In the US Jaguars often depreciate quite rapidly, even more than Mercedes and on par with some BMW models. That being said, used Jags are often a great value for the money provided they have been properly maintained.

Bentley, Aston, Ferrari etc are top tier.

Jaguar is a competitor of Lexus, BMW, MB, Audi, Cadillac etc. Jags are not cheaper than BMWs, lol. Depends on the model, drivetrain etc.

I don’t think you can compare a Jag to a Bentley or Aston. They’re in a different level of luxury. This discussion is from a few years ago but I think it’s still valid now.

I tend to think of Jags as being on the same tier as a BMW or Merc. You actually listed BMW in the things you said a Jag is cheaper than. Is a Jag really cheaper than a BMW? In the UK, Jaguar XF starts at £35,100, BMW 3 Series starts at £37,805. I’d say they’re close enough as to not make a difference once you start adding options on? Edit: several people have replied saying an XF should be compared to a 5 series, not a 3 series. That would make the BMW a little more expensive than the Jag.

I'd say an XF should be compared to a 5-series and an XE to a 3-series actually

Have you looked back at the 70's and 80's, there's a big electric smear on its reputation.

Congrats! You’ll love every minute of driving it. Just take care of the coolant pipes before they fail

Way to go, SilverFox, very nice!!

I’m jealous…

Sweet

Bravo, a lovely car!

Jaguar owner here. As someone noted, they aren't selling cars anymore. Moving to EVs.

I got into Jaguars due to good experience with Range Rovers; which uses the same stout reliable AMV8 block.
I've owned numerous Range Rovers/Land Rovers in excess of 100k miles and long term ownership.

That V8 is pretty much bullet proof. The transmission is ZF-8. Again pretty stout. The electronics can be iffy and other things. Knock on wood, I have not had any problems except when due to low voltage (time to replace batteries).

What drew me to Jaguars? The super charged v8. When it first was shown in S-Type Type R (ugly car). Then the XF-R, XJ-Rs. Basically all the Type Rs are awesome.

So I have a 550 HP, F-Type R. It does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds. It can reach 198 MPH with P-Zero trires. Is as good handling as a Porsche 911 Carrera S? No, but it has a throaty v8. Google any video or article about the exhaust. It is legendary. Here is one: https://www.jalopnik.com/the-jaguar-f-type-r-coupe-is-a-spectacle-for-everyone-b-1783677469/

And again, hear it in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx6sA-q7fUs and another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvrxil7KpJU
and this one: https://youtu.be/nPkpntQOn5U?t=152

What do they all say? One of the best sounding car in the world. "So obnoxious" sounding.

I can't even explain how it feels. Very hard to describe that visceral feeling and pumping of adrenaline.
And quite simply, the F-Type is one of the most gorgeous cars ever design. It is a neck turner and stunning. Even after 8 years of ownership.

My first exposure to this was with a 2013 XF-R in that loud Jaguar blue. The first time i drove it, it literally pushed me back to the seat.

So I have a high revving, loud supercharged V8 that I will never let go of. With the transition to electrification, I'll keep this brutish beast of a car indefinitely.

RR sells much better than Jaguar though. I see plenty of rich housewives in RRs but Jaguars in general are rarer.

Age is a factor. For a very long time (like from the 50's until probably 10-15 years ago) Jags were highly desirable cars for people who had enough $$$ to insulate themselves from any reliability issues and wanted a car with a great engine paired with a softer ride and better looks than any of the competing Germans.

I'm old enough that when I hear the word Jag the image that pops into my head is gorgeous car with a great engine---that will be extremely unreliable and expensive to fix. And really if you only kept them 2-3 years you probably didn't have to deal with the reliability issues, it usually takes even British electronics that long to corrode enough to start to sperg out.

Bought an F-Type because they are different, and not too many of them around. Do I get another corvette that every boomer owns? Or something a bit more unique? Been a great reliable summer/weekend car. So good that I’m going to purchase an F-Pace SVR so I can enjoy driving just as much in the winter months.

I wish f/epace was the turning point for jag.  Such a great looking car

Nobody

Jaguar stopped production of gas cars in 2024

They claim they plan to sell EVs in the future

I bought an F Type just because it was different. Really enjoyed it for a few years, had no real problems. They’re fantastic cars and I frankly miss it.

Isn't Waymo recently made a partnership deal with Toyota?

I tested Waymo in San-Francisco last year and I did like Jags, but that tells very little from the ownership perspective.

Have you ever said Jaguar in your head with an English accent? Luxurious

Both the xf and the f-type is one of the most beautiful cars out there, and f-pace is peak suv. What are we talking about here.

Yea they really haven’t shown much love to Jaguar and their own god damn cars

E-Pace introduced in 2017. I-Pace in 2018. Otherwise, yeah :(

I only recalled them, cause I've had both hah. F-Type is my true baby though.

Because they are totally overhauling the brand. It takes time to design and manufacture new car lines. Especially when you go from what they were building to what is coming next.

I mean a classic e-type is arguably the best looking jag ever and one of the best looking cars ever

I own a F Type R, but the E-Type is my future old man drive around town on the weekend retirement car. It's beautiful.

As a former F-Type owner who is also biased, I’m gonna have to disagree with you this one

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I might be biased too, I think the XKR is the best looking modern-day Jaguar.

Always look back at my F-Type after I park it. That’s the measure of a car’s beauty

Super car in its day,change all fluids and watch the coolant lines. Go to Jaguar forums to get real info on your ride

So one thing to be aware of…I have one of these, and it also encounter the notorious green shower of death… What that means is the top unless the prior owner changed it out is going to fail on you. I had to put a new hydraulic cables And I went ahead and put a new pistons as well. The overall cost of that was right around 2000.00 but I got really good hydraulic cables out of think it was Washington state or maybe Oregon… Anyway, I had a jag dealership put them in but they were so impressed with these cables that they wanted to know where I bought them from so they could use them as well

Good news is there is a manual override for your locking mechanism which is where notoriously blows there’s a little cap up there at the top above the mirror, there’s a little plug you pull out then a big Allen wrench should be in your glove compartment box. If not, my suggestion is you go get one that fits… But that’s the only issue I’ve had out of this car in March 2001.

Let me know if you need me to dig out the name of that company where I bought the hydraulics from… They were awesome to deal with

Ah, yes. The brave pill. Well done!

Bollocks to expense what a first car! I had a 4 speed vauxhall nova hahaha

I did all cables and the pistons to be on safe side

I know nothing about cars but I know - No Eco-boost, no Range Rover, no ingenium jaguar. Missing anything?

parents have been driving a V70 with that 1.6 ecoboost for years. probably the best car i've ever been in or driven by some margin.

Yeah I’m broke because I don’t want to be spending what a shitbox is worth on maintenance every year, good man

Jaguar and Land rover are the ultimate adventure cars! Every morning is an adventure! Will the car start? Will it get to work? Will the check engine light go away?

Cheap ≠ affordable

Got the only color a Jaguar should be!!

Beautiful spec! I have an 03 STR in black.an absolute joy to drive at any speed despite needing some work.

I recommend looking out for any oil leaks by removing the under-engine cover. Mine disguised a big leak for some time. It ended up just being my valve cover & spark plug seals ($80 replacement parts from Mahle).

Probably the most expensive maintenance part that is likely to give you issues are the shocks (assuming you have the electronic ones) bleeding over time & control arms. Everything else has been really strong. Also don't touch the transmission fluid unless it starts giving you problems & if you need to change it, only use Lifeguard 6 from ZF.

Other than that, enjoy!! They're awesome cars.

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This is my type r

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This is a lovely looking car, I also have an S Type but not the R

I know a guy who, in the early 2000's, bought a used Mercedes Diesel... an 80's model. He almost literally got it for a song (it cost him a small performance and $400), as he busked for a living. He tore the front passenger seat out so his big dog was comfortable, and drove the thing cross country from Florida to Oregon, running it on filtered used fryer oil he'd barter/trade/busk for along the way from restaurants and bars.

What's the point? You can turn any vehicle into somewhere comfortable to live. Just look at r/priusdwellers if you want to see what can be done with limited space. And if it is comfortable enough, you can do long term.

I once bought a used Ford E-250 that had previously been an HVAC truck. There was a wall of really small shelves on the driver's side, made of angle iron and 9/16" bolts and nuts. I disassembled the shelves, and used the angle iron to build a bed frame, bigger deeper shelves, and storage above and below the bed... and the bed surface was made up of a square maple dining table that I could pull out of the shelves and attach the legs to when I needed. Outside the van, of course. I bought it in 2006 for $300, and I lived in it for just shy of 3 years.

The vehicle that fits your budget and lifestyle, is the best budget vehicle. Seriously. Your budget is different from mine. If you are living in a vehicle because you'd be in a tent on the streets otherwise, then some used beater that runs ends up being the best budget vehicle. If you are tired of the rent rat race, and you can't get into the inflated property prices and taxes... but you have a job that would not suffer if you lived in a vehicle... then maybe purchasing a van that has already had a conversion done is in your budget... something brand new with warranties and service plans, etc. Maybe you can afford a diesel/electric hybrid that will allow you an incredible range, with the addition of solar panels, for just a pittance towards fuel costs.

Minivans are cheap and spacious.

Older japanese suvs have reliable engines and can traverse forest roads

Hybrids are cheap on gas and the prius at least allows you to run the engine all night without it draining the battery OR running the engine constantly.

"budget" and "live in" mean different things to different people. Are you talking a thousand dollars or 10 thousand? Stealth in the city or boondocking? Driving around the country or staying close to a long-term job? Pets or partners? The best vehicle for one person would work awfully for another...

[edit: personally I loooove my honda element, can't not mention my box. But the mpg is horrible lol. Lots of room, back seats come out easily, and the awd is perfect for backwoods living. Older crvs and rav-4s (and 4runners) are similar, in both the good and the bad]

Anything Toyota.

tesla model y

> What is the best budget vehicle to live in long term?

The paid-off and well-maintained vehicle you already own.