TL;DR Focus on mastering technique, engage your whole body in the shot, and consider strength training for supplementary benefits.
Technique Mastery
The consensus across discussions is that shot power in hockey is primarily about technique rather than brute strength. Practicing correct shooting technique regularly can significantly improve your shot power [1:3]
[2:2]. Techniques such as ensuring proper weight transfer, engaging your core, and using your stick's flex effectively are crucial
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[5:5].
Full Body Engagement
A powerful shot involves the entire body, not just the arms or upper body. Establishing a strong base with bent knees and a wider stance helps transfer more weight into the shot [5:1]. Engaging your legs and core during the shot can enhance power considerably
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[3:6].
Strength Training
While technique is paramount, incorporating strength training can complement your efforts. Exercises like weighted pull-ups, bench presses, and wrist rolls can build the necessary muscle groups used in shooting [2:1]
[3:3]. It's important to focus on exercises that mimic the movements involved in shooting to ensure functional strength gains
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Practice and Feedback
Regular practice is essential, even if you can't shoot pucks every day. Maximizing limited practice time by focusing on specific shots and recording yourself for feedback can be beneficial [3:4]. Watching professional players and analyzing their techniques can also provide valuable insights
[4:2].
Equipment Considerations
Choosing the right stick flex can impact your shot power. A lower flex may help you better utilize the stick's whip, especially for wrist and snap shots [3:7]
[5:5]. However, it's important to find a balance that suits your shooting style and strength
[4:11].
I’m 16 years old and I feel like compared to my team mates I just have such a weak shot and it’s so slow. I’ve been trying to work on flexing my stick and really getting into my shot. Are there any tips or exercises I can do to really focus on my shot power?
Either go to the gym and do some fly chest lifts and/or get some weighted pucks to build some strength.
It’s really just a technique and muscle memory thing not a strength thing, let the stick do the work.
Time is better spent working on correct technique than hitting the gym. Get a shooting pad and net at your house, practice every day and you will get there. Many of the best/hardest shooter I know have next to no muscle definition.
I’ve seen a bunch of posts here recently asking about shot power and how to get a better shot. I personally think I know a bit about the subject after years of training and sports science research. So here’s a simple guide on how to get a better shot. I will also do one for skating faster because I see a lot of those too.
There are five main points on the force/velocity curve but there are only three ones that we have to focus on. That is force, power, and velocity.
Force is max strength, one rep max stuff. Velocity is max speed, moving as fast as possible. And power, which is a mix of the both, moving moderate weight as fast as possible.
For force, there is a lot of discussion about the most “optimal” exercises, but the main two that never fail are the barbell bench press and the weighted pull-up. Working on these will give you insane amounts of raw strength that can be translated into shot power very easily. Aim to bench around 1.25 times your body weight for 4 reps, and then aim to do around 4 pull-ups with around 45lbs. These are just ball parks but I found that the results slow down after reaching those.
For power, the speed bench and speed pull-ups are the best. For speed bench, do 3-8 sets of 3 reps with 60% of your one rep max as fast as you can. For speed pull-ups you can do band assisted pull-ups as fast as you can, but usually a lighter band so it’s not too fast.
For velocity, shooting pucks is the only thing you’ll have to do for this part of the curve. Usually I aim for 2000 shots per week. I break it into 4 sessions of 500 shots. For each session, pick 2-4 different shots to work on and shoot 100-250 shots of each of the styles (ex. 500 total shots, 100 slapshots, 200 off leg snap shots, 200 wrist shots). This will not only work on velocity, but it will also translate your gym strength and power into shot power.
Try to do 2 of each per week. I usually do power and shooting on mondays and thursdays, and force and shooting on tuesdays and fridays.
Extra notes to mention: Technique is a big factor, I am just assuming that you have good enough form to the point where improving technique won’t make much of a difference. If you don’t, work on it. The next thing is yes, of course there are more “optimal” ways to increase shot power. But doing this method is the most simple and easy to grasp method for the large majority of people. And keeping it simple is never a bad thing, benching and pull-ups are popular for a reason, they’re extremely effective compound movements. The last note is core strength. Core training is mandatory and should be done often. I didn’t include it because it is more apart of the main training program and is used also in hitting and skating, so I didn’t find it fair to label it as just shot power. But the paloff press, the suitcase carry, and the deadbug are my favourites.
Disclaimer: This is just my method and feel that people would benefit from this. I personally saw the best shot power results of my life doing this. I went from a 75 flex to a 105 flex in one summer doing this because of how much more powerful I got.
Hope this helps.
If you want a more powerful shot, work on technique. As someone with years of bodybuilding experience, I can agree that brute strength does help. But I know guys half my size who can't even lift close to what I can (in weight or as a % of bodyweight) and they can shoot just as hard because their technique is better.
exactly, technique is mandatory, but there is a certain level of technique that improving it won’t do much. i put a disclaimer about this but i wrote so much that it’d be easy to gloss over.
This wouldn’t work well for most women btw. Not too many of us can do our body weight on bench or weighted pull ups. I have found that technique mastery will get people much further than brute strength alone.
Question though, how do you actually count your shots? That’s a lot of shooting. I find my arms really fatigued after about 100 shots
For women, yea it’s a bit different, me and my ex used to train together and she just did banded pull-ups and lighter weight on bench. the goals would be around half of the male goals because of the around 50% natural strength difference. And yes technique is definitely the most important part.
For shooting. I have a batch of 50 pucks. i just count my rounds of shooting. I usually just do 10 rounds.
And i guess it’s one of those things that you initially fight though but your body adapts over time. i used to be exhausted after 100, but now, just last week actually, i shot around 1000.
i’d also say that the natural strength difference between men and women could be the reason as well because the puck would relatively be twice the weight for you guys. I’d be extremely tired after shooting 100 orange pucks.
Hmm never considered the puck weight. I think it’s light enough that it’s likely a negligible difference. Like as an example, perhaps, on average, both sexes can curl a 2.5lbs for the same amount of reps (i have no idea). But who knows, testosterone gives y’all super strength for next to free.
I’ve considered going crazy on shooting reps but i don’t know if i have the actual motivation 😂
am i wrong? it seems to work
I responded to another thread. There’s more than doing bench press, pull-ups, and core lol. I get the vibe you’re probably 17-18 years old and saw some growth in your game.
105 flex, at what height and bodyweight?
i was at 6’2 200 at 75 flex. now i’m 6’2 190 at 105 flex.
Max POWER
I don’t know enough to dispute what OP is saying. Do you feel like this is off?
As someone who just finished a kinesiology degree and understands the force-velocity curve, yes.
The bench press and and weighted pull-ups argument to increase force is weird when power in a shot is generated in the legs. Additionally, increase force for what? It’s generally used.
Velocity - “sorry to disappoint, but I feel” is already a red flag.
I don’t need to go through the rest of the post to show it’s based on intuition.
A shot in hockey is a full body movement, not based on your upper body.
Work the upper body, sure, you’ll see some benefits, but technique is key.
OP also adds a disclaimer at the end saying this is what works for them. That’s not based on sports science as they mention at the beginning.
Someone just made a post and said “this is what I think”.
I don’t have the luxury of being able to shoot pucks every single day so I was wondering is there any sort of work out that I can do to increase shot power?
I’m looking for the best way to learn to skate without skating every single day.
Roller blades duh
I was poking fun at you because the only way to get better at something is practicing it, there’s no other way around it or any shortcuts. You can build up the arm strength but you won’t get the proper form and technique any other way than practicing shooting. Same way as I could not get the skating technique.
You don't get it, (s)he's saying that it sounds silly. There's no better way to get better than to practice.
I know nothing about you so keep that in mind, but if you know how to shoot and are fairly strong the weak link can often be grip strength, I would suggest doing some wrist rolls and heavy weight farmers walks. If you upper body isn't too strong, Cuban press is a good exercise for shooting muscles.
I would focus on making sure you are maximizing the limited practice time you do have. The best way to do that would be to hire a coach to work with you.
If that's not feasible, then you need to be very deliberate about the time you do get when you're able to shoot pucks. Pick one specific skill you want to work on (snap shot, wrist shot, slap shot, backhand, etc), lookup youtube videos that teach you techniques and drills. Record yourself so you can look back and see what you're doing wrong. Post the videos here for free tips and advice.
I still use wood sticks. Should I upgrade ?
Probably, yeah. You should also make sure you get a stick with a low enough flex for you to actually flex when you shoot. Depending on your size/strength/shooting style. If you mostly take wristshots/snapshots go with a lower flex.
I’d focus on form heavily when practicing and strengthen core/legs via workouts (which you can do daily).
Shot power is about 90% technique, 10% actual strength. So shoot pucks and lift weights. There are no shortcuts.
If you want a good example of a similar shot to yours, watch Kaliyev's goal for the Kings from today's game, the last view of his shot (in slow mo) gives the best example of what I was talking about, see how the puck and blade is in line with the center of his body as he loads the stick up. At the 3:56 mark https://www.dtmts.com/video/cabcXjuwpR0
He’s sweeping the puck from too far back. If he starts his shot further forward with the downward pressure you suggest he will get more power. Op is using more hip rotation than he needs to.
I’ve been playing my whole life. So the muscle memory is there. But learning small adjustments will increase power drastically!
I don't think you're going to get much more power learning new techniques. Your form is pretty spot on. Like others have mentioned, hot the weights a bit. Definitely don't go for a flexier stick. Stiffer is better for more power. But the flex you put in that stick looks just right, so I don't think I'd change much.
If your going to settle on one shot to master, I feel this is going to have the highest success rate at an amateur level. Although me best shot is my slap shot by a wide margin. I’ve played defense my entire “career” so I almost exclusively worked on that.
As a new player, I really like falling down and pushing the puck with my cage. Really adds some oomph lol.
Honestly, I came here to say that I can’t wait to be able to shoot like that! Hope some folks chime in with something helpful!
Thanks! Don’t stop learning. I was actually doing a lesson with a beer league team mate and teaching him things made me wonder what I still have to learn.
Yea, try to shorten the sweep and really drop your wait on the stick just before the point of contact. Pushing you momentum downwards and less forwards should help get more whip on the stick.
It’s hard to describe but if you keep working with that you get feel and start launching lasers.
Thanks for the input. I think I could take weight off trailing foot earlier to increase flex on my stick. And I think my weight transfer could be my leading foot turing away from the net so dramatically. Instead of allowing me to drive the puck forwards, using more of my body.
Form looks good.
Leave the flex as-is and hit the weight room a little, gain some weight and really use your weight on the stick.
If you want a more powerful shot definitely don’t go up in flex go down but then you chance breaking your stick a little easier
Watch where you begin to load the stick, see how the puck is nearly in front of your head (and therefore body) position. At this point you can't use your body to generate any power because you are starting to "reach" for the puck, most of the power can only come from the arms.
Watch this vid of Kessle in slow motion, watch how the puck position is in line with his shoulders as he loads the stick, his body is over the puck in line with his center mass as he loads the stick. Now your power is coming from the body weight shift and rotation with the bottom arm locked enabling the power transfer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztxi3fPQIso
Regardless of who it is and what foot they are shooting off, the principle of where you load the stick and where the puck should be in relation to the body is the same. If you want more power your shot mechanics need to change.
Put your weight onto your inside leg as you shoot
That's one type of shot, but it's much more difficult than a traditional weight transfer.
That was just my recommendation as that’s how I increased my shot power.
You're kind of trying to do a wrist shot and then loft it up with a little snap on the toe.
I'm sure there are other ways but i feel like I use the toe to get the puck to my mid/heel then snap using the flex of the stick more. I feel like it's closer to my body too.
Idk I'm trying to think about how I do something that I don't ever really remember trying to learn because it's been so long. I'm sure YouTube has some videos on it. Good idea wanting to learn and practice it though, it's a good shot to be able to use.
WARNING: Not a coach here.
Agreeing with u/nightastheold, looks more like a wrist shot, but also looks like you're half trying there. You might want to face your target more(both feet facing net), puck should be more at your side and stick hitting a few inches behind it. Arms, especially top hand should also be out in front of your body more, it will allow the top hand to snap back with force and quickness. Need to engage that core and load up on that left leg as well.
I gotta say, as a Dman snapshots are the hardest to defend against. I can see slapshots and wristers from miles away but snapshots, when done right, are quick and deadly. It's like a jab.
Yeah I agree. It’s hard to explain because snap shots happen so quickly, so when trying to explain it I was like uhhhh well how do I do one? Lol. Another thing to add OP is if you can practice shooting on rollerblades do that instead. Though any practice is better than no practice and ice time is best of all. It’s just being stationary you can do all sorts of weird things with your feet that you can’t when trying to balance on blades. It helps teach by taking away places you could be making mistakes. Helps put it in focus more if it makes sense.
Try to get your hands out in front of you, lean on the stick a bit, and use your bottom hand like the fulcrum on a lever as you pull your top hand back. That will allow you to use the flex of the stick for more power Follow through, snap your wrist, and point the tip of the blade at your target.
Wear a Rangers jersey.
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OK, you're mostly missing power from your lack of an athletic approach.
You need to involve your whole body, which means don't start with the posture of a guy looking at his phone while waiting for a taxi. :-)
The posture just before you shoot should be wider, knees bent, strong base. Push your hands forward so your stick leans toward the target more. This should happen naturally from a lower stance.
once you do that, you have two things:
A wider base to transfer more weight. Right now, your weight transfer is weak. You need to really pitch some weight into it, but you'll need a wider stance to do that in balance
Stick forward lean will get you more leverage, let you get a little more flex on the stick, and will then give you a wider arc to push the shot through.
This video discusses wrist shots, but all the advice applies to what you're doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stoBX8do_NU
Note, he is shooting with toes/chest toward the net, which isn't a bad idea, but both kinds of shots are valid types.
I have been playing hockey since I was 12 and I have never really been a powerful shooter. I have good hands and hockey sense (for my level) so I always considered myself more as a playmaker than a shooter. So my question is how do these 17-18 kids that look 150lbs shoot so hard. Is it they use a lower flex? Is it mechanics? For reference Ive always used a 80-90 flex stick.
80-90 flex at 150lbs is probably too stiff, but it mostly comes down to shooting form and weight transfer. If I'm taking a snap shot I've got around half my weight loaded on the stick.
Sorry I should’ve clarified. I’m 30 and 200lbs. I meant like these kids in the nhl/ world juniors who just shoot so hard and so accurate
Mostly just because they train on and off ice basically 24/7 with world class coaches and facilities.
Think of your hands like a clutch and gas pedal. Throw your top and up and snap it back while simultaneously pushing down (activating flex) and out (towards your target) with your bottom hand. Use your hips and keep your feet pointed at your target while shooting. Check out Beer League Bum and iTrain Hockey videos, they’re awesome guys to learn from.
There are a lot of factors that go into a good shot, you don't have to be huge or overly strong to get power. Think golf, lots of skinny people kill the ball, to get the most out of your shot focus on weight transfer and allowing the stick to do it's job by flexing it properly. People are using less stiff sticks as speed and quick shots are more important, not much time to wind up for a huge slapper or telegraph a wrist shot. To get a fast snapshot you almost need to be able to flex your stick with your wrists, so less stiffness.
lower your flex so that you can work on mechanics better. you need to be flexing your stick and nailing the mechanics
The answer to your questions, yes.
Proper mechanics combined with low flex sticks, equals kids ripping the puck no matter their weight.
To put that into perspective, a 6'4 250lb player using an 85 flex stick that "pushes" the puck away instead of snapping it away because they have poor shooting mechanics, will stand out just as much. And that example, I see a lot as a LTP coach. They'll pin their top hand to their body and push it away with their lower hand (#1 mistake) or they'll not use their hips at all and try to wrist everything (#2).
However, the junior program kids (ages 13-18) I have, most have incredible shooting mechanics. A lot of them we work on taking their already established ridiculous shot and transferring it to the next level, doing it while skating or off the drag, changing angles, changing foot positioning etc.
If you're a playmaker and not shooting hard, chances are you're not using your hips well enough or getting good weight transfer. A lot of playmakers are great with their hands because they can flick the puck anywhere. But shooting isn't flicking it.
Watch some YouTube tutorials on snapping the puck away and give it a go on some dry land. If you don't connect with one video, try another. At some point, you'll get the click on how it should feel to truly snap the puck away versus snapping or flicking it away as a playmaker.
Pull the puck closer to your body and further back. It’ll force you to lean into your stick more and result in more power on the shot
What a lot of people don't realize is that being very comfortable on your edges (and being a good skater) help tremendously when it comes to shooting. Balance is a key thing.
A few things that haven't been mentioned yet (not including anything on shooting-in-stride):
Your follow-through; two things:
As someone else mentioned already (and it's worth emphasizing), your top hand is glued to your body - you need to create separation so you can "pull" your top hand in while "pushing" your bottom hand (think of a lever). Bending your knees more will help you with balance, and can help you with power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O19SdqvQgrU (nhl slow-mo shots - a lot of them are in stride but seeing the mechanics are useful here)
I didn’t notice the stuff with my upper body. You’re right tho it’s for sure because of my balance. I’m trying to really increase my one leg balance and edge work but it’s slowly coming.
Off ice I can shoot quite well but still need to practice pushing that top hand off me even more. Thanks for the advice, I’ll really try to pay attention to this
Off ice: try not to throw your weight around while you shoot. That's probably the biggest mistake when people are practicing because you can't do the same thing on the ice.
> your top hand is glued to your body - you need to create separation so you can "pull" your top hand in while "pushing" your bottom hand (think of a lever).
IMO this is the hardest habit to break.
Improve your skating and edge work
In theory this advice could take me to the NHL. Thanks man!
Looks like you’re a little off balance and it’s causing you to throw the puck
Yeah I’m for sure off balance when I’m not stationary. It’s getting better slowly but I’ve only been learning how to skate for one year so it’s been a slow progress.
Any drills in particular to help with the balance aspect or just keep practicing edge work?
Just keep going at it with edge work. Once you feel more comfortable on your skates, you can start tweaking your shot and timing.
Top hand had 0 engagement in the shot. Fix that and the shot gets better.
I’ll try to maybe focus on that when I’m stationary first and see how it goes. Thanks!
I know there has to be many good hockey players in this group. I didn’t play hockey last year because I was focusing more on a job but after missing a year I have wanted to go back so bad. I will be playing U18 rep and i’ve always made the B team always been one of those players i’m looking to greatly excel my hockey skills and make A or AA but don’t know where to start. My shot has always always always been my strong point. As i am able to aim wherever i want whenever and however hard. Last time i played hockey I was 250Lbs 5’9. Now I have leaned out to 5’10 190 lbs. I feel the last season I played many coaches including the A and AA coaches said i was really really fast for my size and was easily the fastest on my team despite being big. But a big toll came with that and that was stamina. I feel that was a big toll and me watching the puck instead of actually fighting for it any tips on how to become a great hockey player would be very much appreciated. Thanks to everyone!
Where can I get that mat you’re shooting on?
I’m sorry for seeing this so late i rarely ever check my notifications! You can get it from pro hockey life i got it a couple years ago and it is still amazing!
On the off season, work on your weaknesses. If your stamina is bad, focus on ways to build up your stamina, so you don't get gassed quickly during games. When you get gassed, your mental & physical side is not as sharp, which leads to errors. You can run, sprint, bike, swim, roller blade or even play roller hockey during the Spring/Summer season. Also, go to open ice hockey stick-time and stick and puck on occasion. I coach roller hockey and a lot of the travel ice hockey players play in the Spring to help with cardio and skills. My roller players have the best silky hands on the ice. Good luck to you next season!
thank you i will use this information it means a lot!
You're welcome and happy to help!
I posted on here asking for some shooting tips and a lot of you guys wanted a video so you could rip apart my form. 30 y.o. 5’10” 165 if it matters. Been playing ~6 months. Really have trouble getting power behind my shots. It’s worse on skates. Any tips on how to get the weight transfer / flexing the stick part down or any drills that will help? Any help appreciated thanks!
First off, move your top hand away from your body, then use a pull/push motion. Your top hand does work on a snapper by pulling in for leverage.
You may want to add on some drawback once you get the leverage motion down. Not very high,but a quick 1 foot or so drawback will give you more power. But again, get the leverage motion down first.
Also play with your bottom hand position. A bit lower you’ll get more power, but you’ll often end up shooting with your hands where they are in the video, so practice both.
This. Also I’d focus more on pulling the top hand than on pushing the bottom one. Makes a huge difference
Here's a couple of videos on wrist and snapshot technique.
Bend your knees, have feet facing towards the puck and spread, bottom hand lower on the stick.
Get some more pucks. One puck wastes some much time
You’re using all arms. Get your hips in on the action.
This. You're all arms and the power comes from using your body (back, legs, hips, core) to load the stick.
Hi everyone. I’m looking for tips on how to add power to my wrist shot. I’m coming from ice hockey and i cannot seem to figure out how to shoot a ball. I either send it a million miles high or it has no power at all.
Any help would be greatly appreciated whether it’s tips or links to some videos.
I've had the same issue. First year playing ball and generate a fraction of the power. Can't seem to figure out a good technique for snap shots. Accuracy is no problem, just very little power.
Some guys in the league have absolute bullets.
ALL ice players do this, haha (in the beginning), it's not just you.
Oh, that, and forgetting that they need to keep moving their feet to get anywhere 😝
Snappers and flick shots work best id say practice ALOT at home
Snappers your new wrister
Shooting a ball is a lot different than shooting a puck. It’s way more of a sort of flicking motion. Keep your shots low and stick to snap shots / slap shots. A wrister with a ball is tough IME. In my experience, most goals are going to come from rebounds and playing close to the net anyway
Practice practice practice, you’re going to have to adjust your shooting to avoid making it sail over the net, but sometimes it just does that
I appreciate all the tips, going to spend some time in front of the net with a few balls tomorrow and see what works!
I found a bit more pressure into the ground, activating the flex of the stick more really helps
so for wrist shots something that I was taught at a younger age was to essentially point the stick blade in the location I want to shoot towards, and while that did reduce power it helped with developing the control of the shot. One thing I would look at it where your release point is off the stick, if its closer to the heel of the blade you're going to have a harder time generating a lot of power from your wrist snap, but it will be lower of a shot, but if you are shooting from a little further out of the toe thats where you can generate more power, but the shots will be a little out of control until you figure out the right amount of wrist curl necessary to generate that power. I would recommend even just shooting at a wall thats maybe 5 feet away and just ripping it and making sure the ball doesn't hit the wall higher than your knee to really find the right technique for you.
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Recommendation: Consider working with a coach or experienced player to analyze your shooting technique. They can provide personalized feedback and drills to help you improve your shot power effectively. Additionally, using video analysis can help you visualize and correct your mechanics.
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