TL;DR
Micro Four Thirds (MFT) Cameras
Micro Four Thirds (MFT) cameras like the Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mk III and Panasonic GX85 are frequently recommended for beginners due to their compact size, affordability, and quality lenses [1:1]
[1:2]. These cameras encourage portability and practice, which is essential for developing skills. The MFT system offers a wide range of lenses that are both sharp and relatively inexpensive
[2:2].
Fujifilm Options
Fujifilm's X-series cameras, such as the X-T30 II, provide excellent image quality and user-friendly interfaces. They are known for their appealing design and straight-out-of-camera performance, making them suitable for beginners who may not want to delve deeply into editing initially [3:2]
[4:5]. The Fujifilm X-T3, despite being older, remains popular due to its weather sealing and robust features
[5:1].
Canon and Sony Alternatives
Canon's mirrorless cameras, like the R50, offer pleasing color science and intuitive design, which can be advantageous for beginners focusing on portraits and landscapes [2:4]. Sony's A6xxx series provides great autofocus and compact bodies, making them suitable for various photography styles
[4:9]. Both brands have extensive lens ecosystems, allowing for growth and versatility.
Considerations for Lenses
Regardless of the camera brand, investing in quality lenses is crucial. Lenses do most of the heavy lifting in photography, and selecting the right ones for your preferred genres is important [2:1]
[2:5]. For beginners, a medium zoom lens with a constant aperture or prime lenses like the Panasonic 25mm F1.7 can be excellent starting points
[1:3]
[3:1].
Budget and Growth
Setting a firm budget for both the camera body and lenses is advisable. Many users recommend buying used gear from reputable sources like MPB to maximize value [4:4]
[4:8]. It's also important to choose a camera that you won't outgrow quickly, ensuring it has features that support learning and professional growth
[4:3].
I’ve never shot photography before. I want to get into it as I’d like to document my travel more and have something to fill my home with photos.
I’m considering getting the LUMIX G85 for my first camera, but not sure if M43 is the best choice for a newby or not.
If you were starting photography, would you recommend an M43 camera, and what camera might you recommend?
Absolutely. Lowest entry point price-wise, with some of the most capable beginner cameras of all time. Very small yet high quality f1.8 primes will encourage you to actually carry the camera and practice your photography. At a beginner stage, you should be focusing less on absolute best image quality and resolution, and more on your own composition and skills and this is what a beginner m43 system will bring out of you.
Hidden benefit: most beginners are not tooled up with massive amounts of storage and powerful computers that quickly process 40mp+ images that some of the newest aspc and ff bodies spit out. But m43 16 and 20mp images remain easy to work with on many computers and wont eat up a ton of your storage either. This was a benefit i didnt appreciate when i was a beginner using my e-m10 mark iii, but later i got a 40mp fuji body and realized how much computing power and storage you need for high resolution images.
This is very helpful! Thank you!
Do you have any recommendations for a camera body and lens that would be good as a general carry to learn in? I have my first trip to Europe coming up in 3 months and am hoping to have enough practice that I feel confident in getting some quality images for my family and I.
Your G85 is a good choice. Others in that family are the G7, GX85, and G95/G97. The newer ones are more expensive, but I bought my granddaughter a G7 for Xmas.
For lenses, either a Lumix 12-32mm, 12-35mm, 12-60mm, or 14-150mm are good starter lenses. There is a Leica 12-60mm that is more expensive but is very good & thus expensive.
Good start point can be a Olympus M10 Mk III or a M5 Mk II or even a Panasonic GX80 with the Panasonic Lumix G 12-60 mm f/3.5-5.6.
Both bodies are relatively easy to find second hand for good price and they are more than enough for a begineer, meanwhile that lens is very good for a begineer beacause it's cheap and cover a long versatile range.
what is your budget? and do u have a sense of what genres you're most interested in growing into?
lastly , consider lenses before purchasing a body. need to think through those two in parallel rather than buying a body then stumbling through lenses
G85 + Lumix 12-60 kit + Lumix 25mm F/1.7
Yes, and for more experienced people as well.
You will have to accept people on the internet will claim #1 the system is dead, #2 any sensor smaller than FF is inferior, #3 equivalence is important and #4 GAS means you will buy a full frame camera anyway so why wait?
Btw: I had the G85 and loved it but I believe the M43 shines with gx85/gx7/gx9/gx85/EM-5/PenF range finder body style, unless you want to do wildlife photography and carry large zooms. There are lots of small great primes and zooms, a smaller camera is easier to take with you without the need for a separate camera bag.
I’m really leaning more toward the Olympus brand as a whole. I really love the look of the bodies in comparison. But I’ve never been hands on with either LUMIX or Olympus cameras.
I would test them. For me the Lumix cameras have a better overall handling than the ones from O (body layout, UI, buttons). Handling is today often more important than a little bit more image quality or IBIS-capacity.
I use an E-M1 Mk III w Panasonic Lumix 14-140mm II professionally regularly.
Absolutely. You've said elsewhere you're tending towards OM, and I'd suggest any of the bodies with phase detect auto focus: em5 iii, om5, om5 ii, em1 ii, em1 iii, OM1, om1 ii or om3. Going used on the earlier models of those is a really cost effective way of getting very close to the latest kit. For example em5 iii is pretty much the same as the om5 ii. There was a step up with the OM1, but the mark II just gave small increments. There's a good lens selection, including good and cheap very good and not cheap.
The advantages for m43 is that there's some very good cameras and lenses that can produce really good results without breaking your back or bank. On the other hand, there isn't much apart from small incremental updates from om since it took over from Olympus. Panasonic seems to be focussing on their full frame offerings, but the g9 ii and gh7 are really good, but the latter is only worth it if you need top end video, and the g9 ii is big- the same shape and size as their full frame hybrid S5 ii.
TL;DR yes, it's a great system, just make sure what's out there now is what you want (which it probably does) because new stuff isn't likely to come quickly.
So a few months back I bought an EM10iii for $300 with an 800 shutter count. I’m brand new to photography, slowly learning (and not taking enough photos). But I bought it both as a first camera and because I was gonna travel. I ended up taking over 800 photos on that trip. Sure not all were great but who cares, I’m learning lol.
But yeah, 10/10 recommend, it’s nice a small, and does great. I started with the 14-42mm Olympus II R and ended up getting the Panasonic 25mm F1.7 and love it.
Hey all! I'm looking into getting into photography again, but this time with a mirrorless camera versus my Canon Rebel T5. What's some recommendations for a good middle group mirrorless? Something that won't obliterate my bank account, but isn't the lowest grade either. I don't fully have a set budget for it, as it's something I'm going to work up towards, so any price point is fine.
Do you have recommendations on absolutely must have accessories with a mirrorless vs DSLR?
What I'm hoping to focus on with it: Portraits (Primarily People focused, both single and family/event), nature landscape (sunset/sunrise/beach/wooded), animal life/woodland critters, and I would love to get into micro photography but I'm not skilled enough nor comfortable enough to pursue that just yet.
It does have to be semi rugged as, while it will be treated with great care, I will be out in elements with it, and it will travel with me a lot.
Bonus points for bundles that include additional items/accessories.
Thank you for any and all suggestions, advice, and constructive criticisms!
I would suggest a M43 system ticks most of your boxes. The lenses are also small and relatively cheap whilst being known for sharpness.
But ultimately, whatever system you choose, it will all ultimately come down to glass.
Fuji has a very nice lineup of fast APS-C specific lenses. Canon has 6 for their RF-S line and their fastest is a f/3.5 but thats on a variable zoom lens. Thats where I went for kind of the same problem. Mirrorless, pretty good autofocus, fast lenses available, compact size and cheaper than going full frame.
Don't think too deeply into the camera for now, first decide what specifically you want. Sony is the best for video and has the best auto focus andvariety canon has a pleasing colour science(good for sunsets and portraits) and beginner intuitive design, fujifilm has that feel and straight out of camera performance. Then find a model within that company in your budget and make sure it has the little things you want (like in your case, durability and weather resistance) Now you want to spend more time and energy figuring out what lens you want, this should preferably cost more than the camera because it will influence how you shoot more than 6he camera. Find out whether you want a prime or zoom, wide or telephoto or how fast of an aperture. All cameras and lenses have tradeoffs so you should pick the tradeoffs that etfect you the least, for example my xs10s autofocus is pretty bad but im only shooting stills instead of action or video. For accessories, you dont really need anything that doesnt come with the camera already. Maybe straps, extra batteries and a bag.
Lenses are what do most of the heavy lifting, the body is important but it’s something you can upgrade later IF needed (big if).
Also, rugged? There are rugged cameras like the om systems tg 7, they are fine but not great. Otherwise weather sealed cameras and lenses are damn expensive. I would remove that requirement for now.
I cant really talk with much authority on which lens system to get. I use EF, which is a bit outdated but has a ton of great lenses that are easier to find used. However, i dont think I have much room to upgrade the camera body on the same lens system. Not that I feel the need to, the camera body is not whats holding me back.
Edit: sorry, i CAN upgrade the body with and still use EF lenses with an adapter.
Pretty much any mirrorless camera will do everything you want. Lenses though..
https://fstoppers.com/gear/10-modern-cameras-under-600-produce-professional-results-707655
A place to start if you don't want to spend stupid amounts of money.
The problem I see is the different types of photography you list have different needs in terms of lenses. A medium zoom with a constant f/2.8 will do some of what you want (perfect for landscapes and most types of vacation photography), but eventually you'll need a good prime (or two) for portraits, and if you're serious about wildlife then a good telephoto zoom.
I’m looking to purchase my first mirrorless camera. It’s just a hobby. And my budget is less than $1,000. What cameras would you recommend for a starter?
Expect half that budget to be used on lenses. What do you want to shoot? Your family and friends or wildlife that is sitting 200 feet away from you?
People and sceneries. Mostly for vacations
Fujifilm X M5 for less than $900 with a kit lens would fit your budget. I'm not a fuji person myself, but its a good entry camera, especially if you don't want to learn editing, which is about a solid 1/3 of what makes a photo look nice.
The kit is sold out in the all black version on B&H, and the black and silver is coming soon. So there is a little wait on it.
Edit: The X-T30 II fits your needs with the kit lens too, and that is in stock
For $1k, it's hard to beat a Z50II, especially refurbished. Top notch AF and subject detection. Though you'll be very camera-heavy and lens-light at that budget.
You should search this sub, this gets answered a few times a day.
I don't believe one exists.
Don't forget you'll need lenses too. Without knowing your preference I'll just recommend a good hybrid all rounder.
The GX85 is a fantastic all rounder, the 12-60 is a good kit lens to go with it. They are both weather sealed. And the 25mm f1.7 is a nifty fifty equivalent that's sharp, affordable, and a standard reconnection for every beginner.
https://www.mpb.com/en-us/product/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gx85/sku-3094563
https://www.mpb.com/en-us/product/panasonic-lumix-g-25mm-f-1-7-asph/sku-3055560
Hi everyone!
I want to start professional photography, and I’m looking to buy a good camera. I know this is a broad question, so I’ll narrow it down a bit to get your help.
I’ve never used a professional digital camera before, but I do have experience with film cameras. My expectations for the camera I’ll buy now are:
There are so many brands and models out there, so if you have a suggestion for a particular model, series, etc., it would be greatly appreciated.
As for the price, I’ll definitely be buying second-hand. I regularly follow websites like eBay, Facebook Marketplace, and Craigslist. I recently discovered MPB and noticed that prices there are more reasonable. I’d love to hear your recommendations, opinions, and experiences.
As someone who was in your position, Sony A6xxx series have been great for me. Buy the newest one you can afford while investing in a good lense. My recommendation is the sigma 18-50
Second this. The series is fantastic and all the features like excellent AF and all the other quality of life features make it that much easier to learn. The lens options are amazing and affordable. And, there's a large community around it.
Just a word of advice, don't think about how you're going to do it professionally in the beginning. You'll drive yourself crazy and set unrealistic expectations for yourself, your cameras and your work. Learn to enjoy it as a hobby. If you can't enjoy it as a hobby you won't be able to do it as a job.
Also set a firm budget for everything, body, lenses, accessories, everything.
Finally, avoid any private sellers unless you have plenty of experience and know what faults and defects to look for. I have had years of experience and I almost bought a lens with fungus off Facebook a few weeks ago. Place like MPB, KEH, B&H, Adorama or even your local camera stores will have way more reassurance for used kit. There are also lots of refurbished deals on camera websites.
You touched on the most important point — it’s definitely not something you can do professionally without genuinely enjoying it! :) I definitely love it as a hobby rn! But honestly, turning it to a professional level is one of my dreams, so I can’t stop thinking about it.
Thanks so much for the site suggestions btw, I’ll check them all out.
I was thinking private sellers would be better, so your experience really means a lot!
Without knowing your budget I'd suggest an Olympus OM1 or the slightly older E-M1 MK III. Fanstastic build quality, wonderful performance. Very capable camera for its price, and the micro four thirds lens map is very extensive. The 12-40 f2.8 PRO would be an excellent standard lens to go with it.
MPB is legit. I’ve gotten used cameras and lenses from there.
Nikon Z isn’t on your list but has the shortest flange length, which means the most flexibility on lenses. They also have good native lenses.
Sony was the previous holder of flexibility on lens choice. 3rd parties almost always cater to this crowd. The bodies are fairly small for full frame. Somewhat older models like the a7iii can be relatively inexpensive. The really old gen’s have bad/no ibis.
Canon has good stuff these days, but I don’t like their lens ecosystem. I used to be an EF guy.
Fuji are pretty and a lot of people like them. I’d go with one of the first two FF options above for mount versatility. There are websites that will let you do size comparison of all bodies and lenses across manufacturers if that difference concerns you.
First of all, thank you so much for all your suggestions — they are really helpful!
I hadn’t seriously considered the Nikon Z series — not because I hadn’t heard of it, but because other brands and models seemed to stand out more. I’ll definitely take a closer look. Do you have a favorite in that series?
Thanks also for your comments on Sony and Canon — I’m taking note of everything!
As for Fuji, I really like them but I’m not sure if it’s the right camera for a beginner. Also, do you think mount versatility is limiting on Fuji?
A7iii if you don't mind a chunkier body in exchange for better image quality and professional features. A6400 if you prioritize portability. Both available at very reasonable prices used. Also consider the Fujifilm X-T30 II or the Canon R50 or R5 (similar tradeoff to the A6400 vs. A7iii, respectively). All will be very serviceable cameras for a beginner at a reasonable price, and you'll be able to grow into them very well.
If you’re interested in a used Olympus omd em5 mkiii, I’m probably selling mine soon, with accessories (extra batteries, chargers, etc)
Hi! I'm currently in the research phase. Honestly, I hadn't really considered a Micro Four Thirds sensor.
What kind of photos did you take with that camera? Understanding your style would help me better understand your suggestions!
If you want to see what MFT can do, do a quick scroll of r/M43. I have two OM-D E-M Mk.II bodies. I shoot birds and street photography, so I wanted a system that was "cheap", small, light, weatherproof, and with good IBIS and PDAF.
https://www.reddit.com/r/M43/comments/1kyqjso/i_dont_own_a_lens_200/
I know those are all manual lenses in that post so PDAF doesn't help, but I do have kit lenses that focus very fast.
Different kind of jobs though. I am an electronics technician but I don't exactly mess around with Arduino for fun.
But with photography, hmmmm, at least personally if I didn't enjoy the process of taking photos I wouldn't be able to do any paid gigs
Hello guys. As the title says, I am looking for a mirrorless camera that is entry to mid-level. I've been studying the mixing of aperture, ISO, and shutter speed. However, I don't have a camera to practice with.
My goal is to shoot portraits and street photography.
I've been eyeing the Fuji X-T3 even though it's already seven years old. It's still very popular, and it has weather sealing, which I like. Do you have any recommendations aside from the X-T3, or should I focus on finding one on eBay? Thanks for the help.
Just get the xt3, for the price it just works.
Hey everyone! 👋
I'm looking to buy my first mirrorless camera as a beginner interested in photography (and possibly some video in the future). I'm not looking to break the bank, but I do want something reliable, easy to use, and with room to grow as I learn.
A few things I'm considering:
Some options I’ve come across:
Would love to hear your experiences or other recommendations! 🙏
Thanks in advance!
Check your local pawnshops for mirrorless cameras. I have been able to find the Z30 w/ 2 lens outfit and a Z50 w/ kit lens for really good prices.
Z50ii with the 16-50 kit lens. Add the 24mm f/1.7 lenses if you need better low-light performance, and the 50-250mm if it wants to photograph farther away things.
This is the way.
Go with the z50ii will give you room to grow. Grab some Viltrox full frame prime lenses , (used if you can) They are cheap and good quality. if you decide to go full down the road they will be compatible.
> Beginner-friendly interface
With Nikon cameras, this really isn't a thing. A high end enthusiast camera like a Z6iii has the same ability to put it in "auto" and let the camera do everything as a Z30 does. The Z30 simply lacks some of the customization and controls to allow you more flexibility if you want it.
The D3500 apparently had a sort of guided mode that was beginner oriented, but I don't believe any Z cameras have this. From what I understand, Canon also has sort of a guided/beginner interface in some of their lower price cameras.
That's not to say a Nikon is a bad choice, rather any Z (except the Z8 and Z9) will have the ability for you to do almost nothing other than frame the scene and hit the shutter button. The Z50 and Z50ii have a built-in flash if that is relevant. Though unlike on the DSLR's, I don't think the camera can choose when to pop it, you have to do it.
I guess it depends on what beginner friendly means, but the Zfc doesn't strike me as that, w/ the dedicated dials that you can't totally ignore (though you may be able to set them in a specific position where after that you can ignore them).
Hello guys,
The past few months I've taken some photography classes as a beginner while I was practicing on a friend's DSLR camera, Nikon D80, just to get used to the basics. Unfortunately I haven't practiced much cause the camera feels very big and heavy for me.
Now that I have finished these beginner classes, it's time for me to buy my first camera. From my experience, I now know that I want a beginner and budget-friendly camera. I also want an as lightweight and compact as possible cause I want it to always fit smoothly to any backpack of mine, so that I can photograph comfortably in my everyday life. (I'd love it to have video too but if there isn't something with good video quality like xt1, if not it's okay I guess..)
For now, the only camera that has all my needs and feels perfect for me is Fuji XT1. I love the compactness that this camera seems to have, and the dslr-like interface when adjusting shutterspeed etc.
I would love to hear some similar recommendations I haven't heard, if you know any of them... Thank you!
Cheap and compact? Used Panasonic GM-1.
thanks for the recommendation!
You might want to have a look at the Olympus E-PL line, or Panasonic's GX camera series - they're both very compact. The GX bodies have a rangefinder style (read: off-center) viewfinder.
Another alternative more similar to the X-T1 would be Olympus' E-M10 mark II and E-M5 mark II.
Any of these, you can find on KEH or MPB for quite reasonable prices usually. Fuji bodies have gotten quite inflated on the used market over the last years of social media hype by comparison.
they seem interesting... thanks very much!
I'm a film student on a budget of $500 lol so l'm most likely going to buy used which is perfectly fine. If I can’t make great content on a cheap camera then I won’t be able to on an expensive one.
I've literally been looking for ages but still can't find the right one. I've narrowed it down to mirrorless because I travel a lot and a rotating screen to make solo shooting easier. But I'm getting a little overwhelmed and tired so I figure it's probably time to ask the experts.
Edit: forgot to mention that I’m thinking about getting the LUMIX g7
Sony Mirrorless A6000 is not bad and very versatile in your price range. The eye tracking, movement tracking is good. Fairly simple to work with and the kit lens is good enough for most casual work. Though you may want to pick up an extra lens or two.
Yeah thanks. I’ve been hearing good things about it. Maybe this is my sign
There's an amazing selection of lenses with the Sony platform
xt1/2 by fuji got me started
If you can expand your budget just a bit, I'd consider a used X-T20/X-E2 ($400) with the XC 35mm. The XC 35mm is $200 new ($150ish used) and is very good glass, just has a plastic body.
Excellent suggestions. I used a friend’s X-E2 for a month and it was a great camera. Kinda blows my mind how affordable those cameras are and makes me wonder why I’m still entertaining the idea of an original X100 which has just gotten more expensive in the time I’ve been waiting to buy one.
i flippn love my xt20. the size ensures that it ACTUALLY makes ut out of thr house/case
Agree on this one, it's been such a fun camera to use with amazing shots!
A used Panasonic GX80/85. Great all-rounder.
Panasonic g85 used on eBay. I got mine for 475 with a lens and it's an awesome camera.
Definitely this. I got one as my first camera for video and photography around 3 years ago, and it's been great to use. MFT lenses are also very well priced compared to other systems, so it's relatively easy to start building up a lens collection. It's still the camera I use today, and I'm looking at potentially upgrading to the GH series in the near future.
I see you said you're thinking about getting the g7, definitely get the g85. It comes with a better kit lens, has sensor stabilization, is built better, has a sharper sensor, and a lot of little upgrades that definitely make it worth it. The sensor stabilization on this camera is top notch dude. I think that makes it worth it over every other camera mentioned.
The 1080 30/60 fps recording has good auto focus, 4k is kinda slow so I would manual focus when doing 4k.
Also there's the best variety of lens options from cheap to expensive with this camera. The lenses are also pretty small compared to other camera systems.
I’m learning to use the manual mode on my iPhone pro 12 max while I wait for Black Friday for a good deal on a camera! I’ve researched enough to know I would prefer a mirrorless camera, but as a beginner I’m not sure what features really matter. Is full frame worth the extra price? Im looking for everyone’s personal opinion on where I should start! I’m looking to get into photography as a hobby (and possibly professionally with practice haha) and I have a budget of 2k. Extra points for personal experience with the camera! TIA
Edit: thank you so much for all of the great advice! You all gave me so much to think about that is important that I wouldn’t have considered previously. Thanks to the great advice I received I’ve decided to no longer wait for a Black Friday sale and go used. A question:
I got the Panasonic G7 which I still use! And with your budget you could add a bunch of lenses too :) always recommend this little one. It’s amazing
This is my suggestion as well. Bought one for my wife and wow does that thing impress me. Even with the kit lens I’m constantly blown away by the image quality. Plus the ease of use, size, and functions (4K video, built in panoramic, time lapse) it’s just such a great all arounder. What’s crazy is the price has seemed to have gone up on it lately. I paid like 420$ a few years ago brand new.
Buy used for your first camera. After you use it a bunch you may realize you have different wants/needs from your gear. And you'll have saved yourself some cash that you can now spend on what you really want.
For aps-c vs full frame, for your use case, it won't really matter at this stage. Yes full frame is "better" but when you're learning, you're better off focusing on composition ad other basics. Not to mention investing in good lenses, which are the real money sink in this hobby/profession.
But for actual product recs: any of the big manufacturers have good used mirrorless options these days. I personally like Fujifilm and Nikon for their handling and colors.
And with a budget of $2k, I wouldn't spend much more that $1200 on a body. Gotta save for a lens or two. A used Nikon Z6 in pristine condition can be had around $1200 USD these days. Similar story with Fuji's X-T3 and X-T4.
+1 for the X-T3. Also, those Fuji primes are unreal, especially for the price.
After 16 years of photography, my X-T3 is my favorite camera I’ve ever had. Getting one for $1200 with $800 left over for a Fujifilm lens or two would be an absolutely brilliant use of that budget.
For $1300 you can get a Z5 band new. Or the Z50 with two kit lenses for $1300. Just depends if the want crop sensor or full frame.
Get a used camera that allows you to manually control you aperture, iso, shutter speed, and exposure.
I would recommend a Fujifilm XT2 or XT3 (used)
Then pick up two primes (third party . meike or rokonin). A 23mm or 35mm and a 50mm or 80mm.
Learn about controling light and motion and composition.
You don't need the best, but manually learning the basics and the why, with practice, you will be come a good photographer.
The camera doesn't make a good photographer. A person who understands controling light and motion, and composition makes a good photographer.
Just my 2 cents.
This, but I’d grab the fuji f2 lenses instead of manual focus primes
Just wanted to quickly say, do not be afraid of old gear. I still regularly use my Canon 7D from 2009 on professional shoots and clients are still thrilled with the results. You can get a 7D on eBay for about $300 US for the body only and a good lens for about the same. if it's good enough for me, a full time professional with a studio charging over $1000 a day to shoot with it, it is definitely enough for a beginner 😁
I second this, maybe not the A7 series because lenses are usually north or 1k themselves but I do have an A7RII myself. I personally think mirrorless is the way to go. A6400 is a solid choice.
I bought the A6000 years ago and it was probably one of the best investments I made.
What's a good beginner lens? I have an old Sony A7 (mark 1) with Sony 55/1,8 and then a cheap Rokinon 24/2,8. Good enough to start with? IDK what I even want pictures off but it'll probably be my kids and random leaves on the ground,
Read a few guides regarding the best mirrorless camera for a beginner and everything seems to point towards the Sony A6000. I also saw the Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II as being a good choice, and found one for a great price [here] (https://www.adorama.com/iomem10m3bk.html?CategoryID=240617). Anything wrong with the Olympus at this price, or should I just get the Sony?
UPDATE: Thanks all for the feedback. I am going to go ahead with the Olympus based on my novice status. Will this come back and bite me in the ass in a few years? Possibly...but stay tuned. Thanks again and looking forward to being a part of this community.
I shoot Sony now but started with a Fujifilm X-T1. I adapted vintage glass to it. With manual controls over the exposure triangle it was like learning photography on an SLR without the cost of developing film.
I am now moving into Sony Full Frame Mirrorless. If Fuji offered full frame I'd be sticking with them.
I did the same, except i never left fuji. The manual controls are great when learning and still great when you know what you are doing. A different user experience to any other brand.
Nah Fuji makes you choose either crop sensor or medium format
Because crop and medium format, where Fuji has a strong position, aren't as heavily contested as full frame, where it would take huge investments for Fuji to try to establish itself.
I shoot with Olympus. I like that it is super light so I can easily carry it around when I go to work or shopping - it fits any bag I am using.
I have read that M43 has reached the capabilities of the technology in terms of resolution and sensitivity, but they have really nice lenses that are also not expensive.
Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with the technology limits right now. I have a one-meter (3 feet) print I took on a 16 megapixel M43 camera. It is more than enough. I also never shoot over 6400 iso and even my older Oly (EP-L5) was good enough for it. I just bought a newer one as I was missing some features, like menu customization and a viewfinder.
For me the biggest limitation with m43 is the DOF and low light performance. The sensors are getting better but they'll always be at a pretty significant disadvantage as there just isn't as much light hitting the sensor. Also, they just physically can't get as shallow a DOF as a full-frame which can be pretty frustrating especially if you're used to it. Probably not deciding factors, but both make a surprising difference in the right circumstances.
What are you shooting where you need super shallow DoF? I've only ever shot with the olympus but I'm thinking of moving to Sony FF.
I'm strugging with the low light capabilities of the Oly, but I also don't want to spend a good chunk of my house deposit :(
Wow. That's an amazing price for the E-M10, even if a generation older.
I would get the Oly just because of IBIS. It's super easy to use all sorts of adapted lenses, many truly excellent, on a M43, especially with IBIS and especially since the Oly's have very good focus peaking. So you hardly notice the lack of AF on adapted lenses for lots of shooting like landscape, macro, night, etc.
A feature comparison: https://cameradecision.com/compare/Sony-Alpha-a6000-vs-Olympus-OM-D-E-M10-II
Both are great cameras. The advantage of the Olympus is that it has a great in body stabilization, which is helpful to take handheld photos at lowlight or at night, while the Sony has a bigger sensor, meaning that it captures more light.
Fuji X-T1 is also a great first mirrorless camera but I may be biased as it was my first. Love that camera to death and still use it frequently even though I've "upgraded" and have multiple cameras on hand. There are a few floating around photomarket as we speak!
what is the best mirrorless camera for beginners?
Key Considerations for Choosing a Beginner Mirrorless Camera:
Ease of Use: Look for a camera with an intuitive interface and user-friendly controls. A touchscreen can also enhance usability.
Image Quality: Consider cameras with larger sensors (APS-C or Micro Four Thirds) for better image quality, especially in low light.
Autofocus System: A good autofocus system is crucial for capturing sharp images. Look for cameras with fast and reliable autofocus, especially if you plan to shoot moving subjects.
Video Capabilities: If you’re interested in video, check for 4K recording options and good stabilization features.
Lens Availability: Ensure the camera has a variety of lenses available for different shooting styles, from wide-angle to telephoto.
Budget: Set a budget that includes not just the camera body but also lenses and accessories.
Recommendations:
Sony Alpha a6000: This is a great entry-level option with a 24.3 MP APS-C sensor, fast autofocus, and a compact design. It offers excellent image quality and a wide range of lenses.
Canon EOS M50 Mark II: Known for its user-friendly interface, this camera has a 24.1 MP APS-C sensor, good autofocus, and solid video capabilities (including 4K). It’s a great choice for both photography and vlogging.
Fujifilm X-T200: This camera combines retro styling with modern features. It has a 24.2 MP sensor, excellent color reproduction, and a lightweight design, making it perfect for beginners.
Takeaway: Each of these cameras offers a balance of quality, features, and ease of use, making them ideal for beginners. Consider your specific needs (photography vs. video, portability, etc.) when making your choice.
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