Origins and Formation
Wakanda's history in the Marvel Comics universe begins with a meteorite made of Vibranium, one of the strongest substances in the universe, striking the continent of Africa millions of years ago. This event significantly affected the plant life around it. When humans emerged, five tribes settled on this land, leading to the formation of Wakanda [1]. The presence of Vibranium became central to Wakanda's development, providing them with advanced technology and resources that set them apart from the rest of the world.
Isolationist Policies
Historically, Wakanda has maintained a policy of isolationism. Despite possessing incredible powers and resources, Wakanda refrained from intervening in global events such as the slave trade, colonization, and genocides [5:2]
[5:5]. This decision was rooted in their desire to protect their secrets and maintain control over their Vibranium reserves. However, this stance has been criticized both within the comics and by readers for its moral implications
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Espionage and Knowledge Gathering
While Wakanda remained isolated, they were not completely disconnected from the world. Through their War Dog division, which focused on espionage, Wakanda gathered intelligence on significant global events and organizations, including Hydra, S.H.I.E.L.D., and the Avengers [5:1]. Their goal was to acquire information while preventing the revelation of Wakanda's true capabilities to the outside world.
Cultural and Historical Representation
Wakanda's portrayal in Marvel Comics often intersects with real-world historical and cultural themes. For instance, the "Eyes of Wakanda" series explores how Black Panthers have intersected through history, showcasing Wakandan warriors retrieving dangerous Vibranium artifacts throughout different periods [4]. This narrative approach allows Marvel to delve into Wakanda's rich history and its role in the broader Marvel Universe.
Modern Developments and T'Challa's Leadership
The character of T'Challa, also known as Black Panther, marks a turning point in Wakanda's history. He acknowledges the limitations of Wakanda's past policies and opens up the nation to the world, recognizing the need for change and engagement [5:3]. This shift is a central theme in the "Black Panther" storyline, where T'Challa grapples with the legacy of his ancestors and the challenges of leading a nation with such a complex history.
Overall, Wakanda's history in Marvel Comics is a blend of mythological elements, cultural exploration, and social commentary, making it a unique and integral part of the Marvel Universe.
Odin introduced Asgard as the realm Eternal. To the nine realms, Asgard remained a beacon of Hope, shining out across the stars. It remained hidden into mankind's myths and legends and Asgard and it's warriors brought peace to the Universe.
King T'Chaka described the History of Wakanda as follows: Millions of years ago, a meteorite made of Vibranium, the strongest substance in the Universe struck the continent of Africa, affecting the plant life around it. And when the time of men came, 5 tribes settled on it and Wakanda was formed. The tribes lived in constant war with each other until a warrior Shaman received a vision from the Panther Goddess Bast, who led him to the Heart-shaped herb, a plant that granted him superhuman strength, speed and instincts. The Warrior became King and the first Black Panther, the protector of Wakanda.
Four tribes agreed to live under the King's rule, but the Jabari tribe isolated themselves in the mountains. Wakanda used Vibranium to develop technology more advanced than any other nation and became a 3rd world country and the most powerful nation. To keep the Vibranium safe, the Wakandans vowed hide in plain sight keeping the truth of their power from the outside world.
How will MCU introduce Latveria next?
I think when Baron Zemo said "Sokovia and its neighboring countries" he could be referring to Latveria. However, the most obvious approach is Sokovia because of the fact that you can make Victor Von Doom seek revenge on the Avengers.
The only issue with that is I would rather have him introduce Latveria in the F4 movie.
I doubt if Doom would be introduced in mid/post credits of the Fantastic Four, and weren't they confirmed by Feige to originate from the Multiverse?
Could be that F4 is from a different universe, then gets permanently moved to the main one by the end of the movie, but Doom is from the main timeline. They could simply just appear in Latveria when they cross dimensions, which would be an easy way to introduce F4 and a pre-evil Doom (I really hope they make Doom a slow burning villain, because just throwing him in as a villain in his first appearance, just to immediately be defeated and seen maybe once more seems a little low. Would be neat if he took a similar role to Tony Stark for a little while. Rich guy funding superheroes, eventually trying to become one himself, which leads to the supervillain arc).
Doom is a Revenger!
Latveria should 100% rise from the ashes of Sokovia.
I’m mixed on this. For the MCU it makes so much sense. On the other hand, I feel like Latveria not having its own history does a disservice to Doom’s story.
Idk
"Latveria" could have been an old name for Sokovia and changed through politics or conquered. There could even be an oppressed or suppressed population of Latverians pining for a return to glory.
Part of what you love about Marvel is that it's just a fantasy world.
Looks bad 🤷♂️
Like always they didnt do shit even though they had the Power to prevent the Rwandan Genocide and Many others atrocities in África
they didn’t gaf
“Wow, that’s so crazy, thank god we barely interact with them”
Ignore it like a bunch of other countries
Willing to bet these events didn't happen in that universe.
Haven’t seen the show yet but is it mentioned when it exactly takes place?
1260BC, 1200BC, 1400AD and 1896AD
for each episode
To clarify, they only gave the years and not the months right?
I want more tv shows And movies taking Place in the distant past for example a tv Animated series with Iron Fists across time , a Thor Animated series or a Asgard Animated series in the past maybe with a Young Odin
It take place in the main timeline??
Yes, it's a history of the Wakandan War Dogs.
Wakandan warriors throughout history have traveled the world to retrieve dangerous vibranium artifacts.
Pretty good! It's nothing insanely special, but it's exactly what Marvel said it'd be and I wouldn't mind if they released more prequel miniseries like this for other parts of their universe's mythos (eg, misadventures of young Thor).
After meeting Jorani, I wouldn't mind a history of >!the Iron Fist!< as well.
I think that was my favorite episode although the second one was pretty good too.
Yeah, just the conversations and allusions even in the original show hyped up some K'un L'un lore but never showed it, save for that awesome flashback fight in Season 2 were Danny and Davos were wearing masks
I wasn't expecting Achilles, Odysseus and the Trojan War to be part of the MCU, but here we are.
As a kid I was obssesed with a book I had about Greek mythos, so you can see that I enjoyed with all the references.
I mean Zeus is part of the mcu and so is Hercules and lots of others so only makes sense
I was hoping Achilles actually had his mythological power. Heracles is in the MCU, so I don't see why he shouldn't. Plus, it would make the betrayal more meaningful since B'Kai/Memnon would be the only one to know about his heel.
Show is still peak though.
Memnon was an actual hero (and Prince of Ethiopia) who fought Achilles in the Iliad which I thought was a great touch. He came off more like Patroclus though (no complaints but IYKYK)
Yes, he had the role of Patroclus on the story, but obviously they had to find a more fitting name.
I'm amazed Marvel and Disney aren't hyping this up more and advertising it everywhere - it's absolutely gorgeous. Had I not followed this sub, I wouldn't have even realized it was coming out today.
Just watched them and they were alright. The animation and score were the real outstanders for me and also a couple of cameos.
This made me want a similar show set in the MCU continuity but in the current day to fill some gaps.
I was thinking serious Fury vibes in the second episode. 😂
Must've been scratched by a Flerken.
So are they gonna show how and why Wakanda, with all its incredible powers and resources, never intervened in all the horrendous events that transpired on the continent? The slave trade, colonization, the various dictatorships and genocides, more recent issues like terror groups?
I mean it's fair to blame Wakanda on that, but if we go down that road then there are a ton of superheros who existed at those times who could also have easily stopped all those bad things from happening. But didn't.
Superheros make no sense, and we shouldn't try to make them make sense.
But Wakanda itself isn’t a hero. A hero can usually only be in one place at a time, and can only pull so much weight politically. Wakanda is an entire country who did not intervene in times of massive tragedies, including genocide and slavery. What hero was around in the 1600s to stop them?
Wakanda was there. They don’t even need a black panther superhero to stand up against something like nazis. It didn’t affect them, so they didn’t get involved. And recognizing all of that as a mistake is why Tchalla was different from his ancestors
To be accurate, Wakanda should really have been profiting off the slave trade. I dare you Marvel!
In fact, Tch'ala admits Killmonger is right and opens up Wakanda to the world
There are other, better black stories in comic books than the gated ethno state country.
Wakanda is basically the lies GOP peddle.
"if we wall our country off to keep the deplorables out, we will become a utopia"
I’m curious as to what you want Marvel to do. Black Panther has proved to be popular and profitable so it makes sense to explore Wakanda’s history in the MCU. If there are other stories in Marvel about African nations feel free to share.
You see, Wakandans let King Leopold's men cut the hands of hundreds of thousands of Congolese. They couldn't intervene for reasons.
And when Italians used poison gas on Ethiopians in 1936, the Wakandans again couldn't intervene due to reasons.
Wakanda are assholes in their history.
Yes, that's the plot of Black Panther 1
> Well… isn’t that the point?
You're right, but we both know Disney is not going to do that. They're going to show how Wakanda has always been secretly helping other Africans, from the shadows. It's going to undercut Killmonger's point because it'll turn out that he was just plain wrong. Wakanda has always cared.
Calling it now, there is going to be some mega-versal threat that our Wakandan heroes will travel through time to solve and the series will end with a "The world will never know what you did to help them" message. Which just makes thing weird about slavery because there is the subtle message of "Be happy with what you got, because it could have been worse".
Disney has no idea how to handle Wakanda. The first movie was a lot more accepting the Wakandans being straight up fascists.
I mean, outside of their War Dog division, which focused on espionage, they stayed extremely isolationist.
Then if we use the book, The Wakanda Files, it was shown that through their espionage efforts they knew about the Starks' death, Hydra, Shield, the Avengers, and many other events, but weren't involved in them as their goal was to find out what information those groups had, take it for themselves, and prevent the reveal of Wakanda to the world
Animation looks great! I hope this series can become like what Star Wars Tales is. This season focuses on Wakanda, the next one on Asgard, Kamar-Taj, Ta-Lo, Madripoor, and so on and on...
I wonder if we will get to see other heroes.
It would also be cool to see Klaue make an appearance since this will be set in the past.
It was pretty much confirmed during D23 last August that an Iron Fist will be appearing in the show. Jona Xiao is assumed to be voicing her.
Ooh, are we going to see the Iron Fist and Black Panther from 10,000 BC?
I believe all the episodes are set more in the ancient past, not recent history.
A previous Iron Fist is rumoured to make an appearance.
It's not really rumored, it was basically confirmed during D23 last year. The filmmakers behind the series said a hero from a “secret city” whose name is also a title, and has a “glowing fist" will appear so we definitely getting an Iron Fist.
Have they referred to the Dogs of War as the Hatut Zeraze before this? Maybe we’ll get the White Wolf.
I am loving this animation style.
God I love Wakanda. What a genius idea to uplift an entire people by elevating them with spirituality. Regal.
If the Black Panther's of old decided that they needed to intervene during slavery and open their borders what do you think would have happened and how do you think that changes 616 universe continuity?
A better question I think is if Wakanda decided to intervene during slavery... where would they start and why?
I think they'd probably start on the continent. Stopping clans and tribes from selling their enemies into chattel slavery. You cut that off and it changes the game
You turn a divided Africa into a united one and with Wakanda tech, you change the world overnight. Africa around Wakanda becomes bigger, better and more united while the rest of the world that revived the slaves, wouldn’t have had the same history without slavery.
I agree. That's pretty smart strategically too. Once you address that ie remove the supply end while the overseas demand remains hungry for it, they begin to be more agressive in trying to invade and raid for human cargo by force. It's the perfect trap/ambush on home ground. I need an elseworlds of Africans just cutting down droves of colonial incursions for a century or two until they get the message.
The USA as we know it wouldn’t exist because it’s very foundation was built on the backs of those very slaves. Also the entirety of Africa probably becomes an extension of Wakanda in one form or another
Uhmmm.... I'm not sure if much changes? Mutants ended up facing pretty blatant racism. I think the universe remains unchanged. And actually wasn't there a few early comics with BP taking down KKK members?
>Uhmmm.... I'm not sure if much changes? Mutants ended up facing pretty blatant racism.
Not in Wakanda.
>And actually wasn't there a few early comics with BP taking down KKK members?
What does this have to do with slavery? Are you confusing your time frames?
Africa is a continent, not the world. Wakanda is isolationist. They could have just colonised with permission, African countries.
The enslavement of Africans was global in impact. The various Kingdoms and Empires were at war with each other. The prisoners of war were the captives sold to Europeans. Wakanda would have been perceived as an invading force. I don't see anything less than violence being used to colonize their neighbors. But would love a what if story about that period...
Do you mean invade America and stop slavery or prevent slaves being taken from Africa?
If the first, that starts a war between the US (the slave owning states at least) and Wakanda. Maybe we get a United States of Africa with Wakanda as the capital?
I think the second option they could have accomplished.
Either leads to frosty relations between the US and Africa/Wakanda likely to this day.
The only way to do that would be to unite the disparate tribes under one rule… ie- become an empire that outlaws slavery.
Definitely. I think it involves arming other African nations but it can be done and I think they'd be successful in preventing the slave trade from continuing. Now, getting those weapons back, that's interesting. They'd have to up their tech game.
In Ancient Egypt, there are references to a wealthy kingdom known as the land of Punt. We know that this land was a trading partner with the Egyptians, but to this day modern scholars have no idea as to Where it is. It is most commonly believed that Punt was located somewhere to Egypt's south in eastern Africa.
In the MCU, Wakanda is a landlocked nation located between Kenya and Uganda. This puts them in the general region of Lake Victoria which feeds directly into the same Nile river that Egypt has built its entire civilization around. So, had Egyptian mariners had sailed all the way up the Nile to its upper tributaries, they would have encountered quite a rich trading partner indeed.
If Egypt did have this relationship with Wakanda, then that would explain how both countries had eventually come to worship Bast despite her not being on the Enead council as seen in moon knight. She wasn't "with" the rest of the gods as she was a foreign transplant who's worship was brought about through trade with Wakanda.
This is a pretty decent theory. But sailing up the nile is not correct. Famously finding the source of the Nile was challenging to even modern explorers due to cataracts, tsetse flies and thick jungle.
It is more likely that the Wakandans came down the Nile.
Western media constantly underewtimates the size of the African continent. The Nile doesnt come close to Lake Victoria. It is more likely that Namor used a river like the Congo for his approach based on the Wakandan ecology and Pacific proximity. That doesnt preclude them being the mythical land of Punt though. And it might be fun to learb that a prominent family in the Merchant tribe went by T'Punt.
I thought this was intentional? Why else would Bast be part of Wakandan lore?
Re BP 2: How did Namor expect to attack a land-locked country like Wakanda en masse? Sure he could swim up a river alone when he had the stand-off with the council, but he's not going to be able to bring an army in like that.
To that point I will say too things
1: His first attack didn't include that many soldiers. From the clip I saw, only 17 (including Namor himself) actually were on screen. If we're generous, we can say they were 50. Given how huge the Nile is and how these warriors have managed to hide from humanity for 500 years, I would not be surprised if they could smuggle themselves through the Nile all the way to Lake Victoria and eventually Wakanda.
2: Namor's planned second attack was not going to care about stealth. Remember that Namor wanted to declare war on the entire surface world. If his boasts of having as many soldiers as Wakanda has blades of grass was even 1% true then they probably wouldn't have much trouble carving a warpath from Egypt all the way down to Wakanda. Or rather, he thinks he wouldn't have much trouble. Namor does have an ego to him and absolutely could be biting off more than he could chew.
Love it.
What is Wakanda's history in Marvel Comics
Key Considerations about Wakanda's History in Marvel Comics:
Introduction: Wakanda first appeared in Fantastic Four #52 in July 1966, created by writer Stan Lee and artist Jack Kirby. It is depicted as a technologically advanced African nation.
Black Panther: The nation is most famously associated with T'Challa, the Black Panther, who became the first black superhero in mainstream American comics. T'Challa is both the king of Wakanda and its protector.
Vibranium: Wakanda is known for its vast reserves of vibranium, a rare and powerful metal that absorbs vibrations and is crucial to the nation's advanced technology and economy.
Cultural Significance: Wakanda is portrayed as a rich and diverse culture with its own traditions, languages, and social structures. It often serves as a counter-narrative to stereotypical depictions of Africa in media.
Political Landscape: The history of Wakanda includes various political struggles, including challenges from rival tribes, foreign invaders, and internal conflicts. The nation has also been involved in broader Marvel storylines, including the Avengers and the Secret Wars.
Modern Representation: In recent years, especially with the success of the Black Panther film, Wakanda has gained significant attention for its representation of African culture and as a symbol of empowerment.
Takeaways:
Recommendation: If you're interested in exploring Wakanda's history further, consider reading the Black Panther comic series by Ta-Nehisi Coates, which delves deeply into the nation's politics, culture, and T'Challa's character development.
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