TL;DR
Using the Cyclops
The Cyclops is a popular choice for navigating areas inhabited by the Sea Dragon Leviathan. When using the Cyclops, it's recommended to cut the engine when you spot the leviathan on your radar to avoid detection [1:2]. If the Sea Dragon becomes aggressive, activating the shield generator can help protect your vessel
[3:3]. The thermal charger is highly recommended as it makes you nearly invincible in the lava zone
[1:2].
Prawn Suit Maneuvers
For those using the Prawn Suit, grappling past the Sea Dragon is an effective strategy. Many players report successfully bypassing the leviathan without being attacked [1:4]
[3:2]. Staying close to the bottom of the ocean floor can also minimize encounters
[3:8]. It's advised to carry a repair tool in case of damage
[1:2].
General Avoidance Techniques
Regardless of your vehicle, maintaining a wide berth from the Sea Dragon is crucial. If you see or hear it, move in the opposite direction quickly, as most creatures de-aggro when you run away [1:5]
[2:1]. The Sea Dragon is relatively slow, so consistent movement can help you evade it
[1:6].
Additional Tips
Some players suggest using distractions or luring other creatures to deal with leviathans, although this mechanic isn't officially supported [5:1]. While killing leviathans isn't possible, understanding their behavior and using the environment creatively can aid in avoiding them
[5:4].
I'm going into the lava zone, and I'm looking for advice on how to deal with sea dragons. Thanks in advance.
If in Cyclops, cut the engine when you see it on your radar. Start back up when it leaves. If it becomes aggro hit the shields. It's highly recommended to have the thermal charger. You're pretty invincible with it down there since the lava lakes and lower sections are hot.
If in Prawn, you might get snacked on a few times. Try to avoid it but bring a repair gun just in case.
There isn't much to it. Basically, if in Cyclops be on the defense and stealth side. If in Prawn navigate around it but be prepared to take some hits.
Avoid it if you use the cyclops and if you only use a prawn the sea dragon is pretty harmless to you but you should watch out for warpers if they tp you in the wrong moment the sea dragon might 1 shot you
If you see it, stay away from it, if you hear it, go the other way, if it sees you, haul ass away from it. Most simplified way to not have to deal with them.
Really? I literally just grapple right by them and I'm good, I've gone by them like 8 times now and they haven't even attacked me once lol
Just keep moving they are very very slow
If you're in a cyclops you can ignore it. If you get annoyed with it attacking you just cut the engines for a minute and let it wander off. Takes forever for a sea dragon to destroy a cyclops.
If you're in a prawn you can mostly ignore it, just be mindful of crevices you can use to get away from it, assuming it doesn't decide to clip through and get you anyway. Or if your cyclops is nearby just go dock in that. Grapple helps a lot.
If you're in neither, you better have access to a stasis rifle or a crevice.
But you're going to find that they're extremely dumb and not worth worrying about.
I finally have a Prawn suit depth module two, I can now access the lava zone. But the sea dragon leviathan is a big threat. I need to get Kyanite... But I am too afraid of the Seadragon but I am Intimidated by the sea dragon leviathan. I need a few tips how I can avoid it so please help me.
Kyanite spawns above the sea dragon area
I’m at the lost river so plz don’t spoil the game.
It does?
It says spoiler next to the title why would you click it if you dont want to be spoiled?
Personally I just tried to keep a wide berth and didnt get hit more than twice.
Even if he comes close, you can just zip away in the other direction. Most creatures de-aggro quickly when you just run
I'm in my prawn suit and want to get into the alien thermal plant. There is a sea dragon in my way and I'm wondering if anyone has tips for that
I just walk/jump past it and it rarely attacks me. At most it fires some fireballs at me which really don’t do that much damage. It’s one legit attacked me once.
Yeah. Now I need to get a cyclops past him into the lava lakes
Much easier with the Cyclops - stay low, use shield generator, remember they ignore it when its engines are offline.
For me I kept yelling at it to shut up and grappled past it
I cruised past it with the cyclops. It only ever attacked me once, I was in the prawn suit and got waaaay too close to it on accident.
Yeah. I went to the lava lakes but forgot the freaking blue tablet in my storage at my base. I skipped the dragons by simply quitting back to my previous save before my encounter with them
I did that with purple tablets
I know im late but kill it.
I killed the ghost in the bone fields with little difficulty (but annoying at most). Just use rifle and thermoblade and aim for the head. They dont respawn to my knowledge.
Apparently they are immune to the thermoblade, so not the best piece of advice.
Stay close to the bottom as much as possible
Ok. That's kinda easy with a prawn suit
Still, arm up with a missile or two, just in case.
... MORE LEGS!!!
I couldn't find a post on this so I am just starting here. I am also not an animator and can only imagine the expensive-ness. But damn that design is SO WORTH IT to me!!
Intro:
I have been thinking for a while about the design of the shadow leviathan, and the nature of Subnautica Zero, and why I was considering the Shadow Leviathan as a nuisance - after all, all I actually needed was a perimeter defense system to get rid of one biting my seatruck.
In many many previous YouTube videos BZ has been critcized, compared etc. I actually really liked the tightness of several places, as they gave so little space to hide - it played more to the idea of claustrophobic corners one couldn't escape.
Problem? I think that the Shadow Leviathan indeed doesn't fit that space - it gives the vibes of reapers and ghost leviathans, which are big beasts that rely on on their bodily sway to move forward.
In my eyes, if you are in a cave, moving through legs is an evolutionarily logical step, and this can be seen by the shadow leviathan - but why did it undevelop in it's regions? What if it had legs like centipedes, and you can occasionally see it relaxing from its swimming motion, only to flexibly walk or crawl through the tight caves, bending it's snake-/centipede-like body???
It would still make sense to have the arrow-head or it's eel-like design. But to think of it so unnaturally crawling your way (with the clacking of these legs), then, with a powerful motion, LIFT itself off the corner to approach you like in the game?!
Damn. That's scary to me.
What do you think? Could this have fixed the Shadow Leviathan for you?
Yeah, it's a cool concept. Still just a nuisance if you have the perimeter defense. But way better if it crawled.
True. The presence of it wouldn't have solved that issue - the perimeter defense might need something like a bigger cooldown or so to solve this feeling of invincibility without making the pds actually unrewarding
Oh god if it started out by crawling around on the floor like the lobster guys and then you find out it can SWIM AT YOU I'd have shat bricks
THANK YOU! That's how I felt and once I got this idea I really felt like sharing - glad the image spooked you :D
Although the Sn2 discord chat has made it clear that the dev team won’t be making leviathans killable, I still believe that it would be a great idea for leviathans to be killed by other leviathan species as well as leviathans within the same species. This would not only create tight situations where you’re caught in between two leviathans fighting for territory, but also a new way to deal with leviathans, being that you could lure a larger leviathan to the smaller leviathan you want to be delt with, and the smaller would be killed and never bother you in that area again. This strategy can be seen in Ark (which I know is much different than Subnautica in a myriad of ways), but would still be pretty applicable to Subnautica in my opinion if allowed.
Some people may say that this makes dealing with leviathans “too easy” and “not a realistic feature in a survival game” if you can just lure an apex leviathan to a smaller one, however I believe that the process of “luring” the leviathan would still be a high risk situation (as the larger leviathan could easily eat you or simply replace the leviathan in the area you want leviathan free), is still very applicable to a survival game. For instance, luring sea dragon to kill a reaper leviathan, the reaper leviathan would be delt with but you still have the risk of the sea dragon prowling around.
Imagine the situation on our world: There’s a shark that keeps on stopping you from exploring this sunken shipwreck that you need to go to. So, you lure a killer whale over (which could also kill you) to deal with the shark. The shark is killed by the killer whale, so you’re able to loot the wreck while the killer whale is feeding on the shark remains, and then stealthily leave the area.
Although the luring mechanic may be a bit too “off the deep end” for Sn2, i believe that the ability to encounter leviathan fights would be a quite cool feature.
The idea of using a leviathan to distract a leviathan has a lot of cool potential
I think a mechanic like this would be awesome for injuring or distracting leviathans, but tbh I agree with the devs on not killing them.
From what we've seen it looks like there's a squid type leviathan that can grab small fast vehicles and stuff, so being able to lure a leviathan over to distract it would be super fun.
They're making the leviathans indestructible?
I dont like to actively get rid of them but damn that's kinda odd
I get why, but I still want some kind of temporary solution or deterrent for them, rather not have a constant looming threat of just sitting and waiting to be eaten
I always wanted to see a Sea Dragon come up and take a Reaper. To see parts of the ecosystem in action.
Like a shark with a seal. As an introduction seeing that stuff would be neat to watch. We see the Reapers take the various smaller organisms out there but a scripted “reaper hunt” involving a sea Dragon would be neat to watch.
I would honestly love an area overrun with a jellyfish swarm like a cave entrance you have to lure a creature to to get access
i absolutely dont disagree. this kinda stuff gets the team really excited. hopefully we can impress in a future EA release. ty for your thoughts!
Edit: before anything else, no, I'm not talking about it's design being scary. Half of the comment section didn't seem to read my text and only assume I'm talking about the design. When it comes to design, Reaper and Ghost obviously won. That's now why I said the Sea dragon is "scary". Pls read before you comment.
At least in my playthrough, I found Sea dragon to be the most intimidating than the others.
I mean, I was never once killed by any other leviathan. Reaper? He just glazed me and then I can easily heal and get back to doing the last thing I did. I never even got it to attack me when I was in my seamoth. Even though I went to the mountains and crash zone multiple times. Didn't even get to use my parameter defense.
Same goes with Ghost. Especially after I have the reinforce dice suit, his bite barely tickles. And he just starts screaming and bump me then leave. I'd build a base right next to one on the boneyard. And then after a few days, suddenly the ghost multiply, and now there's 2 of them next to my base. I'm not gonna question it, they're my neighbors now.
As for the Sea dragon? He is the first leviathan that actually killed me during my entire playthrough. And he did 3 times. One when I was picking up acid mushrooms in the lava zone, second when I was leaving my prawn suit momentarily because I tried to repair it, and third when I was trying to get rid of some lava larvae from my cyclop. He also won't stop attacking my cyclop once, forcing me to use all my power for the cyclop shield. Thankfully I have the thermo upgrade and I brought plenty of extra power cells to replace.
Because of this, Sea dragons are the only leviathan I'm genuinely afraid of. None of the other leviathans manage to kill me even once, best they did is eradicate half of my health, which I immediately replenish since I always carry a medkit everywhere. Sea dragons are jerks, everything else are cuddly pets.
I'm "scared" of them not because of their design, but because they're the only leviathan that can actually kill me. The other ones just suck at being a threat
I found it super easy to avoid them. Reapers on the other hand pop up all over the place when you're exploring
I'm scared of them because they ended two 100% hardcore runs I was doing where I was literately 2 databank entries and the rocket away from completing and they killed me due to buggy fireball oneshots. I have over 200 hours and they are one of the only two mobs I consider genuine threats (warpers are the others)
Warpers have never done any damage to me. I struggle with the crab squids when I'm going to the degassi base. It doesn't seem to matter where I park. They're attacking my seamoth.
I consider warpers problems because they can teleport you out of a prawn suit. Prawn suits are borderline indestructible so even if you get EMPed by a crab squid you can usually just wait it out. While warpers leave you completely vulnerable (also ranged attacks)
Crabsquids are aggressive towards lights. Turn off the headlights and park a moderate distance from them, they'll leave the seamoth be.
It was my most recent hard-core game. I popped out by Cyclops and got insta killed by the dragon...
Rip to your hardcore save. And yeah, the Sea dragon is genuinely the only leviathan that ever succeeded in actually killing me. The others just suck at being a threat lol
Also turns like the titanic, just move out of its way and you have 5 business days to conduct your business before its back. Warpers and lava lizards are far more problematic enemies in the lava zone because they are on you nonstop even if not as damaging.
Had a warper teleport me out of my prawn directly into the dragon's mouth last playthrough. Good times... (this is why I save frequently in the lava zones)
Weirdly enough I'm more afraid of the reapers. I found then to be far more dangerous and scarier than the sea dragons.
It's as if everything, and I mean literally everything, about them is designed to strike fear! Also, since you're more likely to encounter them early on in the game, you're less prepared to confront them.
As soon as I get the Prawn Suit with the drill bit and grapple arms, it's over for anything over 10ft in length!
I’m thinking about going to the inactive lava zone soon and I was wondering if anyone has any tips on how to not get manhandled by the sea dragons.
Grapple arm on prawn suit, drill on the other, and it's rodeo time baby!
If you want go pacifist, follow the other comments' advice.
Wait you can grapple leviathans?!
You can grapple on to any creature, even as small as a peeper. With something smaller than the prawn, it'll pull it towards you. With a leviathan, it'll pull you towards it. My friends kills leviathans by just grappling on and holding down the drill arm.
Slow speed, silent running, sonar upgrade for keeping tabs on the ones nearby. Shut engines off if they get too close. If one gets close to the front viewport, hide elsewhere in the cyclops. It can and will try to attack you if it can see you inside the cyclops.
I'm at the same point now. Made a sweet lil base in the Junction area. Don't wanna lose my cyclops but the tips here seem good.
Cyclops, speed set to low, turn engine off if one gets uncomfortably close �� sorted.
Honestly I just go in with the cyclops like normal, sea dragons seem to be a bit brainless especially the active lava zone, that one likes to swim through walls
I've completed both games and I've had very few problems with hostile leviathans except for the one time I went into the void on purpose.
I knew how to get into the aurora without encountering the reapers from this sub, and while the juvenile ghosts at the lost river entrances are unavoidable, they don't do that much damage to the prawn/cyclops and lose interest in you pretty fast even within a small radius. Same goes for the sea dragon, and once it's gone, you can repair your vehicle.
In BZ, you have nothing to fear as soon as you get the perimeter defense upgrade, and even before then, you can repair your seatruck after each attack, since none of them can one shot it.
I was a bit scared to play SN because of them, but they turned out to be more of a nuisance than scary. Was your experience the same?
Juvenile ghosts in the lost river are avoidable. You don’t need to aggro any leviathans in subnautica.
I know you can avoid the northern blood kelp one by sticking to the left wall, but what about the other ones?
The one by the Gargantuan Leviathan Skeleton doesn’t agro past it. If you come in by the Blood Kelp Trench you drive past it and can see it, you unless you go inside that skeleton you won’t get into it’s agro range.
That said, Dragon turf is unavoidable, so you gotta be careful around them.
You don’t need to encounter the other ones.
I recently started below zero and the Chelicerates are much better at sneaking up on me than reapers, I saw my first one 30 feet away after I looked the other direction for a bit and it grabbed my seatruck. Got away fine and repaired. Second time, one surprised me while I was in a crevice and I barely managed to back into the narrow entrance before it got to me. Kind of looked like a movie with it trying to get in.
Agreed! The shadow leviathans in the crystal caves scares the living daylights out of me, but that seatruck perimeter defense upgrade pulled through!
The chelicerates on the other hand are something you either look for, or run from (after they sneak up on you snow stalker style).
I was terrified of the reapers when I first played Subnautica and still found them frightening (though avoidable) on later playthroughs. But for some reason I never had an issue with the Chelicerates even when first encountering them. I don't think they even registered as a leviathan to me - they are a bit smaller than a reaper and I mentally filed them closer to an ampeel - an annoyance but something that you could avoid fairly easily if you wanted to.
I beat the entirety of the original game without a single reaper ever grabbing my ship, I saw a few of them but they left me alone when I did see them. The other game tho which I’m currently playing I was driving my sea truck from delta station to Marguerites island and one of those shrimp leviathans grabbed me randomly.
I used to be scared of them, now they just piss me off and I jump out and start knifing them.
With or without the stasis rifle?
Both. But usually without the rifle, tbh.
All leviathans were not an issue in both games except for my first and last encounter with a leviathan in SN. First was a jumpscare and last was an encounter with the Sea Dragon on my hardcore run that left my Cyclops in perpetual flames. Everytime I left to fix the ship, Sea Dragon was always there. No Prawn Suit because it was destroyed by Sea Dragon when I attempted to get away with the same struggle of unable to fix because of the large sea puppy.
I'm just waaayyy to scared to explore those places when they are around
I've heard that you can use the propulsion cannon (propulsion cannon attachment on prawn aswell) so if you want to yeet it you could use the statis rifle at its head and yeet it (at its head) away
Sadly all big boys have way too big of a healthbar for any damage you can deal in this game. Drill or knife, it will require you a very long time, a lot of heals and repairs, and a lot of patience to kill any of them. Evasion is the only realistic way.
Prawn suit and about fifteen minutes is all you need. They aren't that bad.
Console commands: instagib, you will one shot everything and everything will one shot you
Yea
those things are the least scary things in the game. I am fucking terrified of the ghost leviathans but the sea dragons just wander in a circle and barely do anything. the shadow leviathan in below zero is WAY more scary.
killing them is out of the question because i am actually afraid of these bozos, any tips on how to get around them? im primarily in my prawn suit down in the ILZ.
EDIT: i just beat the game
took me 6 years
So you have your prawn suit. Have you upgraded the thrusters? If so, go in a straight line as fast as that suit will allow you.
Is it elegant? No. Is it cowardly? Possibly. But that's how I've done it every time.
They do have a bitting animation and it can f#king clip you out of the map
yeah thankfully i only had close calls where i wouldve gotten peppered with fireballs if i was a second too late into getting into lava castle / prison
Keep moving, they are less of a problem to me than literal bonesharks
Go around them
how?
or is are they just blind as hell
if one does see me do i just run away
They won't grab you. Just keep moving.
Get in your prawn and just go fast. Wait for an opening when it goes away and then grapple jump your way to where you want to go. Try to stay close to the ground so it's less likely to spot you. Beware that they can and will phase through solid rock sometimes so stay away from the sides of the lava chambers because if they're in the next one over and hear you it will just go through the wall lol
How to avoid the sea dragon leviathan in subnautica
Key Considerations for Avoiding the Sea Dragon Leviathan in Subnautica:
Know Its Habitat: The Sea Dragon Leviathan primarily resides in the Inactive Lava Zone and Lost River. Avoid venturing into these areas unless necessary.
Stay Quiet: The Sea Dragon is sensitive to noise. Move slowly and avoid using vehicles that produce loud sounds, like the Cyclops or Prawn Suit, when near its territory.
Use Stealth: If you must explore near its habitat, consider using the Cloaking Device on your Seamoth (if equipped) to avoid detection.
Keep Distance: If you encounter a Sea Dragon, maintain a safe distance. They can be aggressive and deal significant damage if they attack.
Plan Your Routes: Familiarize yourself with the map and plan your routes to avoid areas where the Sea Dragon is known to roam. Use beacons to mark safe paths.
Emergency Escape: Always have an escape plan. If you spot a Sea Dragon, be ready to retreat quickly to a safe area or your base.
Takeaway: The best strategy is to avoid the Sea Dragon Leviathan's territory altogether. If you must enter its domain, use stealth and keep your distance to minimize encounters.
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