TL;DR: Most modern MacBooks have soldered RAM, making upgrades impossible. For older models like the Mid-2012 MacBook Pro, upgrading RAM is feasible and straightforward.
Upgrading RAM on Older MacBooks
For older MacBook models, such as the Mid-2012 MacBook Pro, upgrading RAM is possible because it is not soldered onto the motherboard. Users have successfully upgraded RAM by simply removing a few screws and inserting new RAM modules [1:2]. It's recommended to use 2x8GB RAM sticks for maximum capacity
[1:4]. Ensure you handle the screws carefully and keep them organized during the process
[1:3].
SSD vs. RAM Upgrade
While upgrading RAM can help with multitasking, switching to an SSD will provide a more noticeable speed improvement for booting and opening applications [1:1]
[1:5]. An SSD upgrade involves replacing the hard drive with a faster storage option, which significantly enhances performance
[1:11]. Make sure to choose a compatible SSD, typically a 2.5" SATA drive, and format it correctly before installation
[1:7].
Challenges with Newer MacBooks
Most newer MacBooks, including the Retina MacBook Pro and M1 models, have soldered RAM, meaning upgrades are not possible [3:1]
[4:1]. If your workflow demands more RAM, consider purchasing a MacBook with higher RAM capacity at the time of purchase. Users experiencing yellow memory pressure should consider upgrading to a model with more RAM to future-proof their device
[4:3]
[5:1].
Considerations for Purchase
When purchasing a new MacBook, it's crucial to select a model with sufficient RAM for your needs, as upgrades are not possible post-purchase [5:1]. For typical usage involving web browsing, business software, and occasional media consumption, 16GB is generally recommended
[4:6]. If extensive design work or multitasking is anticipated, opting for 32GB may be beneficial
[4:11].
My Mac has been running stupid slow lately. After going through the storage and CPU usage, I concluded that it's probably just my RAM memory. I have 13" Pro (Mid 2012) running Mojave.. Did some research and found out that you can upgrade the RAM since it's not soldered in like the new ones. Has anyone ever done this and did it work out for you?
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EDIT: I should've just searched the sub first.. stupid me. Can someone also describe an SSD upgrade to me? I think it has something to do with hard drive space, but I'm currently only using 22 GB out of 500. I'm thinking that's not really an issue.
i used to upgrade them all the time it’s super simple just s fee screws just be careful when inserting the new ram!
I watched a few videos and I’m starting to think I don’t have steady enough hands for the whole process!
The screws are the hardest part the ram just pops in and out I think you could do it! Just trust yourself and get something to hold the screws and keep them separate so you know what goes where.
> Can someone also describe an SSD upgrade to me?
I'm surprised that nobody has properly answered this yet. You misunderstand the purpose of an SSD. It does not provide more storage. It provides faster storage. You know how new MacBooks boot in 10 seconds and open apps instantly? That's not because they have more RAM or better CPUs. That's because they can read data from their storage 10x faster than yours can.
Upgrading RAM will help, and is not hard to do. But upgrading to an SSD will likely be much more beneficial.
Make sure you pick an SSD that is compatible with your Mac. This can be kind of specific. Check the Other World Computing website for information about this. That's where I got mine and it made my laptop feel 5 years newer.
Hope that helps!
So my question is (since I will never hit 500 GB of data).. is 250 SSD better than 500 HDD?
The HDD is like a van, it can hold a lot of stuff, an SSD would be more like a Ferrari, doesn't hold as much(at the same price point), but it's a lot faster.
When your Mac feels slow, open Activity monitor and check the memory pressure statistic. If it's anything other than green you'll benefit from more RAM, I'd go with 2x8 GB just because that's the max it supports and I feel like if you're going to upgrade might as well go all the way, but 1x8 GB and leaving one stock chip is a good option too. If it's green then RAM isn't the issue and you're probably seeing the limits of the HDD. If the performance issues started somewhat suddenly then it could also be the HDD is failing and will stop working completely soon. Even if RAM is an issue, an SSD will still help, everybody I know that's installed an SSD in a unibody MacBook Pro says it feels like a whole new computer.
The SSD will be vastly faster. That said, any system with a nearly filled drive will be slow. Don't let the SSD get to above 80-90% capacity without expecting some slowdown.
> Make sure you pick an SSD that is compatible with your Mac
Any 2.5" SATA drive will be fine. You just have to make sure to properly format it first.
Unless several websites lied to me, this is not always true. The way I understood it, there are multiple versions of SATA. If you have an old MacBook with version 2 and you buy a version 3 drive, it can default to a very low speed.
I don't understand the technical details, perhaps someone more experienced can confirm or refute this. But I've seen it mentioned in a few places.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDducFg4a8E Its straight forward and simple.
Hear me out real quick: ITS YOUR HARD DRIVE.
The ram will not speed up your computer that much, rather it will allow you to do more multitasking (ie. open more chrome tabs and switch back and forth without reloading).
The hard drive is what controls the speed of booting, opening programs, etc. if you want to have the most notable speed difference, upgrade your hard drive to an SSD. This is the upgrade you’re looking for if you want speed. I’ve done the upgrade on multiple macs and it’s very straightforward, especially with your model. If you need any assistance or a good walk through video, OWC has one on their website.
This is what I needed to know! I didn’t necessarily know the difference in terms of what each upgrade did. That’s the problem I’m having is the speed of opening things. I’m pretty good at making sure all of my houses apps running in the background are completely quit. Thanks!
Has anyone found or does anyone know of a service provider, that can upgrade the soldered on ram for a 2020 MacBook air?
Not worth the cost even if you find someone to do it. Dosdude (YouTube him) has done this. It’s not worth the cost/gain for a tech that knows how when you factor in liability.
Well it'll be cheaper than buying a new MacBook
I don't think it's that hard for the guys with the tools that know what they're doing ....I'm tempted to try it myself but it's just not worth the risk for a first time.
Maybe buy something to practice on ...but what ahah
Relative to brand-new sure but not to an even newer used MacBook with the ram you want. An almost 6 year old laptop isn’t with the cost of upgrading, seriously. Very few, if anyone does ram replacement on apples unified memory for this very reason…. it’s not practical.
Hey everyone, not entirely sure where else to post this so I’m giving here a try. I’ve got a Mid-2012 MacBook Pro Retina 15” and am looking to upgrade my RAM. I’m on High Sierra right now and photo editing is becoming a bit of a hindrance due to the processing power required. I have 8gb right now with a 2.6GHz i7 Processor. I’ve read online that the max RAM on this generation MBP is only 8gb, but I have seen 16gb available for sale. Can anyone provide any insight as to if it’s possible to expand or not? Thanks in advance!
Edit: another note, I’ve also got the factory 512gb SSD.
Apple engineering wins again!
I have a 2011 MBP and upgraded my ram to 16gb despite the official limit being 8 gb or something to that effect. The older macs really are better in these respects... /humblebrag
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There were 2 models sold in 2012, the retina is not upgradable. There are no ram slots.
Figured as much. Thanks for your response.
I have a 2020 M1 MacBook Pro with 8GB of ram and 512gb SSD. I noticed with normal use (7-10 Safari Tabs, Outlook, Office, and Adobe PDF), my memory pressure quickly hits the yellow. The computer isn't slowing down but I'm worried that with my normal workflow, this machine constantly hits the yellow memory pressure. Over time I expect the same apps to get heavier and use up even more memory as the updates come along.
Should I consider upgrading to a 16GB MacBook Pro?
The MacBook Air has had soldered RAM since it was first released in 2008. The Retina MacBook Pro followed suit in 2012.
Mac laptops are now like buying iPhones and iPads. There are no RAM upgrades. That’s a decision you must make at time of purchase. There is no upgrade path on current shipping Apple Silicon computers. You’ll have to buy a new computer.
I understand that. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is whether it makes sense to upgrade my laptop as a whole. I just want a machine I can rely on the next 3-4 years.
Then upgrade if you are in yellow right now. As the OS updates and apps update, they'll use more and more RAM, not to mention if you need to add an additional app to your workflow.
I've seen far too many people in this subedit, run into problems months down the road (after the return period has expired) because 8GB is not enough RAM to start with, or they then want to do something different with their Mac.
If you have the money and don't mind the inconvenience of waiting a few weeks for BTO. You will get peace of mind for 3-4 years with an upgrade. I got the 32 GB MBP as I definitely want more RAM. If there were a MacBook Air with a 16 inch screen with 32 GB offered, I would have gone with that because I don't need the CPU and GPU in the M1 Pro.
No need to upgrade
The ram is not upgradable. Need to change the whole machine
You should prolly be using a16gb machine at this point. If you need it or have money to blow I would upgrade. Go 32 if you need to. I got 16 back in 2018.
Make sure you have at least 25% of your internal ssd free (the M1 uses the ssd a lot). The RAM is doing its job and this behavior seems fairly typical for the M1. If you are thinking of upgrading I would wait for the M2 due out later this year (or, so I read).
I think I want to hold off until they can improve the battery life on the new pro's. This 13 inch Pro has insane battery life which I absolutely love. Otherwise the new 14 inch models sure look nice, but 11 hours of battery vs 20 hours is a huge downgrade in my opinion.
So in this case, the M1 is doing its job in handling the RAM? Despite the yellow memory pressure, there shouldn't be a reason for me to worry unless the machine starts to freeze?
I went to a 2021 MBP 16 from a 2015 MacBook Pro. It's a massive upgrade. I got 5 hours on the 2015. Even 8 would have been great. The other thing is fast charge. Fast charge helps a lot. The 140 Watt charger for a 100 Watt battery means less time plugged in.
Depends. Normal use aim for 16, but if you are a extensive user just go with 32
Hey all, I just recently upgraded my computer from windows 10 to m3 MacBook Pro with 8gig ram and 512 ssd.
I figured if I need additional ram in the future I would just be able to add it like a windows unit, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
I mostly use it for email, cloud based business software (carpentry and repair business), surfing the net, and watching an occasional movie if traveling.
I may do some furniture design in the future.
My question is, am I screwed with the 8 gig ram? Should I try and return it for a MacBook with more ram?
Return it. I had an 8gb M1 air and it was almost useless for what I needed. All I did was web browsing and opening aircraft maintenance manuals and it would slow to a crawl. I have an M2 air 16gb/1tb and I'm much happier
Hey guys ! I've been looking for some tweaks that would help speeding up my mac, so here's the clear overview of the the mac that i own , its a late 2012 Macbook pro and i need help upgrading it , which includes better performance with upgraded ssd and an extra ram stick that would make it 16GB in total .. I currently have a 8gb ram onboard . so if im adding an extra 8gb ram stick would it make a huge difference is my question. Since i'll be upgrading SSD So any help regarding the upgrade is appreciated :)
The RAM is soldered to the logic board, it is not upgradable. There are no SODIMM slots like on the 2012 Unibody MBP.
For the SSD, you will need either an mSATA or M.2 2260 SATA SSD, along with the appropriate adapter to Apple's proprietary 7+17 pin "NGFF Gen 2" blade connector. An M.2 NVMe SSD will not work in the 2012 Retina, and the M.2/mSATA connector (despite looking very similar) is not compatible on its own.
Are you currently using a hard disk? Upgrading from an HDD to an SSD is one of best upgrades you can do (I did this to a 2007 MBP a few years ago, it was a night and day difference). It might be enough to give your Mac a newish lease of life - or you might end up polishing a turd
any idea about the ssd that you've used? cuz this mac needs an adapter as well if im swapping my hdd with an ssd
Not that SSD. Check out macsales.com. They have SSDs that are the same size as you 2.5” and will plug right in.
Is 2025, there is no way you can speed up a 2012 machine. Spending money on trying to get small speed bump -> get cheap M1
Or just wait for the new a18 pro budget MacBook.
The MacBook is so well-made that a 2012 model can still perform well in 2025.
On Linux for sure. My old 2011 MBP runs Lubuntu flawlessly and can surf the web while staying cool. But on macOS, that's another story.
I used to upgrade/repair/diagnose these MacBooks everyday for a little over 3 years, back when people were still using them regularly.
Since this is the Late 2012 model, you unfortunately cannot upgrade the RAM since it's soldered into the logic board. The only way to upgrade is to solder a different chipset (do not recommend) or replace the logic board with a higher RAM logic board. Replacing the board is difficult if you've never done it before, but it can be done, and the logic board can be bought for around $200ish if you can find one.
Replacing the SSD will very likely not have a large performance difference, but you can replace it with a regular M.2 SSD, you just need an adapter for it. The one we used was called (on Amazon) " 7 + 17pin mSATA to a1398 a1425" by a brand called "GODSHARK". Again, you can replace the SSD, but performance wise, you won't see much of a difference at all, unless your storage is completely full, then you'll see a slight difference due to having more free space.
All in all, I 100% do not recommend doing any work on your MacBook, as it's only marginal difference, and after buying parts to "upgrade" it, you could've gotten an M1 MacBook Air, for around the same price.
Let me know if you have any questions still though!! 🙌
sounds intresting !! i wouldn't want to risk 200$ lol considering its already an old machine . i think i'll probably upgrade my mac to a newer one considering there's a lot of stuff that needs to be done if i wanted my current mac to support me for a few more years. thanks for the help anyways :)
You should probably try upgrading to an SSD, would make it so much faster, and try Open Core Legacy Patcher (OCLP) to update to newer versions like Sequoia
tried doing it but failed .. any idea will my mac be smooth as it is right now .. or is it gonna slow down even more if i try open core legacy patcher and install a newer version of Mac os. without any ssd upgrades.
Guys, I didn't see this coming since I'm just a regular IT guy with browser tabs open, mixed with some database queries and email apps, Parsec for remote access to my Windows laptop, and that's pretty much it - zero content creation-related apps. But look at where I am now with a Mac Mini M4 Pro (24GB RAM). I wish I had spent a bit more on extra RAM, to be honest. Don't make the same mistake I did.
Too late to return yours? I was used to having 64gb on my old x86 iMac, so 48 was a good middle ground.
Wrongest thing I have read all day and clueless people parroting along.
Whether you have 8, 16, 24, 32, 48 it’s never “enough”
Give a Mac 128 GB and it’ll use all the available RAM to keep things running smooth. So when you run these resource checking programs, you’ll see RAM almost full. That doesn’t mean you’ve made a mistake or running out of RAM. macOS has excellent memory management. It also compresses things not in use to free up more ram.
Therefore for an “IT” guy with a workload like you described 16 GB was also more than enough. Just don’t be a dumbass and keep 20 tabs open. Each tab is like an app in itself. Would you open 20 apps?
wrongest thing i have read all day and clueless people parroting along “Give a Mac 128 GB and it’ll use all the available RAM to keep things running smooth. So when you run these resource checking programs, you’ll see RAM almost full.”
yes macos will take advantage of bigger ram to cache frequently used apps so that they run better. BUT it will not increase the “memory pressure” graph on the activity monitor. When the user really needs the ram, these cached app will be terminated thats why it wont increase the graph size. so in OP case, he really needs more ram its his workload that increase the memory pressure not the “cached apps”. plus you can see that he is already using swap memory. macos only uses swap if ram is really insufficient
i have a 32gb imac. i often see 12gb of memory used(when idling) but the graph is nowhere near 40%
My iMac has 128GB RAM. Doesn't do that. At idle, I'm at about 10% RAM utilization. At its peak when I'm running Adobe Lightroom, I'm in the 50GB RAM utilization. It doesn't "use all it can". There is a point of diminishing return on extra RAM. I find that anything more than 64GB becomes wasted money for MOST users.
The only time it went higher for me was on purpose. I was working on a massive local database comprised of hundreds of gigabytes with the sole intent to see if I could utilize all 128GB of RAM. Got close... I'm sure working on a large LLM would reach it but that's not my normal workflow.
Insulting people because their workflow is not how you would do it is crass and no one will take you seriously.
Ai enhancers like Topaz love ram. Without them my 32gb of ram constantly has 5-6gb of free space, not even cached.
Finally an answer from someone who knows what they're talking about. It's difficult to deal with people who don't study the subject. There are users with M1 and 8GB and they use most things very easily. Study!!!!
Hey man. The person who is wrong here is you. 11GB of Swap and memory pressure in the yellow but “he has enough RAM for his use case”? No, no he does not. What are you on about?
I’m saying. I’m over here running 4 1080p video inputs livestreams and several audio tracks with 16GB ram and it’s just fine.
With an M4 Pro and 48GB, I have about 40 tabs running on Chrome and my memory pressure is about 20%. Glad I went with the RAM upgrade.
How does that work? I have about 50 Tabs open and Lightroom on a 2018 MBP 16GB and Ram pressure is always green.
Is 48GB of RAM suitable for 20-30 Chrome tabs with Photoshop and Remote Desktop open? Will it overheat?
I contribute a lot to the r/lightroom forum and the common thread of performance complaints when people buy new Macs are they are base-level Macs. People would blame everything on the Mac instead of accepting that they bought an under-spec'd system.
RAM is more important than the CPU model.
It's great that you're interpreting what Activity monitor is saying about your Mac. If you're hitting 10GB+ on a swap file, that says a lot, and the yellow memory pressure situation. Sounds like a 48GB RAM system would have been more appropriate, and 64GB would provide plenty of headroom for years down the road.
24GB may sound a lot, but for what I do (hello Adobe) I would be in the exact same position as you. My M2 Max MBP has 64GB RAM and runs my Adobe apps smoothly, with zero swap file being created.
Yes... Apple charges extortion prices for RAM and it's really unfortunate. People will buy only what they can afford and accept the performance degradations because of it. Apple would sell so many more systems if their RAM / SSD prices weren't so ridiculous.
Now you know. :)
It is, I just searched it up and it says Maximum Ram supported is 4GB
The official apple website says 4gb but you can safely do 8gb. I did on both of my macbooks.
if it's the Mid 2007(2,1) one, only 3GB at maximum possible. if it's the Late 2007(3,1), Early 2008(4,1), Late 2008(4,1), Early 2009(5,2) & Mid 2009(5,2) only 6GB at maximum possible. if it's the Late 2009(6,1) or newer, 8GB are possible👍🏽
also the Early 2009 is the first of all of them which gets macOS up to 10.11.6(El Capitan), Late 2008 & earlier are only getting macOS 10.7.5(Lion)
hope this will help you
btw, those GB's of RAM are not the official by Apple specs, they're the true maximum specs!
10.11 is not Sierra, but still a big upgrade over Lion
*El Capitan, my bad
Yeah i’m just running linux to get the most amount of performance. And i have it from late 2007 i believe
Even with 4. Stick an ssd in it and run Linux
I’m old. My eyesight isn’t that great. I legit thought op was running vista….
Just youtube, as it can’t run anything else
2011 13” Pro can’t work silently with full screen Youtube 1080p. Because it’s already quite complicated task for its GPU
This MacBook cannot do 8gb. It's limited to 4gb physically, limited to 3gb usable. It's a chip set limitation.
Hey guys, so I kind of regret getting a MacBook air that has 8 GB of RAM and I want to upgrade the RAM. I contacted apple to see if they are able to upgrade the RAM for me but they said they couldn't. So now I'm looking to buy a motherboard that has 16 GB of RAM and to replace the motherboard with another one but I feel like there is a much better way to do this
Sell it and buy a 16GB MBA second hand. The price difference is your upgrade cost.
this is the way. also i wouldn't buy a MBP with 8gb of ram EDIT: i would like to point out that what i do usually requires more then 8 gb.
Two years ago, I was saying the same thing, but the Apple worshippers would shoot my suggestion down because the M1 is so efficient blah, blah, blah. Now there are a bunch of 8GB machines on sale on the used marketplace.
It’s not bad.
8GB on an M1 feels like 32GB on an Intel Mac.
My 16GB M1 Pro MBP handily beats my 2020 intel iMac with 48GB RAM.
Exactly. A well cared for Mac retains its value so well and has so many potential buyers that this is economically a very reasonable purchasing strategy… as long as you avoid the companies that traffic in buying used computers on the cheap, wipe them down, and then sell them at twice the price as “refurbished”.
I encourage friends and family to buy the lowest end Mac that fits their needs. If they run out of capability due to some new unexpected usage, we’ll just sell it and buy a new Mac with the resources they now need. And that new Mac comes with a new warranty and a new battery too.
Apologies to Apple shareholders.
You can't even do that really, there are so many serialized parts that will cause errors once swapped out. I would simply sell your laptop and buy a new one and count the price difference as your upgrade cost. Plus this way there isn't any risk of damaging anything during an "upgrade" not to mention logic board swaps aren't a cake walk, and the way this post was written it doesn't sound like OP has a ton of experience with electronic repairs and upgrades.
ive mostly dealt with repairing PC's and laptops and this is my first ever mac/apple product
First, learn hot air rework. Second, unsolder the two memory modules next to the SOC without destroying the M1 (Almost impossible) Third, solder on new memory modules that Apple does not sell, so you have to repeat step two on another board. Forth, profit.
In all seriousness, just take the L/buy a new MacBook/replace with 16GB board and new touch ID sensor (yes, it only works with it’s original board)
Remember, the RAM/SSDs on these new Macs are soldered to the board.
Macs, especially the newer M Models are a very enclosed product. Its sad that it is this way but theres a reason why even most repair store cant do much if there is anything wrong with your board.
Sell your current machine and buy one with the specs you want. These computers really aren’t made to be upgraded.
Prolly start with apple.com before you start "TF"ing people
That’s the disadvantage of unified RAM. It’s permanently paired to the CPU and GPU. When you buy a Mac, the best course of action is to max out the RAM, or at least as much as you can afford. What’s absurd is how much Apple thinks RAM upgrades should cost. +$400 for +32GB on a 14” MBP is asinine. 96GB of DDR5 costs $300 on a desktop PC and Apple wants $1200
Hello, there!
Im from Mexico and buy a MacBook Air M2 more o less a two years, the model come with 8 GB and 256 gb on the ssd and my apple care services finished about a month ago.
For my type of work im need a really big amount of memory so, do you know if exist any system or technique to make the upgrade specifically the ssd , and how can cost??
(sorry if my writing is not the best or perfect)
Thanks!
Sell your current computer and buy one with 16GB. That's the only thing you can do. MBAs are not upgradeable.
Damn, dude, my hearth hurts after that idea, Im considerate the upgrade cause my wallet are not in the best moment and sell this MBA don't give me enough money to buy another one right now, my country is not the best to do that so easily (I know, more countries have the same problem for buy this type of products) maybe after six or seven months I can do that,
Thanks, really thanks with all my heart 😎
Could bring it to third party Mac repair maybe they able upgrade SSD.
In China it easily find service for upgrade SSD.
Thats a new option, so interesting, thanks dude.
Its time to review all the options and choose one,
Dude, im really really thanks to answer me with all my heart 😎
There is someone in the US changing the SSD in the MBA, but I have no knowledge of how much ...
https://youtu.be/M0ZmR6UU_8k?si=mRX-Hq2ToSJPrGpp
I bought a USB4/TB4 NVMe enclosure on AliExpress, it is Back to School, so tons of discounts and coupons
I installed a 4TB WD SN850X
BTW: I own a Midnight MBA M2 16/256
Hey. Memory refers to RAM and Storage to SSD. Based on your question I think you are talking about increasing storage.
In your case it might be worth having an external SSD, look at the Qwiizlab ES40UR, it is an enclosure where you can put your own SSD.
Yeah that's I want to say, thanks for the aclaration and the answer, im gonna give a good check of the recommendation
Thanks with all my hearth 😎
I dont think apple has a service to upgrade ssd storage but you can get an mobile ssd or a ssd from a pc in a case it costs like 110 dollars per tb and but depends whats the speed of it is.
Hey!
Thanks for take your time to answer me and for the recommendation, right now go to check that option...especially the part of cost per tb
Again, thanks with all my heart 😎
Dude, the best color for a MBA or a MBP but the fingerprints its a seriously problem day to day 😂
Whatever, thanks for the option, think about this maybe is the best option or one of them.
Dude, thanks again with all my hearth
how to upgrade RAM on a MacBook
Key Considerations for Upgrading RAM on a MacBook:
Model Compatibility:
RAM Specifications:
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Backup Your Data:
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Recommendation: If your MacBook model supports RAM upgrades, consider upgrading to the maximum capacity supported (often 16GB or 32GB) for improved performance, especially if you run memory-intensive applications. If you're unsure about the process, consider consulting a professional or watching a tutorial specific to your MacBook model for guidance.
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