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Best Wine Regions to Explore for Beginners

TL;DR For beginners, exploring wine regions like Bordeaux, Burgundy, Mosel, Tuscany, Rioja, and Napa Valley can provide a diverse introduction to wine varieties and styles. Additionally, local wine regions and lesser-known areas such as Finger Lakes, Niagara, and Texas Hill Country offer unique experiences and approachable wines.

Classic Wine Regions

Starting with classic wine regions can provide a foundational understanding of wine varietals and styles. Bordeaux is known for Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot, while Burgundy offers Pinot Noir and Chardonnay [1:2]. Mosel in Germany is famous for Riesling, and Tuscany is renowned for Sangiovese [1:2]. These regions have well-established wine laws that help guide beginners in understanding what they are purchasing.

Affordable and Diverse Options

Regions like Rioja in Spain and Douro in Portugal provide affordable options without compromising quality [2:2]. Exploring wines from these areas can help beginners understand different flavor profiles and find their preferences. Beaujolais and Chile are also recommended for their cost-effective yet flavorful wines [2:7].

Local Wine Regions

Visiting local wine regions can be a great way to start your wine journey. Many cellar doors offer tastings and staff are often welcoming and patient with newcomers [1:1]. Local wineries can provide insight into regional grape varieties and winemaking practices [2:3].

Exploring Lesser-Known Regions

Beyond the traditional wine regions, there are exciting places worth exploring. The Finger Lakes and Niagara regions offer unique wine experiences with distinct flavors [5:3]. Texas Hill Country and Michigan's wine regions are also emerging as interesting areas for wine exploration [5:5][5:4].

Wine Tasting and Education

Attending wine tastings and educational courses can enhance your understanding of wine. Many wine shops offer tastings and knowledgeable staff can guide you through different selections [3:3]. Books like "Wine Folly" or those by Jancis Robinson can provide valuable insights into grape varieties and wine regions [3:2].

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I would like to start my wine journey!

Posted by SeveralSalt355 · in r/wine · 1 month ago
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I’m young. I’ve tasted some wines, but nothing really serious. I would like to learn more about the subject and, with time, discover different aromas and flavors. How can I start?

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TheGumper29 · 1 month ago

Wine will always feel overwhelming until you start to learn the different regions. Learn about the grapes they use, the climate, the wine laws surrounding. It might feel overwhelming, but you can just learn one at a time.

I recommend starting off with Rioja. Do some light research on Crianza vs Reserva vs Gran Reserva. Decide your price point and go into a wine shop. The store will feel much smaller.

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SeveralSalt355 · OP · 1 month ago

Thanks! So cool!

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TheGumper29 · 1 month ago

Other wine regions with very regimented wine laws that give you some idea of what you are buying are Bordeaux(Cabernet Sauvignon/Merlot), Burgundy(Pinot Noir/Chardonnay), Mosel Germany(Riesling), and Tuscany(Sangiovese)

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TheGumper29 · 1 month ago

As an addendum, deciding what grape varietal you like is like deciding what pizza topping you like. You might like pepperoni, but a pepperoni thin slice, pepperoni deep dish, pepperoni Detroit style, etc are all going to be very different. Grape varieties can vary wildly between different regions. So trying to decide what grape variety you like isn’t a great way to start.

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SeveralSalt355 · OP · 1 month ago

I really liked this illustration. Thank you very much!

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UserJH4202 · 1 month ago

Here’s an unusual approach: Learn about grapes. Once you start learning the different grape varieties you can begin to taste them, finding which ones you like and which ones you don’t like. If you only like red wine then only concentrate on learning the grapes that make red wine. Your beginning price point should be between $10-20. Good Luck.

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BeaGoodGirlDear · 1 month ago

Go to a real wine shop and attend as many tastings as you can to learn about the variety of wines available in your area. Don’t buy wine from Costco, grocery stores, etc so you focus on small, real wineries and not bullshit brands/labels.

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SeveralSalt355 · OP · 1 month ago

Thanks!

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Memorex3669 · 1 month ago

Remember wine is about food, wines taste very different when you have them with food. The right wine will compliment the right food., and vis a versa. Take wine classes, go to the library and take out wine books. Drink, read, and eat.

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SeveralSalt355 · OP · 1 month ago

Thanks!!

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Wine_Spitter · 1 month ago

Check out your local wine region. Cellar door staff are nine times out of ten super welcoming and patient in explaining the basics to people new to wine. 

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SeveralSalt355 · OP · 1 month ago

Yeah, i’ll try this! Thanks!

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What's a good place to get started when getting into quality wine?

Posted by fidemur123 · in r/wine · 3 years ago

I've been drinking whiskey for a couple of years now & have a craving for good wine. I know "good" is subjective but I always enjoy other peoples opinion. It help to broaden my palette. Thanks for the input! 🤙

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Nose_for_wine · 3 years ago

Start with regions that don’t break the bank so that you aren’t let down. Pick up a Cru Beaujolais and a Douro and see which end of the spectrum you prefer and go from there. If you need specific producers I’m happy to help.

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WeissBjn · 3 years ago

A great tip. Add Chile to the list (for reds and whites).

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jamiehanker · 3 years ago

That’s great advice

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navel-encounters · 3 years ago

honestly, I learned to appreciate small batch whisky and wine at the local wineries and distilleries in my state. We have 140 wineries in my state the grow their own grapes and process those...we love to take a few days and drive to each one in an area to sample their goods...

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[deleted] · 3 years ago

I agree, wineries are a great place to learn.

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freecmorgan · 3 years ago

As long as your wineries aren't in the upper Midwest like mine 😜

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bennybarbs21 · 3 years ago

I drink scotch, some bourbon here and there. The odd whiskey as well. I thought I’d like bigger, bolder wines like Cabernet Sauvignon, Bordeaux blends, etc.

I actually really enjoy Pinot Noir, Chardonnay, Riesling, and more medium bodied wines. I drink a cab or something when I want to, but it’s far from my go to.

Long way of saying try several things at a lower price point, and once you kind of hone in on what works, move up. Don’t be afraid of white wine either - tons of great flavor there that some people miss.

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tempelhof_de · 3 years ago

German Riesling (Spatlese, Auslese, Beerenauslese, Trockenbeerenauslese, Eiswein).

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ShinjukuAce · 3 years ago

Try each of the “Big 6” most popular varietals - Sauvignon Blanc, Riesling, and Chardonnay for whites, and Pinot Noir, Merlot, and Cabernet Sauvignon for reds. That will give you a good starting range of the wine world, although of course there are far more varietals and regions out there. Write down what you like and don’t like, and use that as a good starting point for further exploration. Like if you enjoyed the Cabernet Sauvignon a lot you might look at sampling that or similar wines from Bordeaux, Rioja, and Napa.

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Wine for Beginners

Posted by Cdon87420 · in r/wine · 4 years ago

I just turned 21, and I really am interested in wine, but do not know where to start.

I know people that taste wine point out all these complex notes, but of course, I cannot pull such without any training, nor tasting. My question is where do I begin learning about wine, and what is the best (affordable) way to sample/try different wines.

Thank you!

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alcoholinfusedtea · 4 years ago

I am still very much a beginner but this is how I started:

  • looked up a beginners course at the nearest college (all my fellow classmates were also doing it as a hobby after work type of thing so i didn’t feel out of place) I learned the most here in terms of intro to grapes, regions etc
  • buy a book: wine folly or the bible by Jancis - very handy guide
  • wine store - I recently started picking a grape and key regions in the world then a wine from that region. For example Pinot noir - i would get a bottle from France, New Zealand, Oregon, Canada (represent) and compare all - maybe not the best method but it has helped me a lot in terms of notes
  • every time my partner and I open a bottle we say out loud our tasting notes - makes me realize if i didn’t pick up on something
  • join a wine club - after doing the above, you would have enough of a knowledge to appreciate the wines provided

I’m only at this point in my wine education but I have enjoyed every bit of learning so far! Hope this helps!

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winedood · 4 years ago

This is great advice and I think an almost perfect way to learn as you go.

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sdhiman33 · 4 years ago

this sucks with covid because tastings are pretty much not happening but a local wine shop is your best bet. Buy some bottles, talk to the staff and tell them what you like and dont like. Hopefully they have tastings or be willing to pour tastes for you. Outside of that WSET is great and has a range of courses from beginner level 1 to diploma program which basically is a college degree

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barsukio · 4 years ago

Drink!

Seriously though, ask for a recommendation at the (ideally a wine) store on your budget. Everyone starts out somewhere. You'll taste some rotters, you'll find some stars. It's all part of the fun of it. You don't have to do it all in a short space of time though, you've got until now until your final day to enjoy the journey.

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BiomedDood · 4 years ago

Do you have Total Wine in your area? Mine does wine tasting like every week and u can sign up and go there. And it's free.

That being said, Costco has decent wine starting at $5.99 bottle so for $20, u can walk out with 2-3 different variants. If u like sweet wine, get a moscato, then throw in a sauvignon blank (white) and some sorta sparking Rose wine. Then see what u prefer and go from there.

My wine is a red wine drinker and I prefer white.

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Tom_Featherbottom · 4 years ago

Here's a list of styles of wine/appelations to look for that I think can be fun for your journey:

Vinho Verde (white/rosé)

Barbera d'Alba/Barbera d'Asti/Barbera di Montferatto (red)

Gavi (white)

Côtes du Rhône (red/white/rosé)

Chinon (red/white/rosé)

Austrian Grüner Veltliner (white)

Vino Nobile di Montepulciano (red)

Mosel Riesling (white)

Rioja (red/white)

Oregon Pinot Noir (red)

New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc (white)

The ideal, in my opinion, is to find a shop that vibes with you and get recommendations within these categories that fit your budget. There are SO many more categories that are amazing, but many will vary dramatically in quality or are pricey, making them difficult to traverse when you don't know specifically what you're looking for. For those who might object that this list seems to favor old world wines, I just think that these categories have a little more cohesion to give a beginner an idea of what they're all about (much new world wine, though often amazing, is much more heavily dependent on the maker, rather than the appelation). I've also certainly missed some good categories for wine acolytes.

Check out Eric Asimov's How to Love Wine, as well as a wine reference book (my favorite is The World Atlas of Wine by Hugh Johnson and Jancis Robinson) to look up and read about wines that you enjoy.

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petarro · 4 years ago

And Malbec, there is a lot in South America worth drinking.

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petarro · 4 years ago

Great comment. I would add some Alsace region wine.

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Best brand(s) for beginners?

Posted by alexe_277 · in r/wine · 1 year ago

I’m pretty new to wine, and have had enough to know that I’m not really into sweet wines, but that’s about it. I want to try several different kinds, and am looking for good, relatively affordable, brands to get a handful of different kinds, and find out what I like and don’t.

Josh seems super available and has seemingly most kinds of wine. They don’t seem to be outstanding or anything, but a decent cheap option to try a lot of different things.

Cheateau ste Michelle doesn’t have quite as much different kinds but I hear they offer really good value for money.

Oliver and country heritage are the two primary local wineries around here (I live in indiana), they both seem a bit more focused on “sweet” wines though, they have dry stuff as well, but not as much selection as the above brands.

I’m totally open to other brands as well but these are just a few I was eyeing. Not gonna like I find it overwhelming, all the brands, and the local aspect (not being able to find recommended stuff in my area). Are any of the above recommended, or are there any suggestions I should be able to find given my area?

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strohley14 · 1 year ago

As a recent beginner (I’d like to think I’ve moved beyond beginner now haha) I had to stop thinking about wines in terms of “brands.” Start thinking about it in terms of grapes (or blends of grapes) and places where they grow them. There are certain places where certain grapes grow best. Now, that’s not to say you shouldn’t try a wines from regions that you typically don’t think about, but you should try to start with the typical grape/region pairings.

For example, try a Cabernet Sauvignon from California, one from Chile, and a left-bank Bordeaux (Cabernet Sauvignon blended with Merlot and Cabernet Franc). Let’s say you like the one from California and want to try more, then you maybe try one from Napa and one from Sonoma. THEN maybe you can start to look at regions within Napa or even individual producers that have vineyards there.

Thats not to say that producer or brand isn’t important, it’s just not as important when you are trying to figure out what you like in the first place, in my opinion.

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random61920 · 1 year ago

If you're looking to get more serious about wine, 100% you need to learn about grapes and regions. There are just too many producers/styles.

If you're just looking to drink better wines without investing a lot of time, I think identifying a few brands you like is smart. Or, slightly more advanced, reliable importers like Kermit Lynch or Skurnik.

Especially if you're a beginner without a big bankroll or a local shop that does high quality tastings, there's a serious risk that you'll end up thinking you have a preference for one grape or region when actually you just happened to choose some subpar bottles. (Looking at "Anything but Chardonnay" people here!)

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strohley14 · 1 year ago

You make a good point, as I am definitely in my middle phase of “anything but Chardonnay” haha. Chablis is the only one I have liked so far.

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Balue777 · 1 year ago

Find a good wine store in your area. Ask questions. Attend tastings. Explore one area you like thoroughly- go down that rabbit hole. Then try another. In general though, I get a lot of enjoyment of the price and quality of 1) Spain (ie Rioja), 2) South America (ie Argentine Malbec), 3) France (ie Loire Reds and Whites). Some top of my head suggestions.

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Cultural-Rip432 · 1 year ago

This isn’t meant to come across as gatekeeping at all, but I’ve had beginners take it the wrong way.

Why are you drinking wine? E.g. - Are you drinking wine to enjoy with food? Are you drinking to get a buzz? Or are you drinking to feed a curiosity to learn about wine?

Depending on your answer, the recommendations can be wildly different.

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[deleted] · 1 year ago

The best wines are the ones that you like. Wine is a very subjective thing and everyone's palates are different. As far as your initial question, I think you are on the right track. Go to a wine store in the area and ask if they have any "end of bin" specials. These are wines that are running low and will not be restocked. You can find some great deals on wines from different areas, regions and varietals. Take advantage of any wine bars in your area as well. It's like an ice cream shop for grown-ups where you can try lots of wines without committing to bottles. Cheers!

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ultravioletneon · 1 year ago

Skip the brand associations for now. Find a club that gives you maximum variety x control.

Once you try something, index for that. Repeat. Then isolate winemakers / grapes / regions.

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Exciting wine regions?

Posted by Striking-Bison-444 · in r/winemaking · 4 years ago

I’m currently in UC Davis’ winemaking certificate program, which is all online, but I’m looking to move somewhere where I can advance my career in the cellar and/or the vineyard. I have a few harvests under my belt and know I want to be in winemaking as opposed to any other facet of the industry. I’m looking for exciting wine regions in the United States that aren’t in California or Oregon, or any wineries in particular that are worth checking out that showcase some creativity

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Long-Variation9993 · 4 years ago

Finger Lakes, Niagara, Virginia

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chris2855 · 4 years ago

Niagara is a underrated wine region imo

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MichiganCueball · 4 years ago

Wikipedia: Michigan has some neato wine regions thanks to the Great Lakes AND with all that water, we’ll never see a major drought until judgement day.

And numerous cideries & breweries of course.

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IAMTHEUSER · 4 years ago

The whole traverse city area is great, I think old mission peninsula is the best

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PopAShotAllStar · 4 years ago

Texas Hill Country

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lroux315 · 4 years ago

Finger lakes, NY.

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Relevant-Double1006 · 4 years ago

The Columbia gorge in Oregon or Washington, Walla Walla in Washington, or the Snake river area in Idaho.

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For new people to wine is it better to explore wines from different regions to get to know them or to start of with different varietals solely to get to know them?

Posted by mma1227 · in r/wine · 8 months ago

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IAmPandaRock · 8 months ago

Wine is so vast and complicated that you can go with either strategy to get started. If you like wine, you'll keep exploring different varietals and regions eventually. When I started, I focused much more on different varietals and it worked completely fine.

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ThatAndANickel · 8 months ago

If you're expanding your portfolio, I've always recommended taking small steps, it can eventually lead you everywhere. You like California Cabernet? Try that a California Syrah. You like that? Try an Australian Shiraz. You like that? Try a Northern Rhone, which might lead you to Southern Rhone then to a Spanish Granacha and so on.

Sometimes you see more wandering that taking the direct route. And it leaves you free to indulge changing moods, situations and opportunities.

But however you go, happy journey.

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OkLettuce338 · 8 months ago

I think both but when you drink a wine labeled by its region (Bordeaux for example) try to get an understanding of the blend and barrel process. It’s helps with the flavor identification

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AustraliaWineDude · 8 months ago

Both.

Exploring Chardonnay for example, you could try a Chablis from France and compare it to a Chardonnay from Beechworth. Different regions stylistically treat the same grape different, with all the additional influence from climate etc

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[deleted] · 8 months ago

Strongly agree! Don't fall into the trap of thinking that you don't enjoy a specific grape. The same variety can show so many different characters depending on climate, terroir, and winemaking style.

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mma1227 · OP · 8 months ago

Thank you!

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UmIAmNotMrLebowski · 8 months ago

Definitely agree with both, and I think Chardonnay is a great one to start off with if you like white wine. I used to say that I didn’t like Chardonnay but loved Chablis, before I realised Chablis is, in fact, Chardonnay. It’s a fun one to explore because it changes so much based on where it’s grown (generally speaking, warmer climates = rounder, roper flavours) and how it’s treated (oak, no oak, malolactic fermentation, lees, etc.).

But it’s also fun to explore different grapes. Just searching this sub for grapes you know you like should yield some suggestions for other grapes you might like. The Wine Folly book can also be a good guide here - similar wine varietals are grouped together in it.

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Best wine for beginners

Posted by Bill_1983 · in r/wine · 5 years ago

I've never really liked any wine I've tasted, but I thought the same about beer when I was younger, so I figured I'd give wine another try. What wine is good for beginners to try? I'm not talking white, red, etc....I mean, specific bottles that I can find at most liquor stores. Thanks!

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hellisnow666 · 5 years ago

For me how I got into wine was first starting out with sweeter wines. I really like the major wine brands Cupcake for my whites and Apothic for my reds- they are usually moderately priced, decent quality, and I can find them at most retailers. I would buy three bottles and just sample them. Cupcake Riesling (sweet white) Cupcake Chardonnay (dry white) and Apothic Crush Blend (sweet dry red). Whichever you like, just go try out other brands of Rieslings, Chardonnays, etc.

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[deleted] · 5 years ago

Had someone suggested those to me when I started with wine, I would have developed an interest in wine.

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Friendly advice: “sweet dry red” is a contradiction. Sweet is the opposite of dry. The word you may have meant is ‘tannic’ which gives a sensation of dryness on the palate.

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hellisnow666 · 5 years ago

Sure you sound way more wine educated than myself so let’s go with that!

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DumbledoresBarmy · 5 years ago

I usually recommend Dr. L (Loosen) Riesling for beginners. It’s cheap and under $10, which is a barrier for many people. In general, German Riesling tends to be among the best value wines (well made, ageable) and among the most delicious. John Jos. (JJ) Prüm is one of the very best producers and widely available if you’re willing to pay a bit more.

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Jay_Normous · 5 years ago

I started with the really velvety Oregon and California pinot noirs like Elouan, Argyle, Meiomi, etc. These are made to be mass produced and mass consumed and are great crowd pleasers if you're just getting started or don't care to think too hard about your wine. You should be able to find one of these in just about any grocery store or liquor store in the US

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Bill_1983 · OP · 5 years ago

Thanks! I didnt know they made wine in oregon....I'll definitely put it on my list!

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Jay_Normous · 5 years ago

There's actually at least one winery in every one of the 50 states! That's not to say that all of them are making what most people serious about wine would consider high quality, but you can find good wine most anywhere. In the US the main regions you hear about most producing good quality wine are California (by a giant margin), Washington and Oregon. But New York produces very good Riesling around the Finger Lakes region and I think I've heard about interesting things coming out of Virginia. The more you start learning about wine, the more you start to figure out that there's really no end to how much there is to learn if you want to. Wine Folly is one of my favorite sites for learning that does a great job of presenting information in an easily digestible way. But you don't necessarily have to "study" wine either! You can start by just learning the basics of how to taste wine in a thoughtful manner and just pay attention when you are drinking wine. Do you like this wine? If so why do you think that is? Make a note of that wine (Pinot Noir from Oregon) and try another of that style from that region the next time you're at a restaurant or the liquor store. Maybe you like that too, maybe not.

I think the main thing I'm trying to say is if you want to develop an interest in wine, just be more present while you're drinking it and make mental (or written) notes.

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Smarkie · 5 years ago

From Wine Searcher: Vineyards in California's Central Coast
©Cupcake Vineyards

Cupcake Vineyards is a wine brand based out of California's Central Coast that produces value-priced wines from established wine regions around the world. The wines are produced and marketed for the American palate. Cupcake was first established in 2008 and is owned by The Wine Group.

This for me is the epitome of corporate grocery store wine. I would prefer to refer newbies to independent small growers who make honest, non-manipulated wine. I'm afraid the wine business has gone the way of the food/grocery store business- owned by a small group of mega corporations. Try googling Constellation Brands to see how many "brands" they own, representing hundreds of millions of cases. Their main concern is distribution channels, which includes supermarket chains, and large retailers. This is why Constellation bought the Robert Mondavi company. Their target was Woodbridge, mainly because it was already in supermarkets, opening up distribution for their other brands. Rant over.

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hellisnow666 · 5 years ago

I also recommend if you live near a Trader Joe’s checking out their wine selection- their $4 wine bottles are typically from local growers and have never disappointed me.

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IAmPandaRock · 5 years ago

German Riesling. Start with a trocken (dry/not sweet) or Kabinet (typically mildly sweet, but balanced with acid) and go from there.

Edit: you can get some great German Rieslings for about $22. If that's not quite in your budget yet, try Kung Fu Girl Riesling (from the US). Great value and very good wine that's off-dry (in between trocken and kabinett).

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Smarkie · 5 years ago

Find a bottle of JJ Prum Reisling Spatlese. Its a German wine. You'll like it.

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worldvampire_sowhat · OP · 3 years ago

After spending 3 months focused on Bordeaux, I'm feeling confident to learn about Burgundy.

What are good beginners burgundies to start with?

I was recommended this 2019 Dider Fornerol and it was wonderful. Earthy and dark. Well balanced and thick despite being medium bodied. Really contrasts with California Pinot! Excited for more.

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MartinB1998 · 3 years ago

To start out, I would look at buying several wines from a reputable négociant (Faiveley, Drouhin, Jadot, Bouchard, Louis Latour, etc.), preferable from the same year. That way you can get a grasp on the differences between village styles and quality levels.

Wines from these producers should be readily available worldwide, and often have a good price-quality level. When buying from less-known producers, there is always a chance that you pay a high price for a disappointing bottle.

One fun flight might be a bourgogne regional AOC (entry level), a cote de nuits village or cote d'or AOC (bit better than entry level), and then a cote d'or village AOC (i.e. Chambolle-Musigny, or Gevrey-Chambertin).

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worldvampire_sowhat · OP · 3 years ago

Thank you! Will start with this as a reference.

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somedudespect · 3 years ago

Currently in the Bordeaux phase (a month in, halfway through “Inside Bordeaux” by Jane Anson, and planning my 3 day Bordeaux trip in October) but replying to this to follow any comments as I believe Burgundy will be my next focus, also. 🙏🏼

Good luck!

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worldvampire_sowhat · OP · 3 years ago

I have the book! I got through many of the regions but still feel like it's more reference than a straight read. Excited for your trip!

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bularry · 3 years ago

Good place to start. I suggest you Get better stemware.

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worldvampire_sowhat · OP · 3 years ago

Ha! I support this but I am at a restaurant. The food is amazing though so I think it's worth it!

I do heartily agree that stemware matters a lot.

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Polymer714 · 3 years ago

My honest suggestion? Don't get into Burgundy...

But if you are set on getting into it....Forgetting about specific wines for a minute..I'd start with just understanding how Burgundy is setup as it is different than everywhere else. This will help avoid confusion when you're looking at the wines. As far as where to start wine wise.. Look for better producers Bourgogne as a start to producer style/quality and then branch out into other producers bourgogne, especially those that are in the same style you are starting to like. Look for mid level producers village wines to understand the differences in the villages. You'll end up gravitating almost exclusively to producers if you get into burgundy...which is a bit ironic given how hyper terroir focused burgundy is..

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Yellow_Curry · 3 years ago

I have really enjoyed Harmand-Geoffroy, they make a reasonably priced Bourgogne that always over delivers.

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WeissBjn · 3 years ago

First step, save some serious cash! It gets expensive real fast, especially right now. In all seriousness, the village wines are a great start to get a sense of how terroir influences these wines. Kermit Lynch imports some nice affordable bottles that are good quality and QPR (for burgundy… QPR ratios are adjusted for this region). Don’t forget to dive into the Chardonnay side too - my personal favorite wines coming out of the region.

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worldvampire_sowhat · OP · 3 years ago

Slowly but surely, then! Which is why I'd like to start somewhere reasonable. That's a second upvote for Kermit Lynch so that's definitely on my priority list. THANKS!

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Yellow_Curry · 3 years ago

Yea looking back at my bottle prices I would have to agree. At $45 a bottle something like 1/2 the price would be better. But Burgundy in general prices have come unhinged from reality.

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Best books for beginners?

Posted by throw_aw_ay3335 · in r/wine · 5 months ago

I was just offered a side gig as a tasting room server at a winery. I know wines I like and what I don’t like, but I want to learn more to be good at this job. Is there any reading material you would recommend to learn the basics? Thank you so much!

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ImmediateFault7 · 5 months ago

Depends what you want to focus on. Take WSET for comprehensive global wines/regions/varietals. Wine bible is a great resource. Vino italiano to focus on all 20 Italian regions and their wines. 

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throw_aw_ay3335 · OP · 5 months ago

Thank you so much!

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Rustyray84 · 4 months ago

World Atlas of Wine by Jancis Robinson & Hugh Jonson

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ImmediateFault7 · 4 months ago

This esp if you need/want maps to help learn !

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Mekktron · 4 months ago

Wine folly

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electro_report · 4 months ago

Windows on the world, wine folly, wine Bible.

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agmanning · 4 months ago

Wine folly with all its infographics looks like a great way to get a handle on things with minimal actual reading. Maybe it just appeals to how I learn but I think it would be great for beginners.

Also, depending on where this winery is, a book on that region.

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What’s the best wine region no one talks about?

Posted by cowcrossingspace · in r/wine · 1 month ago

Travelers/winemakers, I'm curious about hidden gems!

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samy_ret · 1 month ago

Tasmania ! I know Aussie wine is well known, but it's usually focused on the SA region. Tasmanian wine is quite fab. Great cool climate. Have had some particularly excellent Pinot Noir there.

Kakheti, Georgia is a winner. I love the Saperavi grape. And the Qveri style of wine making. You get the amber wines as well. So unusual but so drinkable.

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BuffaloRedshark · 1 month ago

Glad to see someone mention Georgia. Possibly the oldest wine culture in the world.

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texag_2020 · 1 month ago

South America, specifically Chile doesn’t get nearly enough love. There are some really great QPR reds coming from the higher quality producers there.

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pouks · 1 month ago

Poster asks for a “region” that “no-one talks about” and you pick an entire continent followed by a country that anyone on this sub will know makes great wine. Yawn.

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PugsandTacos · 1 month ago

I think every major producer has vineyards in Chile. Chile is very well known.

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rnjbond · 1 month ago

Croatia! Just came back from tastings there and loved it! 

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DnBrendan · 1 month ago

I love Croatian wine. If I recall, 98% of the wine is consumed in country so that contributes to the lack of talk.

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CCLF · 1 month ago

Check out the Maule Valley for probably some of the best value Cab Sav in the world.

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TheGatorNation · 1 month ago

Sssssh. Let’s agree to keep Slovenia a secret. Two of my favorites - Movia Veliko Rdece and Jakoncic 'Carolina Noir' from the Goriska Brda region.

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MaineMan1234 · 1 month ago

Check out Pedro Parra in the Itata Valley. He’s a renowned vineyard geologist who returned home to Chile after working with world class wineries in Europe and is making is own wine.

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texag_2020 · 1 month ago

I’ll second the suggestion for Maipo and Colchagua, with the addition of Casablanca valley.

I would consider Carménère the “national” grape variety of Chile. There’s a backstory there, but the short version is that it is an old Bordeaux variety. Think dark fruit but with a much more pronounced green bell pepper note than Cabernet. Obliqua Apalta Vinyard Carménère is my favorite I’ve tried, but you can bet that anything ~$25 plus is going to be of good quality. Definitely expect a new world style heavy fruit profile, but the bell pepper is very unique.

Other big reds will be good too. Villard (particular their Tanagra bottling) and Polkura both have great Syrah. If you can find it, Ventisquero Enclave Cabernet Sauvignon drinks like a very high quality Napa Cab for about $80.

Maurizio Garibaldi and Antiyal are other producers that feature a variety of different grapes in the $25-50 range that also punch above their weight class.

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Late_Hearing_6057 · 1 month ago

Slovenia has Great wine.

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best wine regions to explore for beginners

Key Considerations for Exploring Wine Regions:

  1. Accessibility: Choose regions that are easy to reach and have a variety of wineries close together, making it convenient for beginners to explore.

  2. Variety of Wines: Look for regions known for a range of wine styles, allowing you to taste and learn about different varietals.

  3. Wine Education Opportunities: Regions that offer tours, tastings, and educational experiences can enhance your understanding of wine.

  4. Scenic Beauty: Consider regions with beautiful landscapes, as the experience of wine tasting is often enhanced by the surroundings.

  5. Local Cuisine: Regions that pair well with local food can provide a more holistic experience, as food and wine often complement each other.

Top Recommendations:

  1. Napa Valley, California, USA:

    • Known for its Cabernet Sauvignon and Chardonnay.
    • Offers numerous wineries with tours and tastings.
    • Beautiful scenery and excellent dining options.
  2. Sonoma County, California, USA:

    • Less commercial than Napa but equally diverse in wine styles.
    • Great for beginners with a friendly atmosphere and many small wineries.
  3. Bordeaux, France:

    • Famous for its red blends, particularly Merlot and Cabernet Sauvignon.
    • Offers educational tours and a rich history of winemaking.
  4. Tuscany, Italy:

    • Renowned for Chianti and Sangiovese wines.
    • Stunning landscapes, charming villages, and delicious Italian cuisine.
  5. Mendoza, Argentina:

    • Known for Malbec and a growing variety of wines.
    • Offers beautiful vineyard views and a relaxed atmosphere.

Recommendation: Start with Napa Valley or Sonoma County if you're in the U.S., as they provide a wealth of beginner-friendly resources and experiences. If you're looking for an international adventure, Tuscany offers a wonderful blend of wine, culture, and food.

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