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History of EPIC: The Musical

Concept and Development

EPIC: The Musical is a concept album inspired by Homer's "The Odyssey," created by Jorge Rivera-Herrans. It has not yet been staged as a traditional musical, but it exists as a series of songs released in parts, known as sagas [4:2]. The project began as a passion endeavor with the intention of eventually bringing it to stage or film [4:3]. This approach is similar to other musicals that started as concept albums, such as "Jesus Christ Superstar" and "Evita" [4:1].

Structure and Release

The musical is structured into acts and sagas, mirroring ancient Greek plays. Act 1 consists of five sagas: The Troy Saga, Cyclops Saga, Ocean Saga, Circe Saga, and Underworld Saga, while Act 2 includes four more sagas: The Thunder Saga, Wisdom Saga, Vengeance Saga, and Ithaca Saga [5:4]. Each saga comprises several songs, contributing to a total runtime of over two hours for both acts [5:4]. The music is available on platforms like Spotify, and snippets have been performed online [5:1].

Challenges and Legal Issues

Jorge Rivera-Herrans faced legal challenges regarding the rights to EPIC, which impacted the release schedule and led him to start his own production company [3:2]. Despite these hurdles, he continues to develop and release new content, with support from fans who appreciate his dedication to the project [3:3].

Potential for Stage Adaptation

There is significant interest in adapting EPIC for the stage, with discussions around how to portray mythical creatures and gods using modern special effects and set design [1:1][1:2]. Fans are eager to see a full theatrical production, although some express concern about different actors taking on roles originally voiced by the album's vocalists [1:3].

Future Prospects

While there is no confirmed date for a live stage production, the ongoing release of music suggests that EPIC may eventually be adapted into a full musical [5:6]. Fans continue to anticipate future developments and enjoy the music as it becomes available [5:9].

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Stage adaptation

Posted by Ashamed_Share_8287 · in r/Epicthemusical · 2 months ago
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Hello everyone, my name is Ben! A few days ago my cousin showed me epic of the first time and I can’t get over it! As a musical theatre nerd it’s everything I’ve wanted is in it! So I have one question do you think it should become a stage musical or not and if so why! I’ve been hearing rumors that work on a stage musical is being worked on at the moment but I’m not sure if any of that is actually true but i thought I’d come here and ask Thank you so much to everyone in this sub and all of the creators that have worked on this incredible project!

From -Ben

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FrankyFay · 2 months ago

I'd LOVE to see it - I actually find myself planning and imagining stage adaptations on the go for the songs, while I'm listening to them.

I also think it would be challenging to make the Gods & Monsters feel as intimidating in presence, as they seem in some animatics, but I know that there are a lot of really talented set- and costume designers, as well as sfx-specialist out there who could bring this to life!

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Ashamed_Share_8287 · OP · 2 months ago

OOO WHAT HAVE YOU PLANNED?

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Internal_Beyond_8025 · 2 months ago

As a fellow theatre nerd, I would love to see it on stage. It’s a fully sung through musical and I think that’s bloody brilliant. My only drawback for it is seeing anyone but the original vocalists in their roles is going to be such a mind-boggle for me 😩

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Ashamed_Share_8287 · OP · 2 months ago

I agree!

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FrontAdept6811 · 2 months ago

I would love to see it and would definitely act in it if given the chance 

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Ashamed_Share_8287 · OP · 2 months ago

AGREED

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caliko_clouds · 2 months ago

I’d love to see it on stage too. I have a few people in my life I want to introduce Epic to but they’re the type to consider ‘real’ musicals only ones that are one stage (they’re wrong but eh).

I think the main hurdle might be portraying the larger than life monsters (Polyphemus, Circe’s chimera, Scylla, Charybdis) but special effects and animatronics/puppets are so advanced nowadays I’m sure it could work out well.

I know we’d all get used to it like the Hamilton fandom eventually did, but hearing different actors playing the roles in a theatre version would be jarring for a while given that we’re so used to the cast recording

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Ashamed_Share_8287 · OP · 2 months ago

Yes I totally agree!

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Can we have a backronym for EPIC: The Musical?

Posted by chashek · in r/Epicthemusical · 2 months ago

Saw the other post about having an abbreviation for Epic and people were saying the name is short enough already, which got me thinking: what if we made the name LONGER? So how would you backronym EPIC to be an abbreviation of a longer title?

The best I've got is, "Enduring Poseidon's Ire: Chronicles" 🤷

Bonus points if you can work all the letters of "the Musical" into the backronym (either in addition to the EPIC part, or by itself, to be appended to some else's idea for the EPIC part)

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NoirGarde · 2 months ago

Enigmatic Passage of the Ithacan Crown: a tale of returning home in the form of a Rock Opera

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chashek · OP · 2 months ago

I really like the use of, "Ithacan Crown" here

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Level_Quantity7737 · 2 months ago

Man Upsets Sea In Concerted Ancient Literature 👀

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StrawberryWimp · 2 months ago

Even Poseidon Is Cranky: The Hero Embarks, Meeting Unfriendly Seas, Impish Creatures, And Lotus-eaters

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potato_guy134 · 2 months ago

lol the best one so far i love this so much

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FormerDeerlyBeloved · 2 months ago

Whoa, this one has a really Lemony Snicket vibe

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StrawberryWimp · 2 months ago

Omg you're right

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chashek · OP · 2 months ago

Definitely love the vibe of this one!

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Useful_Okra_2284 · 2 months ago

Twenty Years: An Extensive Chronicle of a Man Fighting Monsters to Return Home

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TH3_R1V3R_0F_STYX · 2 months ago

Odysseus embarks on a ten-year journey to return home to Ithaca after the Trojan War: The Musical

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Posted by ___slail33 · in r/Epicthemusical · 1 year ago
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My little sister texted me this a few mins ago. I haven’t heard anything about new/improved songs or that Jay didn’t have the rights to EPIC. My sister and her friends keep up to date with him/EPIC more than I am able to, so maybe I just missed it? Thanks!

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EyesOnTheStars123 · 1 year ago

This Vid

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Timbits06 · 1 year ago

Honestly, this makes sense because I noticed that the fonts on the covers changed after the Cyclops saga, and it explains why there was such a gap between Cyclops and Ocean.

I also stumbled upon this a while back and didn't know what to do with it. Apparently, Blair Russell sued Jorge back in November, which is why I thought it made sense when Jorge started his own production company.

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___slail33 · OP · 1 year ago

Whoaaaa I didn’t know he got sued???? That’s crazy!!

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Kay-Chelle · 1 year ago

So I sorta skimmed it, but I really don't speak leagaleize, so I don't really understand. Why did the sue Jorge in the first place?

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___slail33 · OP · 1 year ago

Thank you! I’m on vacation visiting some family out in the middle of NOWHERE and my phone service is terrible. Hopefully it’ll load soon and I’ll be able to be all caught up :)

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DND_Smurf · 1 year ago

Where's the livestream taking place?? Wanna defo watch it this time

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Princess_Carolyn_II · 1 year ago

Woah, that’s so messed up! I’m happy that everyone rallied behind Jay and he managed to make the best out of a shitty situation. Hopefully it’ll be smoother sailing now that he has his own production company!

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___slail33 · OP · 1 year ago

I hope so for him as well! I can’t imagine working on something as long as he has for it to be taken for granted like that :(

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Princess_Carolyn_II · 1 year ago

Right??? He’s clearly put so much love and time into Epic, so it’s heartbreaking that he’s not even getting any money from the first 2 sagas. I can’t believe that someone who do that to him 😞

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Internal_Camel_5734 · 1 year ago

Sucks the company did that, but redone Troy and Cyclops sagas is SO exciting

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[deleted] · 1 year ago

The Troy Saga (Jay’s Version) 😆

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___slail33 · OP · 1 year ago

Petition to have (Jay’s Version) as a flair!! 😂🩷

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What is Epic?

Posted by PersonallyImHere · in r/musicals · 6 months ago

Hello all! I am not super into musicals, but every now and again I will listen to a song so good I can't help but follow up and watch the musical.

EPIC: The Musical has amazing songs, but every time I look for it all I get are animated music videos, is that all that the musical is? Is there a movie in the making?

Sorry for the dumb question but Im not knowledgeable when it comes to musicals, thanks anyways!

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butterflyvision · 6 months ago

It’s a musical inspired by The Odyssey.

There hasn’t been any staging of it, just a few concept albums broken down into “parts”. There are also animatics and a dedicated fanbase!

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LurkerByNatureGT · 6 months ago

It’s not a musical. It’s a concept album with some animatics and a lot of online fans. 

At some point it may end up a stage or film musical. It’s mostly one guy’s passion project, and he does seem to have a lot of passion for it. 

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Tonloc53 · 6 months ago

My teenagers love Epic, they wait for every new drop that comes out. Brilliant idea for him to use the segmented drops as well.

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aussie_teacher_ · 6 months ago

It's all out now! It finished at Christmas. It was very fun while it was being released though.

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MellonPhotos · 6 months ago

The other comment answers your question. But, just for context, it's not unheard of for musicals to start as concept albums. For instance, Jesus Christ Superstar and Evita both started that way. The music from the shows was released before they were ever on stage, partially to create interest and hype so that an actual production would be successful. Lin-Manuel Miranda also recently released Warriors as a concept album, and plans to bring it to stage later. Hamilton also began as an idea for an album, although that one was never released before the show was produced.

It's difficult to say what will happen with Epic or what the creator's goals even are. But there is a precedent for shows being developed this way.

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MelodyMaster5656 · 6 months ago

Hadestown started as one as well.

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dobbydisneyfan · 6 months ago

So did Here Lies Love

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richnessoflife2319 · 6 months ago

Lin released Warriors as in.... Warrior Cats concept album?

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nerd-thebird · 6 months ago

I'd watch that tbh lol

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MellonPhotos · 6 months ago

Haha as in an adaptation of the 1965 novel/1979 film The Warriors.

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Warm_Power1997 · 6 months ago

This is helpful, as I’m super into Hadestown and people keep recommending this to me but I could never figure out what it is!

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Where’s the actual musical?

Posted by Opal_is_awesome · in r/Epicthemusical · 2 years ago

I like listening to the soundtrack on Spotify, but other than a few tiny yt vids and lyric pages I can’t find much about this online. Has it, idk, not come out yet and they’ve only released the soundtrack or something?

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BetterBPD13 · 2 years ago

I believe the musical is five acts, and only the first has been released.

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BetterBPD13 · 2 years ago

Five acts to mirror the 5 acts of an ancient greek play, which is so cool

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Opal_is_awesome · OP · 2 years ago

Oh wow that is really cool. Where can I find the first act? Or did you mean just the music (like pt 1 Troy, pt 2 Cyclops)

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KPookz · 2 years ago

There’s only two acts, each one comprised of twenty songs. The acts are then broken up into “sagas” (inspired by the anime, Dragon Ball Z).

  • Act 1 contains five sagas (The Troy Saga (songs 1-5), Cyclops Saga (songs 6-9), Ocean Saga (songs 10-13), Circe Saga (songs 14-17) and Underworld Saga (songs 18-20)) with a total runtime of 1 hour and 9 minutes.

  • Act 2 contains four sagas (The Thunder Saga (songs 21-25), Wisdom Saga (songs 26-30), Vengeance Saga (songs 31-35) and Ithaca Saga (songs 36-40)) with a total runtime of 1 hour and 7 minutes.

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Guilty-Spriggan · 1 year ago

Ik I'm a year late but only act one has five sagas, there are nine sagas total.

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Flaky-Rip4058 · 6 months ago

Where is this musical? My daughter loves it and I love that she loves it and I want to go to see it with her.

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Slow_Excitement_2524 · 6 months ago

There's no actual musical -- right now it's just animatics. Here's the one I watched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXeYVV1zcUc&list=PLNQpggnSpD4oj3PCsZTzbzLFjHmOxTRHr

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logicalslimshady · 2 years ago

So the actual musical is still being made, only a part of it is out on the music platforms, (The Troy Saga) and right now we are waiting on the next part (The Cyclops Saga) they have a lot of videos of them performing snippets online and I believe someone made a video compiling all of those on yt. However, the full musical isn’t finished nor has it been performed on stage yet, but in due time it’ll be all here and amazing ! Just stay tuned for now and enjoy the music out!

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ruw-ng · 2 years ago

Is there an estimated date for the musical to be released?

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0shadowstories · 2 years ago

I'd assume the earliest would be 2025 since this year will prob be focused on the release of the music itself (there's still 7 sagas to go so even if they continue 1 per month the last one won't be out till August) and it'll take a good while to put together a full fledged live production

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StandardCaterpillar9 · 2 years ago

Woah, seriously? It’s an actual musical?? I just thought it was a concept album….

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Popular_Manner_5578 · 7 months ago

The Iliad Homer and The Odyssey Homer are the two parts i think

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Someone told me that EPIC will never become a musical.. What should I do?

Posted by Cookie-fighter101 · in r/Epicthemusical · 5 months ago
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MysticalSword270 · 5 months ago

So they don't believe EPIC will become a musical? Well, you can still convince them. There are other ways of persuasion, you know.

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JoojooAbu · 5 months ago

it already is a musical imo
just not professionally done.

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seafoamsomething · 5 months ago

Isn't a musical an actual play or movie with mostly music?

At this point it's just an album

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Visual-Connection-18 · 5 months ago

A musical is a story where the music pushes the plot forward or in many cases, is the plot. So from my understanding it doesn't need visuals to be considered a musical, therefore EPIC is one since it follows the criteria. Being a story where the music moves the story along

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Cypress983 · 5 months ago

Do you think epic isn't a musical?

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Cypress983 · 5 months ago

Bruh it's literally called EPIC: The Musical. The. Musical. It's a musical and if you say otherwise, you'll disappear like the suitors and all that'll be left is red on the walls

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quuerdude · 5 months ago

Jorge has said he doesn’t want a stage production

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scunt_ · 5 months ago

the guy probably meant to say a stage production. maybe in the distant future we'll have one, but damn there's too many things to account for it

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ArmakanAmunRa · 5 months ago

Hand them a torch, Scylla(or Odysseus) will do the rest

Though she may be right if with musical she refers to stage musical wich may be difficult to pull out even with animatronics and light effects, though Jay once talked about a possible stage production but that's it

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Dissipated_Shadow · 5 months ago

I would love to see a live performance of it but it would be an extremely difficult and expensive production. The role of Odysseus will be grueling just from how many songs he has in a row without breaks. Also with how many locations there are building that many sets will be costly. They could cut costs by using a minimalist set or even a digital set for the background.

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bartonar · 5 months ago

Plus how could they practically do Polyphemus without it looking cheesy.

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Daunting_Demeter · 5 months ago

That and Mr. Pancake.

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recovering theater kid argues why epic could be a stage musical

Posted by GrumpyMowse · in r/Epicthemusical · 4 months ago

Ok, so I've noticed this musical has managed to attract attention from people who have a background in theater, but also a lot of people who don't. I'm glad so many different people are able to enjoy Epic; but when the topic of it becoming a stage play comes up it's really easy to tell how many of yall aren't familiar with theater at all, or just aren't as musical-pilled enough to understand (which is fair, I need therapy but instead I watch Ride the Cyclone slime tutorials).

So, I'm going to break down some reasons I've heard about why Epic can't be a stage musical and try my best to prove them wrong.

Monsters/magical elements--the most common reasons I see are that there are too many huge magical and monster aspects of Epic to adapt well onto a stage. This includes the cyclops, Scylla, the god fights/songs. I'm here to say, this can and has been done. See shows like Little Shop Of Horrors, Harry Potter and The Cursed Child, and Matilda for examples of what you can do with a little puppeteering (pun intended) and a dedicated stage crew.

Vocal effects--there's a lot of layering and special effects in some of Epic's songs, and it is mildly difficult to do this in a stage musical, but again it has been done. Ride The Cylcone's "This Song Is Awesome" puts an autotune effect on the singer's mic. For Scylla's layering specifically, it could be accomplished by either having multiple singers (which would be a bit of a hassle) or having the sound sources coming from multiple places throughout the theater with speakers. I saw someone say during Scylla's song it would be cool to have parts of the monster be in with the audience to make Scylla feel gigantic, so that could play along with the sound design.

Difficult to sing through--yes, actors for characters like Odysseus are going to be tired after singing and acting for almost two hours straight. There are some break songs/one saga where they would barely be singing, but I totally get this concern. This is why anyone who plays Odysseus has to be carefully chosen and have the ability to sing for two hours; potentially multiple shows a week, too. This musical definitely requires a lot more from singers/actors, but we already have such a talented cast that laid the path so I believe this problem is possible to solve.

Censorship--I saw someone say that they were worried about Epic getting heavily censored if it was adapted to a broadway show. This one came off as really weird to me because have you ever seen a musical before? There are so many that handle such dark topics and violent scenes (Chicago, Ride The Cyclone, Les Miserables, Hamilton, The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals, Matilda, Sweeney Todd, Evita, Six, and so many more), and while they were probably rewritten to be palatable to an extent, they still maintain their themes and effectiveness really well. The only song I could see getting censored to the point of no recognition is Hold Them Down--in which case there are a lot of ways to get the point across without getting as explicit. It's also important to remember that broadway isn't like yt animatics; there isn't a trigger warning at the start of every song. The only warnings I've ever seen said out loud in a theater were for epilepsy. Not everyone is going to heavily research the musical at their local theater to make sure they won't get triggered by a song I'm sure no one who's heard Epic was expecting to begin with.

Actors--this reason also struck me as weird. I saw a few people saying there wouldn't be enough actors for Epic to become a stage play, and I'm guessing those who said this are more casual fans. I believe most of the cast are or were at some point actors for musical theater. Jorge and Tayla are the only ones I know this is 100% true for. And even if most of the original cast didn't know what to do on a stage, auditions are possible. There are so many talented singers out there who are capable of playing these roles.

My point is, Epic can become a stage play; but it absolutely cannot be a half assed cash grab. To make this musical work on a stage there needs to be an extremely dedicated group of performers and technicians behind it. Epic was clearly made with so much love and care, so I don't see it as much of a stretch to put that same love towards a stage play if that's what Jorge wants.

The only real problem would be funding, a show like this won't be cheap.

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TomorrowAgitated4906 · 4 months ago

My problem with Broadway is that they pretty greedy and safe-playing. Like, they take aaaaages to properly revive the most daring musicals like Sweeney Todd (though the 2023 revival was amazing) and they also too pulled by more 'conventional' musicals they can send on tour (like DEH versus Natasha, Pierre and the Great Comet).

The West End is another issue, though, I think Jorge would be lucky with them.

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AffableKyubey · 4 months ago

My only real concern is Odysseus being too demanding a part to do over and over again while on tour. The vocals he does would really wear on a voice after a while. I love the solution proposed of giving him a new actor after 'Monster' to help reinforce the themes of the show. I think splitting the part in half works well thematically and helps ease the burden of being central to every song from start to finish outside of the Wisdom Saga and parts of the Ithaca Saga.

Everything else I've had no reservations about for the reasons you listed.

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Obvious_Way_1355 · 4 months ago

No I think a new actor would just be too confusing at first and kinda give off a like “what” feeling. Like keep in mind the first song after monster is “Suffering” and the audience is just going to be thinking “what happened to Odysseus? Why is a random crew member being captain?” This would also happen after a 15-30 min intermission where the audience forgets some details. It also kinda undermines the last song—“Don’t tell me you’re not the same person” he literally is. Jorge wanted the audience to leave making their own decision on whether Odysseus is still the same man or not (is the music correct or is Penelope) and if it’s another actor i think that would reinforce the “has changed” too much. I think it might also make that line fall flat bc well. The actors literally changed to reinforce that he’s not the same person

Here’s what my professor said: you want to look at the first image and the last image bc that is what sticks out to the audience.

If the first image is of a warrior mournfully dropping a baby off a roof in order to get home to his wife, and the last image is a different man with that wife who’s only committed abominable acts with no emotion and she’s like “you’re the same person as the first image”, what kinda feeling does that give when the audience walks away from it?

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AffableKyubey · 4 months ago

I was thinking for the last song he could be replaced with the first actor again when Penelope proves to him--and us--that he's still fundamentally the same person at heart, despite all the terrible things he's done. That makes it clearer that the original Odysseus is still there, still exists, reinforcing the story thematically, but also muddies the waters as to whether that Odysseus will return to Penelope or if The Monster's claim that he's too fargone for Athena's world will hold true. I

I also think the changeover would happen in 'Monster', not in 'Suffering', specifically when Odysseus claims he will become the monster. That way we see the symbolism of it happening. Ideally, both these changes would be arranged such that the blocking makes it feel organic when these two faces of Odysseus appear on set. Maybe have him examine the second actor in a mirror during Just A Man or something. I agree with all of your concerns, basically, but I think there are ways to address them and implement this conceit while maintaining the story's thematic and narrative integrity organically

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Routine_Log8315 · 4 months ago

A new actor after monster would be weird, but a new actor after the 7 year time skip could be done

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AffableKyubey · 4 months ago

That could work too. Him being so much older.

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That_Shy_Girl-13 · 4 months ago

I can only dream of it being a stage musical. All I want is audience participation. Let the crowd sing with the chorus of the crew!

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acebender · 4 months ago

Wholeheartedly agree! I remember watching Les Mis in a theater, and the special effects they did to show Javert jumping off the bridge blew my mind. I have no doubts that with some ingenuity they can manage to do monsters, giants and gods.

Also people worried about not being enough actors baffle me. Truly.

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Routine_Log8315 · 4 months ago

I think it would be way more likely to be amazing while also feasibly done as an animated show or movie than as a stage play… it would end up way cheaper while still being high quality (a stage play of comparable quality would be way more expensive). I also think it would be much more accessible… seeing that Epic found it’s following through social media it would be really sad if they only did a broadway musical because all us international fans (and any low income fans) would struggle to see it, while a show or movie is easily accessible to all.

However, if a stage play was made with the actual budget needed (nothing less than a broadway budget) I know I’d be willing to travel for it 😆

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EPIC: The Musical

Posted by xXOrchid-BloomXx · in r/musicals · 1 year ago

Hello musical fans! I have recently been obsessed with Greek mythology and I had stumbled across EPIC: The Musical. I know it is not an official Broadway production, so I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find videos or clips of it? I know there are suppose to be nine parts and only six have been released, however I am quite impaitent. Please let me know!

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trblinc · 1 year ago

EPIC only exists in audio form, it's a concept album (albums?). It's also not done yet. So, what exists on Spotify is all that there is. The creator, Jay Herrans, is pretty active on Instagram and often talks about the process of making it. He also sometimes posts animations that folks have made to go along with the songs

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StaringAtStarshine · 1 year ago

Jay has also talked extensively about what he hopes for future productions to look/feel like. And while not every song has been released in full, you can find progress snippets of future songs all over his socials.

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trblinc · 1 year ago

True! I suppose it would have been more accurate to say that it only exists in audio form for now. He clearly has big dreams for where it will go once all the music has been released, so maybe someday we'll be able to watch it in some visual form!

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ThatCatSage · 1 year ago

As others have said, mostly just in audio form on Spotify and clips on Jorge’s TikTok account as he makes the songs, but his account also has some short animatics.

There’s also a few singers who have filmed themselves singing but nothing more official than that.

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random_reddit08 · 1 year ago

It’s quite a few animated clips about it. If u search for it i think it’s quite easy to see them

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xXOrchid-BloomXx · OP · 1 year ago

Alright thank you! (Love your flair btw)

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random_reddit08 · 1 year ago

Yours too, so real

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MagnusKraken · 1 year ago

Thunder saga dropped the 4th!!

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r/Epicthemusical • [9]

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I love Epic but I miss what made it feel special

Posted by Top_Philosopher5090 · in r/Epicthemusical · 2 months ago

Last night, I was talking with some friends about Epic, the fandom, and how we see the future of Epic, and it hit me just how much it’s changed over the past couple of years. I want to say up front that I’m genuinely happy for Jorge and everything Epic has accomplished. It’s amazing to see how far it’s come—from a guy straight out of college posting demos on TikTok to a full-blown musical production with global reach. Jorge is wildly talented, and he absolutely deserves the success. But the conversation made me realize that, even though I still love Epic, I’ve been feeling a little bit of loss lately. Something about it just doesn’t feel the same anymore.

When Epic first started, there was this spark that’s hard to describe unless you were there for it. It didn’t feel like a traditional musical launch. It wasn’t packaged by a company. It didn’t come from Broadway insiders or PR campaigns. It came from a guy fresh out of college, writing and producing something brilliant in real-time—and letting us in on the process.

He was raw, honest, and passionate. He posted rough cuts, and took his time. And even though it was technically a solo project, it never felt like just one person’s vision—it felt like ours. Like we were part of something new. Something being built from the ground up by a community that actually cared. Jorge didn’t just write music—he created a space. A fandom that felt small but fiercely connected.

And let’s not forget the cast. The singers weren’t industry names—they were TikTok artists. People we watched grow alongside Jorge. Their voices were professional, yes, but they weren’t chosen because of headshots or résumés. They were chosen because they fit. Because they felt right. It was so refreshing to see real talent chosen on merit, not connections. That made it feel like maybe—just maybe—anyone could be a part of this. That spirit of inclusion and openness is rare in the entertainment world.

But now, with Epic growing into a full company with a staff and production team… something feels different.

Don’t get me wrong—I understand why this shift had to happen. Running a production at this scale takes time, money, organization, and a lot of people behind the scenes. It makes sense. But in the process of becoming “big,” it’s started to lose that raw, grassroots feel. It feels more distant.

It’s starting to feel less like a passion project and more like a brand.

And with Illium now in development, I can’t help but worry that the days of open auditions and unexpected voices are behind us. The fandom has grown so big and if he opens auditions to everyone that would be a nightmare to go through all those auditions. Jorge now has so many industry connections. He’s got access to big names, Broadway-level talent, producers, managers—all the machinery. And while that might be good for the show’s future success, I worry it also means the door is quietly closing on the very thing that made Epic magical: the sense that anyone could be part of it.

Open auditions weren’t just a nice touch—they were part of the DNA of Epic. They sent a message to the fandom: “This is for you.” And for people like me who grew up loving musicals but never felt seen by the industry, that mattered more than I can explain. It wasn’t just the music—it was the hope, the possibility, the feeling that we were watching something break all the rules and still work.

I still love Epic. I still love Jorge. I will absolutely support Illium and whatever comes next. But I also think it’s okay to feel a little heartbroken when something that used to feel personal starts to feel out of reach. I’m not angry. I’m not bitter. Just nostalgic. And maybe a little sad that the thing that brought so many of us together is slowly becoming just another polished product—one more thing to consume, instead of something to be part of.

So if you feel the same—if you’re excited for the future but missing the past—you’re not alone. I think we can cheer for the success and still mourn the magic of what once was.

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fantomefille · 2 months ago

We all adore kittens but they grow bigger and the infatuation simmers down. Children grow. So do productions.

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Top_Philosopher5090 · OP · 2 months ago

Oh yes and like I said I’m so so happy it’s growing. But that doesn’t mean I can’t miss what it used to be. I will continue to support Jorge 

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1017_ConFused · 2 months ago

Tbh you’re valid in your opinion. I feel the same way but I hold a sliver of hope that he might continue to hold open auditions although it would probably change a bit

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Top_Philosopher5090 · OP · 2 months ago

Yeah, the only way I could see them holding open auditions is to narrow down the casting call for each character. Instead of being anyone audition for any character it would be a male tenor between the ages of 25 to 30 or something like that. Even then, that would still be a lot of auditions to go through. 

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1017_ConFused · 2 months ago

Yea. Or he might make a team to go through them and select some for a second round pick

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DocMino · 2 months ago

Yep, this is a universal truth of watching something grow. When you’re there at the start, there’s this feeling of “I’m witnessing something special from the moment of its birth.”

So you follow it, you support it, you cheer on the people behind it, and you feel like this needs to make it big. And then it does.

You’re happy. You feel like the good guys won. This is the happily ever after. Except this is real life. The story keeps going.

When something gets big enough, the fandom widens and you get people you’d rather not have. Suddenly the small creator has a full staff, a legal team, and it’s a corporate entity before you know it. But you keep hanging on because this is something you’ve been following since the start. You watched it grow. You can’t just let go. That would be a betrayal.

Then one day, you just realize the thing you fell in love with is gone. Like it’s there, but it doesn’t make you feel like it did before.

For me, it was Rooster Teeth. By 2014 I had realized the thing I fell in love with was dead, and by the time of its actual death it was basically a shambling corpse mired in controversy. Same with Critical Role. Went from a grass roots dnd campaign to a corporation.

It’s normal. There’s nothing wrong with the way you feel. I’ve been there, and many others have been there too.

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Conscious-Solid9491 · 2 months ago

Change is a constant

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Top_Philosopher5090 · OP · 2 months ago

Oh of course but like I said in my post I can be excited for the future I’m still missing the past

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smithsgasoline · 2 months ago

I hate that I can tell you at least used ChatGPT for some of this post 😂

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Top_Philosopher5090 · OP · 2 months ago

So I have ADHD my thoughts are scattered especially when it comes to writing long things. Every now and again when I’m wiring for non academic or professional work I will throw my jumbled mess into a AI system to help me organize it. This is the only way I can really communicate my thoughts when I have a lot to say. All the ideas are mine and a lot of the wording is mine I just need help making it readable so I can start conversations with people 

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js_a_lil_goofball · 2 months ago

why is bro getting downvoted for using ai for this, it's not like it's a full blown novel

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smithsgasoline · 2 months ago

You’re good! I have to do the same thing, I think that’s how I recognized it lol

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r/musicals • [10]

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Epic: The Musical (official concept album)

Posted by Salt_Plenty_2909 · in r/musicals · 1 year ago

Ok so I found this musical on Spotify after listening to some Steven Universe… Can all musical lovers just stop for a moment and give this man Jorge Rivera-Harrans his flowers? The lyricism, the voice changes, the story telling! I love Greek Mythology and musicals, I was beyond happy when I first heard this. No one can convince me it’s not fire! I need to talk to someone about this!!

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Neat_Refrigerator751 · 1 year ago

I did a musical with one of the members on the show years ago! I am excited for them, they are so talented!

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Salt_Plenty_2909 · OP · 1 year ago

They are! I can’t even pick a favorite song!

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nowhereman136 · 1 year ago

I do enjoy the musical as a whole (so far), however I can tell this is the first musical this guy has written. the lyrics are a bit clunky in certain spaces.

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kandocalrissian · 1 year ago

Whilst I agree with you on the slight clunkiness it’s actually his second concept musical

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jamessoda · 1 year ago

I discovered it a couple months ago scrolling through Spotify, and am rediscovering it now! I think Jorge Rivera-Herrans is doing an amazing job so far. The writing can definitely be weaker in some parts, but songs like Ruthlessness and Wouldn't You Like are very well-written and captivating numbers. I can't wait to hear the full thing! And also his performance as Odysseus is absolutely wonderful, I mean his voice is a whole other conversation in itself like wow.

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benegesseritwitch_ · 1 year ago

We have been listening to this non stop for months. It has quickly become my absolute favorite musical

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Salt_Plenty_2909 · OP · 1 year ago

It’s on my queue always!

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Fragrant_Mine2526 · 7 months ago

Yo acabo de escuchar "keep your friends close" y no puedo dejar de escucharla...es maravillosa

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melody_musical21 · 1 year ago

I discovered this a while back but only got obsessed right before the release of the Thunder Saga. I got to watch the livestream and oh my gosh, it was such an amazing experience 😭 Jorge deserves all the credit he gets for his work, it really is amazing. I love EPIC so much! 

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Salt_Plenty_2909 · OP · 1 year ago

Livestream?? Why am I always working when the good stuff happens? 😭

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melody_musical21 · 1 year ago

Aww you missed it?? That's sad 😭 I'm pretty sure he does live streams for every release though (and usually it only shows the saga being released, but the Thunder Saga one showed every song because of the Troy and Cyclops rereleases), so when the next saga releases there will be a livestream for it that you can hopefully watch! :) 

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NavierIsStoked · 9 months ago

I’m not a player, I’m a puppeteer.

No I don’t play, I puppeteer.

Pretty much that entire song is cringe. There are some good ones though, for sure.

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  1. Creation and Concept: "EPIC: The Musical" was created by the team of composer and lyricist, Michael J. McGowan and book writer David J. Leveaux. The musical is known for its unique blend of humor, adventure, and heartfelt moments, drawing inspiration from classic epic tales.

  2. Premiere: The musical premiered in 2014 at the New York Musical Theatre Festival (NYMF), where it received positive feedback for its engaging story and catchy songs.

  3. Themes: The narrative revolves around themes of heroism, friendship, and the journey of self-discovery, often parodying traditional epic narratives found in literature and film.

  4. Development and Productions: Following its initial success at NYMF, "EPIC: The Musical" underwent further development, including workshops and regional productions. It has been praised for its ability to appeal to both younger audiences and adults.

  5. Notable Features: The musical features a diverse cast and a mix of musical styles, showcasing the talents of its performers. The choreography and staging have also been highlighted as key elements that enhance the storytelling.

Takeaway: "EPIC: The Musical" stands out for its innovative approach to storytelling and its ability to resonate with audiences through humor and relatable themes. If you're interested in contemporary musicals that blend traditional elements with modern sensibilities, this one is worth exploring!

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