TL;DR
Transducer Mounting
Mounting the transducer is a crucial step in installing a fish finder. Many users recommend using stern saver pads, which allow you to attach the transducer without drilling into your boat [1:1]
[1:3]. This avoids potential leaks and simplifies installation. It’s important to ensure that the transducer is mounted at the correct angle and depth below the hull to function effectively, especially at higher speeds
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Cable Management
Running the transducer cable to the console can be challenging depending on the boat's design [1:2]. Some users suggest using fiberglass poles or a shop vac to help fish the wires through tight spaces
[1:6]. For portable setups, like on inflatable rafts, consider using brackets or handheld sonar units
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Power Supply and Safety
Ensure that the fish finder’s power cord is connected with an in-line fuse of the proper amperage to prevent electrical issues [1:4]. The battery can often be stored under a seat or Velcroed to a secure location
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Alternative Mounting Solutions
For kayaks and smaller boats, using gear tracks and rail mounts can provide flexibility and ease of access [5:1]
[5:4]. Products like Yak Attack Cell Block & Switchblade offer compact solutions that can be quickly installed and removed
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Portable Fish Finders
If you're using a portable fish finder, such as on a rented skiff, you can simply float the transducer behind the boat or use a scupper hole for mounting [2:1]
[2:2]. This method is effective for temporary setups and avoids permanent modifications to the boat.
I’m getting a new boat, it has no tech on it. I’ll have to install my own transducers and graphs that I’m taking off of my old boat. I’m picking the boat up Friday, and am hoping to have it ready by Saturday.
Anyone ever do this themselves? Is it hard? Anything to look out for?
It’s not really difficult as long as you don’t have a problem getting the transducer cable fished up to the console (assuming you have a console) some boats this can be very challenging.
That’s the issue on mine right now, the angle is bad so it doesn’t work when I’m moving
Fairly easy. +1 on the stern saver.
Seal your holes in the transom with 3M 5600 or 4200.
The most important part is making sure the transducer is mounted at the proper angle and depth below the bottom of the hull.
Very easy. I like using the stern saver pads which stick on the transom so you don't have to drill into your boat. It takes a few steps out of it by not needing to seal screw holes.
Mount transducer, run the wire either through or over the transom, attach battery leads, mount your display on the console.
Whole thing should take about 45 minutes.
Make sure the power cord for the fish finder is on a in line fuse with the proper amp fuse in there! You got it
Only thing I’ll add is you’re going to have to play with the angle a bit once you get it in the water if you want it to work well when moving faster than trolling speeds.
If you need to fish some wires the fiber glass poles are what i use if there is no conduits already. Shop vac sucking air can also pull plastic shopping bag with a string pretty well in other places.
Hello,
I just ordered this portable fish finder, I’m sure there are better ones but that’s not what I’m worried about.
I’m renting a small aluminum skiff in my local lake and was wondering what’s the best way to use the transducer on the boat? I’ll be trolling for trout and whatever else bites about 1.5-2mph.
I see this is wired, any suggestions? Thanks.
Funny enough I just was using this on my kayak on my trip to FL, this tiny thing works pretty good, it has a floaty on it so you can just throw it and float it on the water but it has a mount in case you wanna drill into your boat and mount it. I just used my scupper hole and ran the wire thru my kayak and it worked perfectly. I suggest just keeping extra batteries and mounting it in the middle or the front of you boat. Tight lines!
Sweet thanks guess I’ll just toss it behind the boat? Gonna test it out tomorrow on the water.
First you’re gonna need a valid id
Thanks hopefully the id can secure the transducer
i was making a feet finder joke
The raft I am planning on getting is a Bris 12.5, sizable enough for 2-3 people to fish. I want to attach a fish finder onto this and not sure how is the best/safest way to do so. Looking for suggestions from people who have experience or ideas. Thanks!
If the bottom is non metalic, just put the probe inside the boat with a bit of water, the signal goes right through, no need to mount outside… between your feet. Try it!
A handheld sonar unit would probably be best.
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/bass-pro-shops-outboard-motor-transducer-bracket For the transducer and maybe something like this https://store.vexilar.com/genz-blue-box-carrying-case.html for whatever locator you use
Hey all, I just got a few Lightning Strike kayaks and I’m looking to put a fish finder in one of them. There aren’t too many videos on YT with details on how to install them but the ones that are on there generally require some sort of Macguyver-ing to get the transponder fitted properly.
I’m looking for a larger screen model (>=5”) and one in which the transponder will fit and install in the built-in transponder mount cleanly and easily. Any recommendations?
Also, not sure I want to drill any holes at this time - can you just keep the battery in the cargo area in a removable holder/box and use wire ties and adhesive mounts to guide the wires along the inside of the kayak?
Thanks!
Following, I just picked up a lightning strike used, person before was using a transducer arm on the gear track, but I want to see if I can get the garmin striker 4 to fit in the plate area without too much trouble
I'm late to the conversation but I will post pics of my setup. I use the Garmin striker 4 on my Lightning. Works well but I don't need a big screen. I mainly use it for depth.
I’m a bit concerned about seeing the 4” properly - trying to avoid having readers on as much as possible
I have a striker 5 on my moken 10. Mounted and on a yakattack rail mount. I mounted the transducer through one of the scupper holes under my seat using 1inch PVC pipe and zip ties. Holding up well so far. No drilling.
Hello, I recently purchased a garmin striker 4 vivid cv paired with a 10ah nocqua battery. I’m would like recommendations on how you would rig up the entire setup on my kayak.
Where would you put the fish finder itself? I was thinking of putting the mount between the two hatches(I’m not exactly sure what the black portion with screws is used for, maybe it could go there? ). I feel like it might be a little low so I’m willing to buy a ball mount with an extending arm that would go on the tracks.
I was thinking of putting the transducer itself in the first hatch and wiring it through the second hatch, or would it be better just to come out from the first hatch, not sure.
Any advice would be truly helpful, thank you!
I have the exact same kayak and fish finder. I used the Yak Attack Cell Block & Switchblade, a Noqua 10ah battery, and mounted the entire thing to my gear track. As a a bonus, the entire unit comes off in about 30 seconds.
This is the exact setup I have on my Yellowfin. CellBlock w/Switchblade, running a 7" Lowrance Reveal. Have a 10ah Nocqua battery tucked inside the cellblock. It's compact and completely self-contained. Can be installed on the kayak in seconds when I want to use it.
This is the best way on that boat to mount it and keep everything together and organized.
use the gear track for the fish finder, ull have to figure out something for the transducer, battery under your chair maybe
Ram ball track mount.
Captains bridge is an option too
Transducer/fish finder mount on rail. Nocua battery under your seat or Velcro it somewhere. Done.
I made a post last night about mounting the screen to my fish finder and I actually found a spot and I have it mounted now but I now have to figure out how to mount my transducer for it 😭 it’s a garmin striker 4 what can I do here? I honestly though if buying some water proof adhesive strips but idk I want the best and safest way to mount this what can I do? (The kayak is alot larger than it looks I promise lol i took this photo in 0.5)
Duct seal putty inside the hull
http://www.demonick.com/kayak/HMR/Battery.Transducer.Hull/HMR.Transducer.Putty.html
Inside the hull transducer. The plastic won’t affect the image. Air bubbles in the adhesive will, I think people use silicon caulking.
I have a tamarack and I mound in-hull with duct seal. Only down side is your transducer cannot measure water temperature.
Unless you have something in your hull generating heat, you will get temp readings just fine after about an hour on the water.
I have the same setup, works like a charm if you mount it correctly. I found that it was pretty accurate temperature wise after an hour in colder weather.
Huge downside for me, not knowing water temp.
I have mine mounted in-hull and learned not all transducers like it, specially setups on the lower end since they're not powerful enough.
My Hook4 (i think) doesn't pick up fish but doesnt pick up depth.
My Garmin 4 doesn't mind a bit
Wife's Hook 5 Reveal doesn't mind either
In one of the scupper holes, not exposed to logs, sandbars, rocks or launch ramps.
I thought you had a really tiny kayak for a second.
What is this, a kayak for ants?!!!
That or huge hands!!
Flush mount on center console dash, Garmin 73SV Echomap, 10" x 6"
A lot of it depends on how hard it is to run the sonar data cables and power cables. Cutting the hole is the easy part
I got a quote to flush mount a 7" chartplotter, run the cables, and mount the transducer for $750, not including the unit. A second shop quoted me $800.
I spent 30 minutes and just did it myself.
I’ve done quite a few for $200-450 depending on access on the boat. Some are awful and if they want separate battery, charging, diodes, solar charger etc it changes as well. There’s a lot of times they don’t bring everything to do it the way they really want so there’s almost always some materials added as well
Its a very easy process, if there are old cables at least, you just tape rhe new ones to em and pull them thru
I don't think I can do a flush mount myself, at least efficiently. I'd have to order plates and get cut outs, its a lot.
I also don't think you'd be able to flush mount the unit, gauges, and mount the transducer in 30 minutes.
Mine was just a simple rectangle with no gauges.
I would expect around $750-1k for a shop to do it.
Just got gifted my dad’s old boat (1989 sea nymph fishing machine 161) and I’m getting it ready for the water for May. I received a hummingbird helix 9 for Christmas and recently installed that right by the console. It has mega side and mega down imaging. I’ve been seeing a lot of people use bow mounted fish finders for when they troll and can watch the screen as they troll. I wanted to ask what is the benefit of the bow mounted fish finders and ask for a suggestion for a bow mounted fish finder to buy/install and is it worth it? Is a bigger screen more important up front? What are you looking for specifically?
For my console fish finder I’m mostly using it for navigation and to look at structure and find drop offs, humps and submerged structure.
My trolling motor is a minnkota maxxum which does not have ipilot capabilities
The biggest benefit in having a bow mounted graph is you can see it a lot better when you’re on the deck casting. Most people will attach the transducer to the trolling motor so you’re getting depth and side scan directly below you. The size of your screen matters depending on how you want to use your graph. If side scanning is important to you then a bigger graph will have more pixels which helps with resolution. If you just want it for navigation size isn’t that big of a deal.
Congrats on that boat, that’s an awesome heirloom. In my opinion, having a graph where you’re driving (console or tiller) is the most important. Having a second screen on the front casting deck is somewhere between a really nice luxury and a necessity for better boat control. You can get by without it, but it sure is nice to have. If you’re just running 2D/down imaging and side scan, not live scope, it’s hard to say for sure that an extra screen up front is actually going to catch you more fish. It’s more of a comfort thing knowing exactly where your boat is relative to the structure you’re fishing. If you’re going to run some kind of live scope, then don’t listen to me because I’m just running the basic stuff.
One thing you could consider as a more budget solution (I assume this would work with Hummingbird, it can definitely be done with Lowrance units which is what I run because it’s what came on my used boat) is you can look for a used helix screen without a transducer. You can then mount the 2nd screen on the bow, connect to the console screen with a NMEA Ethernet cable, and it will share maps, waypoints, and transducer info between units. So all the sonar and temperature data will be coming off your transom transducer, about 15 feet behind your front deck. When I’ve looked at “like-new” used Lowrance units I’ve seen 9” screens for $800. Pennies in the scheme of musky fishing.
If I were running birds, I think I would probably set up the bow with a 2nd screen + the mega 360 transducer and just hope my wife doesn’t look at the credit card statement that month.
My last 2 cents is if you’re not sure you want to blow the cash on a second unit, as hard as it is, it’s not a bad idea to wait to decide until you’ve been out on that boat fishing a few times. Figure out if you really prefer fishing off the front deck or if you like fishing from somewhere you can still see your console unit. You may find you don’t need a second unit at all, or you may feel like you can’t live without it. Will be hard to know until you’ve spent a day or two on the water making that rig yours.
I’ve always got my boys in the boat with me and one of them inevitably claims the front platform, so I never get to see that screen anyway. I fish off the side of the boat near the console unit and have to control the trolling motor with a remote (which is another way you could spend money to upgrade instead of, or in addition to a 2nd fish finder).
Dude, thanks so much for the detailed reply. I really appreciate it.
I’m still figuring everything out with the fish finders. I have the helix 9 at the console, and I really think in the future I’d like to run something like mega live 1 or 2 or mega 360 from the bow.
Aaaaaand now that hummingbird is trying to phase out the helix models… I’m not sure what to do now. Having the graphs communicate with each other would be pretty awesome.
I guess I’m kind of just at a crossroads with what to do for the bow. I want to have a graph at the bow because that’s where I fish when I’m on the boat. I control the trolling motor and am right there. Is the mega live worth it? Or can I just run a mega side/down at the bow too and scrape by? Also wondering if getting mega live at the bow and then not having that bow graph being able to communicate with the one at the console is a dealbreaker… any thoughts?
I have heard the helix is not compatible with mega live…
I can’t say about the live imaging since I haven’t really used it yet, I’m just running 2D, down imaging, and side scan. I hear a lot of pros and cons about it in podcasts and the like, a lot of guides regard it as a necessary evil when fishing with clients, but when they fish for pleasure they don’t use it.
Another thing I just thought of and forgot to say earlier is that personally, if I were getting hummingbird units I would 100% get one with a touchscreen, so I guess Apex or Solix. In this case you would be able to connect with a NMEA cable to share waypoints and I think GPS, but not transducer/sonar between units so you would need a separate transducer up front and could get whatever you want. Touchscreen is so much easier for adding new waypoints, seems trivial but once you have it you can never go back to clicking buttons to move a cursor.
I guess here is what you have to try to see into the future: Are you planning on keeping this boat indefinitely? Or someday trading it in/selling it and maybe getting a new rig, say in the next 5-10 years? If you’re going to keep this boat more or less forever (or at least 15 years), you’re inevitably going to upgrade the fish finders, so you can start that process by putting a nice new unit on the bow, and then however many years from now put a nice new unit on the console.
If you think you might upgrade to a newer boat at some point, then I would just find a used helix unit for the bow and network it to the existing one on the console. Save the $$$ for the new boat and get new graphs with it.
I’m currently running an old boat (‘88 Alumacraft) with newer graphs that came on it when I bought the boat used. But the graphs were probably just installed when side scan was the hot new tech and live imaging was not prevalent yet. I’ve thought about upgrading the graphs, either buying one of the Lowrance live imaging transducers, or buying a single Garmin live scope with an ice fishing bundle so it’s portable and could be moved from boat to boat. What I’ve decided for the time being is that I don’t go fishing to stare at a screen, so I’ve been deliberately avoiding live imaging. I use side scan to find structure/cover and 2D/down to find bait, and then spend the rest of the time looking at the lake, cause that’s actually what I went out there to do. Someday I’ll probably cave in and blow stacks on new graphs but for now I’m still just grateful to have a boat.
If his eyes are decent a Garmin striker 4 or the Minnkota equivalent would do most everything you need to do at a very affordable price. I use my front graph for depth and water temp, while having a larger graph up front is nicer you really don't need much unless you are doing a lot of deep water fishing using shared waypoints or using live scope. If you're getting a 7"+ get something that can share waypoints with your bow graph and has maps.
You already have a hummingbird so I'd stick with that. I'd get the mega SI helix 8 or 9
The issue is hummingbird is moving away from the helix to the explorer and you can't connect helix to explorer so definitely grab a helix while you can because you can hook the helixes together
People arguing about graphs all the time who's better who's not
If you like the helix you got and don't have any complaints just stick with them.
I’ve had a helix 7 at the back of my tiller for the past 3 years. I can rotate it on my ram mount when I’m at the front but that means I need to turn around to see. This year I’ve been looking for another to network for the front. I’d use it for following contours, depth while I’m up front casting.
Sorry I have no technical knowledge but I just bought a 55lb thrust newport vessel trolling motor and a garmin striker 4 fishfinder for my kayak and got the newport vessels battery box with it hoping I could connect both my trolling motor and fish finder to the same battery but theres only 1 red+ and blue- connection and i dont know if im able to connect 2 red and 2 black wires from my trolling motor and fish finder to these connections.
Trolling motors are quiet to the ears, but their electrical output is "noisy" - they're just a big ol' motor, converting electrical energy into propulsion.
The fish finder, by contrast, is a device that listens really, really well. Listening (and visually displaying what it hears) is its whole purpose. Its electronics are sensitive to electrical noise.
For this reason, you don't want to power both the trolling motor and the fish finder from the same battery. If you run both from the same battery, the noise from the motor pollutes the signal the fish finder hears, and instead of seeing fish on your fish finder, you see the electrical signal from your trolling motor; I've personally been there and done that, and now use two batteries. A 12V, 10Ah (i.e., "12 volts, ten amp hours") battery is a good size for powering most fish finders; you can go as low as 7Ah, but 7Ah may not be enough power to run a fish finder for a full day of fishing.
Hope that helps get you started.
Updated to add: not affiliated, but this blog has some helpful fish finder installation tips
Ok. I hear you. But then why is mounting a transducer to the trolling motor effective?
Because the fishfinder is ok with a small amount of vibration, that won’t affect its performance. Electrical noise that’s visible on the screen as noise in your signal is a common problem that often appears when you run the motor and the fishfinder from the same battery. That’s why I recommended using a separate, dedicated fishfinder battery as a clean power source.
Hope that helps.
Thank you for your in depth explanation I did not think of the electric noise interference, Ill be buying a separate battery now thank you!
I have small dedicated battery just for my fish finder. X it works well. Keep the battery in front for that and bigger battery in back for trolling motor.
The interference is eliminated by using a PWM Pulse Width Modulator.
Ferrite, friend
How do you like them? I'm literally about to buy the same setup for my new kayak. 55lb newport kayak trolling motor with striker 4 bundle kit (so that battery and everything comes together as a kit for the fishfinder).
Yak-power has some systems that you can run a splitter setup from a single battery. Not sure if they have a configuration for fish finder and a trolling motor.
You could power it from the same battery and use a line filter to filter out the electrical noise 👉
Not suggested, gonna need 2 batteries bro.
When I got my second boat after happily selling my first one but then suddenly feeling sad that I didn’t have a boat anymore, it came with a fish finder. My first ever fish finder. Guy I got it from didn’t bother showing me how anything on the boat works, but then again what man wants another man to tell them how anything electronic or mechanical works right? We can figure it out!
Anyway I invite my buddies on a fishing trip cuz I have a new fish finder, duh. It was a 25 foot sleeper so 6 of us fit nice and comfy and off we go. We get about 2 miles of the coast and I flipped on my fish finder. Within a couple minutes we were marking fish with the alarms blaring from the fish finder so I cut off the engines and instructed everyone to chum the waters and let em fly! I even told them we’re in 120 feet of water!
Anyway we have our lines out and not a single bite for about 30 mins. The fish finder stopped showing us fish and I said “well gents, looks like they’re on a diet today” so we reeled em up and decided to go find deeper waters.
15 mins later the alarms are going off again, and same scenario. I cut engines, call out the depth, and tell the boys we gotta get some blood on the deck!…30 mins go by, 6 lines out…nothing.
This repeats about 4 more times before we finally give up and decide to anchor the boat and pour beer into our throats and call it a day.
Fast forward 6 months I find a buyer for the boat since I was moving and didn’t have the driveway for it anymore. Guy comes by to buy it, tours the boat and says “oh hey I had the exact same fish finder on my last boat!…you gotta disable Store Demo mode every time you turn it on, but it’s a great little unit”….
So yea, I took 5 of my buddies fishing with a fish finder marking what I thought were whales….in demo mode.
Or read directions on line
Nonsense. You just push buttons till you get it right.
Moral of the story….even if you’re a guy, it’s okay to ask for directions, unless you like screwing with your friends 😂
One of the reasons I bought my boat was because not only the low hours but because I saw his tracks on the Simrad. Dude literally went to and from these 2 restaurants in his canal system for a few years and not really anywhere else. The boat was mint looking with no wallowed out hardware and everything still tight. Plotter helped prove to me that it wasnt dogged out, abused ect. I will say tho, the Yamaha 225 had 236 hours on it and was 14 years old. It had corrosion issues. Almost positive it was one of those "if you dont use it, you lose it" type things.
how to install a fish finder on a boat
Here are the key steps to install a fish finder on a boat:
Choose the Location:
Mount the Display:
Install the Transducer:
Run the Cables:
Connect the Power:
Test the System:
Important Tips:
Recommendation: If you're unsure about the installation process, consider seeking help from a professional or a knowledgeable friend to ensure everything is set up correctly. Proper installation is crucial for accurate readings and the longevity of your fish finder.
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