TL;DR
Carbon Rims
For those seeking carbon rims, Light Bicycle Co. is highly recommended for its great quality and customer service [1:1]. Farsports is another popular option, known for building wheels for big brands and offering positive reviews from cycling experts
[1:2]. Astral also offers carbon rim brake options, made in Oregon, and praised for their graphene grooved brake track
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Alloy Rims
Mavic Ksyrium SLR rims with Exalith braking surfaces are considered top-notch among alloy rim brake wheels [2:1]. Boyd Altamont and HED Ardennes Black are other notable mentions, with users praising the braking power and durability of these rims
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[2:7]. DT Swiss continues to be a reliable choice for alloy wheel sets
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Gravel and Versatile Options
For those looking to adapt road bikes for gravel cycling, HED Belgium rims are favored for their durability [5:1]. Challenge Almanzo 33 HTLR tires paired with HED Belgium rims provide a solid setup for gravel riding
[5:1]. Hunt wheels and Specialized Roubaix tires offer versatility for mixed terrain riding
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Considerations Beyond the Discussions
When choosing a road bike rim, consider factors such as intended use (e.g., racing, commuting), budget constraints, and compatibility with existing components like hubs and spokes. It's also crucial to ensure that the rim width matches your preferred tire size and provides adequate clearance on your bike frame.
A decade ago I built a rim brake 20/24h clincher wheelset on some CK hubs and Gigantex rims. Those rims are dead now and the owner is interested in building a new set on the CK hubs.
I did a quick check of my usual suppliers and it seems there aren’t many options for replacements. So what are you using these days?
I see Mavic is making a carbon clincher that might work.
Lookup Farsports. They are one the biggest carbon wheel brand from China who build wheels for big brands. Hambini, Peak Torque and China Cycling all have positive reviews for their wheels.
You could order just rims from Farsports AliExpress store or their China website: http://oem.farsports.cn Farsports.com only sells built wheels.
Astral has a few carbon rim brake options and they’re made in Oregon, they’re the sister brand of Rolf Prima and recently purchased by white industries so definitely super legit
Light Bicycle Co. I've built and owned quite a few of their rims and they've all been great quality and great to deal with.
https://www.lightbicycle.com/carbon-road-bike/carbon-road-cyclocross-bike-rim
Here to second/ third/ whatever this comment. I build wheels and can attest that the rims are of comparable quality to western brands. For rim brake, their graphene grooved brake track is absolutely worth the cost, IMO. The rims are very straight and true from the factory, meaning building with them is straightforward. They're my go-to if a client cracked a rim, warranty isn't an option and wanted something to rebuild.
I've owned a set of AR56 rim brake wheels (28mm external, 21mm hooked internal width, flyweight construction) laced to DT 240 straight pull hubs, and they were my favorite rim brake wheelset. I think they came out to about 1450g and the aerodynamics were at least on par with NACA profiled rims.
Contrast that to some bad budget brands (Superteam, FFWD). Happy to share what I've seen there, but the short summary is that the quality isn't on the same level as Light or reputable eastern brands.
The only downside with Light is that some of the rims come from China, so you're waiting about 2 months from point of purchase to delivery. Select their north American warehouse if time is of the essence. For best deals/ customization, take advantage of their Black Friday sales and build them up when they arrive in late January.
They're excellent, just make sure they're not too wide if you've got an old TT bike or whatever
Thank you. I appreciate the extra detail.
Yes! I've built three wheels with their rims...one a SON dynohub mated to their AR46 rim, the other a set of fixed gear wheels using their AR56 rims. I've been pleased. Good company, good products.
They even offer deal for peole in the industry, 5% for the lower end rims and 25% for the higher end ones
what size rims?
Also, if those hubs are road classics or something it might not be worth rebuilding them as you can't get parts anymore for most stuff from the rim brake era. King hubs wear in until they decide to stop supporting them.
700c and R45.
Boyd Cycling. They certainly still believe in the rim brake, as well as domestic manufacturing.
Glad to hear you figured things out. If you work at a shop, reach out to light bicycle about setting up an account. It's not a great margin, but they give you a discount on everything they sell so you can make a better margin if you're selling it on to a customer.
I have an old road bike I ride and I'd love to upgrade the 35ish year old wheels.
What are the absolute best alloy rim brake road wheels available new today?
How about a used one to look out for?
Assume price isn't an option.
Lightweight (for alloy) and aero options welcome.
Thanks!
I picked up a set of Boyd Altamonts a few months ago that I’ve been very happy with. I also wanted something a little stiffer without adding much weight. But if money isn’t an issue for you, the HEDs or Mavics others have mentioned may be the way to go.
I happen to have a set of 125th anniversary Mavic Ksyruim wheels that were state-of-the-art 10 years ago:
I got them on a low-miles used bike and never rode them. Interested? They either deserve to be ridden or in the hands of a collector but I've never gotten around to putting them up for sale.
Ugh, I'd love to put these on my Klein but I'd never be able to offer you a fair price for them
Let me know if you got that PM hoss. Definitely interested in these.
Pm sent!
Mavic Ksyrium SLR with Exalith braking surface
Avoid ones with the carbon spokes since those are proprietary and nearly impossible to find if you need a replacement.
Is the Ksyrium the flagship line for Mavic?
R-Sys is a step above and is marginally lighter at 30g but they use the carbon spokes.
You can’t go wrong with DT Swiss. They still make alloy wheel sets and aren’t impossible to find. I’d recommend wheelbuilder.com if you want something more custom. I’ve done a lot of business with them and they have great customer service.
Very happy with my HED Ardennes black with the special textured braking surface. I wasn't sure if the few hundred extra dollars would be worth it but I think it is! Definitely feel like I have much better braking power with these
HED Belgium, hands down.
Just so you’re informed… HED Jet series are just Belgium with a carbon fairing and they are just as strong, with an aero benefit.
I am looking to buy clincher carbon wheelset (i would really be pleased if the frame is like really big, so it looks better) that isn't crazy expensive, and is there a possibility that it can be really loud? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
When you say ‘frame is really big’ I’m assuming you mean, deep rims. If you want to buy a deep carbon wheel set just because you think they look cool, you’re probably wasting your money. If you have the money to spend then nobody can stop you though. Take a look at brands like Mavic, DT Swiss, Bontrager, Hunt, just to name a few. For what you’re after, just go onto any cycling online shop and do high to low.
With how this is worded, I would recommend against getting deep cheap carbon rims unless 1400$ is cheap to you.
Well since you said “best”, you definitely need to go buy some lightweight-meilenstein-obermayer’s
Also affectionately known as ‘The Wheelset of the People’
Hunt
Best can mean different things to different people so it might help if you define your intended use. The best carbon clincher for a time trialist would be vastly different than the best carbon clincher for a hill climber.
You should probably also specify a budget as "crazy expensive" can mean different things to different people.
You should probably also specify rim brake or disc brake and even what size tires you want to run (if you know that already).
Also deep section wheels can be difficult to handle in high winds so I don't think you would want to go with say 88mm deep wheels for general riding or a disc wheel - in fact they can be quite dangerous. For a time trial specialist you might want deep section wheels or even a disc wheel if you are used to it and are willing to only use them in good conditions, but it simply wouldn't be safe to ride them in everyday conditions.
I'll shoot though assuming that you want a wheelset for general riding I'd say a 45-50mm wheel is probably about right. I've got 3 sets of Bontrager carbon wheels including a 50mm Aeolus 5 TRL's and a pair of 47mm Aeolus XXX TLR 4's that I really like. The XXX's retail for about $2,500 so I'm not sure if that's in your budget or not. I really think Lightbicycle makes great budget wheels, and can be had under $1K depending on the model and hub chosen.
One more option if you are really looking budget is I bought a bike that came with a set of iCan Aero 40's and used them for a while before I upgraded and I was really impressed for as cheap of wheel as they are. They are a little narrow (18.35mm ID) for wider tires for the price I couldn't complain. I ended up selling them to a guy in my club that still uses and loves them.
As for loud hubs, I'm a fan of DT swiss hubs but they aren't super loud. Chris King hubs are really loud. The hubs on the iCan's (built by Formula in Taiwan) were fairly loud. Being cheaper hubs they had smaller bearings which wear a bit faster but again not bad hubs for as cheap as they are.
Hi all,
What are the best carbon rims for XC and marathon races? I'm not just looking for a 'fast' rim, but also one that is easy to handle downhill, of course durable, and under 1400g. Thanks! And for the hub, I was thinking about the DT Swiss 180.
I9 Enduro work well for me. Have them on a Kona HeiHei CR Do marathon races on them. Rear rim did crack first ride but was warranteed. Maybe a fluke.
I have a set of Nobl wheels with dt 180 hubs and berd spokes. Cost a lot (though Syd and Macky discount helped!) but they're light as hell and seem to handle anything I can throw at them. If I were doing it over again I might not bother with the DT 180s and go with 240s instead as I'm not sure the price increase was worth it for me there, but I have no complaints about the 180s -- good engagement and have been totally problem-free for me so far.
Good, painless experience buying from Nobl too. Someday eventually I'll probably buy a carbon wheelset for my gravel bike and when I do I'll go to them.
I built a set of we are one Revive rims with DT swiss 240s and bladed spokes. Total actual weight was 1375g once built. The rims are only $600 for both with the 15% discount for new buyers. Rims are 425g each. The bladed spokes save a ton of weight.
I weight 210 and I've been riding them more like trail rims and they have been fantastic. They are only 25mm wide, but they work great with 2.4in tires. I'm not sold on wider rims.
Roval Control Carbon. I have them. I rate them. Wide width makes them feel super planted too.
Berd wheels are a pretty solid choice. I have Roval Control wheels with DT 350 hubs, they have been good to me. I send my wheels out to Berd to get laced up with their spokes, labor and parts came in around $650.
i'm a gravel cyclist at heart but only have a road bike. want to upgrade wheels to make my roadbike as gravel as possible. max tire width is 32mm. can i get some recommendations for wheels/tires?
Can you run a 33mm? Challenge Strada Bianca TLR Pros in 33mm if they ever get restocked. Also maybe 32mm Conti GP5000 S TR but also hard to get and very pricey.
Gravel kings sk or ss are probably your best. That along with some hunt wheels
This is the way I went. I just ordered some Hunt 35 carbon gravel disc x-wide wheels and some GK slicks as I ride 70% on the roads. I currently have sks on the stock rims and they're overkill for my local trails. I've had the ss tires recommend as a really good middle ground.
Depends what you will be riding. I often run 32s on my Tarmac and it works well on most the local gravel. I'm currently running Specialized Roubaix tires which are have a pretty minimal tread pattern. If you are riding mostly in dry conditions, you don't need a lot treadwise.
You'll be surprised what you can ride on even 32mm tires. It's a great width!
I have a bike with stated width max width of 32mm and run Challenge Almanzo 33 HTLR. Pricey, but I like the tread pattern they have and they feel great.
As far as rims, I'm a HED fan, and I think the Belgiums (G or the regular road) are a great durable rim. To make them bullet proof and 4 season, get them laced to CK hubs with brass nipples. Run Vittoria Gravel Inserts to help protect against rim strikes, since you are running a relatively lower volume.
I'm interested in getting a new set of wheels for my road bike (a carbon Wilier, Ultegra, disc brakes). Currently I have a pair of Shimano RS 770. All I know I want is a lighter carbon set, but there are so many options. I understand aerodynamics are very important too. But aside from that I don't know exactly what to look for.
I have been eyeing Ursus Miura TC37, mainly because my LBS sells those, but I have not found a single review on them unfortunately. I have also been looking at the new Zipp 303 Firecrest which has gotten some great reviews. They are both in the same price range, but aside from that I have a hard time deciding.
In this price range ($2K for a set) there are lots of manufacturers competing, so I am sure there are even better choices. What should I look for, what to consider? Do you have any other tips or recommendations? Thanks!
Consider weight, depth, riding terrain, hubs, rim width, tire width you want to use.
Lighter/shallow wheels for climbing and deeper wheels/heavier wheels for flat land/aero/speed.
Reynolds makes some good wheels in that price range. I have heard good things about Nox Composites. Can customize the whole wheel set. Keep an eye out on used Enve’s too.
I only ride paved roads and I want a set of wheels that is allround, but any help uphill is welcome :). I have read that wide rims are popular and makes for a more comfortable ride, so I'd like to go for that. I am riding 26mm tyres now on one bike and 28 on the other, that's probably what I am going for in terms of tyres, 25-28 mm.
I am concerned deep rims would be sensitive to side wind gusts and also kind of heavy (?). But I do like to ride fast. Does deep rims help stabilising the bike at higher speeds?
My RS770 weigh almost 1700 grams. How would a set of deeper rim carbon wheels at the same weight benefit my ride?
Enve's are really expensive new, maybe second hand is an option there. What makes Enve's stand out from the rest?
Enve owner and possible shop rat here.
Enve's when bought new have an amazing warranty and crash replacement policy that is well worth the increased price. 5 year warranty and lifetime crash/incident replacement for the original owner.
Enve wheels are practically bombproof and I even use mine for commuting. Are they fast? Yes, I'm using the 3.4 and when I switched from H Plus Son wheels, I noticed how much easier it was to keep speed. I'll probably pick up a pair of 4.5 in another year or so, but the 3.4 works well in the wind(Chicago). Deep rims will be impacted by wind gusts, period. Will they cut through still air better, yes. When it comes to stabilizing, I'm actually not sure. It might have a slight impact, but I think there are other factors with the frame dimensions that will have a greater impact at higher speeds.
I've had 2 sets of hunt wheels and wouldn't look anywhere else now.
I have my Terra wheels with gravel tires for the Crux but I ride with some faster road groups every now and then and want a back up set of road wheels and tires to keep up with them easier.
What wheelset is the best bang for the buck and how deep of rims should I get? I don't do much climbing around here but sometimes I'll ride on the beach with a heavy cross wind so I'm a bit hesitant to get the deep dish 60s on the bike. Planning on running a 30mm gp5000 tubeless tire set up.
Take a look at lightbicycle wheels.
You can custom build a set or pick up a pre-build in their NA / EU warehouse.
I run Hunt Aerodynamicist wheels with gp 5k as tr 35. Fast AF.
I have the same Terra clx for road as for gravel with Mondo 35mm tires on the road set and Traser 50mm for gravel. Just perfect
I like the idea of clx but don’t love the price tag.
Elite g45 with 30mm
If the plan is 30mm tyres, make sure to get a rim that’s wide! So something like a Reserve maybe? Aim for 24-25mm internal and 30+ external for the rim! DT350 is plenty enough hub wise :)
Tyres are pretty much decided - 32c or 35c GP5K AS TR but with the ridiculous price of nice tyres it's one new set! (unless anyone wants to chime in with a cheaper option?)
I have three wheel sets available (courtesy of a killer sale a few years back).
Token Roubx (Hookless, 25mm internal, 33mm deep)
Token Ventoux (22mm internal, 36mm deep)
Token Konax (22mm internal, 52mm deep).
Low end aluminium rims are also an option but nobody wants that when there's nicer stuff in a box next to it.
Which would you use?
Edit - after people suggesting all of the above I've broken out the Konax Pros and paired them with some 28c GP4ks for the moment. Nice kit is wasted sitting in its box.
You own all three wheel sets?
I'd set up the Ventoux or Roubaix with the 35mm contis for comfort and crosswinds.
Then keep an eye out for some 30 or 32c premium tires on sale to put on the Konax for fast days where aero might be important and crosswinds less so. I've found killer deals on Schwalbe Pro Ones and Challenge Stradas before. But Pirelli P Zero are also great tires, Specialized Turbo Cotton, etc...
You own all three wheel sets?
It was a RIDICULOUS sale. Yes. although the Ventoux and the Konax are currently still new in the box while the Roubx have some 45c Riddlers on them.
Then keep an eye out for some 30 or 32c premium tires on sale to put on the Konax for fast days where aero might be important and crosswinds less so
They are going on a gravel bike for now (till the "new road frame" fund exists), but I do have some 28c GP4ks knocking about....
If you already have tires mounted, I'd leave that wheel set, put the gp5ks on the Ventoux, and maybe the gp4ks or some new premium tires on the Konax.
You can also send me the Konax, I'll give them a good shakedown and let you know how they perform. 😂
Michelin Power Roads are also great. Challenge Stradas I found to be dreamy. Not many terrible tires out there anymore.
The Stradas are dreamy and have literally 0 wet grip (or dry grip for that matter). Like half of the reviews are people saying that their tire slipped out and injured them in benign conditions like clean, paved climbs or slightly damp descents. It's in like the 40th 60th percentile for grip on BRR. There are definitely terrible tires out there.
I would just go with the fastest ones (i.e. the deepest ones). I personally don't see the point of going with shallower rims if you don't expect extreme winds or are going to be climbing the majority of the time.
I would just go with the fastest ones (i.e. the deepest ones). I personally don't see the point of going with shallower rims if you don't expect extreme winds or are going to be climbing the majority of the time.
Thats where I'm torn, I'm used to running 404s in the summer (The old ones lol) so I'm no stranger to deep wheels.
It's not however an "all day all year" setup. Nobody wants to deal with a twitchy front wheel on a dark descent while exhausted in the rain.
I do want the opinion though, regardless of whether it agrees with my thoughts.
I run 50mm light bicycle wheels for all my brevets, 30/32mm gp5000 on them... never had any problems with wind making them twitchy or anything else. The gp5k are good in the rain for me. The aero advantage seems to be noticeable for me, put up faster times on the same routes after ditching my 650x42 wheels on the same bike.
If you are not using them i would go for the hookless one; they will allow lower pressure and more comfort. My Vittoria N.ext 32mm become 33,5mm on similar rims (Hunt X-wide 35).
Have you used the GP5000 TR AS? I’m about 500 miles into mine and love them.
Edit: I’m using the 700x35
For what it’s worth, I’ve been impressed by them so far. They set up tubeless easy and feel fast.
Lots of talk about the strongest rim, strong is good. But I need a stiff rim, I ride a ripmo AF and I’m going to build a new rear wheel on an I9 1/1 hub 32 hole. The ripmo is a little flexy and I’m a big boy who corners hard for an amateur. What are the alloy 29” rims that are as stiff or close to as stiff as a carbon rim??
DT Fr541
Id like to know too. Theres very little comparison on all bike parts besides pov reviews saying nothing conclusive
I built up a set of dt swiss 350 hubs and velocity cliffhanger rims for my gravel/touring/bikepacking bike. Problem is the rear wheel has cracked around a couple spokes during my last adventure (Olympic GC lite) which was a pretty rough gravel tour around the Olympic Peninsula. I weight 220lbs and carry a pretty heavy load, probably total weight about 280+. Can you recommend a stronger rim to rebuild?
I was about the same weight last year plus kit on the bike, I rebuilt my hubs onto these rims - Ryde Andra 29D 622 rims ,these have been very good, also used on single track on moors and hills with no issues even loaded way above whats sensible
I'm also on Ryde Andras (36h) and am over the 280+
What was the spoke count on those cliffhangers?
I run a set of 36h Velocity Blunt 35s and they have been bombproof (if a bit overkill) Regardless of rim, a higher spoke count will be your friend - it’ll distribute the load across the rim better.
Yeah they are 32, I wish I got a 36h hub but they are getting harder to find.
I bought a 27.5" Velocity 36H Blunt rim last year through a local bike shop. It was a special order (one wheel only for the rear) and took about 2 weeks to arrive. It wasn't cheap but I love it. And yeah, it's overkill but you don't want to find out on the road that you should've done this or that, etc.
Cracking around the spoke nipples is a tell tale sign that the max spoke tension was exceeded
Came here to say the same thing. Staying within tension limits and balanced should solve the issue. Rebuild with the same rim and reuse the spokes just have it built to specification. Cliffhangers and Blunts have been my go to rim when folks need bomb proof.
There are accounts of crashes that total a frame/fork and the cliffhangers hardly need truing.
There is no much difference between 32 and 36 spokes.
If spoke tension is too high, this can cause rim to fail around spokes.
Use the biggest tires you can fit, the fatter the tire, the more absorption it will take.
I assume you dont sit on your bike when doing gnarly descends.
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