TL;DR
Hydrochloric Acid-Based Cleaners
For tackling severe stains, especially those caused by hard water, hydrochloric acid-based cleaners are highly effective. Products such as The Works toilet bowl cleaner and ZEP Acidic Toilet Bowl Cleaner have been praised for their ability to remove calcium and lime deposits [1:1]
[1:4]. These products should be used with caution and proper ventilation due to their strong chemical nature.
Vinegar and CLR
Vinegar is a versatile cleaning agent that can handle many types of stains. It is particularly effective when allowed to soak on the stained area for several hours or overnight [1:6]
[5:8]. CLR (Calcium Lime Rust remover) is another popular choice for dealing with mineral buildup and rust stains
[2:5]
[3:3]. Both vinegar and CLR can be used in combination with pumice stones for enhanced cleaning power.
Pumice Stones
Pumice stones are frequently recommended for removing stubborn stains without scratching the porcelain surface of the toilet bowl [1:5]
[5:9]. They are especially useful for hard water rings and other persistent marks. It's important to wet the pumice stone thoroughly before use to prevent any potential damage to the toilet's finish
[5:3].
Additional Tips
Other methods include using denture cleaner tablets for limescale removal [2:1], or applying citric acid for similar effects
[2:7]. For maintenance, regular cleaning with basic bleach sprays and routine brushing can help prevent future buildup
[4:2]. Additionally, some users suggest letting cleaning solutions sit for extended periods, such as half a day or overnight, to maximize their effectiveness
[5:6].
The hidden, extra toilet in the basement is absolutely horrid. The water sits in there clean, but the bowl itself is stained beyond belief and scrubbing with the toilet wand has no effect at all. Letting 409 sit for a couple minutes and then using the wand has no effect. What are the strongest, proven toilet cleaners that come to mind for you all?
Pumice stone will remove all the scale and crud and will not harm the finish.
Find one like this: Pumie Toilet Bowl Ring Remover #TBR-6 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BPRDCW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_cOvVDbZ7SXJF5
I have been using pumice stone and it will work for some of it but not all the way if you have really hard water like we do.
Okay, you didn’t mention “hard” water in your OP. You can drain the bowl, apply paper towels to the problem areas and soak the paper towels in either distilled white vinegar or a product called CLR. Then scrubbing with the pumice stone will work. This may take 3 applications to get back to porcelain. The paper towels will hold the product on the area until the deposit is dissolved. Do not flush the paper towels or it will damage your sewer lines or septic system. Use rubber gloves and a well ventilated area for both remedies.
The Pumie- OMG. I thought we had hard water in NY... and then we moved to coastal Georgia. I was appalled and embarrassed by the rings in our toilets because none of my usual tricks worked to get them clean. But then I was helping an elderly neighbor move and she was getting rid of stuff she didn't want to pack, including a new Pumie...
Me: What's this?
Her: That's a Pumie. You use it on those awful rings in your toilet bowl.
Me: Wut? You have rings in your toilet?? I've been sooo embarrassed...
Her: (gives me a compassionate pat on the shoulder) Honey, everybody has rings in their toilets because the water is so dang hard! My stars- you take that Pumie home with you and give it a try. You'll love it!
And she was right- probably the best tip anyone has ever given me!
An HCL based toilet bowl cleaner, like Lysol's Lime and Rust Remover Toilet Bowl Cleaner, or Home Depot's Zep Acidic Toilet Bowl Cleaner. Some other grocery hardware stores carry ones with hydrochloric acid based toilet bowl cleaners as well. I found they worked better than CLR, and would take of scale without soaking that regular cleaners wouldn't even touch.
We have extremely hard water and the calcium stains were terrible in our toilets. A friend recommended The Works toilet bowl cleaner. It is HCl based and works wonders on the calcium. Just don't let it touch a fiberglass tub.
Vinegar then some baking soda for that foaming action. Scrub
This. Vinegar will clean most things. Empty the toilet, let the vinegar soak for 12-24 hours and then scrub.
And it's dirt cheap. I pay $2.50 for a gallon of vinegar and $10.00 for a quart of CLR. The vinegar works just as well as CLR.
Pumice stones work the best. Search for a Pumie Scouring Stick like the other guy said.
As for chemicals I recommend Brillo Snobol. Let it stay in there for like 30 min and then scrub. Repeat if necessary.
Barkeepers Friend tends to be invaluable when everything else fails.
The drywall screen sheet really works and i find its better than pumice usually or at least longer lasting.
Hello cleaning wizards. I’m desperate for suggestions because I’m about to go buy a new toilet. I recently bought a house and the toilets weren’t in the best shape but I thought all they needed was a good scrub because the house sat empty for a couple months. I cannot get these spots off the bottom of the bowl. I’ve tried two different toilet bowl cleaners, a pumice stone, and a Brillo pad. Any suggestions before I go buy a new toilet?? TIA!
If it were me, because I'm nuts, I'd replace the toilet no matter what because other people used it. But that's me because I'm cuckoo.
Abrasives like a pumice stone will leave scratches that will then stain easier.
The cleaning professional in me would first try bleach because that's what I have a lot of on hand.
If that didn't work I'd try hydrochloric/muriatic acid in an empty bowl.
BUT, and this is a big but, DO NOT use bleach and acid together, make sure you completely rinse any bleach you may have tried before the acid.
Also, open a window when using acid and do not use a brush or anything that could splash the acid on you. It won't kill you but it will tingle.
And wear safety glasses.
Try CLR. Then go back over with a pumice stone if this is still there.
This saved mine. I tried pumice and everything but couldn't touch the discoloration. Poured in some CLR and forgot about it about for a while and it was gone.
Pop a couple of denture cleaner tablets in the bowl and let sit for 10 minutes then clean. It works, it got rid of the limescale on the bottom of my toilet bowl
If you can find the whitening kind, even better. Use a BUNCH and add hot water to the bowl.
Thanks for the suggestion! Not one I thought of
Citric acid works well for limescale
Totally agree and its non-toxic and odorless. I use it regularly on my glassware for mineral buildup. Also works great for dishwashers.
Gotta get dirty to clean.
It's just an indicator to me if it's just something that is in an odd area which isn't being cleaned by the implements above, or if it's not something that's gonna ever come off.
Does it come off if you scrape it with your fingernail?
Eeeyew...
I scrubbed and cleaned the toilet right before i took these pics, so this is it at its cleanest. It seems like the yellow/rust staining—I’m color blind so maybe it’s not that color; I’m just saying what i see lol—has only progressed even though I keep up on cleaning and diligently clean at least 2 times a week.
I’ve tried a lot of cleaning products. I used the basics (Clorox clinging bleach gel and a brush), sprays (pink stuff, Scrubbing Bubbles, bleach/water, vinegar/water (not with the bleach, obviously)), powders (Comet, baking soda), and did a bleach soak once where I filled up the bowl with water and poured some bleach in at let it sit for like 2 hours. Nothing has worked. All these different recommendations I’ve pulled from the internet someplace or another… but I’m totally stumped.
This is kinda my last hope before i just accept it. It’s just kinda embarrassing, to be honest. When I have people over, i always kinda wonder if they’re judging me or think I don’t clean my toilet. I know it’s probably a stupid thing to be embarrassed about or even think about… but hey, i am only a dude with a toilet.
Much thanks for any tips or tricks.
I had really bad hard water stains in my toilet..and I mean horrible. Use ZEP Acidic Toilet Bowl Cleaner
CLR toilet cleaner works well on this. After applying in the bowl and under the lip, let it sit for an hour or so then use a toilet brush. You may have to do this a few days in a row if it’s heavily calcified.
You can dip a sand paper into a mixture of powdered detergent and some liquid bleach and start sanding the area that you want to clean. Watch this
I suggest Cs Cleaner, watch this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2MC2ENo8uzI
Use white vinegar or a commercial lime remover to tackle hard water stains. Let it sit, scrub with a toilet brush, and repeat if necessary for a sparkling clean toilet bowl
I have had poor to non existent cleaning skills for years. Trying to turn this around but I cannot get these stains clean. I am afraid to have people over as it is so embarrassing. Any tips would be great.
CLR. Let it sit 30-1 hour, should get it all out. If some remaining no use a water soaked pumice stone. Do not use a metal device like a screwdriver or knife, they will scratch it
2 pumice stones did it. Thank you so much!
Awesome!! I would buy and keep a bathroom bleach spray, get a routine of spraying it once a week. Basic toilet brush it, so it doesn’t get so bad!! Thanks for update!!
Thanks!
Its mineral build up so CLR, or Vinegar and it has to soak so you have raise the water level (block up the drain) or just keep toilet paper wet on the stains
I second vinegar, soak some paper towels in vinegar, and lay them on the stains overnight and they should wipe right off
Pumic stone! Will work best! Wet it thoroughly, and lightly start working it.. it won't scratch or damage your porcelain toilet
100% pumice stone for the win!
Can pumice be used on an old porcelain tub?
Yep, pumice stone will take this off like buttah....
Did you try Lysol toilet bowel cleaner with bleach. That stuff is very powerful
I second this—I’ve been cleaning for 13 years and it’s an absolute game changer for tough stains!
Let it sit for a few hours as well. My method is: apply and scrub, let sit for half the day, re-scrub and then flush. It has taken everything away I’ve had to deal with!
CLR calcium lime rust. Let sit overnight and scrub with brush. To maintain after use comet cleanser and brush 2-3 times a week. This will work
This is what I use. My water has a lot of iron, so it turns everything rusty. This is the best cleaner I've found. It works on all hard water stains.
My water has a lot of iron and it looks like somebody forgot to flush
Borax. It is in the laundry aisle. Put it in the toilet and let it sit for a bit. Then scrub with a sponge.You may have to do it twice. It is powder and you don’t need to use much.
I've tried scrubbing it with thick bleach, letting bleach sit in it for hours, pouring coke in there and letting that sit and THEN scrubbing, I've tried baking powder in boiling water, letting it sit then scrubbing, I've tried "organic" type toilet cleaners. If anything it's gotten worse. How the fuck do I clean it?? It's embarrassing and annoying. I don't even know what it is, as it was like this when we moved in (in future I'm going to check the toilet of any house I'm thinking of moving into)
Pumice stone! SOS pads
Pool acid. It will sort it out but may affect your seals on pipes.
Had this problem - I let white vinegar sit in overnight after emptying the toilet bowl of water. After leaving it, it still required a good scrub but cane off rather easily and flaked off as I scrubbed. Used toothbrush, metal scouring pad and Stanley knife to push off areas that persisted from the edge after the initial bits had flaked off
I clean bars in an area that has VERY hard water. My favorite is pumice scouring stone from the hardware store. If you’re lucky you can get the kind on a stick lol. I have to wear gloves and stick my hand in the toilet.
Yes! I used a pumice stone to get it as clean as it is now but I had trouble getting it in the corners of the hole (I feel like neither of those words is correct but basically where it’s still dirty). I’m wondering if I could use a dremel or a small grinder of some sort…
It’s called the Hard Water Wand
There’s one on Amazon that’s got a handle and an angled tip, maybe that could work? That is an awkward angle.
Citric Acid. Powdered Citric Acid. Found at the supermarket. Sprinkle 1/4 teaspoon into water. Let sit overnight. No scrubbing. Repeat. 3 days shiny porcelain.
Citric acid is the best, but 1/4 teaspoon sounds like way too little for this! I would use about a tablespoon in very hot water, let sti, and give it a scrub with the toilet brush at the end to remove as much as possible. If you still see residues, repeat.
Whatever product you use, toilet bowl gel, Barkeepers, etc., I’d let it sit truly for a day. Let time + product do most the work!
Denture tablets are fab for this. I put them in last thing before bed and then flush in the morning. If might take a while, but they work.
First try using CLR (calcium, lime and rust remover).... you may have to buy a pumice stone for cleaning toilets - they're available at hardware stores and Amazon.
I’m going to try the CLR definitely. Pumice stone helped get it the way it is but it’s hard to get one into the corners where the stuff still is. Toilet was WAY worse before.
The Works USED to do it. Took off years of scale with zero scrubbing. But theychanged the formula, and it seems to no longer work so idk!
Lol, passive aggressive trolls and gatekeepers who have no reasonable argument as why not to try it?
Those folks aside, I hope it cleans up well for you.
I live alone- never have guests over. My toilet bowl isn’t that dirty- the primary issue is the very difficult-to-remove hard water ring.
If I’m not in a rush to clean it and have a busy schedule, is there an easy “solution” (no pun intended) that I can just let sit that will eventually get rid of the ring over time, without having to scrub laboriously?
(I used to try using various brands of toilet tablets before the ring ever formed but none of them helped, even though they all said they work for hard water…)
You will need to do a strong acid soak overnight to remove the hard water ring. As for cleaning toilet I'd scrub it once a week. My favorite easy solution has been the Clorox magic wand.
I’d suggest scrubbing it with a wet pumice stone because it’s not gonna just go away, but once you do get the ring out you can use something like Zep acidic bowl cleaner to maintain.
Gentle scrub with a pumice stone should do the trick. Before I had a water softener I always had to do this about once a month.
The ring has been there a while now though (and gradually worse)- do you imagine it’ll still just take nothing more than a “gentle scrub”.
If it’s that fast and easy, I’ll do it- if it’s going to take extensive scrubbing I’d like an easier solution (even if it may take weeks of some kind of solution for the ring to gradually go away).
Totally understand your concerns! I was dealing with previous house owners also not cleaning properly so it was quite a build up of minerals, which took a bit to get all off however once that initial scrub is done, it’s way easier to maintain with the pumice stone. I’d wet the stone and then scrub, repeat as necessary.
No. However, if you shut off the valve and then flush it and your toilet level doesn't come all the way up to the ring when you do that you might have some luck with something like CLR, but it's not going to do any good if it's diluted by the water in the bowl.
If you shut off the supply, you can sometimes get enough velocity with a plunger yo significantly empty the bowl. Depends on the p-trap.
You could also bail the water out. If you're especially squeamish you could put a bleach solution in there for a little bit so that when you do have to bail the next flush in order to get a product to work on the dry bowl, it would be sanitary.
I know this post is old but if you're still struggling to find something, Bar Keepers Friend Soft Cleanser worked very well for mine with minimal labor involved. Also, do you happen to know if your service line is galvanized steel? I have hard water as well but when my line ruptured and I replaced with PEX the water line marks completely stopped forming (even though I still have hard water). I know that's not a simple/cheap solution (or something to have done just for a clean toilet bowl!), I just wanted to throw that out there. I also used the BKF powder in the beginning as it's a bit more abrasive, so it got the bowl completely clean the first time (after I bought the house), but it was more cumbersome to apply, as I had to shut off the valve to the toilet and flush most of the water out to expose the bowl before sprinkling it on. Still, it did the job tremendously, and then I just used the soft cleanser periodically to keep the water line from reappearing.
I would fill the bowl with vinegar and let it sit overnight. Alternatively you can try CLR. Most people don’t let things sit long enough to let the product work for you. That’s probably part of the issue.
CLR would definitely get rid of the stains.
I say don’t use pumice! It scrapes off the coating and allows more staining.
Yeah pumice is a horrid idea for ceramic or metal. Once you break through the glaze, you're introducing moisture and caustic cleaners into the ceramic base layers. Great way to have your toilet split apart.
I think the idea with pumice is that it’s softer than ceramic so wont scratch, no matter how hard you scrub? I’ve never used it personally but it’s popularly mentioned in this sub
What kind of pumice are you using that is harder than enamel? I have used pumice for years on porcelain and enamel and it does not damage the finish. It will damage metals.
A new toilet would probably be cheaper at this point
Step #1: Find a toilet distributor. Step#2: Find a landfill that accepts, umm, used toilets.
Step #0: Use NSFW tag for people who are eating
For fuck sake
1 gallon of 93 octane and pack of matches will do it
Be sure to leave the fan on and maybe open a window for ventilation.
I love the blue water in the toilet bowl. I just feel like it makes the toilet look cleaner
I think I may try it. Wanted to make sure it was worth it
As a plumber, I will tell you that this will eat the rubber gaskets and other parts In your toilet tank. Also as I plumber I would recommend you use them because it keeps us working ha
I don’t know if they’re compatible with septic in case that applies to you
So that’s how people have blue toilet water?!
This bypasses the tank and goes straight into the bowl, it won't destroy your flapper and cause leaks. It is not bleach, even though it says it is...it uses bromine in the cartridge.
Thank you for your service
That’s so cool thank you, I’ll check it out
I personally like those gel stick-ons that attach to the inside of the bowl. Doesn't make the water blue and adds a bit of scent. Also adds a bit of suds to the flush so it functions a bit better.
I don't love fake scents at all, but I had a low flow toilet that was getting smelly like 2-3 days after cleaning -- so I just found the least flowery aroma I could. Right now I'm using one labeled "marine".
Not a replacement for actually cleaning the bowl on a regular basis (once a week, minimum.. or every other week if you have a smaller household), but fine to use to keep the bowl looking better in between).
NOTE: The following statement does not reflect my personal thoughts. It is a statement I heard from someone else.
I don't remember how it came up, but someone I knew once commented that he hates it when he goes to someone else's home and sees that blue color that some toilet tabs makes the water because it leads him to believe that the person doesn't clean their toilet at all and just relies on those tabs.
IMO, I thought that was really judgemental, but it was interesting to hear how some people might react or think if they saw that artifical color from toilet tabs in other people's homes.
That person has issues that clear toilet water are not going to fix.
Just a word of caution, some of those can cause issues with basically drying out the flapper and causing it to have to be replaced more often. If you don’t care about having to do that, then go for it.
best cleaning solutions for toilet bowls
Key Considerations for Toilet Bowl Cleaning Solutions
Effectiveness: Look for products that effectively remove stains, mineral deposits, and bacteria. Acidic cleaners (like those containing hydrochloric acid) are often effective against tough stains.
Safety: Choose non-toxic and environmentally friendly options if you have pets or children. Products with natural ingredients can be safer alternatives.
Ease of Use: Consider whether the cleaner is easy to apply and whether it requires scrubbing or can simply be left to sit.
Odor Control: Some cleaners also help eliminate odors, which can be a bonus. Look for products with pleasant scents or those that neutralize odors.
Formulation: Liquid gels, tablets, and powders all have different application methods. Gels often cling to the bowl for better cleaning, while tablets can be convenient for regular maintenance.
Recommendations:
Clorox Toilet Bowl Cleaner with Bleach: This is a powerful option that effectively disinfects and removes tough stains. The bleach helps to sanitize and whiten.
Seventh Generation Toilet Bowl Cleaner: A great eco-friendly choice, this plant-based cleaner is effective against stains and safe for the environment.
Lysol Power Toilet Bowl Cleaner: Known for its thick formula that clings to the bowl, it effectively removes stains and disinfects surfaces.
Kaboom BowlBlaster: This foaming cleaner is great for tough stains and has a convenient applicator that makes cleaning easy.
Tip: For regular maintenance, consider using toilet bowl tablets that can help keep your toilet clean with minimal effort.
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