab/delegate to get by.
I think it also depends on the idol-producers' styles. I-DLE's Minnie says she takes a long time to write songs because she can only compose when she's inspired, so instances like her becoming very depressed during I-DLE's world tour would take a big hit on her ability to create period. Compare this to Yuqi and Soyeon, who have endless ideas and steadily create. In some ways, having a set deadline in the near future to refine and execute a concept might actually be helpful for them, since they don't have to wait too long to try something new.
Hui recently revealed that the inspiration for Dr. Bebe (the title track of Pentagon's full-length album) was a box of Dr. Bebe wet-wipes -- basically, he was panicking, because Cube didn't like any of his submitted tracks, and they wouldn't push back the schedule.
Now, as it happens, Dr. Bebe is, imo, one of his best tracks, and the concept/MV was actually really cool, but if THAT is the typical level of rush that these idol-producers are under, yeah, you're going to get some clunkers.
Want to add Cube had rejected Hui's title track proposal 6 times before he came up with Dr Bebe, the song portrays well his desperation as the deadline approached, lol.
Although Hui just revealed it recently through the ZB1 show, the 'Hui's title track getting rejected 6 times' story is quite famous among Cube that even Cube's legendary former in-house producers Son Youngjin and Big Sancho mentioned it before (without saying it was Hui).
What is a kpop comeback
Key Considerations about K-Pop Comebacks:
Definition: A K-Pop comeback refers to when an artist or group returns to the music scene with new music after a period of inactivity. This typically involves the release of a new album or single.
Promotion: Comebacks are often accompanied by extensive promotional activities, including music videos, live performances, and variety show appearances to generate buzz and engage fans.
Concept Changes: Each comeback usually features a new concept or theme, which can include changes in style, music genre, and visual aesthetics. This keeps the content fresh and exciting for fans.
Fan Engagement: Fans often eagerly anticipate comebacks, participating in countdowns and promotional events. The excitement can lead to increased streaming and sales, impacting chart performance.
Timing: Comebacks are strategically planned, often timed around significant events or anniversaries, and can be influenced by the group's schedule, such as member enlistments or solo projects.
Takeaway: A K-Pop comeback is a significant event that showcases an artist's growth and creativity, while also serving as a way to reconnect with fans and boost their presence in the competitive music industry.
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