TL;DR
Timed Practice and Stamina Building
A key strategy is to simulate exam conditions by practicing with timed question blocks. This helps in building test-taking stamina, which is crucial for maintaining focus throughout the exam [2:4],
[4:3]. Practicing two 60-question blocks back-to-back can help you get accustomed to the length and pace of the exam
[4:3].
Efficient Question Handling
Developing a methodical approach to handling questions can save time. One effective technique is to read the question and answer choices first before diving into the stem. This way, you know what information you're looking for and can quickly eliminate incorrect answers [5:1]. If you find yourself stuck between two options, flag the question and move on, revisiting it later if time permits
[5:1],
[5:2].
Managing Long Abstracts
Long abstracts, especially drug-related ones, can be time-consuming. A practical approach is to leave these for the end of the block, focusing initially on shorter questions [5:4]. When tackling abstracts, concentrate on sub-questions, tables, and conclusions to derive answers without reading the entire text
[5:4].
Relaxation and Mental Preparation
In the days leading up to the exam, it's important to balance study with relaxation. On the day before the test, engage in light review and ensure you do something enjoyable or relaxing to enter the exam refreshed [4:4]. Addressing test anxiety through mental preparation techniques such as deep breathing can also be beneficial
[4:4].
Additional Resources
Consider using resources like UWorld and MKSAP for practice questions, focusing on weak areas identified during your study sessions [2:1],
[3:3]. Listening to audio reviews during commutes can reinforce retention
[2]. Additionally, seeking guidance from peers who have successfully taken the exam can provide reassurance and valuable insights
[4:6].
Need advice on what else I should study. Before people say I’m prepared, I failed twice already and am a horrible test taker. I have a ton of test anxiety and tend to second guess myself when picking an answer but that has gotten better this year.
I’ve finished Uworld twice plus re-did my incorrects. Already went through MKSAP. I made anki out of the questions I got wrong on Uworld and am reviewing that daily but not sure what else I have left to cover.
First pass Uworld: 50-60% correct Second pass Uworld: 76% correct First pass MKSAP: 67%
Should I go through the awesome board review books from 2 years ago? Should I re do Uworld incorrect questions a second time? Should I read board basics and try to make anki cards out of concepts I don’t know there? What would be the highest yield at this point?
I don’t want to take two weeks off and relax completely because I feel it’ll let the knowledge go but at the same time I’m willing to loosen the reins a bit on intense studying.
If I was in your shoes would focus on weak areas. Why do you think you failed? Was it exam timing? Knowledge? Anxiety? Would try to focus on this in the next 2 weeks.
Personally, getting into a test taking pace helps me a lot prior to exam. Had 2 weeks off prior to my boards and all I did is timed questions. Spent minimal time reviewing the answers at that time.
Mostly test anxiety and just blanking on the exam. I'll plan to do more timed blocks closer to the date to get in the zone. Thanks!
When you failed twice, what was your initial UW percentage correct then? Had you completed UW before taking the exam?
Last year, I only completed about 75% of UWorld x1. I didn't have time to get through it all. It was probably in the 60s
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Bro I think you need to work on something other than studying or retaining information.. something more introverted
I’m Pathology but does AMBOSS have questions you can take?
I’ve posted about this before right when I failed and seems like I come to this forum in my lowest moments lol.
To recap: I’ve failed twice already and am taking both ABIM and AOBIM this year. I just had a mtg with my chief who basically said if I don’t pass I’ll probably be fired. Soooo there’s a lot riding on this.
My plan is to finish Uworld (almost done with first pass next week), review the questions, then redo the incorrect. I’ve been listening to ABR on my drives home (some retention there) and doing Uworld Anki (pre made deck I found online). If I have any time left I plan to redo all of Uworld again and then if more time, add MKSAP at the end.
My job only allows me to take 3 weeks off before my first test and maybe a week off before the second. So that’s essentially all I’ve got if they’re going to give it to me.
Any other advice? Anything I should add/change about my study plan? Basically looking for reassurance that what I’m doing and the time I have is enough :/
3 full weeks is enough time, provided you are actually competent in your medical knowledge and are not currently killing patients left and right.
Make a schedule.
Make a schedule with a set number of questions a day, timed but with explanations after. This is your first run through the UWorld question bank.
Then make a schedule where you do the same number of questions as 1 block on the real exam, timed and no explanations until the end. Do these blocks in the morning to simulate your brain to work like in the morning of the exam. Start with 2 blocks a day and build up to 4-5. This is your second run through the UWorld question bank.
If you have any more time after that make another block-based run focused on just all the questions you got wrong. But the key element is you need to run through UWorld at least twice.
Then completely relax the day before the exam and knock it out of the park.
Agree with this. The more questions the better. You can be preparing now as well. On days you work do at least 25-50 questions before work and review them when you’re off.
Don’t try to cram last minute. That isn’t the best way to remember the knowledge.
I also recommend the mksapp question bank. If you can run through it and uworld twice. Even better.
Yeah I am studying now. Work days are hard but I can get through 20 questions. I haven’t reviewed all of them but I’m almost done with one pass through Uworld. I think I will use MKSAP questions as practice test ones on weekends and save Uworld for weekday studying.
Do UW and make sure to finish it and review it. I went through it all once and redid incorrects. I used Boards basics too. Scored just above the mean. My 3rd year ITE was 50th percentile and UW first time through was 60th percentile so fairly accurate. In your week of studying I’d also do some days of 2 blocks of 60 qs to train your test taking stamina.
People are going to give you advice based on how they study but only you know how you best study. In fact that may have been what led you astray in the first place.
For me I learn by taking quizzes over and over so I did a bunch of mksap and other Qbanks and added info from those questions into my board basics book, effectively making it my Bible and the only book I used
My advice the entire exam comes from MKSAP board basics. That one book called the board basic if you actually know the contents of that book inside out I can almost guarantee that there is no question that is going to test any knowledge out that.
Why do you get questions wrong? Is it “I’ve never even heard the phrase renal tubular acidosis before” or is it “I kind of know about RTA but not quite enough to answer this question” or perhaps “Geez, I did know this but blanked out or selected something else in a panic” If 1, find a different job If 2, MKSAP and board basics If 3, see a shrink to discuss test anxiety, ADHD etc
A combination of the last two. Working on both 😬
Need advice on what else I should study. Before people say I’m prepared, I failed twice already and am a horrible test taker. I have a ton of test anxiety and tend to second guess myself when picking an answer but that has gotten better this year.
I’ve finished Uworld twice plus re-did my incorrects. Already went through MKSAP. I made anki out of the questions I got wrong on Uworld and am reviewing that daily but not sure what else I have left to cover.
First pass Uworld: 50-60% correct Second pass Uworld: 76% correct First pass MKSAP: 67%
Should I go through the awesome board review books from 2 years ago? Should I re do Uworld incorrect questions a second time? Should I read board basics and try to make anki cards out of concepts I don’t know there? What would be the highest yield at this point? Do I have a strong chance at passing at this point?
I don’t want to take two weeks off and relax completely because I feel it’ll let the knowledge go but at the same time I’m willing to loosen the reins a bit on intense studying.
How did you have time to study that much?? I have my test in 2 days and I only did Uworld once!!! I’m proud of you and now I’m thinking I’m underprepared
Honestly don't be - I started in January and slowly worked my way through MKSAP and UWorld while working. I had only planned to take 3 weeks dedicated off work then my hospital laid a bunch of people off, including docs, so I essentially ended up with an extra month. Blessing in disguise I suppose
They laid off docs?? I thought we were safe… Also, I have my exam in 2 weeks with similar percentages as you. Tried to do awesome review but couldn’t get through it. I’m just doing uworld and board basics at this point.
I'm also in the same boat. The test anxiety gets worse every time I take an exam. I made a list of topics I was not certain about and run through a few everyday, in addition to doing timed tests of 2nd round of UWorld. I finished at 57% first pass and a few hundred in on round 2 at 77%. I also am going to make sure I hit some high yield stuff regularly as well: thyroid eval and treatment, murmurs, EKGs, hyponatremia, post-transplant infections, syphilis, blood smears, and medications that have odd effects like amiodarone, bactrim, CYPs
omg the endocrine stuff hits me so hard! that's a good idea, I could probably focus on some weaker areas at this point..
sent you pm
Anyone who took the exam, are you available to talk/guide? I am scoring in the 60-70s on uworld, have learnt (need 1 more revision) good chunk - maybe 60% of tables , scoring in the 70-80s now on the incorrects but I feel I know the options, and not always the exact reason why not the other options.. just to change a bit , i did mksap 1 block today and dropped to 58% and started panicking.. please guide
I’m in the same boat as you. I truly think it was a matter of badluck with my previous exam along with being underprepared. I’m convinced that some people get extremely easy exams because I had a buddy who said he did uworld once and studied two weeks before the exam and still passed
I envy those, really don't understand how they do it
Took my entire moral down after finding some vague way of testing and options in mksap.. cardiac mri etc which was not something i saw in uworld
Sadly failed ABIM last year during the start of fellowship. Did a lot of reflection and created a better study plan and now I have the exam in less than two weeks and I'm nervous as hell.
I've completed UW and scored 69% on the first pass, and completed most of the incorrects. I've really used the last two months as a pseudo "dedicated" period, which I did not have last time. I also did the ACP board review course last month which I think helped a lot. I have only used MKSAP as a resource for individual topic review throughout the past few months. Now with a few weeks left I'm doing 60 q blocks on MKSAP just for volume and review. I'm worried about a lot of things but mainly my test stamina with 4 60 question blocks. I'm currently scoring in the high 70s low 80s on MKSAP but these questions are much shorter and seem easier. I'm hoping that's a sign that UW has worked and I'm in a much better position than last year. IIRC the actual exam questions were all a lot shorter than UW and there were a mix of gimmes and very challenging ones.
For reference, last year I did most of UW & that's it, and finished with a 60%. I wasn't doing them timed or untutored, I was half-assing them as I was trying to get settled in a new city/state/hospital/program/etc etc. I feel like I tried to coast through it and I regret that. I'm not a great test taker at baseline and my IM ITEs were all over the place. 5th%, 95th%, then 10th% my pgy3 year.
Any advice for the final two weeks? I'm a big ball of nerves right now.
I feel in a similar boat as a first time test taker (did I meet you last month lol). Scoring a bit lower than you on practice and ITE, but our preparation has been almost identical.
I think at this point it's highest yield information, screening guidelines, numbers you need to memorize and rest, rest rest!
Best of luck, my friend. I don't even know what is considered high yield anymore lol, cardiology maybe? It seems like everything is high yield for this exam. I think the stamina part is really something that sneakily throws me off with standardized exams. The first few blocks are okay but by the afternoon my brain is mush. So I think these next few days I'm trying to do two 60q blocks back to back to build up some exam stamina.
Looking at my Uworld performance, I usually dwindle at the end of each block. It's kind of interesting.
Don’t overthink it. You’re doing well with your prep, you learned from your mistakes, and you’re in a better place now. In the final two weeks just keep doing questions to build test stamina, review weak subjects, and review missed questions. On the day before the test just do a quick review in the morning and then do something fun or relaxing the rest of the day. You need to go into the test refreshed and as relaxed as you can. When the first question comes up, close your eyes and take a few deep breaths, tell yourself “I’m doing this, I’m ready, and I’m going to pass.” Then go for it.
Thanks for this. This is oddly very reassuring.
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Hello everyone, I cant seem to manage my time on my blocks and its plummeting my score like something else. Its been happening in both Uwsa's and NBMEs and I honestly dont know what to do about it. I feel like I've practiced enough already to not struggle with time but its still been an issue for me. Any strategies and suggestions would be highly appreciated 🙏
How far is ur exam ? if it ls in a couple of days u just wanna relax and calm down cuz no matter how prepared ur gonna be the real deal is different
However if I can give you an advice : you wanna make sure you do the first 10Q on ur block in under 15mins if you managed to do that perfect u probably will have enough time
If u know the question u know it if u don’t just flag and move to the next , cuz on the exam there will be experimental questions so you don’t wanna waste your time on those so if u feel like u don’t know it take an educated guess and flag it for later
Last tip is how you read the question fast and efficiently, start from the very last (,) on the question and find out what they are asking (what is the best next step in management/diagnosis/risk factor…) Then labs if found and highlight the abnormal Then skim through the question really quick and u wanna focus on the vitals and main complaint, and what they did to that patient on the hospital already to exclude other answers , and lastly you wanna read all the answers and exclude exclude exclude the answer will come out , PLEASE read all the answers even if you found what ur looking for sometimes an answer might give u a hint or it will be a better choice ,if they put 2answers similar to each other it’s probably non of them is the answer especially with pharmacological questions , anyways I don’t wanna make this long , just make sure to get some good sleep before the exam and hydrate and eat well so you can lock in 100% and good luck
Thank you soo much for a detailed answer, I really appreciate it! 🥺 My exam is in 2 weeks. I am struggling with reading the long abstracts. Especially the drug abstracts. They take up alot of time. What can I do about those?
On the nbme you can see the block map so u already know this block has an abstract and mostly the block has 38 questions instead of 40 I’m not saying this will make it better there are long questions still in the block , so what I usually do is leave the abstract for the end , and if I have enough time I will read it and highlight important parts but if I don’t (which is always in my case) I just read the sub questions and then look at the table and conclusion and answer the question from there , if I still have time and I would review it from the beginning until my block finishes , I know that was not helpful but reading from Reddit everyone struggling with them , there is a randy Neil video about drug ads u can watch it if u want and good luck again don’t mention it happy to help💕
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My personal way of reading em quickly is to read the question, answer choices, and then start the stem. You already know what you are looking for now, saves time. Strike through any answers you can rule out. Then if I am stuck between 2 answers or something, I move on and flag it. I don’t wait long to decide. At least at the end when you are running out of time you already know what the question is asking and about the stem. Sometimes when I come back to flagged questions, I remember the answer, whereas I couldn’t before- so there is a benefit from flagging and giving it some time. This is just how I do it, probably not the BEST way but I can fly through tests
Anyone else is starting to lurk on Reddit for comments on ABIM in a few weeks?
This will be my 3rd attempt. I have terrible test anxiety. On the plus side, I have been able to study more this time. I'm almost done with UWorld x1 on tutor mode and will reset questions next week to do timed blocks. At 58% correct with 197 questions to go.
I've found I sometimes read the question incorrectly when I'm tired, so I started highlighting the key words, like "immediate next step" or "least likely." I feel like this has helped me.
What tip do you think has helped you?
I’m in the same boat as you! 3rd time taking it, crazy test anxiety.
I think just doing Uworld over and over again should help. I’m going through my second pass and making anki cards off the questions I’m still getting wrong. What’s helping me the most is reviewing the differences between the answer I chose and what the actual right answer is and trying to find a differentiating factor.
At some point, I start to remember the question and not think through it which isn’t helpful at all.
Im hoping doing Uworld and anki this time around is just enough.
I’m recognizing questions as well when reviewing incorrects. I’ve caught myself asking why do I think they actually put the incorrect answers as answer choices. When I can answer why they are good incorrect options, I know I’m getting it.
I failed comlex 1 twice. Ended up doing a board review coarse where you go there for 6 weeks etc. learned to do questions questions and more questions. Passed all my other stuff including abim. I think I did 2 passes through uworld and also 2.5 passes through mksap.. . Something like 8500 questions. But it works. Keep plugging away.
Up in champaign?
https://theinstituteofmedicalboards.com I had a pathology prof that taught there on the side and my family lives in kc so I stayed with them. Fantastic decision for me. I learned how to study for these tests in a way that worked for me.
Similar boat. Only finished 50% of uw so far. I plan on finishing it before my exam and hopefully some incorrect. First time I didn't study, second time I didn't do uw but did a BS review course. So hopefully this will be the one. Very bad ADHD and worsening text anxiety.
Which review course did you do, if you don’t mind me asking?
Awesome review
yup. it sucks
At this point, I feel like people need to start using Anki. Legit go through the step 2-3 Anki decks and refresh your basic medical knowledge. MKSAP and uworld will build on that with the updated/more advanced stuff ABIM requires
i struggle a lot with time management during exams and i usually run out of time to finish, do you guys have any tips on how i can improve? since business is next week, how much time should i allocate for each section?
for me I also have time management issues however, to ensure that I answer every question in the exam even if it's not that perfect but at least I didn't leave any question , I don't put a specific time frame to finish a question I will divide my time on for example 3 questions, meaning I'll start with the first question write about 7 minutes and then move on to the next question I also write for 7 minutes and then I go back to the first question to continue my answer give it some time and then go back to the other one I left so I keep on going back and forth with the questions to give them all a fair time , now this works for me but other's might mix up the answers if they did this, so it all depends on how concentrated you can be.
And drink a redbull an hour prior to the exam
my advice is to always use the 5 min reading time efficiently. During that, make a decision about which one you're doing first, that'll get you to a good start
Section A- 40 mins
Section B - 40 mins
Section C - 50 mins
Proofreading - 5 mins
If you cannot answer something right away, then skip it and save it for last. Don’t stare at something you cannot answer and run out of time for things you can.
Also be succinct. Don’t write a novel. Depending on the course, complete answers, not complete sentences are what’s required.
ABIM exam in 11 days, I have no idea where am i standing, still has around 160 questions to go ( divided them into 20 every day in order to review old ones), i dont believe i will be able to ginish reviewing everything , do you recommend memorizing the tables and educational objectives and scanning rapidly through the weak area questions choices, I have no idea what to do ☠️
I would say just grind out as many more UWorld questions as you can and read the answer explanations from now until test day.
Took internal medicine boards a few years ago and passed with a few points below average score. Probably got through 70% of UWorld, and that was by far the most helpful. The test question format is almost identical to the real test. The wrong answer explanations in UWorld also helped With getting a bunch of questions right on test day.
With only 11 days left, if you try to memorize tables or guidelines there's going to be an ocean of information to review and it probably wouldn't be realistic to master all of it. Doing active recall through practice questions that are very similar to the real test is probably the biggest bank for your buck.
160 questions from what qs bank? MKSAP? Uworld?
How did your exam go?
Take it next year
is passing for ABIM >65% ??
Exam on Tuesday. I’m not super worried. I’m as ready as I’ve ever been in my life, and if I fail, I’ll just self-paced study for a year and try again.
But for those who have the exam a little further out than me, or who are taking it next year, this is what I learned.
I took a month off to study. I went through ALL of MKSAP, including turning the MKSAP 19 books into audio books and listening through every single word and doing all 1200 MKSAP 19 questions and about half of MKSAP 20. Most effective way to study on the ACP MKSAP website was to listen to a section and then divide the questions out on my “learning plan” and do all the questions on that particular subject immediately after listening. I don’t regret doing this. It gave me a very strong foundation to work from.
If I had time, I would do one of the intensive board reviews. I think Oakstone has a format where you learn at your own pace through online videos instead of daily 7a-7p live online or in person lectures. I would do that. If I fail, I will be doing that.
Get UWorld. Holy crap, get UWorld. The format is just like the practice module online. The medical library is a great reference tool. I might get about halfway through the questions before Tuesday. I’ll give it my best effort. I wish I had started UWorld sooner, but for some reason my educators did not hype it up and focused on MKSAP instead. I don’t know why. I will be more comfortable on exam day having practiced at least some with UWorld.
Uworld was much tougher than MKSAP in my experience and was much better as board prep. However, I dont recommend it as first pass material. I usually tell people to do MKSAP once through residency, then Uworld when prepping for ABIM.
The questions on ABIM are MUCH shorter than Uworld and its “know it or dont” on the exam. I felt like I could figure out Uworld questions without knowing the material completely. I don’t think there’s a resource that nails the question format
Just got through with exam. 😵💫It IS very “know it or don’t!” I agree with the consensus that UWorld is tougher, too! And some of those questions were just weird… some I could deduce even if I didn’t completely know… I told my step-son, “25% of the exam was do you know doctor words and are you good at guessing, 50% was how well do you know your medical facts? And 25% was just gimme questions.” 😂 I’ll let you guys know if I passed or not, but I still have no regrets on my study methods at this point, and I plan to keep going through board review material (much more casually) just for the sake of lifelong learning…
Hahaha oh wow.I’m sure you did great! Was the guessing and medical facts step 1/2 related? Or like pertinent to ABIM UW questions? Did you also use boards basics? Thanks!!
To respond to comments so far: I don’t feel like I wasted time as I feel that my knowledge base has been expanded. I don’t feel burned out because I took a month off to study and spend time with my family after residency. Those looking to just hurry up and pass, probably everyone is right and you might be able to get away with just doing UWorld. I intend to keep studying even after the test because I’m fascinated by IM, I’m working as a hospitalist now, and I want to make sure I don’t miss things and that I have a solid knowledge foundation in IM. Wish you all well and thanks for taking the time to comment! ☺️
I feel like posts like this is how we go into burn out. Here we are busting our ass, doing the most to just PASS a test. Honestly , our training should be sufficient plus a month or two of studying. When the expectation becomes you complete all of MKSAP + uworld + uworld incorrects + review courses + whatever more , it’s adding way more complexity to something that shouldn’t be.
But it's not the expection to do all that jazz. An overwhelming majority (including me) didn't study (do any questions or board review) throughout the entirety of residency and just waited for the last 1 to 2 months prior to the test to hit UWorld and maybe one supplemental resource hard. That's all you really need if you are at least average with respect to your peers. OP did wayyyy to much in my opinion. But I guess better to overprepare than underprepare.
Uworld is so much better than MKSAP. MKSAP goes into the weeds. No point knowing third line chemo for breast cancer.
It blows my mind how everyone literally tells you that UWorld is the key to passing ABIM, and yet, there are people who do MKSAP instead. I just don't understand the logic behind this. My residency program gave us free MKSAP. Didn't do a single question from it. Just do Uworld guys..
It's because many programs offer special "discounts" for MKSAP and the ACP gets a nice little payout. So at my residency they encouraged us to get "MKSAP". I went to a top 5 residency program. I wish I would have only focused on UWorld. I was given the wrong advice.
Absolutely this. I don't know why people say mksap is the gold standard. Uworld is way more relevant.
Yo, you wasted alot of time buddy. Just do uworld and thats it. Nothing else needed.
how to manage time during ABIM exam
Key Considerations for Time Management During the ABIM Exam:
Understand the Format: Familiarize yourself with the exam structure, including the number of questions and the time allotted. The ABIM exam typically consists of 240 multiple-choice questions over 10 hours.
Pacing Yourself: Aim to spend about 1 minute per question. This allows you to complete the exam in the allotted time while leaving some buffer for review.
Practice with Timed Questions: Use practice exams to simulate the test environment. This will help you gauge your pacing and identify areas where you may need to speed up.
Prioritize Questions: If you encounter a difficult question, mark it and move on. Return to it later if time permits. This prevents getting stuck and losing valuable time.
Use Breaks Wisely: The ABIM exam includes scheduled breaks. Use these breaks to recharge, stretch, and refocus your mind. Avoid discussing questions with others during breaks to maintain your concentration.
Stay Calm and Focused: Anxiety can impact your performance. Practice relaxation techniques, such as deep breathing, to help maintain focus throughout the exam.
Recommendation: Create a time management plan before the exam day. Set specific goals for each section and practice sticking to them during your study sessions. This will help you feel more confident and prepared on exam day.
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