TL;DR
Versatility and Functionality
The Drinkmate Omnifizz stands out for its ability to carbonate a variety of liquids beyond just water, such as juices and other beverages [2:1],
[4:3]. It offers flexibility in terms of flavoring options, allowing users to add flavors before carbonation
[4:10]. This makes it a popular choice among users who want more than just carbonated water.
Style and Reliability
For those looking for a stylish and reliable option, the Aarke Carbonators are highly recommended. They have been praised for their design and durability [1:8],
[4:7]. Users appreciate the aesthetic appeal and the fact that it doesn't suffer from common issues like water leakage or CO2 bottle inefficiencies found in some SodaStream models
[4:7].
Basic Functionality and Longevity
SodaStream remains a popular choice for those seeking a straightforward solution for carbonating water. Many users have reported long-term satisfaction with basic models, citing their simplicity and effectiveness [3:1],
[5:5]. The Wirecutter recommends the SodaStream Source for its balance of price and performance
[5:2].
DIY Options
For individuals interested in DIY setups, there are various home brewing methods available. These typically involve using larger CO2 cylinders and custom fittings to create a more robust carbonation system [1:7],
[5:3]. While these setups can be less stylish, they offer cost-effective solutions with potentially higher carbonation levels.
Considerations Beyond the Discussions
When selecting a carbonated water maker, consider factors such as ease of use, maintenance requirements, and the availability of CO2 refills. If environmental impact is a concern, opting for machines that use larger CO2 cylinders or alternative carbonation methods can reduce waste. Additionally, if you prefer flavored sparkling water, ensure the machine supports flavor additions either before or after carbonation.
We drink a ridiculous amount of carbonated water. I'm embarrassed to tell you how many liters we drink as a family per week, but whatever you're thinking, double that at least. I'm looking for something more durable and long lasting than a Soda Stream. A big, bad, BIFL carbonated water maker. Any recommendations?
Side note: We have purchased a few commercial grade products for our home and never regretted it. The commercial Kitchen Aid with 7 qt capacity, extra long cord, and safety cage has been used 2-3 times per week for 12 years without fail. Go big, or go home!
EDIT: Thank you all for your helpful advice and links! The plan is to go DIY, with a focus on longevity with high-quality parts. If that ever fails or becomes a burden, we may just treat ourselves to the extra fancy options that also include the boiling water option. Cheers! 💧
Kitchenaid makes a sodastream refiller! We have had one for years and it is definitely bifl quality. I also go through a ridiculous amount of fizzy water...I have a basic setup at work too.
Kitchenaid
Something like the KitchenAid Onyx Black?
https://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-Sparkling-Beverage-Maker-Renewed/dp/B091DDQ8RS?th=1
DIY with a 5-lb CO2 cylinder and a few home brewing fittings. Not the most stylish solution, but bulletproof and unit cost per liter is miniscule.
If you want it stylish, I paired a 10lb CO2 tank with a hose that connects into a DrinkMate (similar to SodaStream, but better imo). The tank is hidden inside a little standalone coffee cabinet thing that I drilled a hole in the back of. The hose goes through the hole out the back and into the bottom of the DrinkMate that sits on top of the coffee cabinet thing.
Do you turn off the 10lb CO2 tank between fills, or are the fittings tight enough that you don't worry about losses? I have been considering attaching my 20lb CO2 tank directly to a sparkling water maker (SodaStream, DrinkMate), but I've seen several people say you should turn off the large tank between usage, and, well, I'm lazy and don't want to do that. I could probably install a ball valve easily enough, but who wants to do that?
Hmmm, Maybe Home Assistant can detect that I am nearby and open a valve, then close it when I go away! Ultimate lazy!
Was going to suggest something like this. I have a friend who was sick of going through tons of the soda stream cartridges so he found someone who knew how to connect the 5lb cylinders and save a ton. I wish I could tell you exactly how to but it can be done
Yeah. I don't remember the exact instructions I originally followed, buy my rig looks nearly identical to the one here: http://beverages.qule.org/articles/carbonation-redux/
The one problem I had was with the carbonation cap that screws onto the soda bottle. The first one I tried was a no-name stainless one, and it always would blow out the sealing washer when unscrewing it. Replaced with one from Ferroday and it's been trouble-free.
Check out the Aarke Carbonators. I have this on my wish list.
What CO2 connection do they use, the SodaStream screw type? Or are they proprietary?
Any home brewing shop can hook you up. You are essentially wanting to make a kegerator but use water instead and crank up the PSI. Buy a 2.5 gallon corny keg and you can convert a mini fridge. Maybe $150-$200 not including fridge. I converted an old kegerator to a carbonated water setup since my family used so much. Filled the keg with RO water and hit it with 30 psi to carbonate for a few days. Turn down a bit to serve. Fridge is necessary as you need to keep the liquid water cool to carbonate more easily.
There’s some good instructables about doing this with a beer tap, fridge, carbonator and CO2 tank. Sort of a residential version of a more commercial setup. I did this without the fridge and planning to add fridge to increase carbonation.
I tried two different carbonators. I’d recommend the one called Big Mac or something like that. The fridge is setup a kegerator and affects how bubbly the water can get - restaurants use something called a remote chiller, but found them to be a little too pricey (and they have to be stainless steel b/c copper and carbonation create carbonic acid that is no good)
There’s also some “home carbonator kits” on eBay that let you use larger CO2 bottle to either carbonate water or refill smaller bottles. Not a bad option
Hello,
I am buying my husband a carbonator for his birthday, he loves drinking sparkling water. The more carbonated the better. I’ve been doing research, I’ve narrowed down to Ninja Thirsti or Drinkmate Omnifizz. I’d like comparisons of those brands, I’m also open to other carbonates on the market. He’s buying 3 to 4 2L per week, his favorite right now is Kroger brand. He’ll drink European brands if he can get his hands on them. He’s very particular on higher carbonation and mineral content. He prefers his sparkling water to be cold, he’ll cool it down himself before carbonating. I wouldn’t mind being able to carbonate water or my own soda every once in awhile for myself. Versatility, carbonation, longevity, value, and reduced amount of CO2 usage are priorities.
Thank you!
Have you looked at Sparkel? Their carbonator uses citric acid and baking soda so you don't have to get CO2 refills.
It does take a little more time (about 4 min a bottle) to carbonate because you have the reaction and pump operating.
I didn’t like soda streams but I do like my ninja thirsti. I think it tastes better.
I just fizzed drinkmate with a few ice cubes. I like to live dangerously.
I have an Aarke carbonater pro which I really enjoy, but if I were to buy one again it would be the Drinkmate Omnifizz or Lux because they can carbonate juice and other liquids beyond just water.
I am looking for a reliable machine that would allow me to make simple highly carbonated water that I can put into ideally glass or steel bottles and take with me.
Any suggestions? I have taken a look at soda stream but been reading issues about reliability of the machine.
Soda stream plus it promotes peace in the Middle East
I have a drink mate and love it
We have the most basic soda stream that was on clearance at wal mart for about $50. It downs do any flavors, just carbonates water and it came with 2 nice glass bottles. For the price I have no complaints!
I have recently become obsessed with Bubly and AHA sparkling water. A friend recommended a Soda Stream but there are so many options I am a bit overwhelmed! Any tips or advice on various models and/or zero-calorie flavors are appreciated!
Look at a Drinkmate too. I like it better than the sodastream I had. Plus you can flavor your water before you carbonate instead of after unlike the sodastream.
I am a recent convert to DrinkMate. Overall a much better device. I like carbonating low sugar V8 fruit juices.
As a recent Drinkmate convert, how do I carbonate juice without the thing fizzing over? I followed the instructions, but it still explodes over.
Release the pressure more slowly or carbonate less.
When I carbonate pineapple juice it takes a lot of small bursts of the silver button. I can almost never use the blue button.
Different juices carbonate differently. But I usually fill mine to about 600ml in the 1L bottle. Carbonate in very short bursts, so you can watch the foam level. Once you hear the hiss from the fizz infuser the foam will start to rise on its own as its venting some gas. So you should stop and let the hissing subside before adding more pumps.
Thank you! I am curious about a Drinkmate. I had not heard of it in my (very limited) investigation. Do you buy flavors for water on Sodastream website or something else? Do you put flavors into the water before carbonating/does brand of flavors matter?
I put mine in before. You can’t with the sodastream. I use all different flavorings. True lemon and true lime flavors, bubbly makes concentrated syrups, and I use some of the soda stream ones. My kids like it when I make cream soda for them.
My SodaStream failed by CO2 bottle 4.
I use this Aarke thing pretty much every day. We drink a lot of sparkling water at our house, both plain and lightly flavored with Torani raspberry syrup. Having used a SodaStream unit for years, I had long had issues with water leakage and, more annoyingly, with it running out of steam while ¼ of the CO2 bottle was still left. This is because that SodaStream model relies on gas pressure to maintain a seal, so as the gas cylinder's pressure drops, the unit will no longer seal properly.
The Aarke is expensive. No doubt. But its design and manufacture warrant this. First of all, it's made from metal, so it just looks and feels as if it is a much higher quality unit. It's something you won't mind having on your counter. The real game-changer, however, is the fact that the water bottles actually screw into the unit, which means you don't rely on cylinder pressure to maintain a seal. This means it does not leak and that you get much more gas from you cylinders than you would with a SodaStream. These two benefits make it worth it to me. But again, I'm what you might call a power user. If you're only using a SodaStream once a week or less, it may not be worth it for you.
One other benefit: the Aarke system is compatible with existing SodaStream bottles and gas cylinders, which means you can find them at many local retailers, including Bed, Bath & Beyond, Target, World Market, etc. And those stores do a deal where you can bring in a spent cylinder and get 50 percent off your purchase of your next one. This is both good for your wallet and the planet. And being good for the planet is one of the main reasons to make your own fizzy water rather than buying it in plastic bottles that inevitably end up in a landfill or in the ocean.
Hey, did you decide on a model? I'm considering this one from Breville but not sure if it's worth it.
Looking into purchasing a sparkling water machine (Sodastream or equivalent) to save time, avoid can/plastic waste and potentially save money. Does anyone have a sparkling water maker they love? What are the best brands and models to buy?
Wirecutter recommends sodastream source for $100. https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-soda-maker/
This might not be what you want but... You won't get more sustainable than this: https://www.seriouseats.com/2014/06/pros-cons-diy-carbonation-rig-how-to-carbonate-cocktails-at-home-equipment-how-to-build-cheaper-sodastream-replacement.html
Thanks for your input! I’ve looked into devices like this and/or making my own but those co2 cartridges aren’t rated as “food grade” so as far as I know it’s not safe to make sparkling water with them.
The propane tank at your local BBQ or on your grill isn't labeled as food grade but you cook with it.
Don't make assumptions because you don't know how gas works. It's fine
I’ve had the same soda stream since 2002 or maybe 2003. No fancy lights or anything, but it’s lasted more than a decade. That’s pretty impressive.
That’s awesome! Thank you! Do you know what “model” of sodastream it is? There are several out there now!
Not sure which model (there weren’t options when I bought it), but get something that takes the bigger co2 cylinder.
Does anyone have recommendations for a good soda maker? I know of Sodastream but that's about it. I remember Greg from How To Drink commented on one of his videos that he liked another brand (Drink Mate maybe?) better than Sodastream.
Any recommendations are appreciated. I'm looking to mostly just carbonate water for high-balls.
Make your own home co2 setup! I'm still in the research phase myself buy plan on this being one of my winter projects. I want to make high balls, campari sodas, mojitos, and cut out the $5-10/week La Croix bill.
Was initially going to buy a sodastream but I don't like the idea of being locked into proprietary and expensive co2 tank refills. Also many people observe that you can get more highly concentrated and tasty bubbly with your own tank as compared to a retail countertop product.
I plan on following this guideline.
For the same cost as a Soda Stream Bundle, $150ish will get you a much more robust solution. Jeff Morgenthaler lays it out in this post. A tank of CO₂ should last you years.
Drinkmate has the added benefit of being able to carbonate liquids other than water.
I have the Drinkmate and I love it. I'm able to fully carbonate a Tom Collins or a mojito, revive flat Spritzes and beer too. I can also make sparkling negronis, which you should not do because they are too much fun and easy to drink.
Im currently borrowing a friend's sodastream, but I've tried the Drinkmate and it is much nicer to handle and has those advantages you both point out -- I plan to buy it when I get a chance. I understand the suggestion of Morgenthaler's system others are making, but its much easier to handle a countertop model if you have to move. The Drinkmate gets my vote.
Lol mate all soda makers can carbonate ANY liquid
not true… reviews say carbonating juices or other drinks clogs the nozzle and sodastream explicitly lists anything other than water will void the warranty
have fun cleaning up your Sodastream afterward
At the moment I have a Sodastream but this point is getting me to buy a Drinkmate or an Sage the Infizz Fusion. Wondering wich is better.
All I can say is that this Aarke brand is the BEST. First off, it looks like a statement piece, like a high end appliance, with a finish like a kitchen aid mixer. I got the white color since it goes with everything. There really aren’t any plastic pieces everywhere like the other one’s entire body. To put the gas cylinder in, you just insert it in the hole in the bottom of the unit and screw it in. Super easy. You don’t have to angle it in or something else stupid. The only drawback at all I would say is that the unit isn’t well weighted, not even with the cylinder in. It stands just fine and functions perfectly without having to hold the machine but I just wish there was more of a weighted bottom to be extra sturdy. Finally, the bottle it very chique, not like the other ones at ALL, BUT the other brand of bottles DO FIT PERFECTLY! Pay attention to the expiration dates on the bottle since it could be dangerous otherwise. I would never buy the other one again, ever. The carbonation is even better. Get a few new gas cylinders from the store so you will never run out and you can just exchange the cylinders.
I have one of those - it's good for the occasional use. Soda stream always seemed so junky in comparison.
You can also buy adapters to connect a large co2 tank to some soda stream machines or to refill sodastream bottles from the larger tank (my current solution)
Build your own. All of these machines have stupidly overpriced refills.
Interesting. Did you do this?
No, but all you need is a co2 tank, a regulator, hoses, and the bottle adapter.
SodaStream for example wants $30 for a 14oz 'bottle' of CO2.
Normal refills are like $25 for a 20lb cylinder.
Soda stream crystal 2.0, with fancy Glas bottles and we have a adapter to refill co2 from a 10kg tank initial cost was about 200€ and we are drinking sparkling tab water since 2,5years now.
Also even my wife agreed to this I do the refills we have two cylinders in rotation. I have to deep freeze them to fill them up properly.
My name is Etzel_ and I'm a seltzer addict.
I have a drinkmate and it's the bee's knees. It's the rebranded iSoda and it's cheaper than the soda stream. I have two 20 oz paintball CO2 tanks and an adapter for $15 on Amazon.
Each tank lasts about a month and cost around $5 to refill. Definitely worth it. Here's the adapter:
Sellution CO2 Tank Paintball Canister Refill Adapter C02 Conversion - Polished Brass https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IAJZUIU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aMFRCbK33Q1V3
Most sodastreams are essentially the same, so if you get one just look for the best price. To get cheap refills without buying extra equipment, use dry ice. You can open the canister and fill it with 14 oz of dry ice and it will perform just like a regular refill. The only outlay would be for a wrench to open the bottle if you don't already have one. Dry ice is a couple bucks a lb at many grocery stores.
Sodastream with an adaptor to use standard CO2 containers instead of their proprietary overpriced containers. I expect this comment to be downvoted to oblivion by the Sodastream shills who desperately want to prevent the use of adaptors.
Does some place sell such an adapter?
Here you go my friend, enjoy your limitless seltzer!
Sellution CO2 Tank Paintball Canister Refill Adapter C02 Conversion - Polished Brass https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IAJZUIU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aMFRCbK33Q1V3
they are all over Ebay. Made of brass so they last forever. refills are super cheap at your local sport shop. just get one or more 24 oz containers and they last a long time, or get a tank if you have the room and you're set for a year or more depending on use.
Sodastream shill here. My wife and I used the heck outta our Sodastream to help with our weight loss a few years ago. Instead of using the Sodastream flavors, we use Mio. Orange Vanilla is amazing and now we have a zero calorie soda.
Anyway, we still use it two or three times a day. If there's a way we can stop having to exchange carbonator bottles all the time, I'm all ears.
Considering getting a sodastream but I read the canisters are expensive so a lot of people rig up their own bigger gas canister… heard about a couple alternative companies with the same kinda thing as well.
If you plan on carbonating water a lot, or doing it for a long period of time, you should look into a DIY setup that includes a CO2 tank, regulator, hoses etc. I used to have a sodastream and it worked well, but the costs associated with the tanks are crazy. I purchased the items described above for a DIY setup and will have payed them off in one year as compared to the cost of soda stream refills. Bonus you can carbonate other liquids with this setup like cocktails, juices etc.
Sound like an interesting alternative. Do you mind sharing a link, brand or guide on how to do this?
It's very easy, I did it years ago and we still use it all the time. Basically you just need 4 things - a CO2 tank, a regulator, a connecting hose, and a carbonation cap. Total one-time cost for the pneumatic components was only about $60-70 for me, and the tank was about $80 for the first one, but only $20 for refills and each tank lasts us 3-4 months.
Here's a link to a guide, there are also many Youtube videos showing the assembly process, if you prefer that. Hope this helps!
https://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2012-06/how-make-your-own-home-carbonation-syst
You can get sodastream cannisters refilled by a third party. I have done this. You can get adapters to convert a paintball CO2 cannister to sodastream also.
You can also unscrew the valve on the top and fill them with dry ice by weight. I cut out some wooden blocks so that I can hold the bottles in a vice and unscrew the valve. Pellet dry ice is much easier to use than having to crush blocks of dry ice.
That’s waaaaay more expensive than just getting a bottle bigger than the minimum charge refilled. Single canister…I guess but the pressure will be shit.
I have a drink mate I like, and I use indigo refills. Costs about 12$/refill.
Yeah, you can use Indigo refills with Sodastream, so it's basically 12$ every 3 months, 50$/year for unlimited on-demand sparkling water.
What I'm learning from this Reddit post is I have a serious carbonated beverage addiction. I'm lucky if a 60l tank lasts me 2 or 3 weeks. (Though I also bubble the living hell out of my water).
The value of drink mate is you can carbonate anything in it, not just water.
Get the sodaatream then get the adapter to refill on a regular co2 tank from a home brewing store. The prefilled co2 bottles are a scam.
Yep. Have had the original one for three years now and love it. The one thing to note is you’re not supposed to carbonate any flavors in it, you mix after.
I've been wanting a SodaStream or something like it so I can save money, reduce waste, and make my own sodas. But reviews of SodaStream say it only works for about three years. Is there another brand which is a good alternative?
I’ve had my SodaStream for 13 years. At one point the o-ring went bad, and the company replaced it for free.
I would not purchase one again due to BDS, but I just wanted to clarify the idea that they only last 3 years. That is not my experience.
Wanna save money? If you live in a big city there could be dri ice suppliers that sell rice grain dri ice. I buy $10 bucks worth, and open the top of the co2 canister and pour in the dri ice pellets.
Once the cap is sealed the dri ice in the canister melts into gas and pressurizes the tank. Its much more complicated than this, and I own about 14 soda stream tanks (purchased cheap, off market place) that make the whole endeavor worthwhile. I make, in savings, about $150 per hour off refilling my own . Each bottle uses about $1 of dri ice
I think it's that the plastic bottles for the soda stream expire after a few years, if you get one of the higher end models with the glass bottles you will be good.
I've had mine maybe 10 years.
Beer keg, 10lb CO2 canister, CO2 regulator.
https://www.northernbrewer.com/products/draft-brewer-single-keg-system
You can also get the same stuff from any local wine/beer homebrew supply if you want to support a local place. You'll need to swap out CO2 bottles anyway.
After you're happy with it, you can next-level it with one of these:
https://www.morebeer.com/products/continuous-soda-carbonator-keg-lid.html
SodaStream - have had mine for 6 yrs. BDS is a bunch of bs. We should be boycotting a ton of other countries if we are that concerned about human rights.
Other nations aren't actively genociding entire nations or those who disagree with them...
Since October 7, Israel’s objective in Gaza has been to destroy Hamas who that carried out a brutal massacre against its people, including infants, children, elderly and disabled people. The goal of Hamas is to wipe Israel and Jews off the map, and its representatives have recently reiterated that they will never stop pursuing it. That’s an example of genocidal intent.
Like the title. I'm reading about SodaStreams being designed to be replaced. I was looking at the aarke, which looks nice, but had some not so great reviews concerning servicability. I'd like something that has some life to it, so im not just dumping a big hunk of plastic every couple years. If thats the case I don't really see the benefit over buying cans.
Modern Sodastream devices are relatively simple parts, mostly comprised of plastic injection-molded parts.
There really is only one part which commonly fails - the plunger pin assembly. There are 3D models online and easy to print a replacement part if necessary to rebuild.
I have a six year old Sodastream which I've been using almost daily ever since and it's still going strong.
is this a part thats easily replaceable in all soda stream models?
So Sodastream devices these days are made with mostly injection molded plastic as mentioned. They are made to snap together with minimal screws and such.
I have never done these repairs, but if the part went together, it should come apart again in the same way it went together (I have not seen any evidence of glues used in the construction of these sodastreams)
There are many different 3D printers on the market including some industrial printers capable of printing parts in glass-infused-nylon and aluminum, steel, titanium, etc.
Theoretically you could even upgrade/replace the OEM parts with replacements which are made with higher quality heavier-duty raw materials if you wanted to spend enough money
Here's some examples of replacement parts available on Thingiverse for download and printing:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2413389
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4556427
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2966306
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2447477
Naturally these parts are not all interchangeable with every sodastream. But these days you can easily find someone with CAD skills on a 3D printer group willing to whip up a replacement model if you have the broken original part for them to reference for the design - it's even easier if you have an alternative 3D model like the ones linked above for reference when they're redesigning.
Alternatively, check ebay for older Sodastream units. Sodastream was founded in 1903 - it is an OLD company. They have been around a long time. Kitchenaid made some really spiffy looking sodastream units years ago, but I don't know how they'd hold up over the long run.
Buy the ones that restaurants get from coke or Pepsi?
I have a super no frills drinkmate and love it. Nothing on it to break. Weve had it about four years now, never anything gone wrong.
best carbonated water maker
Key Considerations for Choosing a Carbonated Water Maker:
Ease of Use: Look for a model that is simple to operate, ideally with a one-touch button for carbonation.
Carbonation Levels: Some machines allow you to customize the level of carbonation, which can be a great feature if you prefer your drinks lightly or highly carbonated.
CO2 Cylinder Size: Check the size of the CO2 cylinder and how many liters of sparkling water it can produce before needing a replacement. Larger cylinders can save you money and reduce the frequency of replacements.
Design and Size: Consider the design and footprint of the machine, especially if you have limited counter space. A sleek, compact design can be more appealing.
Compatibility with Bottles: Ensure the machine is compatible with the type of bottles you want to use. Some models come with reusable bottles, while others may require specific types.
Price and Warranty: Evaluate the price point and check if the manufacturer offers a warranty for peace of mind.
Recommendations:
SodaStream Fizzi: This is one of the most popular options. It’s user-friendly, compact, and allows you to customize carbonation levels. The CO2 cylinder can carbonate up to 60 liters of water.
Aarke Carbonator II: Known for its sleek stainless steel design, this model is durable and offers a premium feel. It also provides excellent carbonation and is compatible with standard CO2 cylinders.
Drinkmate: This model stands out because it can carbonate not just water but also juices, tea, and other beverages, giving you more versatility.
Takeaway: If you want a reliable and easy-to-use carbonated water maker, the SodaStream Fizzi is a great choice for most users. If aesthetics and build quality are more important to you, consider the Aarke Carbonator II.
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