TL;DR
Chuck Roast and Fat Content
Chuck roast is frequently recommended as the best cut for burger patties due to its rich flavor and balanced fat content [1:4]. The fat in chuck helps bind the patty and provides juiciness, which is crucial for a good burger. Some users suggest mixing chuck with other cuts like brisket trimmings or shoulder to improve the texture and flavor
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Mixing Different Cuts
Combining different cuts of meat can create a more complex flavor profile. For instance, adding brisket or bacon to your grind can increase the fat content and add depth to the taste [1:3]. Bacon is often used not primarily for its flavor but to boost the fat content, which is essential for a juicy burger
[1:5]. Other cuts like short rib and outside round can also be included for variety
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Fat Ratio Considerations
There is debate over the ideal fat ratio for burger patties. While 80/20 (meat to fat) is commonly suggested, some argue that a higher fat content, such as 60/40, can result in better flavor and juiciness [3:1]. The key is ensuring the meat has enough fat to prevent the burger from falling apart and to maintain moisture during cooking
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Seasoning Tips
Seasoning plays a crucial role in enhancing the flavor of burger patties. Common seasonings include salt, pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, and Worcestershire sauce [2:2]
[2:5]. Montreal steak seasoning is a popular choice for its robust flavor
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[4:5]. Experimenting with different seasoning combinations can help you find the perfect balance for your taste preferences.
Grinding Your Own Meat
Grinding your own meat allows for control over the blend and freshness, which can significantly impact the quality of the burger [3:1]. It's recommended to consult with a butcher about the specific cuts available and their fat content to ensure you're getting the best mix for your patties
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I like to get a little creative with my burgers and grind my own meat for an extra special, tasty burger and wondering what others use for the cut of meat. I have tried chuck roasts which come out pretty well, but wondering if there’s anything better. I tried sirloin steaks before but the burger fell apart most likely due to the low fat content I’m assuming.
One thing for sure is I have found that by grinding my own meat that the burgers definitely have better quality taste to them.
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Update: my parents always buy half cows every year and gave me some random cuts of meat to try out. Curious what others think and how they’d blend this up. It was free meat so it’s worth a shot no matter what.
Should I try one of these on their own or perhaps blend some together?
Chuck roast with brisket trimmings.
Absolutely!
My butcher has recommended outside round as my base meat; I’ve added brisket and I’ve added bacon to my grinds at different times to enhance the flavour and fat content somewhat. All were a great choice
I’ve been reading up a lot on this and have seen many references to using bacon - sounds great, but how does it taste? Do you have a lot of bacon flavor?
It is more for the fat content really; I wouldn’t say you notice the bacon flavour much, but we use maybe 400g of bacon to 1400g of beef. If you used more, the flavour would be more present, I’m sure
I like chuck--it has a lot of flavor.
Brisket and shoulder.
My family member has been talking shit saying I don't cook a good burger lol
Most of the heavy lifting is done by the fat content of the hamburger - make sure you use NON lean ground beef, something like 80/20. That's most of it right there.
I make awesome burgers with 90/10. I add a good dose of Worcestershire sauce to bump up the moisture content. 4 minutes on one side, 3 on the other on my cast iron griddle, and they're cooked through and dripping with juice.
A little balsamic vinegar and olive oil mixed into the meat makes it taste pretty good. Maybe mix it up by making different seasonings for each patty so you can figure out what works best for you. Fresh ground pepper, regular iodized salt, onion powder and garlic powder are my usual seasonings.
Sorry major amateur here, 80/20 what? Fat ratio to something or is this two kinds of meat mixing together?
It’s not exactly a chef move, but I just use Montreal Steak seasoning. I hand pack quarter to third pounders, and I don’t overcook them.
McCormick Hamburger seasoning has been my go to but I may have to try the steak seasoning on my burgers. If I happen to be out of the burger seasoning I just use salt, pepper, garlic powder, and onion powder.
I make 2 burgers and use hamburger seasoning on one and steak on the other. They're both so delicious!
This is my go to as well. Heck, I even sprinkle some on frozen store burgers as they cook.
I second Montreal steak spice. Use in moderation, but darn it's good!
Basic burger? Salt. Pepper. And your thumb. Seriously. Put a dimple in the middle of the patty so that as it draws in it retains its shape.
Those, and a good sear.
Chopped fresh thyme mixed with the mince.
A dash or two of Worcester Sauce.
Don't overcook!
I'm going to the butcher right now just to try this.
making burgers for the first time and got some basic 20% mince for the patties. does this make a noticeable difference from using your own freshly ground beef?
I just bought a whole prime rib from my butcher and had him cut it into tomahawk steaks. Everything that was leftover he ground into burger. Idk the ratio of meat/fat but damn those were some good burgers.
Either 80/20 ground beef or ground lamb
80/20 is my usual. Ive never ground my own meat but it seems like it would b hard to get an accurate percentage split.
The problem with general ground beef is you never know what your getting. Sometimes it works out, sometimes not so much. Ask your butcher what they put into the ground beef that day. I generally like to find cheap meat that gives off the best flavour. Rib chuck, shank, sirloin, if your patient some oxtail. Just good fatty meat.
I don't know what youtube asshole has everyone convinced of this 80/20 bullshit but more fat is always better. A 60/40 or 40/60 mix is great with a more coarse grind.
Salt and pepper is all a burger needs.
I just bought some mince from my supermarket, pretty sure they just use offcuts from the butchering process. how much more expensive is it typically to get around 500g of meat if you ask a butcher to mince specific cuts?
If they're good, they should charge you the cut of the meat. .5kg at $7.99 should be $7.99 at .496kg(a little loss in the bigger grinders). Basically the grinding is free, I'm not sure if they can do multiple cuts at a time, again comes down to a good butcher. But there would be no problem getting each cut separately grinded and then mixing them all at home.
shortrib
Looking to host a little get together, what’s the best seasonings you can recommend to add a little flair to my burgers?
Montreal steak seasoning
Been putting this on my burgers for years and love it.
People are getting outta hand with this seasoning
Yes. I mix the Montreal up in the meat before I patty it, then a moderate salt and pepper sprinkle shortly before the cook. Very happy with the flavor.
Lawry's seasoned salt, garlic and black pepper.
Personally I like using a bunch of smoked paprika, garlic and onion powders, touch of cayenne, salt and pepper.
I like to use powered ranch dressing
Finally have my process down pretty well.
Weigh out meat and put in my seasonings and some Lea and Perrins worst at a 1 lb to 10-12g and 10.5 ml respectively ratio.
Weigh the total and divide by number of patties (I prefer 130g to 140g)
Cut a bunch of squares of parchment paper and put each ball on its own square.
Smash them down into a patty shape with the bottom of a plate
And then I grilled them on a gas grill with SS grates that’s taken a little getting used to from the Cast iron grates. Add cheese if needed at the end. I butter the buns and then toast on the top rack. Inside you add your own toppings.
Nice looking grill marks!
Thanks. I use the cast iron weights from lodge!
Whoa— and as if those weren’t good enough, shredded lettuce ftw! 😃👍
Shreddy letty can take any sandwich to the next level
Yea I put it in my pbj
That is a fact, indeed! 🫡🤝
Toasted bun seals the victory!
Looks good
OMG THAT LOOKS INCREDIBLE
I have a meat grinder and want to make my own burgers. What meat should I buy? Should anything else go in? I will most likely do smash burgers if that matters.
Most stores run chuck roasts in ads pretty cheap
Oh yum no way. How did you make?
Nothing to it. First saute sliced mushrooms in butter and avocado oil with s &p. Brown brioche buns in another pan with butter. Season beef with Montreal steak seasoning, s&p, garlic powder, and splash of Worcestershire. Mix and make into balls. Place in hot nonstick pan in avocado oil. Then smash with bottom of large mug. I also used Duke's aioli as a spread.
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Looks delicious!
I love those patties for smash burgers. Perfect size for 2 balls/patties and good flavor.
Hi everyone just writing this post for anyone who has struggled with getting a good tasting burger. Whether you are team Impossible, Beyond or Gardien try this if you want!
If you have them frozen already in paddy form: let them thaw and season with
Black Pepper, Ranch Seasoning (there is a v one made by Fody), Tony Chachere’s Creole Seasoning, Garlic Salt and a few dashes of worcestershire sauce and a secret ingredient: crushed potato chips ground up fine with a mortar and pestle. Make sure to mix up your meat with your hands and form the patty back flat for your liking and cook! (Sometimes I split one patty into 2 because I like a thinner patty.)
Tip: sometimes I freeze for next day or refrigerate the patties up to an hour to lock in that flavor! Also don’t go overboard with the Worcestershire sauce as it may cause the patty to fall apart when frying stove top
I have yet to try to cook with a grill…I’m just a girl lol
Have a good day and happy eating!
Don't be afraid of the grill and wood chips. My best meatless burger starts with impossible beef, about a 4oz portion smooshed to roughly quarter pounder size.
Sprinkle generous black pepper on one side. Flip it over and spread Better Than Bouillon beefless base on the other side.
Take it out to the grill (wood chips in the charcoal, relatively low heat, around 300F) and put the patty peppered side down.
Smoke it low & slow for around 15 minutes or so. Flip it, and cook for another 15 minutes, give or take.
Using this method gives me a meatless burger that not even meat eaters can detect is vegan. The slow cook and smoking really works wonders.
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Beyond Beef needs a bit more work, but my most recent foray was very tasty. I cooked in a pan, seasoned with generous black pepper, bit of garlic powder, bit of salt, onion flake, splash of A1 steak sauce.
Topped with grilled jalapenos and violife Mexican shreds, melted in the pan with steam. Toasted buns. Sauced with creamy bbq sauce.
It was actually really tasty. I was craving this beyond burger the other day.
Hmm I wonder if I can do this with an indoor grill since I’m stuck in an apartment! Def gotta restock that BTB, it’s so hard to come by in my area unless I’m at WH!
And your buns look great lol if only I could get my gf ones like that (not celiac but just cutting out as much “bad” stuff as I can)
The Beyond Beef method would work for Impossible too, but I'd add smoked paprika and char both sides to try and mimic a grilled burger.
I'm not sure what to do about gluten free buns, I've never had them, sorry!
beefless base on the other side
Flip it over and spread Better Than Bouillon beefless base on the other side.
Whoa, I've never thought about using this in any application that doesn't dilute it since it's so concentrated. You kinda blew my mind with this one!
Mhmm, Impossible meat has no flavor on its own imo, so the beefless base does a great job. I put a very thin layer on, it doesn't need much at all
Thanks for the tips. Gotta make sure that Worcestershire is vegan too.
If you don’t have a grill but want that smokey flavor then smoked paprika is a game changer.
Yep, I get the one from Sprouts, I’ve definitely made that mistake just picking one up on a whim in a hurry 🤦♀️
Um I’ve never had a bad vegan burger 💀
I feel like a, dummy for eating beyond burger and fake burgers without proper seasoning smh. Since I hasn't had meat for years I didn't know that I had to season meat lol
This was me, I figured they’d taste good without it at first. Because some plant based things are nice and flavorful! But it just kinda gave dog food. Now that I have found a way to eat it how I like, eating is much less a chore.
Now if only the chick-un substitutes were that easy 😮💨 so far I only like one specific brand and can’t do the seitan variety. Tried to replicate a CFA sando & It all taste like whole wheat bread 😬
Are you familiar with ‘Thee Burger Dude’ on YouTube / IG? .. he does some pretty great chikn things with the commercial products. His technique that was new to me was letting these chikn products thaw and seasoning and forming them into new unique food products
I want to say he does a chikn sando that involves smashing two thawed Gardein scallopini together?
I buy the Impossible packs and try not to buy the frozen unless I have to. It makes seasoning the burger so much better. I add black pepper, garlic, and A-1 sauce. I used to add bread crumbs, but I thought the burger got too dry. I hand mix the Impossible with the seasoning and A-1, form 6oz meatballs and then press them down to patties. Lastly after laying them in the pan I add salt over the burgers.
I agree with the masses, 80/20 chuck but if you want to mess around then you can grab different cuts from your mainstream chain (safeway is nearest for me so yea) and ask the butcher to grind it for you..
Beef with fat
I like 80/20 chuck
That's what I was going for.
80/20 for sure. If you really want the best though, you want a mix of different cuts that you ground yourself
Edit: https://www.seriouseats.com/the-burger-lab-best-burger-blend-profiles-of-eight-cuts-of-beef
In Kenji I trust
I trust Kenji too :)
I want to drink my own meat for some medium rare-medium burgers. I was thinking about using pure ribeyes but I'm not too sure. What is the best blend to use? I also have some trimmed brisket fat in the freezer.
I’m my opinion grinding a ribeye is just a waste of a ribeye.
Ground chuck, brisket or short rib will give you great flavor for the burger and a good fan contents, about 80/20.
This ! And definitely add some brisket fat. I've been adding a egg yolk to each burger lately, holds the meat together well.
I was going to say the same thing. For burgers or chili, I usually grind up at least 2 cuts of meat and combine. Short ribs with either chuck or brisket. Sometimes I use all 3.
Tri-tip is also a nice cheaper + good fat content + flavour cut for burgers.
Serious eats did a whole guide on making custom blends https://www.seriouseats.com/the-burger-lab-best-burger-blend-profiles-of-eight-cuts-of-beef
I grind brisket. First I trim all the fat off of the outside, plenty of fat left on the inside don't really know or care for that matter what the ratio is. Cut into chunks almost freeze run it through the medium size plate mix it all up real good almost freeze again and run it through one more time. Season liberally with kosher salt and fresh black pepper when making patties. Careful you don't get any on your forehead when your eating the finished medium burger, your tongue will beat your brains out trying to get it back.
I'm not a butcher, but I think the meat / fat ratio matters more than which cut you're using.
A pure ribeye burger to me seems to waste the ribeye becuase the flavor of a ribeye is just supreme (imo). Short rib, chuck and xxx with a 15 - 20% fat ratio always gets me high complements.
I do however season my meat thoroughly as I form the patties as well, as opposed to just seasoning the outside.
Agreed. I've also had good luck with leaner cuts and added fat, for example, frozen butter, tallow, bacon, etc to get the approximate ratio up to 20%. That said, I'm grinding the meat myself so it's easy to incorporate.
I also season as I grind so it's thoroughly mixed, although I think conventional wisdom is to only season when you're ready to cook, though can't recall the rationale.
>although I think conventional wisdom is to only season when you're ready to cook, though can't recall the rationale.
Think it's because it pulls moisture out of the meat if allowed to incorporate/stays on the meat too long, resulting in drier/tougher. Might also be to avoid overworking the meat trying to mix everything in for the same reason. Not 100% sure though.
This guy is correct.
I have worked in meat industry for a bit. Fat content is king and most important. The cuts you use will change the flavor though.
Seasoning the inside of a burger really only matters if you're making thicker pub-style burgers (not my favorite) imo. Thinner burger patties are usually perfectly good just with seasoning on the outside.
Word. I never do smash burgers. I don't have a griddle. I'm not a fan of smash burgers so much.
best meat for burger patties
Key Considerations for Choosing Meat for Burger Patties
Fat Content: Aim for ground beef with a fat content of 15-20% (e.g., 80/20 or 85/15). This balance provides flavor and juiciness without being overly greasy.
Meat Type:
Freshness: Always choose fresh meat from a reputable source. Freshly ground meat tends to have better flavor and texture.
Texture: Coarsely ground meat can provide a better bite and texture compared to finely ground options.
Seasoning: While the meat itself is important, don’t forget to season your patties with salt and pepper before cooking for enhanced flavor.
Recommendation: For classic beef burgers, use 80/20 ground chuck for the best combination of flavor, juiciness, and texture. If you want to experiment, consider blending ground beef with ground pork for added richness or using a mix of different cuts like brisket and short rib for gourmet burgers.
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