completely agree with you💯 i once heard mera (a kpop YouTuber) say “kpop fans are just sports fans with glitter”, and it has never left my mind since

The way k-pop stans act definitely remind me of sports fans, particularly the intense tribalism and the way some people make being a fan of a team their entire personality.

Reminds me of a tweet that said a lot of music fans would be happier if they were sports fans because "If your favorite part of being a fan of an artist is arguing about charts and who holds more records, it's because your heart longs for ESPN" lol

Wholeheartedly agree, from a football fan and Kpop fan perspective, both are supportive, passionate and a little crazy.

Both love pushing certain agendas (X is the goat but the team hasn't utilized them well, we're the underdogs, etc). Some fans are stat-driven nerds (Group A/ Team B are the first ... to ... in the 21st century); some love to criticize the front office/ company's every decision.

Imo sport fans and Kpop fans need to sit down and traumabond together, maybe that will help us chill out a bit.

Chanelle moon could play for Argentina but Messi couldn’t sing Gravity

Loona, Red Velvet, & 2NE1 🙏🏼🙏🏼

Loona ❤️x12

Great variety!

The 2NE1 albums 🙌

The Korean name for NMIXX is 엔믹스 which is pronounced as en-mik-seu. You’re likely hearing that final -eu sound when they chant their name.

It’s to do with how Korean works. Broadly speaking, Korean words are comprised of syllables, that are themselves comprised of a starting consonant, a vowel, and an ending consonant. Either consonant can be omitted or silent, but every syllable must have a vowel.

NMIXX is spelt 엔믹스. First syllable is 엔, which is comprised of ㅇ (which, when used at the beginning of a syllable, is silent), ㅔ (which is often romanised as “ae” but makes a short “eh” sound, as in “pen”) and ㄴ(which is simply n). Together it is “aen” The next syllable 믹 has the same structure. ㅁ=m ㅣ=i, and ㄱ=k. But this syllable has now used up its starting consonant, vowel, and ending consonant, but so far we only have aenmik.

To emulate the “x” sound, we need an “s”, so we must start a new syllable: 스. We have our ㅅ=s, but every syllable must have a consonant, so a ㅡ is used, which is romanised as “eu” and makes a sound that linguists call a schwa, which is kind of the neutral vowel. It’s the vowel that results when you relax all the muscles in your mouth that form articulation and vocalise. It’s the same sound as the first “a” in “arena” in most English accents. At the end of that, we have aenmikseu This was probably an unnecessarily long explanation but hopefully you get it now.

Sort of, but not exactly. X in English isn't a sound. it's two sounds, k and s. The extra vowel at the end comes not from x, but from the format of Korean not allowing consonants to stand on their own. An English word can end with the s sound, but a Korean word must have a vowel after, and it becomes an entirely new syllable. 엔믹스 sounds a bit more like enmikseu,

There's nothing unusual about this. J-pop has been doing the same thing for a long time, since the 80s.

You should actually show people the albums and memories of/dvds etc from kpop so people can actually understand. When I worked in advertising/graphic/branding design I brought in my Kpop albums/dvds and let me tell you these are people with decades of industry in graphic design and branding and they were really impressed, not just by the graphic design and typography, photography, but the quality of the packaging and all.

Other things birthday cafe events, photobooth events, organising mass concert viewing parties, official concert screenings (yes i know this happens outside of kpop) in cinemas is something i also enjoy. The swapping of the the photocards at cinema screenings is also part of the experience.

Also learning fanchants, getting slogans, swapping goodies/freebies at kpop concerts is also what I introduce to my friends who are new or casual to kpop if i'm going to a concert with them.

U-kiss, Tvxq, Jewelry, Black Pearl, Black Beat, Csjh The Grace are a few that come to mind. Also what's your channel name? I am interested in your videos! Hopefully they aren't as sanitized as midnight theories videos.

I would like to see a History of Turbo video, or at least a history of Kim Jong Kook. From group success to solo success to variety success, that man has done it all.

I would be kinda interested in hearing bout Cool. They went through a LOT. From breaking the 7 year curse and winning an Album Daesang in 2002, and being consistently active for almost 12 years, to losing Yoo Chaeyoung (she deserves a video on her won tbh), to their impact on the Gayo scene and Coed group scene.

I'm working with a podcast team and we have a few artist introduction episodes slated for 2023 :)

She leaves out a lot of important details. She didn't mention Sowon's Nazi controversy despite making videos on GFriend, didn't mention Hongbin's departure in her VIXX video, among other things. I feel like they're made more the feel good vibes, which I don't like since a lot of people get into groups using history of videos, and it might encourage some delusional fans.

Someone else on my podcast team was messaging me about their interest in the group's history. We might work on an episode about them someday

Will add it to the list, thank you!

I love Seungkwan's cute 'Happy Burstday' 🥰

Weverse Notice

Sometimes I feel bad they have to do so many things for us but then I love the content too.

Dino is so adorable the entire time 😭

Not them saying it’s simple while the fanchant’s practically half the song 🤣

I've been a k-pop fan since 2018, and the songs I don't know are:

- Pop/Stars -K/DA

- Lo Siento - Súper Junior

- Baby Dont Stop - NCT U

- Black on Black - NCT

With all of them in 2018 lol. I knew the rest, but I am a bit disappointed. But I guess since I'm completely clueless on most things NCT and SuJu, I'm not surprised.

SHINee, Taemin, and Jonghyun had some pretty stellar releases during this time. I mean, you have Odd, 1 of 1 (not the mention the repackages), all of Jjong's solo albums, and Taemin's first few albums.

don’t know

hero - monstax

you were beautiful - day6

hola hola - kard

dinosaur - akmu

lo siento - super junior

pirate king - ateez

I only dont know 5 song from that list

LMAO "ddux4"

Is this only one song per act? You have two Wonder Girls songs there, not that I'm complaining lol but if it's not restricted to one song per artist, maybe also add Into The New World by SNSD, as it's like one of the most important songs in Kpop.

So I am sharing my guide to the history of K-Pop trying to select the essential artists, releases, and a track that together compose a 3 disc chronological compilation. Hopefully it's useful as a starter but of course leads to people getting more in depth into it.

The list is here https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-k-pop/

The YTube Playlist is here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeavkvKck5lCdnH83dVsBduk95ZtVsvwp

The Spotify Playlist https://open.spotify.com/user/thefreewave/playlist/60l1Ab9JbcQcquQidyXVrQ?si=AsdEKSTFSTSWXsmo6Zp8Ug

Part of the rymboxset.com Project covering all genres and scenes.

Recommendations for any oversights or further corrections are always appreciated. But otherwise hope you enjoy. Thanks.

My favourite group disbanded long before I was born (disbanded 1996, my birth 2004). And contrary to for example people that stan disbanded 2nd Gen groups none of their content is subbed, or accesible to international audience. So I created a subreddit for the group and shared everything I can find in Korean translanted into English there. I make colour-coded videos for their songs, since its extremly hard to find song lyric translations, or even lyrics in 한글, even though they were an immensly popular group. I search for old variiety content of them and make compilation videos of it, so its easily accesible for international fans. I talk a lot about their music online, and try to help people who are intrested in the group find content they like. I think stanning a disbanded group has many upsided, you already know all their music and dont have to fear that their quality musical wise drops. Its also less stressful since their isnt really constant new content to check out. And their are less fandom arguments then with recent groups.

I also like SS501 and it's been since about 2011 so I just missed everything. They're how I got into kpop and it wasn't a big deal at the time. It became obvious of a problem for me though during military service time and I just changed up main groups. Honestly for a while it was hoping for a reunion, these days it's down to occasionally checking up with the members and their music.

It might be harder to find some of the old ss501 stuff but they were fun on variety shows. Their appearance on Intimate note is one of my favorites. They have some fun star golden bell appearances including seeing them naming porns. I'm not entirely sure where the fandom is now since I'm not an active triple s online after Hyun Joong's thing a while back. So my knowledge is on the dated end outside of ig updates 😅 but if you want any ss501 guidance, feel free to ask! It's been a minute since I talked about them at all especially since it's rarer to find a triple s these days.

The music is always there so just remember that! 😄 and you’d be surprised at how many old videos, or interview clips or anything else you can find around the internet. I’ve been a fan of many disbanded groups for years and I find so much new stuff everyday.

Plus it’s always rewarding to still support the members individually. A group may be gone or inactive but their legacy can live on as long as you allow it

Hi, I am a fan of tons of groups that are inactive and it does not bother me, because there usually is a lot to catch up on. If I want a comeback I try to watch solo content or find similar groups.

The added bonus of staning after disbanding is the lower levels of drama and full subs on everything (unless the groups is very niche).

I encourage you to explore groups and know that were are still many people who enjoy the groups.

Also 2nd gen renaissance is happening so you can see them comeback at mmtg! JaeJae is my hero <3

People over at r/kpopnostalgia would also have good advice, as the sub is dedicated to old groups, most of them are disbanded...

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I am a native Korean infatuated with 1st/2nd K-pop music and a lot of the artists I like are no longer in the industry. Some of those groups managed to reunite temporarily, and one of them managed to release a few more singles with only two of the original members (the others were active in another country with their individual projects). One of my most favorite soloists has a completely different career and he has no intent to return to singing due to the reason he was forced to quit. I struggle to cope with the fact the said artists were unable to team up again, but all I can say is that I'm happy to see them happy and content with their current life, and I hopefully might get to see them as a singer/group again.

I did get to meet up with three of my favorite former singers (one soloist, the other two were from two different groups) and one of those men (I'll call him H here) is still dabbling in music. He opened a group chat to interact with his fans, and two other members of his group are also in it. I crashed H's workplace - he runs a store in Seoul - for a surprise visit this February, LOL. When I told him who I was, he showed me around his built-in studio and we talked about his group & his newest music release. H told me he had some ideas to hold a private fanmeet with the other members for their 20th anniversary, but COVID put a strain into his plan. He did meet up with & hold a livestream with his group's leader a month later, and although the leader is a timid man in person, he said he's willing to join the fanmeet if it comes into fruition.