I want a Porsche Taycan, I’m also really excited about the EV Dodge Charger. I’m hoping the Taycan keeps depreciating in the used market so I can get one on the cheap.

EV sports cars are cool.

It’s hard to even consider an ICE sports car, especially when any soccer mom can beat you off the line with her Model Y

Oof, I felt that right in the "Previously owned an RX7 turbo and hated the lack of torque, finicky fussy engine, and filthy fuel consumption" part of my soul.

I'll never own another ICE powered car.

I've sold the last rotary ICE I'll ever own almost 20 years ago. Hot garbage.

You must not live in a location that experiences winter. EV's suck in the cold, especially as they age. The range takes a huge hit alone, not to mention having to run the heat the entire time. We're talking a car going from 300 miles on a charge to under 100 miles, and it takes longer to charge.

Hybrids that let you go 50 miles are the best cars. You spend nothing on gas 95% of the time, and when you do, it's long trips where you don't have to worry about range anxiety or waiting 30+ minutes at a rest stop to charge.

I'm with you on that. I would like to see how the new Ionic 5 does though. They use software to mimic gears, torque curves, etc. I heard a review that says it felt like a real ICE car.

If I were you, which I was 8 years ago, go for the C5 Corvette. They're a steal for the price and pretty reliable. I've only had it in the shop twice in all this time, and everyone is familiar with them.

g8 GT is garbage. LS2 sucks compared to other LS cars. Impossible to find body parts / panels. Automatic, slow, heavy.

You want something fast? reliable? fun to drive? cheap to maintain?

5th gen camaro ss manual ~ ls3 (gods motor) tr6060 trans h/c package you will make 500whp

c5 vette MANUAL ONLY ~ LS1, Ok LS, h/c expect low - mid 400s whp.. lightweight, tons of parts available

i’d avoid anything euro if you’re on a budget shit will break and could cause you to be wasting all your cheques and go poor

but, if you really want something euro look at

b8/b8.5 s4/s5s

mk7/7.5 gti / R

330ci e46 manual only ~ make sure the entire cooling system has been replaced lol

g35/g37 manual

i don’t like miatas. they aren’t cheap anymore. yes they’re cheap to own. but they make no power and to make power it isn’t cheap.

buy something with an LS.

2v 3v mustang GTs suck they’re slow shitty manual trans etc

stinger is literal garage don’t buy anything Korean

Gto 05 or 06

4th gen f body. Just be careful.

Any mustang, Chevrolet Camaro, Subaru WRX (All of em around 2015-2017)

You cannot beat the lease deals on a Tesla Model 3. If you are interested in EVs that would be my only recommendation and I think the current updated Model 3 is the best car they currently make. The updated Y is coming soon which would give you more space.

Model S.

BMW M240i/340i/440i, or Z4 M40i. Reliable, great build quality, addictive powertrain, great resale. Best cars BMW has put out in years.

It's a bit over budget but z4 m40i would be easy to lease

Same boat. But I’m trying to be a responsible adult and buy something that is good for daily duties and any other things (so a SUV/wagon). I want to buy new - and while being a BMW guy - and wanting a New X3 or X5 I just rather get something that will be less problematic and cheaper to maintain. Fuel costs are a thing for me. As long as the car gets 25 mpg combined at minimum I’m ok. Compared to all my 3 vehicles getting 15-17 mpg lol. Each tank is 23-24 gallons and it’s like 90+ bucks to fill each car up.

I got 3 old bmws, so if 2 of them go, one will be replaced with a daily driver (for a peace of mind) and the other will be the next “fun non-classic, small project car”. My 3rd BMW - which is 34 years old this year, will remain the “classic weekend cruiser”

Wenn es um beschleunigung udn Handling geht, kommst du kaum um Porsche taycan, Model 3 performance in der aktuellen baureihe oder i4M herum. Der Ionoq 5N osist von den Werten her brachial aber mir persönlich für sportlich zu hoch und kastig.
Und bevor das thema Tesla bremsen kommt. Für die Differnz zwischen M3P zu I4 oder Taycan kann man mehr als eine optimierte Sportbremsanlage verbauen lassen. ;)

i4 m50, gebrauchter Taycan/Audi GT. Sonst kommt nichts ans Model 3 P dran

Ganz klar gebrauchter Taycan. Kriegst du relativ günstig und als Combi auch relativ praktisch.

i4 ?

I4 / i5 M60

Rolls-Royce Spectre

I hope you have $400K to spend

I would argue a Rivian R1S is up there

Volvos are always great on quality. Not flashy but well put together. EX90 is coming out in the next year. XC40 exists already but it's quite a bit smaller. EX30 also coming in the next year (we learn more about it next week) but even smaller still. If plug-in hybrids are your thing you can't go wrong with XC90 or V90.

Nissan Ariya gets good reviews on the interior. Charging is a bit piddly.

Taycan

I have a ‘24 Cooper SE, and it’s my year round daily driver. I love it. It’s even good in the snow.

I wish we could buy the latest Mini Cooper EV (J01) in North America. That longer range would be nice to have to make road trips a lot easier, but it’s manufactured in China so it’s a no go.

I love my mini se. Easily the best car I have ever owned. I do recommend it as a second car as the range is a bit limited. Definitely splurge for a level 2 charger at home. Nothing like having a full charge every time you go out

I love my ‘21 MINI Cooper SE. You get the great handling and cool interior of the regular F56 MINI without the maintenance issues, but with jet-like acceleration. Since it’s built by BMW, you get the BMW electronics ecosystem, which as a former BMW owner, is familiar and useful. I mention this because a lot of EVs have sterile interiors without enough button and switches, making them difficult and risky to use on the road (unless you enjoy talking to your car).

The downside is that the range is limited. The EPA estimates 100 miles, but most SE owners are seeing 130-145. This is about 40% of a typical EV range. If you’re charging at home, it’s not often an issue. For example, my daily commute is 80 miles in heavy traffic and I return to my garage with about 50% battery capacity left. A trip of 130 miles is almost three hours. So, making a 20 minute stop might not be an issue.

We are told that we wills soon have access to the Tesla supercharger network. When that happens, road trips will become easier for me because the Tesla supercharger network is more convenient to main roads and it’s better maintained.

I’ve owned a Tesla Model S, Mustang Mach-E, both purchased new, then bought a slightly used ‘22 SE and love it the best of all. I didn’t need the longer range of the other two cars, and prefer the size, controls, and interior of the ‘22 SE, which at that time had a good balance of physical buttons/switches vs electronic menus.

Unless you do frequent longer road trips, regularly need to ferry about more than 2 people, or transport large objects, it's the perfect vehicle. Quick, quiet, fun, reliable, cheap to own and operate (mine costs me about $0.11/mile - $0.03/mile for electricity and $0.08/mile for tires).

ETA: Referring to the original F56-based SE.

When I bought my Ioniq 5 two years ago there weren't as many options on the market and the Model Y was $66k with no tax credit. The Ioniq 5 has had a number of issues including the ICCU, 12V battery, throttling AC charging speed, poor brake light logic, awful cold weather charging speed, poor preconditioning implementation, lack of OTA updates and more. Nowadays there's more new options, alot of great used EV deals like $30k E-Trons and the Model Y qualifies for the tax credit. If I was shopping for an EV today...I'd still go with the Ioniq 5 ten times out of ten.

They nominate the Ioniq 5 and 6 but not the Model Y and 3.

They nominate the F150 and Hummer but not the Rivian or Cybertruck.

Seems legit.

Maybe 2024 Tesla Model 3 Standard Range

|| || |Range: 272 miles but the starting Price: $41,630|

|| || |2024 Tesla Model 3 Standard Range|

So many cars not considered lol. This is just an ad.

Not enough people have tried out the Lyriq. Phenomenal vehicle!

Meh - at this point the only ones to take seriously are Tesla, VW and Volvo (for the US market). The rest are trying to hold back as much as possible. Rivian is an enigma, they're playing it safe, garnering $ and endorsements - still not producing anything yet.

Shitty clickbait blog. Fails to list several upcoming EVs.

“Your blog is weak and you should be ashamed.”

Why do they list a Model 3 PERFORMANCE without even listing the more efficient and by far more popular Model 3 Rear-wheel drive or Dual Motor? And why isn’t the world’s most-popular BEV listed, the Model Y?

I wish there was a text version of this chart instead of a big image so we can sort by brand or otherwise filter out our favorite EVs.

Did I miss something? Why is there no teslas on the list?

Yeah there it is. I was just expecting more models than just one. There were multiples of the other brands. The rwd model 3 is in the 4.1 range. I just expected to see it on the list.

The Lucid Air is significantly more aerodynamic than an EV6. Sedans have a smaller frontal area which combined with a lower coefficient of drag makes for way less loss to drag. It's no coincidence that almost every vehicle with a very small delta on this list is a sedan.

Cd alone is not the whole number for aerodynamic efficiency. People commonly confuse this. It's Cd multiplied with frontal area. It's completely believable that a Lucid Air's lower Cd combined with its lower frontal area results in that delta.

A Lucid Air Pure has only a 15% larger battery than an EV6 but gets 31% more range. That's all aerodynamic efficiency.

I wish!!! I’m RWD tho, and drive 50/50 city/hwy. if I was 100% hwy it would be mid 3s easy. RWD is a touring beast.