We ordered and purchased a new 2022 Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring. We now have about 27K miles after two years of ownership. We love this car. No problems. The only issue we had was the backup camera and that was handled by a recall with a simple replacement of the camera. They also did another recall, something about emissions control, but that was done by a simple reprogramming of the engine computer and they came to the house and did that right in our garage.

We've done several long road trips, it has performed great. We love how quiet it is, how smooth the ride and such a pleasure to drive. Ours has all the features of the Grand Touring, plus the 24-way seats, Revel audio system, basically everything except the towing and 20" wheels. Sticker was about $63K.

I looked at both the Corsair and Nautilus when I got my MKZ- I was really wanting a Continental, but couldn’t find one with the options package I wanted and I was on a timeline. Both of them are nice, I always liked the lines of the Corsair more- it’s one of the only SUVs I’ve ever liked the looks of.

One thing- as you look for your car- whether it’s a Corsair or Nautilus- get the upgraded seats with the active motion massage. I literally cannot express how much that improves long road trips. I can drive for hours and get out and not be sore- I’ve got older family members with mobility issues and it keeps them from getting stiff and needing help after a longish drive.

I don't have experience with the Corsair specifically, but I've been very happy with my 2019 Lincoln Continental. A lot of the base technology is similar between models, so I would encourage you to go with the Corsair based on that.

That said, I have been very underwhelmed with Lincoln's dealership network in recent years. I've spent close to a year trying to get a minor issue with my APIM module (part of the infotainment system) diagnosed and repaired, or ideally just replaced, to no avail. Appointments are months out, then are cancelled last minute shortly before I'm due to go in. And this has happened with multiple Lincoln dealerships. The service aspect used to be a lot better.

I still like their cars, but if you have an independent mechanic you trust, I'd go with that over the dealerships for service and repairs.

I have the 2017 Lincoln Continental with the 3 L twin turbo V6 I strongly encourage you to get that and yes the seats that Massage are fantastic. The only common I have regarding the SUVs my local Lincoln dealer said he wouldn’t give an aviator to his worst enemy.

Both Corsair and Nautilus are good choices. I would go with a 2022 out of those years. Test drive both. I’ve got the Corsair, and while I LOVE it, I wish I would’ve gotten the Nautilus as I have a baby and the extra room would’ve been nice. But overall, the Corsair is a good car and is speedy. No issues outside of seat memory glitches, but that was fixed by a dealership at no cost. Get the extended warranty.

if you already have an explorer and enjoy the size of that vehicle, buy the aviator. it’s the lincoln equivalent + comes with the 3.0 twin turbo. ride quality isn’t even a comparison with the explorer

Loving mine 2024 Nautilus. Had since March 2024.

Get an Aviator if the third row is important to you. Otherwise, the Nautilus has more second row rear leg room than the Aviator, and is thus arguably more comfortable for a family of 4.

Aviator

Lincoln has very nice vehicles. Especially in recent years. The nautilus especially to me is incredible.

I remember during my college years driving a 2005 Lincoln LS V8. I miss that car. Very fun to drive, but it became a money pit and I couldn’t afford to repair everything it needed. When I got rid of it, the A/C compressor and power steering went out.

Today I have a 2018 Navigator L Black Label and a 2023 Aviator Reserve. The Aviator is a Ford Explorer ST with a tuxedo. It’s very fun to drive.

I’ve driven Escalade ESV. The Navigator L is surprisingly fast for its size. Definitely faster than a regular Escalade. I’ve never driven a V-Series Escalade though, but they do sound nice.

In terms of vehicle comfort and service after the sale, Lincoln easily beats Cadillac in my opinion.

Commenting on own opinion to leave opinions out of the post itself, I think Lincoln is very great in the luxury segment, personally I think it exceeds Cadillac, but being a 19 year old, I just have that part of me that loves to take my MKS to the middle of nowhere for some spirited driving.

So if someone forced me to get only a brand new car and I had no budget, I’d sadly pick the Escalade V simply because it’s superior in the fun aspect while still having tons of comfort.

But I wouldn’t trade my MKS for anything else, if it got totaled today I’d just buy another MKS, possibly an ecoboost, because thats my favorite model where Lincoln was able to incorporate fun and luxury together

In the 80s Lincoln/Cadillacs were still seen as aspirational cars, what you would buy after clocking in your 40 years at the factory as a retirement.

Also, American cars were a point of pride for the country, and recognized as a major factor in the economy. People buying imports were seen as "traitors", "Buy American" was a popular thing to see even on bumper stickers. If you haven't seen "Roger & Me" it's a good time capsule.

There are just better options now. Luxury imports really weren’t a thing back then, whereas Merc, Audi, BMW, etc. Have a better lineup in the US than they used to. And those are better than a Lincoln, Cadillac, Buick. And those better options weren’t in America when Lincoln and Cadillac were still the biggest lux brands in the country.

Lincoln suffered a bit in the same way that Cadillac did in the '80s: their customer base was getting older, since they didn't have the cars young luxury buyers wanted. But unlike Cadillac, Lincoln didn't suffer from mechanical issues with their flagship sedans, nor from identity issues with their other models.

Lincoln and Cadillac had some rep for being mafia cars as well as old people cars. People with money who were younger felt like they were more sophisticated for having something European in a luxury car at some point. Also classic American luxury like Lincoln rode soft like a magic carpet or a living room on wheels. The newer rivals tightened up the suspension and gave them some more nimble performance.

There’s nothing like that nice luxury float on a long highway trip though.

I think the newer ones have some of the most luxurious and comfortable seats I've ever sat in. Admitting this will probably get my lynched but I'm really impressed with their interiors on their top trims. Too many luxury brands have moved towards harder and stiffer less "cushy" interiors that would be more appropriate on their sporty trims. I have no idea on how well they hold up long-term but initial impressions are outstanding.

My grandparents were Cadillac people although I do remember one Lincoln they had back in the early 80's and I remember my Nan really liked it but unfortunately she went deer hunting one night and that was the end of that.

I can’t speak to engine/transmissions of those years as my Navigator L is a 2012. But the common issue they have is those power running boards. Keep the hinges clean and properly lubricated and they will work fine. And for what it’s worth I love my ‘12, I prefer the V8 over the V6 in the newer ones personally but I haven’t really heard any complaints from friends of mine with the newer models.

Watch out for the 2020. If you find a clean one make sure the Transmission has had work done. I had to have my serviced for it after it dropped to what felt like neutral for a brief moment while towing a 6500lb trailer up a hill at 65 mph. I'm not sure if 18 and 19 have the issue. Traded mine in for a 24 because they fixed the issue permanently in 23.

I got 2024 lincoln nav for 8 months, 10k miles and no issues

I just lemon'd my '24 reserve L. The lift gate would randomly open and close. They couldn't fix it after three trips and 30 days in the shop. It opened once while driving. Piece of crap car, I'll never buy ford/Lincoln again.

Looking good! These are awesome. Enjoy the smooth ride, giant cabin and sweet sound system.

I recently bought a navigator, I keep debating picking up an aviator also. I love that truck.

Favorite car I have ever owned. No problems since I bought last year and always best looking vehicle in the parking lot.

My wife got one a couple months ago and she loves it. The seats are incredible. We have the second row bucket/captain(whatever they call them) seats with a center console. The third row seats are flipped down and will probably never be used by us. It’s hard to get back there and not much room when you do.

Can’t speak on reliability as it’s new. We have had no issues so far.

The BlueCruise is nice. The massaging seats I use more than I thought I would. Wish they were a little stronger. The heated seats get insanely hot. Can fit 10 bags of mulch in the back. So far so good.

I have a 2023 and I'm at 35,000 miles, so far, no problems, other than the recalls, but they gave me a loaner. so I'm satisfied.

Love my 25!

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It's not a Cherokee, is Cherokee Swedish cousin

Volvo cherokee fucking beautiful.... doesn't even look like a wagon anymore.... that's a true suv now.

I got a 17 BL with the same setup and I love it. Seriously underrated cars.

Good for you. The 3.0 AWD Drivers Package is the only car I will trade my '18 SHO Performance Package for. A little bit smaller and lighter, more HO/TQ and a nicer interior!

Congratulations! I had hoped to replace my dearly departed 2011 Fusion with an MKZ…before Ford/Lincoln discontinued it. And there are VERY few non-German luxury sedans available now.

I got the exact same two years ago! It was a CPO and when delivered, I heard a tick coming from the engine.

A month later, I had a brand new crate engine installed under warranty, cost me a total of $100.

This was a good era for Lincoln. All interior materials for the most part are soft touch not hard touch. Now they’ve gone back to a lot of hard touch areas in the doors etc.