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Uses of Vibranium in the Marvel Universe

Properties and Applications

Vibranium is renowned for its unique properties, which make it immensely versatile in the Marvel Universe. It is incredibly durable and can absorb kinetic energy, storing it within its molecular bonds [1:1]. This energy can be released in a controlled burst, as demonstrated by Black Panther's suit, which uses advanced technology to harness this property for combat advantage [1:3]. The metal can also be compressed using nanotechnology, allowing for intricate designs and applications, such as Black Panther's claws [1:10].

Technological Enhancements

The ability of vibranium to store and release energy often requires technological assistance. In the case of Black Panther's suit, Shuri designed mechanisms to control the energy release, drawing inspiration from safety designs used in vibranium mines [1:3]. Captain America's shield, while made of vibranium, reflects energy immediately upon impact, demonstrating the difference between raw vibranium and technologically enhanced versions [1:4].

Mystical Interactions

While vibranium is primarily known for its physical properties, it does have some mystical associations. Wakandan vibranium has been shown to interact well with sorcery, which is why characters like Doctor Doom have sought it out [4:5]. However, vibranium itself is not inherently mystical; it is considered mundane compared to metals like uru, which are ideal for magical properties [4:4].

Limitations and Physics

Despite its impressive capabilities, vibranium does not defy all physics. It absorbs vibrations but cannot fully negate momentum, meaning that impacts can still move objects or individuals wearing vibranium [2:4]. Additionally, vibranium is not indestructible; it has been damaged by powerful forces, such as Thanos' sword [2:5], highlighting its limitations.

Cultural and Extraterrestrial Origins

Vibranium's rarity is attributed to its extraterrestrial origins, having arrived on Earth via meteorite [5:6]. This scarcity contributes to its high value and strategic importance in the Marvel Universe. Wakanda's advanced mining and refinement techniques allow them to harness vibranium's full potential, making it central to their technological advancements [5:5].

In summary, vibranium is a cornerstone of Marvel's fictional universe, offering both technological and mystical advantages. Its applications range from enhancing combat gear to serving as a plot device for various storylines, illustrating its multifaceted role in the narrative.

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[Marvel] What could a vibranium sword do?

Posted by Guilty_Resident9714 · in r/AskScienceFiction · 3 years ago
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mmm3says · 3 years ago

I think that's magically enhanced as well though.

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thomascgalvin · 3 years ago

Vibranium might as well be magic. That thing does not obey the law of physics at all!

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Fifdimension2 · 3 years ago

Ah ok I just googled vibranium sword. :/

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thomascgalvin · 3 years ago

There are basically four important properties of vibranium:

  1. It is immensely durable
  2. When presented with a force that should break it, it instead absorbs and stores that energy within its own molecular bonds
  3. It can release that stored energy in a single, large burst
  4. It can be compressed to an insane degree, using nanotechnology

These attributes give us a few pretty cool sword-based applications; the most important attributes of a sword are sharpness, length, and weight, and all of these benefit from vibranium.

Because vibranium is so durable, the edge can be very, very thin, and still remain strong. You could have a scalpel-sharp sword that never needs honing. This blade would be able to cut a sheet of paper and a sheet of steel with equal ease. It would also cut through most other melee weapons and armor. It's basically as sharp as a lightsaber, but with none of the drawbacks.

Vibranium's durability also allows us to create a blade that is very thin, and thus very lightweight. You can also increase the length/reach of the weapon without adding too much weight. This gives a big advantage when fencing. You can have a weapon as long as a two-handed war sword, but as nimble as a rapier.

Because vibranium absorbs a portion of all the kinetic energy applied to it, every time you struck with the sword, you'd be storing up a small amount of energy. You could then release the energy in a single kinetic burst, either using it as an area-of-effect attack, or using it to swing the blade itself more powerfully. This is similar to the burst attack Black Panther performs. You'd need to structure the AOE attack to not hit the sword-bearer, but I'm confident Shuri could figure something out.

Finally, nanotech could be used to store the weapon in a very small form factor. You could have something like Ronin's katana, which acts again like a lightsaber, with the blade collapsing into the handle, or you could have a sword that becomes a piece of jewelry, like a ring or necklace. Tony Stark was able to store his entire Iron Man armor in something the size of his hand; a sword could probably be compressed to a grain of rice, if you really wanted to.

You could also probably build a sword with an adjustable blade length. Fighting out in the open? Summon a seven-foot long blade. Fighting in a cramped hallway? Trim the blade down to three feet. Stabbing someone in the back? The blade is now a six-inch dagger.

A vibranium sword would essentially be the perfect melee weapon.

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Malphos101 · 3 years ago

Quick note on #2 and #3:

The storing and releasing of energy is instantaneous without the help of advanced sonic tech. What you see with Black Panthers suit is a design by Shuri to harness the reflective energy properties of vibranium and release it at a time of the users choosing, rather than it being an innate property of vibranium. It is explained it came from her safety designs in the Vibranium Mines that dampen the energy release of vibranium as they were prone to devastating energy reflection.

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3rdtrichiliocosm · 3 years ago

On the note of vibranium being able to release its stored up energy in a burst.....how does that even work without some technological assistance?

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JimiAndKingBaboo · 3 years ago

If you look at the vibranium in the films, you can see that Black Panther's suit (which uses nanotech) shows the storing. Meanwhile Cap's shield (which is pretty much just a hunk-a-metal) immediately reflects energy, as seen in literally every fight that he throws it in, plus when Thor struck Cap's shield with Mjolnir causing an outburst in Avengers.

I think the storing is done with technological assistance, which gets shut off to cause the AOE Burst. Otherwise, the vibranium just reflects it.

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thomascgalvin · 3 years ago

It almost certainly involves some kind of sonic tech, but if you have the tech level to forge vibranium to start with, you probably have the rest figured out, too.

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azarin- · 3 years ago

give it to Gamora and watch the fireworks

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G_Morgan · 3 years ago

It depends entirely how it is manufactured. In super human society though the main benefit of a vibranium sword is simply because a steel sword would crumple if you hit the more durable enemies with it. Vibranium can be razor sharp and unbreakable at the same time.

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JaxJyls · 3 years ago

Black Panther's claws are pretty much mini-swords, so cut good I guess.

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redemptionarcing · 3 years ago

Stab stuff.

Slice stuff.

Paperweight.

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[MARVEL] Vibranium explained?

Posted by AdActive9833 · in r/AskScienceFiction · 4 years ago

I'm trying to understand how Vibranium is supposed to work. It's introduced as a material that absorbs ALL vibrations. Howard Stark demos it to Cap by shooting at the shield and the bullets just drop. But, how come Cap flies across rooms when his shield is hit by a granade or something? If vibrations were absorbed would momentum still exist? Or is it just a fuck up by the writers?

Same thing for Black Panther. His whole suit is made out of vibranium. He should be the most powerful thing in the universe, nothing should be able to move him.

Is there a "scientific" explanation to these things or am I to keep being enoyed by it?

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curvysquares · 4 years ago

Edit: I refer to vibrations a couple of times in this because that's the terminology used by OP and characters in Marvel. In reality, vibrations are a form of kinetic energy. When I say vibrations, I really mean any type of force acted on the vibranium. This includes punches, bullets, and hitting an object.

Vibranium in the MCU is a bit complicated. It is mentioned to absorb all vibrations (we know this can't be 100% true because otherwise Captain America's shield wouldn't bounce off of objects). It seems to me that the default for vibranium isn't to absorb vibrations but to disperse them. For example, imagine kicking down a door. You apply force toward the door and the door is moved backwards the same direction you pushed. However, if you tried to kick down a vibranium door, it would instead disperse the energy into the door frame around the door. This is best shown in the Avengers (2012) when Thor slams his hammer down on Captain America's shield. If he were to do that to a normal shield, Captain America would be crushed. But in the scene, we see a shockwave move outwards in all directions.

As for Black Panther's suit, it was the ability to store the energy for a short period of time before dispersing all of it at once.

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thomascgalvin · 4 years ago

Vibranium has a response curve, based on how much energy it's trying to absorb.

If you hit it with a small amount of force, like when Steve Rogers uses it as a weapon, or when a bullet hits it at an angle, vibranium acts like most metals; there's an elastic reaction where some of the energy is absorbed, but most of the energy is returned. This is why it can be used as a weapon, and why some bullets deflect off of it.

But if you hit it harder, like when Steve Rogers falls out of a buildings, a bullet hits it square on, or it is exposed to an explosion, vibranium's special properties activate. Rather than an elastic reaction that reflects kinetic energy, it actually stores all of that energy with its own molecular bonds. The energy needed to trigger this reaction is more than the energy needed to damage vibranium, hence its read-indestructibility.

Vibranium's ability to store energy is limited, however. If you hit it with too much energy at once, like when Thor struck Steve Roger's shield with Mjolnir, its capacity is exceeded, and all of the kinetic energy it has and is trying to absorb is released at once, in the form of a shockwave.

Black Panther's suit is a special case. For one, it isn't pure vibranium, but a vibranium weave. The suit moves like fabric, not a suit of Tony's armor, which likely means that vibranium threads are woven into it, instead of vibranium being the primary component. The suit also has special features, like the ability to release stored energy on command, which might impact its ability to absorb energy perfectly.

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ThePilot22 · 4 years ago

In your response you said the energy needed to trigger this reaction is more than the energy needed to damage vibranium. My question is, wouldn’t it take more to destroy it than to absorb it, since it is indestructible? my reasoning is because if it took less energy to destroy it than to activate the absorption it would just break before it could absorb anything

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effa94 · 4 years ago

> My question is, wouldn’t it take more to destroy it than to absorb it, since it is indestructible?

vibraium isnt indestructible, neither inthe comics nor in the movies, we saw thanos destroy caps shield.

in the comics, its adamantium that is indestructible, and caps shield is a sort of proto-adamantium that contains vibraium

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AdActive9833 · OP · 4 years ago

Hi, thanks for the answer. That could be the explanation but it still doesn't make sense. If the shield can absorb Mjolnirs hit as well as a hit of a bullit without being "affected" then it should be able to take everything in between, like a kick or a granade hit.

As for BP I'll take that partial ability even though it doesn't fully explain it. Again there's the disproportionality of it. If the weave is that tight that a bullet or a spear/knife cannot find it's way around the vibranium threads than it should take other impacts as well.

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WippitGuud · 4 years ago

Vibranium absorbs all vibration. It cannot absorb momentum, or at least not as efficiently. Otherwise, you're inferring Black Panther can tank an impact from Juggernaut without moving, and that just isn't going to happen. Panther won't get hurt (much), but he's not going to just stand there.

Also, if you're going to ask a question in this subreddit, don't use the term "writers." That's being doylist, and we want to answer from in-universe. I'll let the question stand, just keep that in mind the next time you ask something.

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AdActive9833 · OP · 4 years ago

Sorry, first post here.

Well, how is momentum transferred, is it not through vibration/kinetic energy? There have to be vibrations involved. And if it takes it all then there's no momentum transfer, right?

On a similar subject, (won't argue this about the Cap since his indistructability seems to be closing in on Superman considering the amount of beating he takes and moves on) how come Black Panther doesn't get crushed inside his suit? If the suit DOESN'T absorb all energy that means that it's transported inwards and after he gets hit by let's say Juggernaught the suit should contain an oatmeal of bags and flesh.

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essidus · 4 years ago

Unrelated, but that song will be stuck in my head for the rest of the evening. Thanks for that :P

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RoboticCurrents · 4 years ago

>His whole suit is made out of vibranium. He should be the most powerful thing in the universe, nothing should be able to move him.

Why should having a suit of the strongest metal on Earth make you king of the universe. There are thousands of planets and other metals like whatever thanos's sword is made out of or Uru.

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AdActive9833 · OP · 4 years ago

Well is it only on Earth? Seems like Mjolnir can't make a dent either... in any case, ALL Vibrations. Now apart from magic that would mean he cannot be affected by any force...

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RoboticCurrents · 4 years ago

Well vibranium isnt from earth its alien but never seen other aliens use it in MCU yet so maybe its not that common in the known universe. Perhaps thor could make a dent but wasnt trying to, tbh they always hold back when fighting each other

My memory of MCU is a little off where are you getting the whole ALL vibrations thing? Because thats obviously been proven false by thanos's sword, right? If it was what Howard Stark said he may have been making his comment on a limited knowledge they have. And in the Infinity War thanos jusy punched him and it seemed like it knocked BP out cold for a while

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Vibranium and Daredevil

Posted by Squiggs96 · in r/Daredevil · 8 months ago

If Daredevil uses his other senses (mainly hearing) due to his blindness, would vibranium weapons that absorb sound/vibration be invisible to him or harder to notice? This question stems from DD being in the larger mcu now and if they give him vibranium batons since they are giving vibranium out like candy.

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Uncanny_Doom · 8 months ago

Vibranium being vibration absorbent isn't exactly the same as being sound absorbent, but even in that case the sound waves would still travel to the vibranium so I don't think it would be invisible to Daredevil. Though it would probably be confusing to him at first.

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Squiggs96 · OP · 8 months ago

So according to the mcu it is also highly sound absorbent. For example the sneakers in Black Panther. So I feel like at least in the mcu it would be almost impossible for DD to sense

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han_tex · 8 months ago

Pretty sure that if DD encounters vibranium, it will have the exact properties the writers need it to have for the particular moment in the plot.

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Uncanny_Doom · 8 months ago

It would be difficult for him to hear someone sneaking with something designed to sneak using vibranium, but it's not like Captain America's shield doesn't make noise and would be invisible to him.

Sound also isn't the only thing that his senses pick up. He would still be aware of someone's body heat, or sound independent of vibranium like heartbeats and breathing. Not to mention particular smells.

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fenderbloke · 8 months ago

MCU vibranium makes absolutely no sense. It absorbs all vibration - including sound waves - yet when Mjolnir hits it it can create a sound wave that can destroy tanks. They can absorb all kinetic energy, yet can still be used as penetrative weapons despite any impact theoretically stopping it in its tracks. It can absorb all kinetic energy, but it can still be broken by sheer force (Namor and Thanos).

The answer to any MCU vibranium question is "don't think about it".

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DocH0RROR · 8 months ago

Mjolnir is made of uru, not vibranium, I think. Definitely in the comics, anyway. I thought the same held true in the MCU.

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fenderbloke · 8 months ago

I meant Caps shield being hot by mjolnir.

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Suspicious-Passion26 · 8 months ago

Aren’t the two types of vibranium different? Like the one in Wolverine and caps shield are super specific indestructible and cancel vibration but the wakanda vibranium enhances magic or something? Like in the comics black panther neutralizes all the wakandan stuff to limit dr dooms power?

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Cautious_Desk_1012 · 8 months ago

Wolverine is adamantium. Cap's shield is a bit more complicated.

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catcageneeder · 8 months ago

I’m pretty sure Wolverine’s bones and claws are made from adamantium and not vibranium… As for the Black Panther thing I’m not entirely sure about the comics part but in the MCU it absorbs kinetic energy and then releases it

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DocH0RROR · 8 months ago

I suppose a case could be made that ole’ DD could/would be able to sense the void/absence of sound due to the vibranium.

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paskell24 · 8 months ago

I feel that he wouldn’t hear the weapon but rather the sound of it moving through the air. E.G: he would probably be able to hear a wakandan soldier swing and throw their spear and would use that to sence where the weapon is

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[Marvel] What effect (if any) do Adamantium and Vibrainium have on Mystically enchanted items?

Posted by Decipherer · in r/AskScienceFiction · 6 years ago

Say Wolverine tried to stab through Ghost Rider's Skull, or the Star Spangled Man with a Plan threw his mighty shield towards Latveria's force field. Are they no more effective than regular steel or iron weapons?

As a follow-up, have these metals (in particular, Wakandan Vibrainium) ever been shown to be mystical in origin, or have any special mystical properties?

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RocketTasker · 6 years ago

While both adamantium and vibranium are extremely durable and the latter has some very versatile properties, they are mundane in nature. If you want a metal ideal for possessing magical properties and resisting magical attacks, uru is the way to go.

In the MCU, vibranium seems highly resistant (yet not outright immune) to the effects of the Infinity Stones. However, the Stones are described and shown as being more reactive toward organic beings and matter and less likely to freak out when touching something inorganic, which may be while various metal containers are used to control and/or isolate them.

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effa94 · 6 years ago

mcu vibraium has never said nor shown to be better suited for infinity stones. the only interaction is vision, and that was the mind stone which seems mostly harmless.

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RocketTasker · 6 years ago

Cap’s shield is immune to blasts from Tesseract-powered HYDRA weapons.

Ultron’s vibranium body only seems to be taking push force from the Mind Stone until Thor and Iron Man chip in.

Wakandan tech and armor do get shoved around by Thanos’ Gauntlet.

It’s definitely better at handling Infinity Stones than organics, but not necessarily better than other metals.

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effa94 · 6 years ago

Vibraium seems to have some mystical properties related to the pather god, but what those exact things are i dont know. adamantium got nothing

however, if you were to touch wolverines claws of black pathers suit to mjolnir nothing wotn happen, they dont interact with them in that way

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Kyle_Dornez · 6 years ago

As you've mentioned yourself, wakandan vibranium was mentioned to interacting very well with sorcery, hence why Doctor Doom got very interested in it, however beyond him making a suit enhanced with vibranium, I don't remember it being brought up afterwards.

Adamantium is a purely mundane metal, not having any kind mystical properties.

Adamantine however is a golden divine metal of Olympus, the metal Hercules' mace is forged out of. It also holds enchantments as well as uru, and likely as strong, if not stronger.

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TrogdortheBanninator · 6 years ago

They have zero mystical properties. In fact, you're probably better off using iron in some instances.

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8fenristhewolf8 · 6 years ago

Marvel Comics Presents actually showed a few issues where adamantium caused a massive explosion when it interacted with hellfire. However in a more recent Uncanny Acengers annual, the phenomenon did not repeat. (Will post the images when off mobile.) In general though, as others have mentioned adamantium doesn't react with mystical forces in any special way. In fact, magic is often an effective way to shield from or affect the otherwise very sharp and strong metal.

I'm less familiar with the ins and outs of vibranium, but I believe it can absorb magical energy much like it would other energy types. I want to say there have been at least a few instances where Black Panther delved I to the magical applications of vibranium. He might have enhanced himself with enchanted vibranium at one time?

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The Truth about Vibranium and Adamantium

Posted by RyanS148 · in r/FanTheories · 6 years ago

So by using my basic Chemistry knowledge, hints given throughout the many Marvel movies, and the internet, I am going to attempt to discern what Vibranium and Adamantium would be if they existed in our world. Let us begin.

(tldr at the bottom)

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So let's start with Vibranium. What do we know about it? It's strong, rare, and has a multitude of chemical properties. Its rarity is easily explained, as the only supply came from a meteor that came to earth 10000 years ago. Its strength come from the fact that it absorbs vibrations. And as for the many chemical properties, it still remains unexplained. So let's start figuring it out. We know Vibranium is an element, as it is referred to as an element numerous times and listed with other elements in the quiz bowl session Peter Parker has on the bus in Homecoming ("Strontium, Barium, Vibranium"). The other two are group II elements or Alkaline Earth Metals, which has lead people to believe Vibranium is one as well. But based on its other properties, Vibranium simply couldn't be in group II. For 1, group II elements are highly reactive, and wouldn't be stable. 2, alkaline earth metals aren't found freely in nature, so if it was in group II, Wakanda wouldn't be mining it up, they would be synthesizing it in a lab. So Vibranium is found somewhere else on the periodic table. Based on the fact that it has many chemical properties, it is most likely as transition metal as they have electrons in their d-orbitals and have many different oxidation states (they can give up different amounts of electrons to react with different elements). Transition metals are also highly stable and are the metals we see daily (Iron, gold, silver, etc.). So it's a transition metal, but that doesn't explain its ability to absorb vibrations, as that ability come from structure, and transition metal atoms simply sit next to each with free flowing electrons, no ability to disperse vibrations. That ability would come from a crystal lattice structure, like diamond. And that got me thinking, as diamond is a network solid, meaning instead of being just a bunch of molecules coexisting, after the individual molecules form, they form bonds with the other molecules around it, which contributes to the diamonds strength. As you may or may not know diamonds are pure carbon, that form from being put under intense pressure and heat. But what has that got to do with Vibranium you may ask? Well entering our atmosphere on a meteor and crashing into the Earth would generate a lot of heat and pressure. So I theorise that Vibranium is a transition metal that has formed a network solid making it one of the strongest metals on earth.

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So what about adamantium? It's properties are more unknown, with the exception of being nearly indestructible. However, it is most likely not an element, as indicated by the line "There's a tricky thing about adamantium. If you ever manage to process its raw, liquid form, you gotta keep it that way. Keep it hot. Because once the metal cools, it's indestructible." (X-2) Meaning that you can simply mine it, it has to be made. Based on the fact that it is made by melting rather than another form of synthesis, and its incredible strength, it is most likely an alloy. But not just any alloy, an alloy that is part Vibranium. Now at first I wasn't going to say that because one strong metal makes another strong metal felt to easy, but then I remembered Wolverine Origins, and in the beginning team-X heads to Nigeria to find a fragment of a meteorite containing a rare metal (or to be exact a rare element). Let see meteor containing rare metal in Africa, sounds like Vibranium, all right. This explains why adamantium is so expensive and hard to make. So Vibranium takes care of one of its strengths impact strength (A material's ability to resist sudden force or impact without breaking or shattering) but adamantium also has impressive yield strength (How well a material resists deformation or how much strength it takes to bend it). For this they would most likely use stainless steel do to it's abundance and impressive yield strength. Finally, I believe Iridium would be a component due to its high melting point and resistance to corrosion, which seem to be properties of adamantium. Also Iridium is extremely rare, also contributing to adamantium's expense and difficulty to make.

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tldr: Vibranium is a transition metal that forms a network solid and Adamantium is an alloy comprised of Vibranium, Stainless Steel, and Iridium

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Let me know what you guys think, and if there are any real chemists out there let me know if I am even close (theoretically)

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MadTheorist out

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Edit: Holy Cow! 1200 karma. Thanks guys, glad you liked.

Edit 2: Fixed some wording

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SpideyFan914 · 6 years ago

This is great! Out of curiosity, where does your chemistry knowledge come from? Your final statement sounds like you're saying you're not a chemist yourself, despite the impressive amount of knowledge in here. Did you do additional research for this?

Question: If vibranium is a specific network solid like diamond is for carbon, does that mean there's a theoretical weaker form of vibranium found elsewhere in the universe (ala coal)?

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Roxxorursoxxors · 6 years ago

Is it possible that vibranium is the diamond to another element already on the periodic tables carbon? Which is to say carbon+pressure=diamond so maybe, I don't know, silicon(or whatever)+pressure=vibranium.

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RCJJ · 6 years ago

Possibly, but the thing is that vibranium is listed alongside other elements like barium and strontium above, implying that it is its own separate element.

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blaq_fenrir · 6 years ago

It does sound that way...in the MCU tgey could have a space metal (Uru perhaps) be that original form of Vibranium. I like that! The MCU connections never end lol

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continuumcomplex · 6 years ago

The only thing I wanted to add to this is - in Black Panther, didn't Shuri say that raw vibranium was too unstable to transport - hence why they had the fields to 'deactivate it'. I don't know if that changes the initial part of your theory.

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valdarius · 6 years ago

Actually, it was so that the vibranium wouldn't obsorb and release the immense amount of vibration present on their mining 'trains' during transport. The fields prevented that, allowing for the mining and transport the raw material before refining

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

Also they are "mining" it from something that came out of space, could easily be a spaceship that was confused for a meteor that crashed, so it's not necessarily found in nature for that second part

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buttchuck · 6 years ago

I think your conclusion is accurate, but one of the ways you got there might not be;

>2, alkaline earth metals aren't found freely in nature, so if it was in group II, Wakanda wouldn't be mining it up, they would be synthesizing it in a lab.

Vibranium might not occur "naturally" at all. It only arrived on Earth through space, via meteorite during Wakanda's pre-history. It is extraterrestrial in origin, and beyond that we don't know anything about where it comes from or how it is created.

Wakanda mines it because it crashed into Earth, not because it occurs naturally on Earth.

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

It’s also why the “mining tech” that Klau shoots at Black Panther temporarily disrupts his suit

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viperasps89 · 6 years ago

As a chemist, I'm impressed.

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RealiGoodPuns · 6 years ago

As an alchemist, I'm searching for the philosopher's stone

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The_Tertinator · 6 years ago

Gonna comment this because it doesnt seem like you know. But you are absolutely right! Proto adamantium (Caps Shield) is a specific blend of wakandan vibranium and iron/steel (I can't remember) and beta adamantium (Ultron adamantium) is an attempt to recreate it and whatever wolverine adamantium is called is beta adamantium when it interacts with healing factor and apparently has "different" properties

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Why Tony Stark doesn't use vibranium in his armor- an interesting explanation

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Dogesneakers · 5 months ago

Isn’t vibranium everywhere in wakanda

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RagingDragon047 · 5 months ago

I have always wondered what a suit would look like of Iron Man's if it was made out of 2 rare metals in marvel. One was Vibranium and the other is Adamantium

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Ake-TL · 5 months ago

I think adamantium is already unspecified alloy of vibranium in comics

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dudleydigges123 · 4 months ago

I've heard it described one time, so it might have been retconned to hell but I still accept it as canon.

Adamantium is the hardest, strongest material of all time. Making Cap's shield indestructible.

Vibranium is resilient and absorbs vibrations, which is why Cap is not blown back by every powerful attack. Though it by itself is not actually all that strong, the 'indestructible' quality got added when the MCU couldnt namedrop adamantium, so vibranium got all the credit

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Alternative_Sea_4208 · 5 months ago

They are separate metals, the only time they have ever been successfully made into an alloy was one of Captain America's shields (was changed to just Vibranium in the movies)

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Smeg258 · 5 months ago

Honestly you made me think about an aspect I never co considered. A suit made out of any of the big metals would be impossible to modify which would be a major issue down the line at some point

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SCHexxitZ · 5 months ago

Just make external plates out of proto-adamantium (a vibranium-adamantium solid solution), and the internal machinery be vibranium nanobots with adamantium reinforcement.

Frankly it’s just excuses to keep characters from being OP.

Like….why didn’t he give every single superhero close friend of him a suit?

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stingertc · 5 months ago

He also made a suit out of URU the metal mjolnir is made of

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Zawisza_Czarny9 · 5 months ago

Not quite, he infused his bleeding edge armor in uru

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Danneflumish · 5 months ago

That's just a model, no vibranium in it...

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VegetableStation9904 · 5 months ago

We're talking MCU here not Marvel Comics. Which film or show did that happen in? 🤔

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VegetableStation9904 · 5 months ago

In the comics he did. In the MCU they literally told us that Cap's shield represented all of it outside Wakanda. Any we saw after that never made it into Stark's hands.

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The science of Vibranium, as an element?

Posted by ChocoboTorchicKid · in r/marvelstudios · 7 years ago

If we were to classify as a part of the Periodoic Table of Elements. How would you think it would go?

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Hpfanguy · 7 years ago

Vibranium (Vb) is a rare, non-terrestrial nobile metal. It has a very high but stable atomic mass, with an incredibly resistant electron shell that repels any other atoms it enters in contact with. This alien metal forms incredibly solid metal bonds when it’s raw structure is melted at high temperatures, but shows signs of ultrahigh-energy quantum/magnetic entanglement once cooled off, making the structure of molecular Vibranium extremely solid. At this point, it’s tendency to reflect all forms of kinetic energy makes it virtually impossible to bend or break, and it’s structure can only be rendered inert by resonating at specific vibration frequencies (hence the name).

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FishTaco5 · 7 years ago

I wouldn't say impossible to melt. It just has an extremely high melting point. Vibranium can be melted. Other than that I love this description.

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Hpfanguy · 7 years ago

Fair enough, we haven’t seen it ever be superheated but maybe it would, unlike Adamantium.

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ConditionYellow · 7 years ago

It also absorbs vast amounts of kinetic energy. This is why Cap can take a hit from Thor's hammer and not go flying. It is also why it can hit an object and continue sustained flight until stopped.

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Hpfanguy · 7 years ago

If it absorbed kinetic energy it would just turn it into heat and stop. It usually just reflects energy almost completely, but to put it in Spideys immortal mortal words “that thing doesn’t obey the laws of physics at all”.

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Optimal-Anything5472 · 2 years ago

Hello Hpfanguy your description was better than I thought. You can start science of fictional creatures and weapons it would be super but what do you think of adamantium please tell it in format you told above for vibranium?

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lightandtheglass · 7 years ago

Squarely between Adamantium and Uru. Where it belongs. Duh /s

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FishTaco5 · 7 years ago

Beneath Uru and Adamantium I think. They are more unique and durable than Vb.

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[deleted] · 7 years ago

It’s a metal, so it would have to go somewhere in the middle. Then you number it based on what metal elements were discovered before and after it.

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WOOKIExCOOKIES · 7 years ago

That's not what the atomic number means.

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[deleted] · 7 years ago

Oh sorry, I was treating this like how the discover new elements now, those have usually just been added on in some kind of order. They would have to count the number of protons right?

I’m also wondering if they added Tony’s new element to the Periodic Table as well?

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[Marvel] How much vibranium is there in the universe?

Posted by adeodatusIII · in r/AskScienceFiction · 5 years ago

Wakandans can't just be the sole owners of vibranium in the entire universe, is there anyone else out there using the metal? Has it been stated the amount of vibranium that exists?

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Leighgion · 5 years ago

Logically someone else in the universe has vibranium, but in the movies it hasn’t been addressed directly.

Indirectly though, we can look at the Captain America v Thanos battle in “Endgame” as, among many other things, a statement that vibranium is king on Earth but not everywhere as Thanos’ rotor sword is able to do what nothing Earth has been able to: break Cap’s shield.

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adeodatusIII · OP · 5 years ago

Has there been any mention in the comics of any aliens using vibranium?

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[deleted] · 5 years ago

Yes, in the comics Star Lords father, J'son of Spartax is trying to evict an alien race from their new homeworld because their planet is vibranium rich, he wants to use it to further his galactic empire. I dunno how that story ended though I stopped reading Captain Marvel comics. Point is there's way more vibranium in space than in wakanda it's a naturally occuring element not an alloy so of course there's lots of it

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ClownPrinceofLime · 5 years ago

IIRC Thanos’ gear is canonically Uru, the same metal that Mjolnir is made from and in the MCU Uru is the only thing that outranks Vibranium.

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CodexCracker · 5 years ago

It’s not, it’s just a headcanon gone wild like the ‘kid in Iron Man 2 is Peter Parker’ theory. Nobody knows what Thanos’ sword is made out of (the closest idea we have is that it’s actually Vibranium as the Russos themselves dropped a hint it could be). The Uru theory doesn’t even really make much sense as it hinges on Eitri making it for him at the same time as the gauntlet but Thanos had his sword before the event of Guardians of the Galaxy.

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CodexCracker · 5 years ago

T’Challa actually sent a Wakandan deep space exploration vessel to find the origin of the Vibranium meteor that hit Earth which led to the creation of the Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda in the Vega system. They have Vibranium mines on the planets that are part of the empire, so to answer your question, yeah there’s a lot of Vibranium out there and not just on Earth.

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adeodatusIII · OP · 5 years ago

I KNEW THEY MUST HAVE A SPACE PROGRAM it seemed so weird to me how in the movies Wakanda is a super advanced nation but there's zero space presence of Wakanda, I mean they MUST have some sort of space station at least.

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Blastweave · 5 years ago

Since 2015 or so, immediately following Secret Wars. Which was itself pretty fantastic.

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Chaosmusic · 5 years ago

If vibranium came from an asteroid then I think it is safe to say that more exists in the universe. Most asteroids that we know of are the ones that exists in our solar system and we have a pretty good idea what they are made of so it should also be safe to say the Wakandan asteroid came from outside our solar system (fun fact, the first proven interstellar object to enter our solar system was discovered in 2017 named Oumuamua.

So, is vibranium naturally occurring or did an advance alien species invent it? If it is naturally occurring there could be other asteroids, asteroid fields or even planets just teeming with the stuff. If it is artificial then the Wakandan asteroid could have been the result of a major catastrophe that befell that species. A war, an accident or a natural disaster that destroyed their planet, system, even galaxy millions of years ago. In that case, other pockets of vibranium might be whizzing about as rogue asteroids.

In the comics it is pretty much said that there are other planets where vibranium has been discovered.

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eliteprephistory · 5 years ago

The asteroid could have been part of the core of a gas giant that exploded for some reason, given that such cores are enormous there' probably plenty spread out around the galaxy and certainly in the Universe. Its plausible there's some in Saturn or Jupiter but unless one of them is like Ego's brother-in-law, I don't see any way (aside from employing an infinity stone or two) that anyone can make use of it.

I bet even Strange would be hard pressed to mine Vibranium from the core of a gas giant.

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k3ttch · 5 years ago

Antarctica is another major source of Vibranium on Earth.

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k3ttch · 5 years ago

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Vibranium

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Forgive my ignorance and if this has already been discussed. Are adamantium and vibranium in the same family or in their own groups? How do they stack against each other?

Posted by rambot_88 · in r/Marvel · 3 years ago
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Julius_Downey · 3 years ago

Nope. To my knowledge, Vibranium is an alloy derived from the mining of an ancient meteor under what is now Wakanda. It’s strong, has some kind of energy absorbing and redirecting properties, but is not unbreakable.

Adamantium is I believe, is a completely man-made alloy that is unbreakable.

Now, I started reading comics in the 70s and stopped reading comics regularly in late 90s, but have on occasion jumped in here and there since. That’s where my comic nerd knowledge ends and for all I know, and if I were not so lazy as to just look it up on some Wiki, my descriptions of the metals remain true.

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rambot_88 · OP · 3 years ago

That’s great, I didn’t know the origins of vibranium. Thanks for that!

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[deleted] · 3 years ago

Also vibranium increases your magical capacity. Doom loves that shit.

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Apart_Location_5373 · 3 years ago

Adamantium was the metal the Greek Gods forged their weapons from. In Marvel lore it is an unbreakable metal that only a very few can heat and manipulate, most famously used to lace Wolverine’s bones, making him a real tough S.O.B.

Vibranium is the metal found in Wakanda (from a meteorite) and was named for its weird vibrational characteristics and interactions with sound. Ulysses Klaw was a sound based character and enemy of Black Panther so vibranium & sound and such. It wasn’t nearly as bad-ass in the comics as it is in the MCU.

Cap’s Shield was famously an Adamantium & Vibranium blend, the only known binding of the two metals and nigh indestructible.

Because the MCU owned Black Panther and Vibranium, but NOT Wolverine and Adamantium (movie rights owned by FOX at the time) Vibranium kind of became an Adamantium stand in, and became a lot stronger, and does a lot more awesome stuff, like absorbing kinetic energy.

Comic wise, Adamantium was the strongest metal. Vibranium had weird sound/vibration qualities. So generally speaking I’d say Adamantium is tougher than Vibranium, comics wise. MCU movie wise the distinction is less clear because Marvel didn’t always own the rights to both metals at the same time, so Vibranium became more the bad-ass metal in the movies.

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centipededamascus · 3 years ago

Sorry, but you are mistaken. Captain America's shield is a vibranium-steel alloy also known as proto-adamantium. Adamantium was created in an attempt to re-create the shield's unique properties. Adamantium had not been discovered yet when the shield was created.

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nekoken04 · 3 years ago

Also adamantium is often shown as being a couple of different liquid metals which when combined solidify and isn't malleable.

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climbin111 · 3 years ago

What an informative answer. Thanks for the input…dude/dudette!!

I’ve actually wondered the same thing but never asked because I figured fans would get into nit-picking and arguing over which was better (based solely on their personal biases).

Your answer is as close to being as “matter-of-fact” as it can get. I’m directing my questions to you from now on, for everything related to Marvel characters!!

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beef311 · 3 years ago

I believe I saw this come up some months ago. And pardon me if I am wrong but adamantium was man made from vibranium.

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rambot_88 · OP · 3 years ago

See, that’s what I’m curious about. What alloys are available to create an unbreakable metal. My thought goes to vibranium. And what the hell is Thanos weapon he wields in the films, made out of? It tore up captain Americas shield like nothing and didn’t even have a nic on it. Are there any comics that speak of both metals in the same issue or series?

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Apart_Location_5373 · 3 years ago

I’m not aware of the idea of Adamantium being derived from Vibranium, but comics get ret-conned a lot and I’ve slacked off on reading the last 10 years or so.

There was a whole story line done on Adamantium and there are several different “formulas” or versions now. When I said it was from the Greek Gods, I meant that is where the term comes from: “metal adamant” is mentioned in Greek myth and was clearly the inspiration for Adamantium.

I couldn’t tell you what Thanos’ blade is made from, but Rocket had an interesting throw-away line in Endgame where he says something like “Watch it smart guy, you’re only a genius on earth.” To Tony Stark, implying that in the greater galaxy, maybe Stark isn’t that special. By extension, Vibranium and Adamantium that may be rare and super strong on earth, might not be that uncommon or special in the wider galaxy or universe(s).

See, when I was asking these kind of questions back in the day, we were wanting to know if Wolverine could cut through Cap’s shield. The answer was no, but he did score it pretty good, and that was chalked up to the added Vibranium.

Since then Cap’s shield has been broken a half dozen times, Wolverine’s lost, got back n lost again his Adamantium, and Black Panther’s Vibranium has become incredible. I can’t keep up with it all!

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centipededamascus · 3 years ago

> Cap’s Shield was famously an Adamantium & Vibranium blend, the only known binding of the two metals and nigh indestructible.

This is not true. Cap's shield is a vibranium-steel alloy also known as proto-adamantium. Adamantium was created in an attempt to re-create that unique alloy.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Adamantium#Proto-Adamantium

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centipededamascus · 3 years ago

This page on the Marvel Wikia should answer any questions you have:

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Adamantium > Dr. Myron MacLain sought to create an indestructible alloy for the American side during World War II. At one point he fell asleep at his lab bench, and the metals he was working with somehow bonded together. This mysterious alloy--a combination of steel, Vibranium, and an unknown catalyst--created a material stronger than any yet known. However, without knowing the exact ingredients and their proportions, MacLain could never duplicate the process. The sample was worked into a disc, which became Captain America's Shield. MacLain's later attempts to duplicate the material included a formula without Vibranium, which resulted in the creation of True Adamantium, which is almost as strong as Captain America's shield.

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Does Tony create Vibranium in Iron Man 2?

Posted by Senor_Tortuga308 · in r/marvelstudios · 1 year ago

So we know Howard Stark used Vibranium in the 40s to create Caps Shield, and surely was studying it for other uses.

Since the metal was so rare, it would make sense that Howard would try to synthesise it himself. He figured out the formula but couldn't synthesise it as he was limited by technology of his time.

We know Vibranium has healing properties as seeing when they use those vibranium beads to heal Everett Ross's back in Black Panther, so it makes sense that it would also work on cancelling out the toxicity of the arc reactor.

What are your thoughts?

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Ashkal_Khire · 1 year ago

In the script book it’s confirmed that it was infact Vibranium that he synthesised. Although since this wasn’t in the movie itself, it’s difficult to give a decisive answer either way.

It certainly leans that way, and you could argue from its rarity (and the shield being lost), that Jarvis wouldn’t have any Vibranium in his data banks to reference from - making him entirely truthful from his perspective when declaring it was a “brand new element”.

It also makes a lot of sense that Howard Stark was the one originally trying to synthesise more of it, since he was the one who forged the original shield. He would’ve had intimate knowledge of it, but was known for keeping his secrets tight, which might explain why Vibranium wasn’t widely known by the scientific community at the time, (or Jarvis).

But alas, it’s never explicitly confirmed within officially released media, just the original script book. So if you want it to be Vibranium, have at it. If you don’t want it to be Vibranium, equally have at it. Nobody loses.

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WallyOShay · 1 year ago

No, it’s a completely new element that had not previously been known.

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Senor_Tortuga308 · OP · 1 year ago

I know as the film was originally written this was the case, since Vibranium wasn't introduced in the MCU yet.

But this is more of headcanon thing that I feel like makes a lot more sense than Howard Stark just coming up with a new element.

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ConsistentSorbet638 · 1 year ago

How was vibranium not introduced in the MCU. Was Cap really using a frisbee.

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zurareview · 1 year ago

No. It's a new element based on Howard's research of the Tesseract.

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WyldeSquirrel · 1 year ago

No, I've heard that it was originally supposed to be artificial vibranium or even adamantium but the official lore is he made a new element and named it 'badassium'. He then uses the new element in most of his new tech.

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[deleted] · 1 year ago

That was in the novelization only I think.

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Snoo_77789 · 1 year ago

No "the mound" that was the site of the final fight in BP1 is the meteor of vibranium that fell to earth. Just saying it's not just the novelization, it's in the story.

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[deleted] · 1 year ago

I know that I was just saying that I seem to remember that the novelization of Iron Man 2 said he synthesized Vibranium.

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How is Vibranium used in the Marvel Universe

Key Considerations on Vibranium in the Marvel Universe:

  1. Origin: Vibranium is a fictional metal primarily found in Wakanda, a technologically advanced African nation. It is known for its unique properties and is central to Wakandan culture and technology.

  2. Properties:

    • Energy Absorption: Vibranium can absorb, store, and release kinetic energy, making it incredibly durable and resistant to damage.
    • Sound Absorption: It can also absorb sound waves, which contributes to its stealth capabilities.
  3. Applications:

    • Weaponry: Vibranium is famously used to create Captain America's shield, which is nearly indestructible and can absorb impacts.
    • Technology: Wakanda utilizes vibranium in various advanced technologies, including transportation, medical devices, and energy sources.
    • Armor: Characters like Black Panther wear suits made from vibranium, enhancing their strength and providing protection.
  4. Cultural Significance: In the Marvel Universe, vibranium is not just a material; it symbolizes Wakanda's wealth, technological advancement, and cultural heritage. It plays a crucial role in the narrative of identity and power dynamics within the superhero community.

Takeaway: Vibranium is a versatile and powerful element in the Marvel Universe, integral to the identity of Wakanda and its heroes, particularly in enhancing their abilities and technology. Its unique properties make it a key asset in both combat and innovation.

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