TL;DR The best wetsuit depends on fit, features, and personal preferences. Popular brands include Patagonia, Feral, O'Neill, and Elios. Consider buying during off-season sales for better deals.
Fit and Comfort
The most crucial factor in choosing a wetsuit is the fit. Different brands have varying cuts that cater to different body types, so it's essential to try them on before purchasing [1:1]
[4:4]. A well-fitting wetsuit will keep you warmer and more comfortable than one that doesn't fit properly
[4:9]. It's recommended to buy from a shop where you can try the wetsuits on rather than online
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Brand Comparisons
Several brands are popular among users, each with its own strengths. Patagonia is often recommended for its eco-friendly options [1]. Feral is praised for its warmth and durability, especially for slimmer individuals
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[4:2]. O'Neill is another widely recognized brand, though some users find their sizing inconsistent
[4:8]. Elios offers customizable options, allowing you to tailor the suit to your specific needs
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Features and Materials
When selecting a wetsuit, consider the features that matter most to you, such as flexibility, warmth, or eco-friendliness [1:1]. Most wetsuits are made from similar neoprene materials, but differences arise in the liners, panel cuts, and stitching
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[4:7]. Higher-end suits generally offer better performance and comfort, particularly in colder waters
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Budget-Friendly Options
For those seeking budget-friendly options, buying during off-season sales can yield significant savings [1:5]. Brands like Cressi and Beuchat offer affordable models that still provide good performance
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[5:3]. Websites like http://Surfundski.de may also offer competitive prices for European buyers
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Personal Recommendations
While these discussions provide valuable insights, it's important to prioritize your own needs and preferences when choosing a wetsuit. Consider factors such as the type of water you'll be in, how often you'll use the wetsuit, and any specific features that are important to you.
So you're looking for a new wetsuit? Well, I have bad news.
If you search this sub for wetsuit recommendations (a new thread appears everyday asking "which is the best wetsuit brand?") you will find yourself dumbfounded.
Well... as claimed by the highest upvoted comment in one post, you should jump out of the couch and run towards your nearest surf shop to buy a Patagonia. It is the best brand. Without changing clothes, you put on a long jacket (to cover your pajama) and get ready to leave your house. But before making your way to the surf shop you decide to double-check if that really is the best option and look at another post.
Well... according to the highest upvoted comment in this other post Patagonia is shite. It is stiff. Sure it is warm, but it will feel like wearing an english medieval knights' armour out in the water. Instead of that, you should go for a Ripcurl which is beyond a shadow of a doubt the best neoprene money can buy. Weren't Patagonia suits the best? You check yet another post.
Well... Ripcurls sure are flexible and warm. But they will start tearing up after half a season. You should definitely buy a O'Neill!
You get the picture.
How long a suit will last will depend on several factors: your physique (do you have really broad shoulders?), how frequently you use it, how well you care for it etc. So it will be very hard to reach a consensus on the best brand.
Moreover, it has been already shared in this sub that the vast majority of the brands outsource their manufacturing process to the same Taiwanese factory (https://stabmag.com/news/every-wetsuit-youve-ever-owned-was-made-by-these-guys/)
So, does it really matter which brand is the best? I don't think so.
I am also looking for a new wetsuit. My plan is to select the features that I want: 4/3mm, chest-zip, no-hood, seams taped on both sides and thermal lining. And go for the cheapest wetsuit that fulfills these criteria.
Probably that might be Needessentials, because they are cheap. But if any other brand has an awesome sale on wetsuits, then I will go with that deal.
Anyway, probably it won't make a difference.
Edit: i am not taking fit into account in this analysis
Hey! I know this thread is a year old, but I kinda need help. My plan was to wait for the summer or for some incredible sale to get one, and I liked the idea of not caring about the brand, only about what I want in the wetsuit, but I couldn't find anywhere to compare prices of different brand wetsuits with similar characteristics. Would you mind helping me so I can compare them and decide? I live in Spain, if that helps, for the shipping costs and availability. Thanks :)
Honestly every brand's 'cheap' wetsuit is the same, their 'good' wetsuit is the same, and super expensive wetsuit is the same. What it comes down to is how they fit. This matters with really cold water wetsuits since you need a good fit and comfort to be able to stay out a while or you're gonna have a shit time.
For 3/2s it doesn't matter just get the cheapest one and accept it if it's not perfect.
Whichever one fits the best. They may be sourced from the same Taiwanese factory but they have different cuts.
They aren't made in Taiwan. The manufacturer is headquartered in Taiwan but runs its actual manufacturing operations in places like Thailand. All companies have their own design specifications and components. Check out the construction and materials on a higher-end suit and you'll see they are pretty different.
I think the reason why all these wetsuits are so similar in performance is that first, wetsuit technology doesn't progress much or very quickly, and second, all these companies have figured out the price point/quality/cost equilibrium.
When it gets warm again and the demand goes down. You don’t buy a winter wetsuit in the winter you buy them in the summer when they’re cheaper and on sale, but last year model that is on clearance! A little planning goes a long way.
While I agree with you, that does not address the issue. If every brand is on sale which do you choose?
If you can't decide based on features, do so based on fit and comfort
All brands fit different it’s a matter of which one fits your body type the best and which one had the features your looking for. Some people are concerned about different features like warmth over flexibility or that the suit is eco friendly. Pick the couple of feature most important to you and find the suit that matches. There’s no one answer to this question everyone’s preference is different.
Forget the best brand. . . What is actually available? Seems like supply chain issues still mean significant inventory shortages
Anyone know when inventory is supposed to normalize?
What’s the best drysuit these days? Been using a goretex kokatat the past couple years and I haven’t been super impressed.
My paddling club had long been very loyal fans of Kokatat quality and warranty, but the last few years I hear more and more about their declining quality and warranty issues. It seems a lot of people are looking real hard at Immersion Research these days and are happy with them. If I was buying a drysuit, that's probably what I would do.
Similar here.
I've had a Kokatat suit since ~2002, it was replaced once under lifetime warranty in ~2011.
They're popular and super busy, their customer service has dropped off as a result. Their pricing has increased (so has everyones') but now I don't think the price relative to product/service is as good as IR's. I don't have an IR suit, but a lot of friends do.
I've bought 3 Kokatat drysuits for $200-250 on FB Marketplace and eBay...totally worth the cost of gasket replacement.
Also, Kokatat gaskets suck. They have about a 3 year lifespan. NRS gaskets will go 5-7 years (but the necks are formed different). Lately I've been replacing them with dive drysuit gaskets off Amazon.
I have an NRS gasket on my GMER. I don't remember exactly how to do it, but it will go on a Kokatat fairly easily.
Everyone will have their own biases towards what they own.
Comfort, weight, movability and fit - after looking at what you want to spend
Immersion Research hands down
NOT KOKATAT. I’ll save you the diatribe and just agree that it’s gone significantly downhill and I always feel the need to spread the mediocre word now.
Most dry: Kokatat gore Tex models. Most durable and best fit: IR models. Slightly less expensive: everything else. If your Kokatat is not dry you need to send it in for testing and repair, adjust the sizing of the suit and/or gaskets, or change your expectations of what dry means. You will be wet in any dry suit just from sweat and condensation. 100% dry is not possible just due to biology and physics.
Hello Guys,
I'm considering buying a wetsuit for pool competitions,
what are the best wetsuits on the market for performance?
Thanks to everyone
I see popular wetsuits C4, Elios, Salvimar, Orca, might depend of area you live I guess decision will be based on the fitting to your body and budget
I love Elios smoothskin suits for just about everything. You can customize every aspect - neoprene type, thickness, inside lining, exteriors, density, and overall suit layout. I have a few custom suits and I'm super happy with the quality and performance.
Feral, warmest and most durable suit I’ve ever had.
How is the cut on Ferals? Slim? Relaxed?
I've only tried Ripcurl and O'neill. The Rip had too long a torso and shorter legs. O'neill fits well although the legs are a bit short, but I don't really care about that. Both Mediums.
My Feral 5:4 fits me perfectly, but I’m definitely on the slimmer side. I used to work at a surf shop that was an O’Neill distributor, and I had the hardest time finding an O’Neill suit that fit well. The M’s were always a little short on the arms and legs and the MT’s were too long in the same areas. For context I’m about 155lbs and just under 6’.
For me though the defining quality of my Feral has been it’s durability. I’ve tried nearly every wetsuit brand under the sun except Matuse. Theyve all started to fail in some way around a year in, even when washed, dried, and stored properly. Im rounding the 2.5 year mark on my Feral and the only damage on it is from a time I dried it a little too close to a camp fire.
The one that fits you best. A boutique brand that is too large or lets water in through the legs/neck will perform worse than the one you is on clearance that fits you like a glove.
I recently got into surfing and I 100% agree with what you said, get one thats durable and fits your size.
If i understand correctly there's barely any significant differences because they all come from the same factory. Biggest difference is shape/cut, which is also very important for how warm it will actually keep you. A large tall in one size might have wider shoulders and narrower waist, while another will have longer legs or a bigger stomach area.
So the best thing is to try them out and just find a brand that suits your body shape best
They do come from the same factory (Sheico) but each brand uses its own material, cut, design, thread etc. The factory just puts it all together; its not like the brands go to the factory and buy whatever the factory is producing and put their label on it (actually I lie - the factory does produce a lot of the innovations itself, but produces them for a specific brand and then makes it for that brand only). There are some interesting IP protection and secrecy arrangements
But, yes, fit is the most important. Even just looking at size charts, an XL in one brand might have a chest or waist size that is 2 or 3 inches different to another brand
not entirely true. Very few surf companies (especially the big brands) have proprietary rubber through Sheico or Yamamoto, or any other neoprene manufacture. Essentially all of them use the same combination of two or three neoprene foams (with Sheico offering more options). The biggest difference between brands are: the liners they choose to have adhered to the neoprene, the panel cuts, and the glue/stitching types.
O'Neill
I think you need to try a few , because fit will determine what you like in my opinion
And make sure to buy from the shop! Don’t try them on then buy online.
This. I believe the brands have different cuts for body shapes. Find your fit OP
I’ve a lined wetsuit easy for getting in and out of without conditioner. It’s a decathlon 7mm work horse and I’m looking to replace it. Any help would be very appreciated
Since you said decathlon i suspect you are from Europe Have a look at this i bought a wetsuit for like 90 euros here
https://surfundski.de/vandsport/snorkling/undervandsjagt
Maybe there will be extra shipping too for you but the website is legit
This is a great website thanks for sharing
Dude just buy some water based lube (powdered form) and buy yourself something made by Beuchat. Current best of the cheap models in my experience, and I go through a suit a year.
right now nootica has a sale on the Cressi Ricciola wetsuit for ~160 eur
I have the 7/5mm for Algarve ~16c waters and it is amazing! very comfy, very warm (sometimes I have to flush it if I'm doing lots of effort kicking), highly recommend and great price!
I’m looking into buying a wetsuit for the cooler months, probably upwards of 4 mm. Most questions revolve around thickness, but I was wondering if there are any brands you’d swear by. Big difference between buying something on Amazon vs REI…
O'Neill Technobutter gets really high marks. I bought a Quicksilver 4/3 for surfing because it was on sale, but next time I'm going with Technobutter because it's soooo much nicer.
https://www.surfdock.com/blogs/news/oneills-technobutter-3-what-s-the-hype-about-and-is-it-worth-it
O'neil and Rip Curl.
Isurus and haven’t looked back since.
Deeply: https://deeply.com/
Has the best price/quality performance in my opinion.
ProMotion wetsuits. They have designs for Wind and Stand Up Sports. https://www.wetsuit.com
Has anyone owned a zipperless wetsuit? I searched on here a bit and was looking at the best wetsuit in the "budget" class which is zipperless
I have a zipperless 3/2 e bomb I got on sale. It’s two seasons old and I still like it a lot. I wouldn’t get anything thicker in a zipperless. A 3/2 is easy to get out of but I’m pretty sure I’d rip some stitches on anything thicker. I don’t notice any increased flushing on the 3/2 but I could imagine it being more noticeable if I were in colder waters.
yes, ripcurl flashbomb. I would never get a zipperless suit again. it got looser and looser and more flushier. i think it was a marketing gimmick.
Furnace carbon, extremely warm and stretchy but never ever buying again because its just not worth the fucking struggle of getting out of it
There is a really interesting podcast about wetsuits (never thought i would type those words!) from a podcast called 'Lipped'. Its their 'wetsuit guide 2018' episode. They speak to most of the major players about what they are doing and aiming for - so things like durability vs stretch vs warmth (the stretchier the less warm, because closing off the seams reduces stretch, and other fun facts like that). Well worth a listen
thanks will check this out
TL;DW
Warmest 3/2mm - Rip Curl Heat Seeker ($500USD)
Stretch and Comfort Award - O'Neill Hyperfreak III ($299USD)
Best $300 and Under - O'Neill Hyperfreak III ($299USD)
Best Looking - Feral 4/3 Backzip ($375USD)
Fastest Drying - Rip Curl Heat Seeker with Flashbomb
Best Over $450 - 7TILL8 4/3mm Custom ($580USD)
$500 for a wetsuit? No thanks.
just buy one on from needessentials. I'll never go back.
same, super pleased with my 4/3 thermal chest zip and booties
Any review that does not take into account durability (eg how is it after 50 surfs, 100 surfs, 150 surfs) is imho kind of meaningless.
I’m looking to get a 4/3 wetsuit, which ones are the best on the market?
I got the NeedEssentials Yulex No Zip 4/3 last spring and have been stoked on it. Good stretch, and warmth. Some minimal seam leakage after a few months of use (I went with the option that doesn’t have the fancy seams). I think it’s a steal for natural rubber suit.
Going to Maine in August and looking for a quality 3/2 wetsuit that can last me a long time. Would only really use it a few times a year but want it to last. Want something flexible. Any recommendations?
If you want a quality wetsuit that's going to last you more than a season or two, go with a glued and double blind stitched suit from one of the industry leaders. You also need to dry it in the shade and thoroughly rinse it each time you use it. If you don't take the basic care measures the suit will degrade much, much faster. I like Ripcurl, Xcel, Feral, Vissla, and a few others. The glued and double blind stitched (GBS) suits don't leak in the seams. They have seams that are taped on the inside and are far warmer.
Appreciate that! Any ripcurl that’s your favorite?
I have Rip Curl Dawn Patrol suits in 3/2 and 5/3 that I've been using for 8 years (since I started surfing). I'm not a daily surfer but prob average weekly, they've seen hundreds of surfs and a bit of snorkelling.
The 3/2 is falling apart now so I bought a replacement 3/2 Dawn Patrol, but the older one is still intact enough that I use it as a beater for warm season surfing. I live in Southern Aus.
Yeah, I live in Northern California where typical ocean temperatures are anywhere from 48° F during the coldest winter and spring days up to maybe 62 during the summer. Average sea temps are 52-58 which is cold. I have a 5/4 Flashbomb Hooded wetsuit for Fall, Winter and Spring. It's warm, but it's a bit much when it's Summer or Spring. For milder days I have a Manera 4/3 Hooded X10D. During warm days in Spring, Summer and Fall. I could benefit from a 3/2 full wetsuit, but I only budgeted for two wetsuits. I like the hooded wetsuits because it keeps the chill and the sun off of my hairless dome. Hooded wetsuits are great, I just roll down the hood when it's too hot.
Surfing when your cold is no fun. I usually surf with booties as well. I have a 3 mm pair and a 5 mm pair. I don't bother with gloves, but I have been out on several days where I could have benefited from them. You know the days when you get out of the water and you can't unlock your car door because your hands have no circulation or dexterity in them because they're so cold.
For me. The best value for your dollar is Xcel or Needessentials wetsuits.
Feral and nothing else compares
If you’re ok with more name brand the billabong Furnace and Revolution are the stretchiest suits I’ve owned for flexibility. Downside is they fall apart and leak like crazy even with very proper care
Flexible? Hyperfreak as someone already said especially because you’re only using it a few times a year
There’s Yamamoto suits like Feral/Colby but I’d say they’re slightly more stiff than a hyperfreak but dry faster and last longer
I also like needessentials suits, they’re not like the lambo of suits but they’re just a stock mid tier suit with no fluff. It’s like 200$ for a 3/2. In the past I’ve bought 2 needessentials suits and just cycle them the whole season
Hyperfreak O’Neal but original not the fire
I liked my Feral hooded 3/2 better.
Hello!
I am looking for some advice for my next wetsuit. I have broad shoulders, a small waist, and wider hips/muscular thighs. I surf in Northern California and wear 4/3's all year round. I surf 3-4 days a week. In the past I have had an Oneill Hyperfreak, a Feral, and a Matuse wetsuit (all chest zips
). The Oneill and the Feral fit well but fell apart quickly. I hated the Matuse (the design of the entry was ridiculous).
I was wondering if anybody has had a good experience with any different brands? I would probably repurchase a Feral suit but my current one has only lasted about a year. It would be great to find something that fits well, has some stretch in the shoulders without a sea of extra material around the waist, and would last more than a year.
Any advice welcome. Thanks!
I also have broader shoulders and a smaller waist — narrower hips but also some muscle in the thighs and also surf in Northern California! I have bought billabong wetsuits for my past 2 wetsuits and I have found them to be more comfy in the shoulders but still snug enough in the waist. One was a furnace synergy and the other was a salty dayz. I definitely prefer fit to a few other wetsuits I’ve had.
i hiiiiighly recommend Finisterre’s wetsuits. I’m also 5’6’’ 125~ lbs and their size 8T is perfection. I got their 3.5/2.5 and feel great on the northeast coast usa/canada. They use natural rubber-formulated Yulex.
O’Neill, Xcel, Ripcurl, and i *think* Roxy ALL come out of the same factory, same makers, same materials. They just put a wall in between the company sections. Also, Neoprene is toxic.
Yulex is natural.
Patagonia is another good company that uses Yulex, but their suits tend to be more diver-oriented [stiffer in the arms].
Japanese suitmakers have a innovated neoprene by using limestone instead of petroleum. Look up Yamamoto wetsuits.
ALSO hiiiighly recommend places like Maine Surfer’s Union, who will custom-build your wetsuit exactly for your body using ethically sourced materials and high quality tailoring. It’s worth the few extra dollars in the long run, and they repair your suit for free for its entire life.
tl;dr, don’t waste money on suits that are built to breakdown. Invest in good companies using good materials.
Thanks this is super helpful! I have been curious about Finisterre
I bought a ripcurl suit 4/3 this past winter, and I really like it. I think their sizing is a little screwy, so definitely go by their size chart if you go that way. I'm only in a wetsuit part of the year, but I found it was an easy suit to get on and off, even new!
Ive noticed many of the brands have switched to AUS sizing.
I’ve had this same experience. Rip curl size up
best wetsuit
Key Considerations for Choosing the Best Wetsuit:
Thickness: Wetsuits come in various thicknesses (measured in millimeters). A 3/2mm suit is suitable for warmer waters, while a 4/3mm or 5/4mm suit is better for colder conditions. Choose based on the water temperature you'll be in.
Fit: A well-fitting wetsuit is crucial for warmth and flexibility. Look for a suit that fits snugly without being restrictive. Pay attention to the neck, wrists, and ankles to minimize water entry.
Material: Most wetsuits are made from neoprene. Higher-quality neoprene offers better insulation and flexibility. Look for suits with features like thermal linings for added warmth.
Seams: The type of seams affects durability and water resistance. Flatlock seams are comfortable but less water-resistant, while glued and blind-stitched seams provide better insulation and are more watertight.
Entry System: Wetsuits come with different entry systems, such as back zip, chest zip, or zip-free. Chest zips and zip-free options often provide better flexibility and warmth.
Recommendations:
O'Neill Hyperfreak: Known for its flexibility and comfort, this wetsuit features a 3/2mm thickness, great for warmer waters, and has a chest zip entry for easy access.
Rip Curl Flashbomb: This suit is excellent for colder conditions (4/3mm or 5/4mm options) and features a quick-dry lining, making it warm and comfortable.
Xcel Drylock: Offers a great balance of warmth and flexibility, with a 4/3mm thickness and a chest zip entry. It's designed for colder waters and has excellent insulation properties.
Takeaway: Choose a wetsuit based on the water temperature, your body type, and the type of activities you'll be doing (surfing, diving, etc.). Investing in a high-quality wetsuit will enhance your comfort and performance in the water.
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