TL;DR
Use of Sand and Alternatives
One practical solution for preventing ice buildup is the use of sand. Sand provides traction, making it safer to walk or drive on icy surfaces [1:2],
[3:2]. It’s important to note that while sand doesn't melt ice, it offers a temporary solution by improving grip. After the snow melts, any remaining sand can be swept away
[3:4].
Chemical De-Icers
Calcium chloride and magnesium chloride are recommended over traditional rock salt as they are less corrosive and effective at lower temperatures [4:6]. These chemicals can help melt existing ice and prevent further accumulation. They are also less damaging to concrete compared to rock salt
[4:5].
Preventive Measures
Using tarps can be an effective preventive measure. By covering areas prone to ice buildup before a storm, you can prevent ice from forming in the first place [1:3]. This method works best with dry snowfalls, and the tarp can be removed once the weather clears
[1:8].
Mechanical and Manual Methods
For those dealing with persistent ice, mechanical tools such as steel long-handled ice scrapers can be useful for breaking up ice manually [5:9]. Additionally, using a propane torch can melt ice, but caution is advised as this can lead to refreezing if not done properly
[1:6].
Drainage and Long-Term Solutions
Improving drainage can prevent water from pooling and freezing on your driveway. If ice buildup is due to runoff, addressing drainage issues could be a more permanent solution [5:5]. For steep driveways, ensuring proper drainage and considering professional sanding services might be beneficial
[5:11].
These methods provide a range of options for both preventing and managing ice buildup on driveways, depending on your specific needs and local conditions.
In the north east, so preparing for a deep freeze this week. Gravel driveway is a sheet of ice, and I’m currently going at it with a shovel. What are your remedies for stopping this from happening, or getting through the ice if it happens?
Salt is most likely going to be hard to find due to a nationwide shortage, However there are other ways to melt ice on the driveway. There are people that even used fertilizer to melt ice which of course is not recommended as that can harm the environment by causing toxic algal blooms in the spring. There is always sand which is great for adding traction in extremely cold weather when salt melts the ice slower than normal in those conditions, but it will have to be swept up once the driveway is dry. If you have a water softener, you are in luck as water softener salt can melt ice in the same temperature range as rock salt and stores will most likely carry that kind of salt, it will just have to be mashed into smaller pieces to be used as a ice Melter for the driveway since the crystals are much larger.
Shit, get a propane burner from harbor freight. It uses the little propane bottles you can get at Walmart. If you have a really long driveway (mine is 100 yards), it may not be practical. You can also use tarps on a small driveway before a storm and it does wonders to prevent ice. I use them on my steps and near our cars and remove them after it is over.
Wow, dumb ideas from someone that doesn't have 75 yards of ice and gravel. This plan would barely work in Maryland.
You don't put salt on a gravel driveway. Go to your local highway department and get sand and spread it on your driveway.
I’ve got a gravel driveway myself and can say I’ve never had success with salt. It simply melts through the ice then down under the surface.
It wont get rid of ice on gravel as effectively as paved surfaces because as you said, the brine just soaks down through the gravel rather than firming a layer underneath the ice, but ice thats full of a bunch of little holes breaks up a lot easier than ice that isnt.
Warning. Do the torch thing only if it's above freezing out.
If it's cold out, the water running off will freeze in an even more dense block a few feet away, wherever it cools down. Think of a gigantic ice cube from your freezer, sort of clear and everything.
Source: I have a weed torch. I used to have to clear snow for an event held in the spring in the Northeast. One year I used my weed torch. I had four grill tanks of propane, and a big block of snow/ice to clear (5 feet high, maybe 8 feet wide, and 50 feet long). I ended up with a smaller but much more solid block of ice. After that I never used my weed torch for melting ice. I did use it to dry pavement, specifically to dry sand so I could then sweep it off the road.
A little bit into clearing the spot. I did the easy part in the middle. https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjVrHdf49aanFJ9M3YvMCDHHQvFBP_bpmkp4SA1j30hHjrgUOgjamOb3AvKTsCcpn0mgI-RXAKswzowgD7tD-HfRLcLWzqad2Sd3Zb4z3pNBCV_ljhPPIBj3Yla9KX8Sdt9vyRJPg/s640/2011-02-27_17-52-20_498.jpg
A lot of help, and many, many hours of hard work chopping very solid ice: https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHOlGB1gEU1K9oByez5Q_XRB7zluRvrwgthAFMu8cwEhxQ0nuObeknJqT7TBAq9Pq3tPbtjUT4hrlOJSqJ1UFUVvAIPcUefW16AAWYI7_VQNYmAdql8GK6hFOQUQBzpl4NC5LgEw/s640/2011-03-05_10-29-27_531.jpg
The cleared area after (where it's wet/sandy on the road): https://scontent-lga3-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/466974280_10162395622748824_5403851229723123661_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=cf85f3&_nc_ohc=oRxyPCwELh0Q7kNvgEVJB0g&_nc_oc=Adg_h6OxwZdiGMIASYfUwS0MeVkS81twVPVNNmm641-uDlKrQkcj5FWYEOxlysjD2AY&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-3.xx&_nc_gid=AXevKrdk8GJfqFf7KZxDn0B&oh=00_AYBnkdCu3oHmlNtg76ZI2N4jf_olO4L-qwh9FKkMRU5hnA&oe=67B84166
Works well on windshields, too. Hell, tarp the whole car, honestly. Then you don't have to worry about scraping ice to go to work.
It Works Best with dry snowfalls, IDK about wet snow, I'm Pretty sure that tarp would be very heavy in those conditions especially on a driveway. It does Work on wet snow, Just need strong muscles to lift it off without ripping it.
That just melts a hole. It doesn't work on gravel
I just started it this year on my steps and driveway and it is damned convenient.
Translation: pee all over your driveway. You might need to drink a lot of water to make this effective, depending on square footage.
First time home owner in Michigan here, so please forgive what might be an obvious question… Do you remove the ice on your driveway and walkways that builds up over winter? We salt our walkways, sidewalk, etc. but some areas never fully clear down to the cement.
It’s warming up now, snow has melted back, and exposing ice patches, especially on less used paths. Should I try to salt and hack away and break that all up before it gets really cold again next week, or let it be because it’s just going to get frozen again? Thanks for your advice, veteran Michiganders!
Once you get the snow off your sidewalk you can put salt down to avoid snow/ice buildup.
Would never EVER recommend salt as it is corrosive and will ruin your concrete. Shovel/snowblow asap after a storm. You can even snowblow several times throughout a storm. Stay ahead of it. Don’t walk on or drive over snow if you can help it. Clear it first. If you do have ice build up, throw down salt for traction so you don’t slip or get sued.
I fell three times today, while wearing spikes, because people didn’t put down salt. My knee has ripped skin, got a bruise on my side, and an egg lump on my head.
PLEASE USE SALT
Calcium chloride is your friend
Get an ice scraper for your driveway if you can. Go chip it all up and prevent it from building up
The rain and then freeze game has left a ton of ice under the snow over the past couple weeks and I don’t want the Mailman/amazon/etc falling
This is the kind of weather where sand works so much better. The salt will melt the snow and that water will freeze and the cycle repeats. Sand will provide increased traction and won't dissolve.
I have a pretty long driveway. How do you get rid of the sand later? With a hose?
It’s ok for driving on. It’s just slippery to walk on and there’s no other way to the door.
If there's any sand left in the spring you can hose it, or sweep, but you'd have to use a lot of sand. The snow melt and rain will usually take care of it.
You have salt?!?!?!
Is it hard to buy salt right now? Costco had a bunch few days ago.
Yes. You're probably buying calcium chloride. They're both advertised similarly as "ice melt".
It'll either suck a normal amount more than once or suck a whole lot all at once, but the total suckage will be the same regardless.
I'm in the "wait and hit it all at once" camp, but that's because my electric snowblower has enough torque to rip up the ice dam that the plows leave at the bottom of my driveway. I don't really need to worry about a layer of ice sandwiched between heavy snow, that machine will chew through it anyways.
Wait for sun …. Cold water and more snow wind etc would make the need to salt so much it would be obsurd
I mean technically if the water isn’t running off into drains or infiltrating into the soil, a salty aqueous solution will lower the required freezing point by a few degrees which would make it harder for that water to freeze up. On one part of my street we tried this and had some good luck but if you have any elevation change on your sidewalk it won’t work out as well as it did for us. Granted it is a trade off because you’re trading the ice rink of a sidewalk into a slushy mess that soaks your feet. Best part is liquid salt won’t tear up my dog’s paws
Hey homeowner fam. First time homeowner here and I bought a house on a fairly steep hill / steep driveway. With winter coming up, I am trying to store up tips and materials I can use to de-ice my driveway.
Luckily I live in the south and we do not get too much ice / snow in my state, however one or two days a year it gets a little icy.
Any tips on how to safely de-ice a steep driveway would be appreciated!
Salt. Don’t know about down south but up north our home improvement (and grocery) stores will carry driveway salt or de-icer. Throw it around your driveway like you would spread grass seed. Usually done the morning of, or sometimes the bight before.
This is the most effective method. There are several homes along my usual route that have steep driveways. When they know it's going to ice up, the leave their car at the end of the drive and walk on the yard. They carry a change of footwear so they can wear boots when stomping through the grass. Then, salt the driveway.
salt stops working once the temp drops below 25 degrees, good luck
EDIT: 25F
Actual salt does, sure. But the de-icer they sell these days can go well beyond 0 degrees F, depending on which one you buy. Of course OP is in the south so I highly doubt it will matter either way.
Awesome, thanks! Would I be wrong to buy the cheap rock salt sold at Lowe’s and Home Depot?
No, you want something intended for ice melting. Rock salt is usually in giant chunks that wouldn't be very effective (unless you want a swiss cheese layer of ice :)). And a trip/slip hazard trying to walk over the chunks. Like others said, it's harsh on the pavement too. Ice melt is more of a fine granular salt with additives to make it more effective.
Use calcium, or magnesium chloride. Regular rock salt destroys concrete.
Most likely your local Lowe’s and Home Depot will sell several different types. Do you have any pets? The salt can get into the pads of their paws, so consider pet-safe versions. How cold do you think it will get? Each bag should list the temperatures it can handle. I live in the rust belt and I buy a mid range one at Home Depot.
A lot of people here recommended salt. And they are correct, this is the best way. But use it sparingly, it can destroy your concrete.
Dude did this in Fargo. Got arrested. No sense of humor from the authorities.
Lol maybe dont use it on your grass, article says yard? Check your local laws. It’s not illegal 100%. Be smart and aware of wind, dry stuff, and have way to put out fire if you do something dumb
I live on a steep hill in a snowy climate. Buy salt and make sure your tires are in okay shape and you'll be fine.
This portion of my driveway is both relatively steep and doesn’t get much sun. The left side is covered in ice about a half inch to an inch deep that makes it super difficult for us to get to our house. It’s thick and hard enough that salt doesn’t really make a difference, and the plow on my atv just rides on top of the ice vs digging into it. Any ideas on how to clear it apart from hacking at it with a shovel?
Just use ice melt pellets, not salt. That’ll be clear in a few hours.
Ice melt is toxic to plant life only good for driveways with sewer runoff
What's worked well for me in the past is my buddy used a pick ax like tool and struck sections of the ice until it was spider webbed decently and used ice pellets (not rock salt) and poured over the cracks and little impact holes. Allows it to seep in the layers of ice.
Lots of advice for removing the ice, but how about preventing it to begin with. All of it looks like ice formed from hardpack snow, either from driving up and down before it was plowed, or your plow not getting a good scrape (I have the same problem with mine), not from water run off. Once you get rid of this I'd suggest not driving on the snow before you get a chance to plow, and/or putting down salt right after you plow before it gets a chance to get that hard. If it is from run off, you have yourself a nice spring project of installing some sort of drainage to keep the water from going back on the driveway.
OP, listen to this person and u/Old-Tadpole-2869
People telling you to salt it are wasting your time frankly. Enough salt to handle that is expensive and will kill all your plants.
This also isn’t a scrape by hand situation.
And the “fire” people have never actually tried that and don’t realize it just refreezes as black ice. Plus fire is terrrrrrible at heat transfer
Fix drainage and/or get a skidsteer
Salt is expensive, so drop $50k on a Skidsteer?
Get a propane tank and a torch blower and have fun. Or get a shit ton of sand/sm rock mix dumped and make yourself a high spot to navigate on and try force and melting snow water to looks like left side of your drive. Also if you do get stuck you will have a area to grip to hopefully. In the spring you can shovel it to side and redew it in fall
Sand. Next summer, place a barrel there. I've seen them laid horizontal, on a crossbuck sawhorse rack, elevated 4 feet off the ground. Think ski resort condos. They have these at the switchbacks. Anyway, the rack is so they don't freeze or get buried. Keep a long handled shovel there.
Sometimes you can find sand with a bit of salt mixed in or you can do it on your own. The tiny bit of salt will help the sand stick into frozen hard ice rather than slide off which can happen if the ice gets bad enough.
I don't think it will work for OP, but I use bird seed, especially sunflowers, for traction on my sidewalks when they freeze like this. It's not harmful to the lawn. In fact, birds eat it and poop out fertilizer while it's there. Sunflowers help because the birds will leave the shells behind.
Get a steel, long handled ice scraper. Should be able to get one at your local big box home improvement store.
I’ve built those. Lots of work to use unless you’re looking at a very small driveway. They are even more work to fill.
Call your local plow guy with a sand spreader. Have him sand it for you. Should cost the same as one plowing.
It's a full on ice rink out there.
I spent all day making sure the street drain in front of my house was unclogged whenever the plow went by... I now have the only non-icerink sidewalk and driveway in my neighborhood.
Did the same yesterday, the street was just about pooling to the lane stripes. Dug out the drain and chopped the ice and you could see the water moving pretty quickly.
Next time I'm taking one of those unclogging videos. Lol
get a bag of sand and spread it around. Make the ice grippy instead of slick
The key is getting it today (now) before it freezes. You’re kinda SOL after that.
Can salt and sand the next two days and then just let it be buried under a foot of snow
It's a good question. I can tell you my snowblower sheared every auger pin it had trying.
Exactly. Won't melt anything but you'll no longer be worried about it
The brandy urine might just do the trick!
The most Maine answer possible
Yes, very. It’s ice
My back does not thank me for this approach.
Rock salt on asphalt but not on concrete. Salt ruins concrete. Use calcium chloride instead.
Wait until it warms up.
Salt it first. Give it some time to penetrate and work. Use a mutt (tool) to break it up if it is thick. Then shovel.
Very carefully
Get a sturdy implement and try to jab the thin points in the ice to pop the vacuum seal against the surface and get them loose so you can take a nice sized shovel to them. If the implement is a digging shovel, jab and twist.
Sounds like you've never experienced winter before?
Nah, I just never had a driveway — and never a car also.
Rub my wet vagina all over the ice to freeze it shut in a sort of beautiful kind of pain
Well, that escalated quickly.
Probably throw down some salt.
I live in Canada. This is happening soon anyways
SHHHHHHHH! Mother Nature is listening!
It took me a bit too long to figure out what the question was.... Its a little early but it really doesnt change anything.
Same as I always do...go about my business. My driveway usually freezes for a bit every year, depending on how good I am at snow removal for the small 1 inch storms (I often don't snow blow those days).
It's generally not a big deal, even in a 2WD sedan in my 400ft long driveway (slight grade). You just drive carful and don't try and accelerate too fast or stop too fast.
We just closed on our first home on Friday, but the sidewalk & driveway are covered in ice. Like, really thick ice as in it hasn’t been touched at all this winter (the seller was a very elderly man).
Are there any tricks to getting it removed or is it just slowly chipping away at it with an ice scraper and throwing salt on it? Are there any services that I could call to at the least clear the sidewalk so I don’t get a ticket from the city?
Salt and get a ice chopper. You will need one eventually anyways and it's very satisfying breaking off big chunks.
They also make metal pronged “tear off forks” for roofing that work really well. Slide it under the ice and pry up. I know the west side Menards has them.
Just be careful about the ice chopper... You can def put chips in the sidewalks with enthusiastic chipping
May I suggest that you buy "pet safe" ice melt If you there's dogs in the neighborhood? There likely are
The next five days are all going to be excellent melting days, with 3 of the 5 getting significantly above freezing. Get some ice melt (you don't need a lot at all) to help things along today, but the warm weather will help a lot.
Also, if you don’t want to wait, you can buy a propane tank and a propane torch and melt it off today. Plus then you can burn your weeds away in the summer.
I was going to suggest this, I have one called a weed torch
I was able to knock it out in a hour! The sun really helped!!
After you get a few spot of cement exposed just wait until it warms up and starts to loosen up. it will be much easier to clear since the darker cement will warm up better than the white, reflective snow. Salt, scrape, shovel, repeat.
I think we will do just that with the driveway, we just wanted to get the sidewalk cleared asap
Yes, you can use that stuff. Be warned, it’s heavy AF if you fill a 5 gallon bucket you might want help lifting it into the car
You can get some of the sand/salt mix that the city puts in barrels around the city
Should I shovel my driveway now, or will that make the ice on it worse over the next few days?
Just did and threw down a bunch of ice melt. This soupy wet slush is going to be very nasty if you let it freeze.
Shovel it or it will be an ice ring in the morning.
Shovel when snow is done then put down salt/ice melt to prevent ice later.
The salt won't do anything under 15 degrees
Salt maybe not but other products, like magnesium chloride, work to even below zero. So get something appropriately rated for the expected temperatures.
That is not totally true. It becomes less effective and you need a greater amount of it to keep the water in solution. Generally for the temperature ranges in this area salt is fine.
It can provide a grit to help counteract the slipperiness. Physically rather than chemically.
Kitty litter
Here in Wheaton it's already stopped snowing
how to prevent ice buildup on driveways
Key Considerations for Preventing Ice Buildup on Driveways
Regular Snow Removal: Clear snow promptly after each snowfall to prevent it from compacting and turning into ice. Use a snow shovel or snow blower for efficiency.
Use of De-icers: Apply de-icing agents like rock salt, calcium chloride, or magnesium chloride before and after snowfalls. These substances lower the freezing point of water and help prevent ice formation.
Proper Drainage: Ensure your driveway has adequate drainage to prevent water pooling, which can freeze and create ice patches. Consider grading your driveway or installing drainage channels if necessary.
Sealcoating: Apply a sealant to your driveway to create a protective barrier against moisture. This can help prevent water from seeping into cracks and freezing.
Heated Driveway Systems: For a more permanent solution, consider installing a heated driveway system. These systems use electric or hydronic heating to melt snow and ice as it forms.
Sand or Grit: Use sand or grit on icy patches for better traction. While this won't prevent ice, it can make surfaces safer to walk on.
Recommendation: Combining regular snow removal with the application of de-icers and ensuring proper drainage is the most effective approach for preventing ice buildup. If you're in an area with heavy snowfall, investing in a heated driveway system can provide long-term benefits and reduce maintenance efforts.
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