TL;DR
Finding Optimal Rune Setups
For players looking to quickly find the best rune setups, websites like op.gg are recommended as they provide detailed statistics on popular builds and runes [2:1]. Tools like Blitz can auto-configure runes for your chosen champion, but some users have found it unreliable
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[3:2]. An alternative is zar.gg, which offers a broader set of rune and item builds than Blitz
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Adapting Runes Based on Matchups
Understanding when to pick specific runes is crucial. For example, Grasp is generally solid against melee champions that you can safely proc it against, while Conqueror might be better in matchups requiring sustained combat [4:1]
[5:2]. Phase Rush is useful against champions you need to kite
[4:1]. Watching high elo streams or YouTube videos of pro players can also provide insights into effective rune choices against specific matchups
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Customizing Rune Pages
Many players recommend customizing rune pages based on your understanding of the game and the specific matchup. This involves learning the pros and cons of each rune and adapting them to fit your playstyle [3:1]
[3:4]. Some players change their runes every game, even when playing the same champion repeatedly, to maximize impact
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Common Rune Choices
Grasp is often paired with Inspiration (Biscuits, Approach Velocity) for early trading and ranged matchups [5:1]
[5:2]. Conqueror is favored for its scaling potential in mid-late game
[5:2]. While Comet was mentioned, there wasn't much discussion on its current effectiveness
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Considerations Beyond the Discussions
While these discussions provide valuable insights, it's important to remember that rune choices can vary greatly depending on individual playstyle, champion roles, and team composition. Experimenting with different setups and adjusting based on performance can lead to discovering new strategies and improving gameplay.
I just started playing lol again after a long break and I wonder, how am I supposed the new runes?
Before the new runes I had different pages depending on wether I'd be AD, AP, tank, tanky supp etc. And I would just choose the page after I picked my champ.
I like to decide in champ select which role I'll play and then I choose a champ I feel like playing. Since I play different champs I look up the best rune page for them but I don't have the time in champ select.
Since I only have 3 rune pages now, am I supposed to change them in champ select for every champ I want to play? Or must I decide which 3 champs I wanna play beforehand?
Or do I just need to learn what all the runes do and which ones are good on which champs and have that knowledge in my head?
Well in general if you can't remember the information you probably shouldn't be playing league which has 140~ champions each with 4+ ability's if 5 rune paths with each with 4 slots out of 12-15 mutually exclusive runes is a problem. But the main problem here is that you can't type "X champions.gg" and click twice to see the most popular build path in the at minimum 30 seconds it gives you to let you pick runes if your last pick and chose at the 0 countdown.
You'll learn the new runes in your head and you'll be able to easily know what you need for the champ you're playing, unless you're learning a new champ, then you'll just look it up
I usually have the time to quickly search up the optimal rune build.
Hi there, im looking for advice on where to quickly see builds and runes. I know stat sites will have most common runes taken vs matchups, but ive found that sometimes the most common isnt really the best, or that the most common mythic and runes are actually two different build options (cant think of one off the top of my head, but olaf top is kindof an example, stridebreaker most popular mythic but his most popular build is ravenous into jak'sho but since fewer games last until 2 items it wont appear as often)
Anyways yeah, just want good sources to find builds and runes that go with the build, preferably with a little description of when or why to go those items/runes.
check out op.gg
I have BLITZ installed and it auto configures the Runes for the Champion I choose. But I have noticed it can be very erratic and I don't really like what it does at times. What is the alternative, as there seems to be very limited space available for custom rune config. I was hoping I could setup at least one RUNE config for each champ I play.
I have 3 rune setups for my go to champs. I use the last one to fill out when I play someone other than my main 3. I just do a quick google to find runes for champs I don’t play often.
I used Blitz at first and had similar problems. It just isn’t always reliable. I don’t know if you’re a new player or what your level is, but if you understand the purpose of each rune, you don’t need them to be set automatically. Setting them yourself will allow you to adapt to the match instead of autopiloting, and you might find a new setup to try.
If you’re not confident in your rune understanding, keep using Blitz and try to learn what runes are used by what kind of champs. Once you’re comfortable, you can preset some pages for your main champs and have a spare to fill. I’ve found it to be a solid tactic. Just be sure you pay attention in champ select; you have plenty of time to set runes and it’s not as difficult to set them each match as it sounds.
I change my runes every game, even when playing the same champ 10 times in a row, it´s just too impactful to not do it.
One glance at whole enemy team and you should know what main rune to take, fill in the rest to manage lane.
I used to use blitz, and recently stopped. I know it’s probably not the advice you were hoping for, but you really only need 1 rune page - if you watch pros stream, they update it in champ select before the match starts once they know their matchups.
I find this helpful for 2 reasons:
If you have to think about your runes, you have to think about your playstyle more actively. The best examples I can think of are dark harvest / electrocute on assassins and legend alacrity / tenacity / bloodline. Neither decision is “correct” 100% of the time, but if you take dark harvest because it was recommended and don’t play to maximise stacks, you often should’ve taken electrocute.
It is possible to unlock more rune pages, but 1 for each champ could really stack up fast. If you don’t play a large champ pool, you’ll mostly need to decide between secondaries anyways (“do I need bone plating or second wind in this lane?”)
Use zar.gg it’s better than blitz
Not really when it comes to runes, though. Blitz has better options to pull from a larger set of rune and item builds than zar.gg does.
best would be to just learn and remember the pros and cons of all the relevant runes for your champs. usually you should think about the runes (though some champs dont really change runes like ever) not just have it set in stone
Can you guys help me decide what runes to pick against which matchup like when to game conqueror when to take phase rush etc
Im just peak emerald so take this with grain of salt, but I watch a ton of high elo streams. Roughly in order:
So what I recommend is you just YouTube while in loading screen “yifan jayce vs “enemy” and then see what he takes and I copy that he has a lot of knowledge about jayce so I copy him and it always works well compared to when I try something different
Could anyone give me a rundown of when to pick what? Been defaulting to grasp recently but decided to pick conqueror against a Jayce (didn't go well) so I need some help figuring that out
Grasp is all around solid, especially with inspiration (biscuits, approach velocity). I think very solid for ranged match-ups or for early trading, you'll usually win short trades with grasp + Q poking and fighting for lvl 2, and less ghoul reliant. Against Jayce 2nd wind, d shield, and biscuits could have been better.
Conqueror is still strong, and it scales better in mid-late game, but you don't have room for inspiration. I think if you're not confident you can snowball an early lead with grasp, Conqueror and playing around ghoul to stack it would be better.
Where comet???
I don't have much experience with comet, I don't think I used it since the rework, but someone who has can comment on it's pros and cons
I personally go Grasp, Demolish,Second Wind (you can go Bone Plating depending on match up but you can't go wrong with Secodn Wind) and then Revitalize (or any of the other 2, I jsut value the sustain Grap, Second Wind and Revitalize gives me in lane)
Then I go Sorcery Second with Manaflow Band for mana sustain and Celerity for the movespeed, I just really like movespeed, it makes me reach with Q easier than if I don't have it.
You can also go Inspiration second wiyh Biscuits and Approach Velocity for example but I just don't like playing without any mana sustain so I go Sorcery Second.
All things being equal, what are your favorite rune builds and why, what types of runes benefit which game modes most, and which 2 rune builds do you like to run together? I used to run circle/sprite because I liked the mobile damage and having a lot of control over which mob I focused on, but I’m liking meteors more and more, and giving up the healing sprite feels hard to me but I’m noticing it’s less and less valuable.
Any input/points are appreciated.
Well, sadly, not all things are actually equal. Circles and Swords are best for PvE while Sprites and sometimes Meteors are better for PvP.
In order to maximize chances for Tracking Eye, I use…
What are the specific runes of each if I may ask? For example, I only see Sawblade circle, Spin SPD Up, and Circle. What is the 4th one? Same for the others haha sorry I’m slow
The fourth circle is Ring of Agony.
Main Weapon Runes
Elemental Runes
Circle Runes
Wouldn't using 2 main 4 circle and 2 sprite be better for maximizing tracking eye? I may be mistaken but the frost shock runes cause improved freeze and improved shock to enter the purple ability pool and sprites cause only 1 purple ability to enter the pool
No. Because by introducing Sprites, you’re adding more Epic skills to the skill pool. The “Jan build” as this build is called on Discord adds zero extra Epic skills, which are the only ones that affect Tracking Eye’s odds.
Wait, picking the runes increases the chance for certain skills?
Do I need to pick up the circle skills aswell or do I try to go for weapon-dps (multishot/Attack speed)?
Yes because they introduce different numbers of skills, which dilutes the pool, therefore decreasing or increasing your chances of certain skills.
Sometimes I don’t pick any circle skills at all and other times I do. I actually like the flexibility.
Can you explain hoe circles are better for pve please. In my opinion it is only good in those time chapters.
A couple big reasons:
All of that being said, I played Meteors mostly until Chapter 40 and switched to Circles when I discovered the optimized Tracking Eye build.
what is the go to pvp setup
Never seen that many golds
I really like a sword build for chapters, tower and some bosses. The meteor potion magnet is really good coupled with the legendary strike potion rune, giving you 3 extra sword with each meteor (6 if you get the double sword skill)
I don't really like circles for pve as I'm more of a long distance player, but they are super strong if you have the etched rune, also top tier in arena and in some bosses in seal battle
Also elemental runes are part of almost all my builds. Frostshock especially is so valuable in pve for crowd control and AOE .
Do you create a rune page for every champion you play or do you create rune pages for certain roles or classes? In my case I have rune pages for every champion I'm currently playing. It looks something like this:
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Ornn (Grasp) | Nunu (Aftershock) | Anivia (Comet) | Ashe (Lethal) | Braum (Guardian) |
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Quinn (Electrocute) | Xin Zhao (Hail) | Ahri (Electrocute) | Xayah (Lethal) | Rakan (Guardian) |
One rune page that's being changed up every game.
I don't see a point in premade runepages - it's best to set them up individually every game for the best possible set up.
Having multiple rune pages only made sense for me when we had actual runes (marks, seals, glyphs and quints), not masteries 2.0 as we have right now. Then I had 20 pages and it was still too little sometimes.
I mainly use premade rune pages (that I change around per game ofc, but like I don't need to swap from domination to precision AND get a new secondary tree) because there's a lot of animations in the client which makes it sometimes borderline kill itself or slow down so I'd rather not be unable to save my rune page changes or finish what I'm doing due to lag.
The most I change is the secondary tree while I have something for precision, sorcery, etc. which I can choose whatever keystones and subrunes I want.
Since i had 20 rune pages on the old system, i made a rune page for every keystone and change them accordingly every game
I only have two runepages, so I just change them in champion select as I need to.
Yea same most rune pages i use are pretty similar i have one for electrocute and one for conc and occasionally have to fully rework one for sorcery or resolve but u only really change 2 things most of the time
What i hate is when people blindly copy stuff from sites like op.gg u.gg so on..
Why do people always check most popular/highest winrate build and copy them without thinking? Thats stupid way....imo. For example. Highest winrate can have sorcery/inspiration tree secondary, u copy that and get demolished by counterpick where U NEEDED RESOLVE to survive.
F.e. i play riven and copied highest winrate runes (precision+inspiration)...in a game i bought long sword(same reason - winrate)....then i got placed against teemo and that became hard lane for me coz i have no sustain(second wind in resolve tree and doran shield). Guys, staap this....start thinking a bit
I have 25 pages and ever since Runes Reforged I have used a grand total of one page. It takes 5 seconds to setup your runes, what do you need more for?
I have pretty nearly full legendary runes, but im not sure which I should be using. I bought the etched elemental because the top players in my server use it, but can’t quite equip it yet. Any suggestions? Not sure what rune combo to run
Prioritize ur circle runes.
Ring of agony should be equipped.
Circle should be equipped.
Spin speed up
Don’t equip meteorite potions that’s a waste. Same with strike potion. It should be circles < sprite < sword <meteorite when it comes to usefulness
Appreciate the feedback, I heard circles was best for oracle to get main weapon skills, but is circle still good for bosses / mobbing? Or even boss tower levels
It really depends on the boss. Theres a lot of bosses u can literally circle around and they can’t damage you and the entire time ur hitting them with ur circle. (This becomes even easier when u get the etched circle rune)
I got told on the discord to change all of my stuff to meteorite for pvp
Just for arena (pvp).
What about elements? The 30% increase damage when frozen rune is pretty good.
How can you have that many legendary runes! I’m lvl 42, and only have 1 Legendary?? I play and do my things every day!
My thought as well. What lvl are you in, and how many legendary do you have?
Id say use the ones I circled and take out the ones I crossed out
These are exactly the changes I made thanks!
You should use swords because circle build it needs the rotating circles rune
Mainly because healing sprite (especially against tower levels with all bosses ) is extremely useful. Same with freezing one. Swords can be useful but other than dragon sword occasionally pushing enemies back they aren’t as useful. (Plus I’m currently running cat character who already pushes mobs back)
ive been wondering what the best rune on sett is. ive been running conquerer on him for the most part just want to know what most people run on him
Hail of blades is great for your laning phase, you can pretty much burst someone if you do a good combo on them, but conqueror is way better if your game stretches out to late
Conq is better in general. HoB is useful when you’re playing him full glass canon. Conq gives you sustain so you don’t die instantly.
Conq is better early and late
Laughs in summon aery
Where's omni?
glacial augment :::)
Conquer is just too good of a rune right now given the insane damage and healing you can get in extended fights. However if Riot nerfs Conquer then grasp and building tank is Hella fun
Do you guys run any fancy rune setups for jungle style or just the usual graps if tank and phase rush if ad? Feels like grasp is a waste on jungle champs
I like glacial augment, free boots, approach velocity. It's hard to stack grasp when you aren't in lane enough.
phase rush is the only non troll option. others are fun tho.
Phase rush specifically is good but the sorcery tree is so bad on him compared to resolve, inspiration or precision that I can't bring myself to use it.
Keystone matters way more then anything else. Grasp from jungle is troll and aftershock is pretty meh. I feel you but phase rush is way better.
Glacial augment can be really good as well.
No it's really not compared to pr but it's fun.
Grasp is only good if you’re also going heartsteel and maybe even spirit visage. Phase rush, aftershock and glacial augment are all good in other builds
Glacial with sorcery second
Honestly steeling the Darius jungle build might not be a bad idea, just change the runes to glacial or phase rush
best rune setups for different champions
Key Considerations for Rune Setups:
Champion Role: Different champions excel in various roles (top, mid, jungle, ADC, support). Tailor your rune choices to the specific role and playstyle of the champion.
Playstyle: Consider whether the champion is aggressive, defensive, or utility-focused. This will influence your choice of primary and secondary runes.
Synergy with Abilities: Choose runes that enhance the champion's strengths or compensate for weaknesses. For example, champions with high burst damage may benefit from runes that amplify their damage output.
Meta Trends: Stay updated on the current meta, as rune effectiveness can change with patches and balance updates.
Adaptability: Be prepared to adjust your rune setup based on your lane opponent or team composition.
Popular Rune Setups:
Top Lane (Fighter/Tank):
Mid Lane (Mage/Assassin):
Jungle (Tank/Assassin):
ADC (Marksman):
Support (Engage/Enchanter):
Recommendation: Always experiment with different rune setups in normal games to find what works best for your playstyle and the specific champion. Websites like OP.GG or U.GG can provide updated statistics and popular rune choices based on high-level play.
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