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Mark Grayson vs Omni-Man Power Comparison

TL;DR Omni-Man is generally considered stronger and more experienced than Mark Grayson, although Mark's power increases over time. In terms of raw strength, Omni-Man is often rated higher, but Mark closes the gap as he gains experience and faces tougher opponents.

Strength and Physical Feats

Omni-Man is depicted as having superior strength compared to Mark Grayson. For instance, Omni-Man can lift multiple times with one hand, demonstrating elite Viltrumite strength [4:1]. Mark, on the other hand, lifted an iceberg weighing approximately 100,000 tons, which is considered average Viltrumite strength [4:1]. This suggests that while Mark is strong, Omni-Man's feats are typically more impressive.

Combat Experience and Skill

One significant advantage Omni-Man has over Mark is his combat experience and brutality. Even when Mark achieves similar levels of speed, strength, and endurance, he lacks Nolan's combat experience, which affects the outcomes of their battles [3:3]. Mark's lack of experience means he struggles against opponents like Battle Beast, who would likely defeat him despite Mark's enhanced powers [3:2].

Speed and Reaction Time

There is debate about Omni-Man's speed, particularly in combat versus travel scenarios. While some argue that Omni-Man has faster-than-light (FTL) travel speed, others note inconsistencies in his ability to react at such speeds during combat [2:1][2:5]. Mark's speed is similarly questioned, as he sometimes struggles with slower opponents [2:2].

Progression and Growth

Mark Grayson's power level increases significantly over time, especially by season 3. He defeats Conquest, a character argued to be stronger than Omni-Man, suggesting that Mark's strength and capabilities have grown considerably [5:1][5:6]. However, opinions vary on whether Mark surpasses Omni-Man entirely, with some estimating Mark's strength closer to an "8.5" compared to Nolan's "10" [5:8].

Conclusion

Overall, Omni-Man remains a formidable opponent due to his superior strength, experience, and combat skills. Mark Grayson, while powerful, continues to develop his abilities and narrows the gap between himself and his father as he faces increasingly challenging adversaries.

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Every major Tekken character and Street Fighter character vs Omniman (Invincible)

Posted by MrMeowmers78 · in r/whowouldwin · 2 months ago
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Omniman is invited to a 1 vs ALL event tournament style.
Omniman must abide by tournament rules and cannot cause too much collateral like destroying the stage or spectators or he's disqualified and counts as a loss.
All combatants are not allowed to leave the arena or fly above it more than 100m or they lose.
He's put in a sizable arena (1km squared) with every single playable cast member (And unplayable bosses- Azazel ect.) from each game's mainline history pitted against him at the same time.

Round 1: The entire cast over the course of each game's mainline history at their strongest. This also means every single Jack model- ect.

Round 2: Sol Badguy and Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear) join in.

Round 3: Same as round 2 but he's supported by Season 3 Mark Grayson also known as: *Title card*

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MrNohbdy · 2 months ago

Gill solos: Omni-Man has only physical damage output so he literally can't get the kill here and Gill wins by attrition. Gōki and Oro probably solo: Gōki simply flaring his ki has a similar effect to the orbital cannon that knocked Nolan down, so a direct punch hurts a lot more, and he can turn himself into pure ki (Ashura Senkū) to once again exploit Nolan's lack of non-physical damage.

Street Fighter has hax. Tekken is mostly just stats, though honestly even in that regard Angel Jin and True Devil Kazuya probably do have the direct stats to compete with Omni-Man 1v1 as well. Not as sure on that front, but if the two are working together then they definitely do.

So a series of 1v1s is already a pretty hopeless fight for Omni-Man. One vs all is pointless overkill.

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Ihavenoideals · 2 months ago

Small question, what about the speed gap? given how Omni-man has ftl feats

Not arguing against you(I agree with you) just curious how that problem is taken care of

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MrNohbdy · 2 months ago

Omni-Man is absolutely not FTL in combat; travel speed isn't combat speed. I'm not even quite sure his reflexes let him reliably bullet-time, to be honest. He can certainly fly at supersonic speeds in atmosphere and doesn't take too long to accelerate up to that, but how often does he actually react to attacks at that sort of speed?

Tekken has Heihachi bullet-timing about as explicitly as possible, and Jin and Kazuya keep up with him even in their base forms; they utterly wreck him post-transformation. Tekken high-tiers are probably generally faster in combat than Nolan, frankly.

Street Fighter doesn't have quite that level of explicit speed feats, which is why I mainly listed the characters with massive nigh-undodgeable AoEs as the main competitors; Gōki doesn't have to aim to tag Nolan if he just nukes the whole area, and Gill has a similar attack. Still not a guaranteed win from either of them, admittedly, but that was just proving that they have good chances even in 1v1s, and a sequence of 1v1s would easily tire him out for the win. Against all of them at once, his speed's practically irrelevant if his opponents throw nukes around (which Gill, Gōki, and Kazuya totally would because none of those three really give any shits about collateral damage to their allies).

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Why omniman vs metroman is a one sided stomp

Posted by Immediate-Rope8465 · in r/PowerScaling · 3 months ago

Metromi... man vs the great nolan

1 strength/power: in terms of strength metroman ranges anywhere from city to at best multi continental. both meats coming mostly from the sunray that uses the energy of the sun that ir produces that gets to multi continental like i said

but the blast itself was only city level in dc. also i'd say metroman is closer to island/country ranges in terms of scaling that multi continental but that can also be used. and in terms of lifting strength he lifted a machine that was holding a big chunk of the city

omniman on the other hand scales massively higher. even show omniman scales above season 3 invincible who no sold a multi continental+ level nuke as well as redirecting a texas sized asteroid that gets to around moon ranges.

and comic omniman has consistent small planetary to even large planetary scaling due to scaling to characters such as the tick kicking the moon at mars or tech jacket throwing a massive ship at the sun at high speeds both getting to the ranges of power

overall omniman is far stronger in terms of strength and power

2 durability/stamina/endurance: durability is the same as ap and strength. he can tank hits from characters as strong or stronger than him. his endurance is better being able to survive with etreme wounds and fight with them

and in terms of stamina he can fly without air in space for weeks without getting tired. and while yes metroman could have survived the death ray. omniman scales above tech jacket who survived planet destroying weapons which scale massively above the sun ray

3 speed/agility: No metroman did not stop time and this feat is no way near as good as y'all think. Yes it is fast but how fast exactly. Metroman was able to completely blitz megaminds perception which would at BEST get to 100k times ftl but being honest it really closer to 1000+ times ftl more than anything

on the other hand omniman can travel at millions to even trillions of times faster than light and yes that scale to his reactions preception and maybe even combat speed due to allen being able to react to the speeds he is flying at and space racer who can track viltrimites mid travel couldn't track battle beast and thragg fighting on thraxa

soo while metroman might seem more impressive in reality omniman has far more consistent speed scaling and combat speed even

4 iq/biq: omniman has far better feats in this category he literally wrote books and won awards on the viltrimite empire. as well as he knows how to use his opponents weaknesses and has pretty good hands while metroman has no showing of either really

5 experience: omniman is 2000 years old

6 weapons/tech: neither really unless you include that trinket from megamind rules but that show might not even be canon

7 size and weight: doesn't matter really

8 hax/abilities: metroman abilities are super speed laser vision flight and being able to see through walls

while omniman can also fly but his main ability are the smart atoms that can adapt in the middle fo combat making them more resiliant to damage as well as making them stronger.

metroman has better base abilities but omniman has better hax with smart atom adaptation

9 feats/statements: metroman only good feat comes from being stated to be able to tank the sun ray and his speed feat which i already stated higher

on the other hand omniman scales above the tick and tech jacket with planetary feats and he himself together with 2 other people destroyed planet viltrum which is bigger than earth and has 1.25 times its gravity

and while yes space racer gun did help they still were punching and going through the planet somewhat and them and the ring survived the explosion soo they should semi scale to it at least.

omniman can also damage eos thragg with a headbutt a thragg who is stronger than the one who could one shot omniman before. and while thragg is still far stronger than emperor omniman he still scales to him semi.

omniman easily takes feats and statements hadily

10 cosmology: invincible has a multiverse but he doesn't scale to it anyway

11 most consistent scaling/metas the most consistent meta for metroman is city/island level with ftl+/mftl speeds and at best mftl+ and multi continental with high ends

omniman has consistent small to large planetary scaling and mftl+ speeds and you can get him to solar system ranges which lowkey are more consistent that metroman multi continental scaling and speed goes from billions to trillions

12 debunks metroman has 0 proof of scaling to the space shuttle he was send to earth to and megamind being able to see it is a gag and shouldn't be taken seriously. and we also don't know how long it took and how far was the planet from earth

metroman didin't stop time obviously bruh. megamind turning the ocean into jelly is an offscreen feat and might be a chain reaction and at best woul just give metroman more consistent multi con scaling which doesn't matter in this fight

13 rebunks omniman taking damage from war woman and immortal doesn't make him mountain leve lmao that just upscales them. and in the comics they literally can barely do anything to a weak omniman who is no way near as strong as his eos version.

omniman not being able to tag cecil is show only and he literally doesn't go full speed to not to dedstroy the planet.

yes their speed is not just travel via allen space racer statements and even reaction feats on screen soo these mftl+ speeds scale to their combat reactions regardles.

14 overall tier/Winner and diff:

metroman: city/island with multi con wank. with ftl+ to mftl+ speeds

omniman: small to large planetary with solar system level wank. with also mftl+ speeds which are anywhere from millions to trillions

omniman no low diffs and even show omniman wins with his moon/small planetary scaling which is far too high for metroman to deal with

15 note: before you write reasons that say metroman beats omniman maybe next time don't downplay omniman with out of context feats with no proof and actually scale both fairly like i did.

i gave metroman his comic scaling and out of movie statements but he still loses.

in the end omniman stomps metroman and y'all gotta realize that metroman ain't all that

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Malchior_Dagon · 3 months ago

>on the other hand omniman can travel at millions to even trillions of times faster than light and yes that scale to his reactions preception and maybe even combat speed due to allen being able to react to the speeds he is flying at and space racer who can track viltrimites mid travel couldn't track battle beast and thragg fighting on thraxa

I'm just gonna say it right now, there is nobody in the invincible verse capable of replicating the speed feet that Metroman did and Omniman's travel speed is, as has been stated, laughably inconsistent

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Shuizid · 3 months ago

>Omniman's travel speed is, as has been stated, laughably inconsistent

Yeah, Invincible has virtually no power-consistency. Marc can struggle against giant earthworms in one scene and then against a planet-busting super-viltrumite in the next, as if those two would be on the same level.

Omniman is sooo fast - except when he has to move around a slow green monster with a flower for a mouth...

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Jackryder16l · 3 months ago

Problem with the large planetary scaling.

The TJ comics where that happens was released after nolan's death.

So either a single viltrumite should of been able to nuke viltrum, viltrum is large large, or its practically a retcon.

In reality its #3. It would be like if batman decks a mind controled superman with a hook with no injuries. And then bane in a batman comic after in the same "run" watches bruce break his own fist from a punch. Either Bane durability > Superman Durability or batman got weaker. Or its just strange writing choices that leads to inconsistancy.

And image crossover scaling is just as bad as the "Spiderman defeats glactus" stories.

Everything else is pretty much right. Nolan does win cause MM doesn't have much.

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badmoskharbuja · 3 months ago

>omniman can travel at millions to even trillions of times faster than light

Takes 15mins to fly towards mark

Literally every ON SCREEN feat debunks that statement

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Chessman77 · 3 months ago

Except the ones where he’s literally flying to other galaxies and fighting people who do the same thing

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TheRealTrailBlazer4 · 3 months ago

Just that we see mm actually doing Something at that Speed and omni man is shown to be vaaaaaastly slower during Combat. Travel == Combat and Nolan doesnt even Speedblitz people without enhanced Speed or senses

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badmoskharbuja · 3 months ago

Literally just off screen transportation. Prove that the galaxies are actually millions of light years away in invincible verse?

2 Inconsistent and unprovable feat is the only way fodder man can win.

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Chessman77 · 3 months ago

Thank you, people have been spreading this “Omni man has shit combat speed” lie forever

I’m convinced people just don’t like Omni man

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Immediate-Rope8465 · OP · 3 months ago

people downplay invncible badly these days

like people still think the verse is like multi continental only like HOW

also love how they use outdated databooks to debunk their speed

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Chessman77 · 3 months ago

It’s hilarious because those data books confirm that their reaction time is on par with their travel speed and that they can go MFTL

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Eating_dog · 3 months ago

i dont get why people say 'flightspeed isnt the same as combat speed' argument when 90% of the fights have characters bullrush each other

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NoImagination7534 · 3 months ago

I like Omni man but his feats in invincible are just really inconsistent. Logically an ftl plus omniman shouldn't even be touched by the reanimen and should have grabbed Cecil the first time he tried even with teleportation. That and well below ftl level speed opponents are able to react to Mark and invincible when invincible is at marks power. 

Mean while metro man has no anti feats. 

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Invincible has the exact same capabilities as Omni-Man when he unlocks powers. How differently does all his major fights go?

Posted by TheWealthyCapybara · in r/whowouldwin · 2 years ago

Mark has the exact same speed, strength, and endurance as Omni-Man does when he first gets them. He does not have Nolan's combat experience or brutality. Which of his major fights change the most? We'll be looking at the comics version here

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TooManySorcerers · 2 years ago

He probably wins all those major fights except Battle Beast and, of course, Omni-Man. Battle Beast would just shred Mark even with that level of power and durability.

I love the way someone described Battle Beast facing Teen Team to me once. It was like the Penguin had hired Darkseid to fight the Teen Titans. The epitome of overkill.

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British_Tea_Company · 2 years ago

Assuming Battle Beast is as strong as he is meant to be in the comics, I think that's the only one where he doesn't stop off the bat and that's the one where he'll still get probably beat the shit out of, but maybe Battle Beast will at least enjoy that fight (though there's a real argument it also might mean Battle Beast will bother to take the time to kill him)

Other than that, I think he just does overall better with like, everything. There's no one whose stronger than Omni-Man during Season 1 who shows up beyond BB, and in the comics, I don't think anyone can beat Omni-Man in terms of raw power anyways until Conquest.

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LordHammerfury · 2 years ago

Allen gets immediately stomped. Battle Beast would actually consider Mark a worthy opponent and kill him instead of bailing because he's bored. Assuming that Mark survives, he still loses against his dad badly but it's closer this time. Comic spoilers: When he and Nolan fight the 3 Viltrumites they might actually beat them. Nolan could already handle 2 while Mark was getting beaten down and had to be saved. When he fights Conquest he should probably win and actually kill him this time. He obviously gets beaten by Thragg every time besides the last fight again.

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How strong is Omni man and mark physically?

Posted by [deleted] · in r/Invincible · 3 months ago

Like what’s their best physical accomplishments who has the better one and by how much?

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Remarkable-Cabinet85 · 3 months ago

https://preview.redd.it/7bthz8cgc61f1.jpeg?width=876&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f467510ab481b9e47084b0ff946a42571e634322

STRONG

Right now Mark's a 7 if his Dad's a 10 in terms of strength , like Mark lifted an iceberg from the water overhead and held it for a while ( Google says an iceberg like that must be a minimum of 100000 tons ) so that's roughly around average Viltrumite strength but Nolan's an elite and he lifted 3-4 times with single hand and in terms of striking strength because they can fly fast they can do immense levels of damage , yk force = mass × acceleration

Nolan could probably bust a Moon all by himself , also wait for season 4 , we will see one of the best displays of pure brute force.

Most importantly Mark isn't in his prime yet , he gets even stronger.

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Wise-Collection275 · 3 months ago

im so excited to see that display of force in show form its gonna be so damn good

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Remarkable-Cabinet85 · 3 months ago

Yep , they better not hold back on that

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Petrostar · 3 months ago

Peak:

https://preview.redd.it/13hszacpgg2f1.png?width=1055&format=png&auto=webp&s=d186af7081f30cae67e730e9b3ef98b108e2b2c6

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xz70 · 3 months ago

Probably even stronger than me

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Is Mark stronger than Omni Man in season 3?

Posted by ChanceBack7103 · in r/Invincible · 5 months ago

I am asking this, cuz we know Mark had got a LOT stronger in season 3.

And he also defeats conquest, who you could argue is stronger than Omni Man, so is he stronger?

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Remarkable-Cabinet85 · 5 months ago

If Nolan's a 10 then Mark's a 7 right now at full strength

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Carbuyrator · 5 months ago

At this point I'd call it closer to an 8.5 or so. 

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mshumor · 5 months ago

Yea, assuming Conquest is an 11

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Remarkable-Cabinet85 · 5 months ago

After his fight with conquest I'd say because this time he will push himself to his absolute maximum.

A few more big battles to be equivalent.

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parrmorgan · 5 months ago

Don't answer this. Tryna to avoid any spoilers. But damn, is Nolan the best viltrumite?

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Ok-Shape4038 · 5 months ago

I think conquest beats him more times than not...but a lot of people think Nolan is stronger

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Smooth_Pollution441 · 3 months ago

Yes

Darkblood states it in the post credit scene

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Calm-Childhood9396 · 5 months ago

10000% and idk why it’s a debate.

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Ligabove · 5 months ago

Not yet

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Is Oliver Grayson….

Posted by FrozenDuckman · in r/Invincible · 1 year ago

Stronger than Mark Grayson? I haven’t read the comics but I’m trying to gauge the hierarchy of strength in the show, and there doesn’t seem to be much about Mark and his siblings as far as comparison. I know Invincible becomes pretty damn powerful, but where does his Thraxan half-brother stand?

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PlantGod74 · 1 year ago

Thraxans are too distantly related to make comparably powerful hybrids. Humans however make almost picture perfect replicas. So no his brother isn’t and can’t ever be as strong as Invincible.

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Astonishing_Flash · 1 year ago

He's weaker than Mark and pretty much every full blooded Viltrumite in the series. Thraxan hybrids aren't as suitable as Human ones due to the lower compatibility rate. He's able to hang with the weaker ones but that's about it.

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Medium-Science9526 · 1 year ago

!Ursaal kinda being the big exception!<

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IDontUseSleeves · 1 year ago

I’m probably finishing the series today, but are there any feats to support this?

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Steelacanth · 1 year ago

No, his main skill is being able to pick up new things really quick

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theeccentricnerd · 1 year ago

Except survival skills ☠️

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SafeStaff7671 · 1 year ago

https://preview.redd.it/my99h36erxcc1.jpeg?width=896&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=893277d2d3d13b8fd109853ba932b701424473f4

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BigDulles · 1 year ago

No

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Does anyone else think Omni-man is a better person than Mark?

Posted by blh726 · in r/Invincible · 3 years ago

Nolan had literally thousands of years of conditioning as a Viltrumite soldier and came to Earth not knowing anything about the people and was the strongest person on the planet by far and never accidentally killed someone or fucked up and got a city wiped off the map and managed to keep his true mission a secret for 20 years. He only killed the Guardians of the Globe and fought Mark because he felt he had no choice and knew another Viltrumite would come to finish the job if he didn't. He's a pureblooded Viltrumite and has the same kind of built in aggression as Mark and yet never once snapped and slaughtered his enemies or gave any sort of red flags in any sort of way, but Mark lost his temper repeatedly and got millions of people killed because he didn't take Dinosaurus seriously. Even when Omni-man was rag dolling Invincible around the planet to teach him a lesson he didn't wipe out an entire city like he easily could've. Maybe its just me but Omni-man is a better hero and only really got his ass kicked by Space Freddie Mercury😂

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SPS_Agent · 3 years ago

Mark is far and away the better of the two. Nolan is a great man, but he did let Rex Robot do what he did with 0 resistance. He was being a leader first, sure, but he let some heinous and dangerous precedents be set. Then there's the whole "Actually committing extreme warcrimes against sentient beings" thing. Nolan was thousands of years old, and Earth changes people, that's a given in the text. It's completely different to judge someone getting exposed to love and caring and the ways of Earth and how they change vs someone born on that same planet. Mark is an exceptional individual. Also, he was in his mid twenties when he fucked up. By his late twenties he repented and then some, saved the galaxy from Thragg with his maneuvering, and then by series end all but eliminated most wars and suffering as best as he could with the Viltrumite empire. He started this at like, 27. Nolan collaborated and contributed so much to the Viltrumite empire of slaughter and conquest that he alone was trusted with probably the most important mission for the species. He did his fair share of direct slaughter.

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Meanwhile, Mark was actually trying to do good with Dinosaurus, and THAT only went bad when Mark was too sick to keep tabs on him. But he always took responsibility and did his best to be better and create actionable change. He's plenty flawed, but he's in his mid twenties at the time and has barely been a hero. Essentially, by Viltrumite standards he's a tiny fledgling. He matured extremely quickly, changed the Viltrumites into a force for extraordinary good, and saved the Galaxy multiple times over. Yeah, I think he's a better person than Nolan.

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blh726 · OP · 3 years ago

Also the viltrumites on earth already switched sides under Nolans leadership, he was the one who asked them to fight against Thragg in the final fight and they even said they considered earth their home

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SPS_Agent · 3 years ago

That doesn't contradict any points I made. Nolan was a great man by series end who redeemed himself and changed. Him setting the Viltrumites down the right path, or at least a better path, was incredible leadership. But Mark took that and ran with it and put the entire galaxy at peace to the point where they essentially didn't need space U.N. anymore. I'll respond more on your other comment.

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blh726 · OP · 3 years ago

By the end of the series I’ll give you that, but Nolan was very honest about his shortcomings and how he was wrong to continue with his mission despite his feelings for earth, Mark and Debbie. Let’s not forget that dinosaurus still completely leveled a city and killed thousands and even Eve was telling him it was a bad idea and he still went through with it. He got angry with Cecil for enabling murderers but no one under his watch killed innocents again and Mark still ignores all of the suffering Nolan caused. And left a pregnant eve behind to chase after a reformed Angstrom Levy. Nolan didn’t step in when Robot took over earth, but at that point he wasn’t really a hero anymore because he had to think about the empire like you said. Mark and Nolan both didn’t take the initiative to kill Thragg when he was imprisoned or before he started an army despite Allen’s pleading.

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SPS_Agent · 3 years ago

Mark is also extremely honest about his mistakes. Far more than Nolan. You phrased this as credit towards Nolan, somehow.. but despite his denial and conflict he DID still kill the Guardians. Some of them were his friends. And he killed them where they stood. He only just barely didnt kill Mark when he realized who he had truly become after his time on Earth. I don't praise him for that. I praise him for everything that came after. He truly redeemed himself. But even he admitted that it was Mark who changed him. You might disagree, but the man himself said it. He trusted Mark, knew Mark, more than anyone, could lead the Viltrumites to true greatness in the Universe because of who he is. Nolan admitted the Viltrumites culture still hadn't fully left him.

Now to your other points. Yes, Dinosaurus levelled a city, but Mark saw how right he was. How much good it did I'm the end. Mark had been struggling with hero work from very early on. Why put out fires day to day when there are systemic problems to fix? It's why he supported Eve immediately in her humanitarian efforts. It's why he was able to see the solution in helping Gravitator. He matured from black and white thinking after his struggles, grappled with the ends justifying the means after his initial Angstrom encounter. Faced hell from his parallel duplicates, from Conquest, etc. Angstrom says most Marks are tyrants. I fully understand why. He goes through so much pain and struggles. But the Mark we follow is such an amazing man to rise above it all. And HE is way more honest about his mistakes than Nolan ever was. Again, Nolan killed the Guardians while he was struggling with his changed mind, in denial. That's the opposite of honest.

You're putting all of Marks mistakes front and center and scaling them up unfairly. He was dumb to go after Angstrom. But he let Conquest live by not being thorough and it nearly killed him and his brother again. It makes sense he'd be scared of his powers. It's the third time he pops out of nowhere and inflicts grievous injuries to Mark and his loved ones. Angstrom is the only one who truly made it personal AGAINST Mark. Of course he'd be too rash and paranoid. But he gets called out on it, and does better. Once Reboot happens he's much more mature. We see Marks growth happen in realtime, mistakes and all. We mostly see Nolan's end cycle of development, where he's ending his struggle with who he became and turns towards not being a facist genocidal tool of fear. It's easy to accidentally judge them on the same metric when they really should be considered separately.

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Matteus11 · 3 years ago

From a narrative standpoint, you could say Nolan is more compelling than Mark. Raised evil, turned good vs raised good, developed some more perspective on how things work.

But as virtuous characters? No, Mark is better, his mistakes can mostly be attributed to naivete.

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SourSprout23 · 3 years ago

I thought he did completely level at last a large chunk of Chicago and a few other areas humans inhabited when he was beating the absolute memes out of our boy.

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One_Drawing_4594 · 2 months ago

Are you forgetting that during the fight between mark and his father, his father goes into a subway and slaughters hundreds of people by holding market his neck as he watches them get slaughtered

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sfinney2 · 3 years ago

Nolan didn't just have "conditioning" he took part in the genocide of countless sentient beings.

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Respect Invincible! (Image Comics)

Posted by aprettydullusername · in r/respectthreads · 8 months ago

###"You guys looking for this?" ###"Drop it, freak! Or we blow you away." ###"I wouldn't try that. I'm... Invincible.

#Respect Mark Grayson, otherwise known as Invincible


Theme Song | Handbook Entry


#Biography

Born on Earth as a half-human half-Viltrumite, Mark Grayson is the son of one of the most powerful being in the universe, Omni-Man. Yet for most of his life, he remained a normal boy, only able to wait in anticipation for the day his powers kicked in until one day, out of the blue, they did. Soon, he followed in his father's footsteps, donning a yellow, black and blue costume as the hero Invincible!

Yeah, a pretty short-sighted choice for a hero name.

Since acquiring his powers, Mark has gone through many death-defying adventures. Fighting other superheroes, aliens, traveling to different dimensions, encountering alternate versions of himself and even combating many members of his race, the world-conquering and bloodthirsty Viltrumites.

Ultimately, Mark was the catalyst for leading his people down a different path. Taking over as the ruler of his people, he reformed his people as a peaceful race. One that acts with compassion, and mercy. For under his rule, that is the Viltrumite way.


#Source Key

  • Invincible = #(Issue number)

  • Invincible Returns = IR

  • The Official Handbook of the Invincible Universe = OHIU

Scaling References:

  • Omni-Man

  • Allen the Alien

  • Conquest

  • Thragg

  • Battle Beast


Strength

Lifting, Pushing and Pulling

  • Pushes bully into locker hard enough to dent it^#1

  • Effortlessly lifts and holds car above head#1

  • Pulls Robot apart casually^#16

  • Easily holds up collapsed roof^#18

  • Easily manhandles Night Boy^#21

  • Restrains Immortal^#41

  • Flies with large spacecraft while in space^#42

  • Bench presses a weight equal to 400 tons^#46

  • Stabs creature's tusks through its own head^#49

  • Easily tears through Furnace's armour^#51

  • Easily rips through missile's shell^#50

  • Tears Immortal's head off^#54

  • Pushes over giant^#57

  • Lifts piece of rubble above head

  • Holds giant chunk of concrete above head

  • Easily frees himself from the hold of hundreds of Sequids^#70

  • Snaps Thraxan cannon in two while on the phone^#71

  • Pushes split Viltrumite ship chunks apart^#74

  • Wraps Elephant in metal beam^#79

  • Stalemates Omni-Man in an arm wrestle, seemingly letting him win^#106

  • Slams Ursaal into the ground^#132

Striking

  • Destroys Titan's armour, which is strong enough to bounce bullets off^#1

  • Knocks out Mauler twin^#2

  • Beats up Flaxans^#3

  • Exchanges blows with Allen^#5

  • Knocks out Elephant^#8

  • Hits and draws blood from Monster Girl^#9

  • Makes train station collapse by hitting Omni-Man^#12

  • Claps hands together hard enough to propel fish man into Depth Dweller and knock it out^#15

  • Smashes through Titan's armour again^#16

  • Knocks Tether Tyrant back^#19

  • Destroys Furnace's armour^#21

  • Turns Angstrom's head into a bloody paste^#33

  • Beats Rampage in a single punch^#35

  • Tears through numerous Reanimen^#50

  • Smashes Mauler's gun to pieces^#52

  • Combos Conquest into space^#62

  • Demolishes Conquest's prosthetic arm in their clash^#64

  • Draws blood from Conquest with left arm^#64

  • Bashes Conquest's head in with repeated headbutts^#64

  • Draws blood from Dinosaurus and destroys metal cast on his arm^#68

  • Punches Dinosaurus and collapses wall behind him^#68

  • Rips through Sequid host in a single punch^#70

  • Exchanges blows with Conquest and draws large amounts of blood in singular attacks^#72

  • Exchanges blows with Dinosaurus^#99

  • Punches Cannibal Mark into metal beam^#104

  • Draws blood from Anissa within a combo^#110

  • Smashes Robot's robot to pieces^#111

  • Exchanges blows with Thragg's son^#131

  • Gives Thragg's son a black eye and knocks him away^#132

  • Tears through dozens of Viltrumites pinning him down^#139

  • Battles Thragg^#140 for extended period of time^#140

  • Tears through Robot's armour in a single punch^#142

Throwing

  • Throws man with bomb attached to him^#1

  • Throws trash bag into sky^#1

  • Implied to throw baseball around the planet, just as Omni-Man had^#6

  • Throws spacecraft into another^#41

Flight

  • Bursts through school roof^#4

  • Rams Allen into moon hard enough to uproot rocks and create dust cloud^#5

  • Rams Omni-Man into wall hard enough to destroy it and bring train station down on them^#12

  • Tears through the ground on Mars^#18

  • Flies into Reanimen and shatters ground beneath it^#20

  • Tackles Furnace and heavily craters concrete^#21

  • Flies through metal wall^#24

  • Flies and pushes Octoboss off Rex easily^#25

  • Tackles Thraxan into ground and craters concrete^#25

  • Accidentally craters wall by charging into Doc Ock^#33

  • Smashes through house wall and cracks street^#33

  • Smashes Angstrom through house wall^#33

  • Bursts out of the ground^#37

  • Tackles Rampage and severely craters street^#56

  • Clashing with Conquest causes massive shockwave throughout city^#62

  • Rams Conquest into building and collapses it^#62

  • Rams into and knocks dragon over^#IR

  • Tackles villains and knocks them out^#IR

  • Flies Conquest into planet hard enough to create massive environmental damage^#72

  • Flies through Viltrumite ship and splits it in two with Oliver^#74

  • With the help of Nolan and Thaedus, flies through the core of Viltrum and blows it up^#75

  • Rams Dinosaurus into the ground^#99

General

  • Catches baseball he threw beforehand^#6

  • Crushes turret in hand^#16

  • Holds back dozens of martians^#18

  • Crushes Angstrom's orbs in his hands^#60

  • Bites and tears off a chunk of Conquest's flesh^#64

  • Strangles Conquest to death#^72

  • Kills Dinosaurus off-screen^#100

  • Rips through Thragg's son's neck with a squeeze^#132

  • Bites Thragg's throat out^#140

#Speed

Movement

  • Quickly flies over to a toy store while it's being robbed^#2

  • Flies into space in a short amount of time^#5

  • Flies into space to suffocate supervillain^#17

  • Easily keeps up with spaceship mid-flight^#18

  • Appears in William's college dorm from miles away in an instant^#20

  • Flies so fast Amber can't breathe^#32

  • Flies throughout several locations quickly^#50

  • Catches up to missile flying into space^#50

  • Flies faster than spacecraft to Earth^#77

Combat and Reactions

  • Exchanges blows with Allen^#5

  • Dodges Night Boy's tackle^#21

  • Is able to exchange blows with Viltrumite warrior^#29

  • Avoids dinosaur's bite^#33

  • Tags werewolf before he can escape^#57

  • Weaves around Angstrom's orbs^#60

  • Avoids Dinosaurus' attack^#68

  • Is able to keep up with Thragg in speed^#140

Durability

Concussive

  • Is fine after being close to explosion and falling to the ground^#1

  • Shrugs off backhand hard enough to crater wall with his body^#2

  • Shrugs off a hit from a robot strong enough to shatter concrete^#6

  • Shrugs off hit from Mauler twin^#2

  • Takes numerous hits from Allen with minimal damage^#5

  • Takes hit from Komodo Dragon^#9

  • Unaffected by numerous seismic waves strong enough to tear apart stone^#10

  • Takes a punch from Omni-Man that splits a building in half, making it fall on him and cause massive collateral damage with just a bloody nose^#12

  • Takes a tackle from Omni-Man that smashes through concrete and crumples train cart^#12

  • Survives consecutive blows from Omni-Man, albeit heavily damaged^#12

  • Survives getting smashed into the ocean floor while already injured^#12

  • Survives being thrown into mountainside hard enough to generate avalanche, then being struck back into the mountain by Omni-Man^#12

  • Barely survives being beaten down by an enraged Omni-Man^#12

  • Tanks a backhand that sends him into a car, totaling it^#17

  • Takes an elbow from a supervillain, only getting a black eye^#17

  • Takes a punch from Tether Tyrant^#18

  • Beatdown from Battle Beast left no internal damage^#19

  • No-sells consecutive hits from Night Boy^#21

  • Unaffected by Furnace tackling him into building side^#21

  • Takes getting beat up by multiple Mauler twins^#24

  • Takes punch from Viltrumite^#29

  • Takes consecutive hits from Viltrumite^#29

  • Takes hits from giants and Omnipotus^#33

  • Takes consecutive hits from Angstrom through numerous dimensions^#33

  • Gets smashed into sewer walls by^#36 multiple Reanimen^#37

  • Shrugs off getting slammed by Anissa so hard it severely craters a beach shore^#45

  • Seems unharmed after falling into car^#50

  • Shrugs off a missile explosion that would've been strong enough to cause the largest solar flare in recorded history^#51

  • Is unharmed by a dragon tail whipping him^#51

  • No-sells future Immortal's attacks^#51

  • Is virtually unharmed by Conquest tackling him and collapsing a building^#62

  • Takes a punch, a dropkick, a strike that sends him through a building and a double handed slam from Conquest^#62

  • Is ragdolled and horribly beaten by Conquest, causing more city destruction^#63

  • Is rammed through a ship and miles of debris by Conquest^#63

  • Shrugs off hit from mass of Sequids^#70

  • Survives the explosion of Viltrum from a distance, albeit it knocks him out^#75

  • Takes repeated hits from Thragg^#76

  • Is struck and sent through a wall by Dinosaurus^#80

  • Is unharmed by a bomb that glasses Las Vegas^#80

  • Tanks being shot by a gravity gun^#81

  • Is fine after being hit and slammed by Omnipotus^#87

  • Is unharmed being pointblank at the explosion caused by Omnipotus' death^#87

  • Takes repeated hits from Dinosaurus in their fight across the city^#99

  • Is unharmed by Robot's mech punching him and smashing him into debris^#101

  • Withstands strikes and headbutts from Anissa^#110

  • No-sells explosion that levels Eve's house^#111

  • Is unharmed after being rammed into wall by Omni-Man^#135

  • Is so durable that lesser Viltrumites splatter on his body trying to harm him^#136

Piercing

  • Sequids fail to pierce his skin^#18

  • Hundreds of Sequids cannot pierce his skin^#70

  • Is unharmed by Dinosaurus' teeth^#68

  • Sword breaks on his skin^#144

Esoteric

  • No-sells Furnace's fire blast^#19

  • Furnace's blasts can reach up to1,500c/2,730°F^OHIU

  • Takes a hit to the face from Battle Beast's mace without skin being pierced^#19

  • Is fine being in contact with Magmaniac^#47

  • Magmaniac can heat his body anywhere from 700c to 1200c^#OHIU

  • Unharmed by Angstrom's machine exploding^#24

  • Withstands ear pulse^#50 attacking his equilibrium^#50 for several seconds

  • Takes Powerplex's blasts, even as he uses Mark's own kinetic energy to amp him, with minimal injuries^#59

  • Does so again later on^#81

  • Takes Universa's blasts numerous times and is only a "little dazed" after^#69

  • Tanks villain's lightning and Doc Seismic's seismic waves^#79

  • Is unharmed by magma against his skin^#107

  • Although it could kill him, withstands high-pitched frequencies created from punching Robot^#111

  • Withstands being near the sun^#140 for prolonged period of time^#140

Endurance

  • Isn't tired at all after a seemingly several hour flight^#18

  • Fights Reanimen despite prolonged exposure to ear pulse damaging him^#50

  • Is able to continue fighting Conquest with a broken leg, broken arm and mangled hand^#64

  • Keeps his grip on Conquest even as his guts are torn from his body^#72

  • Despite being severely burned by the sun,^#140, is able to fight Thragg for an extended period of time^#140

Sustenance

  • Is fine existing and holding his breath in space^#5

  • Body staves off^#88/89 an enhanced^#88 version of the Scourge Virus^#66 which wiped out 99.9% of the Viltrumite race

  • Has a natural resistance to the virus due to his heritage^#90

Regeneration

  • Recovers from his fight with Omni-Man in little over 2 weeks^#13

  • Heals quickly from the Conquest fight, though longer due to severity of injuries^#65

  • Heals from intestines being torn out by Conquest^#72 in a few months^#73/74

  • Heals from burns received while near the sun rapidly^#141

#Statements

  • Stated to have gotten stronger since his fight with Nolan^#26

  • Says he would've lost to Rampage a few months prior^#35

  • Says he's stronger and faster than the Immortal^#41

  • Is stronger than he was before, and thinks he'll be prepared despite getting beat up by Anissa and numerous other Viltrumites beforehand^#46

  • Mauler says he's gotten stronger since their last fight^#103

#Alternate Universe Marks

  • Cause mass destruction across numerous cities within three days, fighting and defeating numerous heroes in that time^#60

  • Totality of destruction^#60

Cannibal Mark

  • Cannibal Mark eats the others^#103

  • Laughs off a punch from Invincible^#104

  • Flies as fast as Invincible and slams him to the ground^#104

Black/Blue Suit Mark

  • Draws blood from our Mark and hospitalizes Eve^#60

  • Beats Cannibal Mark to death^#104

#Viltrumite Physiology

  • Viltrumites can fly

  • Viltrumites become stronger with age, age slower the longer they live and have such pure DNA they can mate with any compatible species and successfully produce a hybrid^#11

  • Viltrumites pushing and training themselves attain strength gains at an accelerated rate^#46

  • Equilibrium seems to be one of a Viltrumite's weaknesses^#50


###"I've been thinking a lot about the past lately, and... one thing keeps coming back up. There's just... there's so many things that remind me of something my father once said to me."

###"It was during our big fight... he looked down at me and said... what will you have after five hundred years?"

###"Heh."

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DrySatisfaction6706 · 8 months ago

Great thread, love that alternate Mark's were included. Is this gonna have ones from other stuff too, like Dynamo 5, The Pact, Savage Dragon, etc.?

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aprettydullusername · OP · 8 months ago

Will be working to include those appearances today! And I'm glad you enjoy the thread :)

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DrySatisfaction6706 · 8 months ago

Yeah, the alternate Marks really show how powerful he's gotten since then, and there's quite a few feats from his main run I didn't even remember!

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aprettydullusername · OP · 8 months ago

he never loses a fight in the entire comic's run btw

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giant-tits · 7 months ago

Technically loses to Omni-Man in their fight and Anissa literally rapes him

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LurchingVermin · 7 months ago

loses to battle beast, loses to nolan, loses to anissa, him and eve and oliver losing to thragg,, he's lost a few times lol he just always comes back

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InverseFlash · 8 months ago

https://youtu.be/luIWdR0ZXZg?feature=shared

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AzureBeast · 8 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bemyn03pxdM

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LazyLurker29 · 5 months ago

>Is unharmed by a bomb that glasses Las Vegas^(#80)

Dinosaurus says it'd take "at least fifty" to level the city, right on the page - it wasn't just one bomb that did it, and I doubt Mark would be in the blast radius of all fifty.

On the other hand, given he's literally holding one of the bombs in his hands...that one, at least, he took at point-blank range, which is rather impressive.

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NuzlockeMaster · 7 months ago

Great thread Dull, this one needed an update for a while.

I just have one thing, the link for Mark tackling Conquest in the planet only has one scan when I'm pretty sure the feat goes on for a bit more and even shows off the damage.

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r/respectthreads • [9]

Summarize

Respect Omni-Man (Invincible)

Posted by Po_Biotic · in r/respectthreads · 4 years ago

#Nolan Grayson, Omni-Man

>"My time here has been a speck in the span of my life. You don't know me. I will burn this planet down before I spend another minute living among these animals."

Known to the public as Omni-Man, Nolan is the most powerful hero on Earth. In truth, Omni-Man is from the planet Viltrum, a planet of super powered individuals that leads the greatest empire in the galaxy. Nolan was part of the war effort to conquer planets and bring them into the Viltrum Empire. He was chosen to go to Earth and weaken it in preparation to be brought into the Viltrum fold.

Despite meeting his wife, Debbie, and having a son, Nolan stayed loyal to the Viltrum Empire and murdered the Guardians of the Globe, the greatest heroes of Earth in preparation for the impending invasion.


#Physiology

  • Viltrumites are capable of flight, allowing them to generate leverage off of nothing.

  • Viltrumite blood is resistant to various methods of attack and their cells refuse to die.

  • Viltrumites live for thousands of years.

  • Capable of long term spaceflight.

#Strength

Flight

  • Bullrushes the Flaxan commander through several buildings.

  • Flies through numerous Flaxan buildings and structures.

  • After Invincible stopped a large meteor, Omni-Man called it small and claimed to have previously deflected one the size of Texas.

  • Explodes a person by flying into them.

  • Quickly destroys a large satellite.

  • His clash with Immortal destroys a massive portion of the ground.

  • With Invincible, knocks Hail Mary backward.

  • Flies through a jet.

  • Flies through a cruise ship, slams Invincible into the sea floor, then flies back through the ship.

Striking

  • A thunderclap destroys a swath of rocks.

  • Punches Invincible from the outskirts of Chicago to downtown, sending Invincible through a building and creating a massive trench through the ground.

  • The building toppled as a result.

  • Headbutts Invincible through the ground and then bull rushes him into the subway system.

  • Rocks Invincible.

  • Punches Invincible into a mountain.

  • Punches Invincible, cracking a nearby mountain, and causing an avalanche.

Lifting

  • Lifts and drops a massive chunk of rock.

  • Crumples a gun.

  • Opens the mouth of Hail Mary when it was biting Invincible.

Throwing

  • Throws a baseball around the earth.

  • Takes out a camera drone.

  • Throws a rock at Cecil.

  • Throws Invincible a far distance and it takes him a while to control his trajectory.

  • Throws Invincible into the side of a mountain.

Other

  • Manhandles a Flaxan that was beating down Invincible.

  • Catches Invincible's punch.

  • Doesn't move when a train drives straight into him.

#Speed

Flight

  • Saves five men before they fall.

  • Rapidly destroys Flaxan cities.

  • Beats Invincible in a race, despite Invincible having a headstart.

  • Teaches Invincible to go supersonic.

  • Tackles the Flaxan commander through a portal before he can throw a punch.

  • Quickly flies from ground level to a satellite.

  • Gets behind Invincible and hits him before he can block or dodge.

  • Chases down a fighter jet.

Dodging

  • Avoids a barrage of missiles.

  • Dodges Invincible's punch from close range.

#Durability

  • Has been buried under a mountain.

  • Completely unharmed by a series of attacks from energy weapons.

  • One of these weapons had the power to reduce a human to dust.

  • Unharmed by gunfire used by Cecil's soldiers.

  • No sells an explosion that leaves no traces of human bodies.

  • Unharmed from an orbital cannon. A second hit at closer ranger gave him a nosebleed.

  • Flies upward after the three reanimen crater him into the ground.

  • Slams full speed into Hail Mary and leaves a massive trench when he bounces off.

  • Takes a hit from Hail Mary and pushes back.

  • Slammed into the ground by Hail Mary but quickly flies out.

  • Briefly taken out of the fight by a series of massive attacks from Hail Mary.

  • Unharmed when tackled by Immortal at Mach 3.

  • Takes several blows from Immortal but is relatively unharmed.

  • Unhurt by Invincible.

  • No majors injuries from missiles.

  • Unphased by a series of blows from Invincible and then catches his punch.

  • No sells Invincible.

#Fights

  • 1v7s the Guardians of the Globe.

  • Takes care of the Flaxan invasion force that was too much for Invincible and the Teen Team.

  • Decimates the Flaxan's planet.

  • Takes out the Reanimen.

  • Beats down Immortal.

#Senses

  • Hears Cecil teleport into his home.

  • After a quiet noise, discerns the locations of several invisible soldiers.

#Miscellaneous

  • Has no chill.

  • Really has no chill.

  • Completely fucking unhinged.

  • Took out the lights, power, and security system at the Guardians HQ.

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Astrosimi · 4 years ago

This is an excellent RT thread, and not just because of that header image and the Miscellaneous section. I will say I think there’s enough material in the show for a small intelligence/intuition section, and maybe consider the Flaxan planet rampage for Durability - given he seems to be no worse for wear after flying so fast that he begins glowing from the atmospheric drag and doesn’t seem to be injured by the city-level explosive collisions he causes.

Now just me nerding out: Viltrumite immortality deserves more attention, cause ‘aging slower the older you get’ seems to just spit in the face of entropy. I guess technically it’s not as crazy as the ‘frozen at age 30’ variant, but it still sounds crazy cool phrased like that.

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bladedoodle · 4 years ago

I mean.. Mark will live for THOUSANDS of years. His body fucking spits in the face of general physics with power output, flight and space worthy biology. Also I guess it’s the equivalent of just deep sea diving to them if they bring some air?

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ScaryCrowEffigy · 4 years ago

I was curious so i did the math for its kinetic energy.

Width of texas: 1185.47km

Length of texas: 1173.23km

volume:8.54×10^8 km^3

mass: 2.8609e+21 kg (3,153,602,429,423,581,184 tons) (meteors/asteroids are made from chrondite which has a density between 3-3.7 grams per cubic centimeter. I used 3.35 as an average)

Velocity: 20km/s (Meteoroids moving through Earth's orbital space average about 20 km/s)

kinetic energy: 5.7218E+29 J (136.75 exatons of tnt) Thats enough energy to destroy the moon.

Edit: Its arguable how well this scales to his actual destructive power but he’s still need to at the very least cancel out its total kinetic energy.

Edit II: He would only need to match its kinetic energy, if forced it into a complete stop. Without seeing it, no way to tell if did. Entirely possible he only altered its trajectory to miss earth. Impressive regardless.

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Po_Biotic · OP · 4 years ago

> Its arguable how well this scales to his actual destructive power but he’s still need to at the very least cancel out its total kinetic energy.

No he doesn't. Omni-Man only says he diverted it, not completely stopped it.

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Micromism · 4 years ago

honestly, imo the most impressive part is his ability to withstand all of that energy and transfer it into the leverage he generated out of thin air.

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kentotoy98 · 4 years ago

It boggles my mind that there are some people who can watch a show and go "you know what, I'm gonna do the math on that."

I, on the other hand, am dumdum. Math make brain go boomboom.

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Astrosimi · 4 years ago

Well, you already have him completely bypassing the Guardian's security in the Misc. feats, which I guess also includes him hijacking their emergency beacons to lure them to their HQ to begin with. That implies some non-trivial level of technology expertise.

Besides that though, I guess I was just thinking of Nolan's overall ability to figure out when people are on to him/infiltrate Earth for several years. But thinking on it, I can't identify any clippable moments. Ignore me - great job!

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CMDR_Kai · 4 years ago

> 1v7s the Guardians of the Globe.

Jesus. Well, I guess that’s why I don’t watch these kinds of things. Seeing actual superheroes get their fucking skulls crushed is not my idea of a good time.

It’s a good feat, though.

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LeeroyDagnasty · 4 years ago

I don't usually have a problem with it but I didn't have a great reaction watching that when I first did. I've seen/read injustice but that was next-level. Yeah the show has a lot of gore but that was definitely the goriest scene.

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HeartGuy · 4 years ago

How different is he in the comics?

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KarlMrax · 4 years ago

I don't know exactly as I am not familiar with the comics but here is comic version's RT.

The biggest single thing is probably him blowing up a planet with help. There are also things like the Guardians fight in the comics being him basically instantly killing them all rather than an actual fight.

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KarlMrax · 4 years ago

IMO something in the title is more clear and visible (particularly on PC). Rule 7 also states that the version of the character should be specified in the title. Though if that is a relic of the past and needs to/should be changed it probably should be brought up in the Symposium.

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Feats of Omni-Man (SPOILERS)

Posted by Desperate-Doctor5914 · in r/PowerScaling · 4 months ago

This is a long ass list of Omni-Man's feats, from both comics and show, feel free to add anything or what not:

Omni-Man Feats of Strength: 

Based on Death Battles Homelander vs Omni-Man, the Invincible Handbook Volume 2, and Trick Theory’s How Powerful Is Omni Man? (With Science) Season 1-2, plus feats from INVINCIBLE seasons 1, 2 and 3 I noticed while watching

  • Omni-Man controls Smart Atoms, which allows him to achieve superhuman feats like stopping an ASTEROID the size of Texas from moving at reentry speed or flying at light speed or even faster. It also provides some hax, as he can manually control them as he sees fit, as later on, when Atom Eve blasts Conquest, he only gets burned, not changed or anything, meaning Smart Atoms are a lot harder to manipulate and/or control. 
  • He can hold his breath for weeks by drawing more energy internally.
  • It is assumed that he at least has FTL if not MFTL reaction speeds, due to Allen the Alien having similar if not more, most probably MFTL reaction speeds early in the series. 
  • In the comics, a brain controlling parasite was unable to control Early Mark, which is stated to also control everyone else if they were affected. Meaning, Omni Man has some strong mental capabilities against mind control. 
  • Omni-Man has accelerated healing, as long as he doesn’t suffer too much injury to the heart or brain. They can’t grow new limbs, as any lost limbs need to be replaced with cybernetic replacements, which lowers their strength output since metal isn’t made up of Smart Atoms.  
  • Like his people, Omni-Man can live for thousands of years, making him nearly immortal. This inhuman longevity allows him to become stronger as he ages. He is 2.000+ years old. 
  • According to the Handbook, his skin can survive great heat without blistering at about 6,000 degrees Fahrenheit, or 3,588 degrees Kelvin. He can also survive and train in absolute zero temperatures (-273.15 degrees Celsius (-459.67 degrees Fahrenheit)).
  • The handbook is a little inconsistent, but theoretically. Omni-Man, like his son when facing Thragg in the sun, can survive the surface for a good amount of time, and the temperature at the surface is about 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Also, he could survive briefly in the core, just like Thragg and Mark did in their final fight, albeit shorter. But remember, the core is 27 million degrees Fahrenheit, so it is impressive. He most obviously could also tank solar flares as well. 
  • Omni-Man, though not shown, can survive the most grotesque of situations, like theoretically getting his stomach punched through, and his organs pulled out of him, etc. 
  • If Omni-Man pushes himself to his physical limits, he will become stronger and more capable, making the task easier, though Viltrumites do have limits. 
  • In the comics, an early blue-suited Mark tanked a nuclear rocket explosion head on which would have caused the largest solar flare ever recorded in history once it made contact with the sun. It would have to be at least a millions of times stronger than a hydrogen bomb if not more since it would have to affect the sun at such a gigantic scale. If Mark hadn’t been able to stop this, it would have destroyed and leveled multiple countries and continents! AND MARK STOPPED IT EASILY AND NOT EVEN A SINGLE SCRATCH WAS RECEIVED! This is an early blue suited Mark with two years of experience as a Viltrumite. And during this, he was still weaker than Nolan!
  • During the final battle against Thragg and his half-breed offspring, the half-breed Viltrumite Thraxans would splatter against Omni-Man’s body, and these guys were at least country to multi-continental, being able to destroy warships and buildings and travel near light speed.
  • During the Flaxan's invasion, Nolan almost wipes out the Flaxan's homeworld by moving near lightspeed, where he lit their planet’s atmosphere on fire, creating massive, country-size explosions. HIS OWN BODY WAS THE PROJECTILE!
  • He’s traveled to another galaxy in a week and survived punching a hole into a planet with his son, Thaddeus, and space racer’s infinity ray, into his home world and the resulting explosion with little to no damage while fatigued fighting other Viltrumites. It is assumed that Viltrum is about 14 times the size of Earth due to the Roche limit.
  • To add to the first part of the above bullet point, the Thraxans lived somewhere in the Virgo supercluster, which is  65 million miles away, in a week, so he was moving 3 billion times faster than light! 65,000,000 x 365 = 23,725,000,000 days for light to reach the cluster. 23,725,000,000 ÷ 7 = 3,389,285,714.29 times faster than light. Also, later on, it is stated that a Viltrumite could travel about 20 billion times faster than light in less than 24 hours, so Omni-Man could theoretically be even FASTER than that, since he is not an average Viltrumite, so this is MFTL+ if not more. He’s a speedster tbh lol. 
  • He survived his encounter with Thragg in the Viltrumite War, even after getting his stomach pierced completely, and beaten to near death in space. 
  • Effortlessly threw a baseball around the Earth. In about 16 to 20 seconds, that baseball travels about 5 million miles an hour. Somehow it isn’t a supersonic glowing death orb that's shockwaves could shatter nearby glass, ignite trees, and people, and vaporize anything it touches, but it doesn’t do that. 
  • According to the handbook, he can travel 4 to 10 light-years in about two weeks or less.
  • He can survive without food, water, or rest for weeks (2 weeks).
  • Omni-Man spent a week in deep space after fighting against Mark, and during this, he traveled to a black hole. We will assume this is a stellar-mass black hole born of the weight of a massive, collapsing star, and it isn't too far from the inescapable event horizon. At this distance, he is presumably experiencing forces of 6 to 9 billion tons of planet-crumbling and star destroying weight hitting his body. However, he could theoretically escape, because he is FASTER than light anyway, and general relativity does state that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, but this isn’t real life so boohoo. He has enough speed to surpass the escape velocity of a black hole, trust.
  • Also, when he was drifting in space, he drifted past a few stars as well, stars which were most probably hotter than the surface of the sun, thus showing his incredible durability and the versatility of his Smart Atoms. 
  • He fought against two to three lesser Viltrumites, like he did on Thraxa, he was carrying most of the fight.
  • He also fought an Executioner Viltrumite in the space prison while injured and he, along with Allen punched him so hard they broke his skull and face completely, killing him. 
  • Survived and fought against Mean Supreme. (NON CANON BUT COOL TO MENTION)
  • He defeated Invincible, fought against Allen and Space Racer, and killed the original Guardians of the Globe. (Easily in the Comics, high difficulty in the show, showing how the OG Guardians were stronger in the show than their comic counterparts) 
  • He could breathe under the deepest ocean level for two weeks. 
  • In season 1, he survived a nuclear laser worth $400 billion TWICE, and it only gave him a nosebleed.
  • He was hit by Cecil’s weapon to get his attention  in season 1, similar in the comics, no damage done to him at all. He also has a mean thunderclap. 
  • He punched Mark so hard he destroyed a good portion of the city of Chicago, and mind you, he was holding back.
  • Used his son as a meat shield as a train crashed into both, and it did NOTHING to him, like nothing at all. 
  • Casually crashes into a cruise ship, and then again,  and then throws his son to a mountain, and then proceeds to punch him so hard it cracks the mountain and causes an avalanche, and again, he is holding back. 
  • In the comics, he has picked up a 400,000 pound, or 180,000 KG plane easily
  • After destroying most of the Flaxans, he carried a massive rock with one hand that was assumed to weigh around 500,000 pounds before dropping it as he left their dimension.
  • Going back to the Texas-size meteor, if the meteor’s dimensions were:

 

- Radius: 646,570 meters

- Volume (Sphere): 1.14 * 10^18 M^3

- Density (chondrites): 3,700 KG/M^3

- Diameter: 1,293.14 KM

- Its mass would be 4,608,763,590,974,865,408 tons, which is moving at reentry speeds up to 11,200 M/s! It would hit with enough energy to destroy the moon twice over! And he said it CASUALLY like it was catching a nice fish! AGAIN, CASUALLY! He could, theoretically, stop a bigger asteroid. 

- To add onto Viltrum's destruction, one, he wasn’t as powerful as he was by the end of the series, before he died. Second, he, along with Mark and Theadus, were weakened due to the fighting, and even then, they survived the explosion. Third, the planet had 1.25 times the gravity of the Earth, and also, space racers' gun DIDN’T DESTABILIZE THE CORE, it was already destabilized and what was mentioned by Theadus was purely baseless as he had no idea how the weapon worked, quite frankly, no one knew how space racer’s gun worked except Nolan, but even that wasn’t sufficient enough. 

OTHER FEATS (BASED ON COMICS, MAY BE REPEATED AND A LITTLE INCONSISTENT DUE TO CONTINUITY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SHOW AND COMICS BUT THIS IS A COMPOSITE LIST): 

Strength

Lifting/Throwing

Carries an aircraft, punches Allen the Alien, and lifts a taxi cab 

Lifts a tank-like vehicle and tosses it a distance away 

Throws a baseball around the world in a game of catch with his son 

Catches a roller coaster car filled with people and carries it to safety 

Lifts a huge piece of debris 

Catches a thrown taxi cab 

Starts flying a boulder of ice containing a Ragnarr into space 

Buries Conquest's body under a large pillar of stone 

Builds a stone structure with his bare hands 

Said to be able to lift in excess of 100 tons 

Striking

Wrecks advanced war machines by flying through them 

Crashes through a mall's rooftop, creating a large hole 

Punches apart a giant robot 

Wrecks through several large mechs to prove he is fully recovered 

Slashes open an alien monster with his fingers 

Together with others manages to bust the planet Viltrum apart 

Flies through several buildings and ultimately destroys the crown city of a civilization 

Smashes Mark into a wall, cracking the surrounding windows 

Ripping/Tearing

Rips apart machinery 

Tears apart a large tentacle monster 

Rips open a vault that contained a valuable virus 

Scaling w/ Material Reference

Demolishes Invincible in a fight and creating massive amounts of collateral damage 

His first punch sends Invincible through buildings destroyed on impact, killing thousands

He tackles Invincible through the ground, crumpling and derailing a train beneath them

He punches Invincible through portions of mountains, causing them to collapse

Briefly overpowers 2 Viltrumites in a fight, smashing through stone, cracking their heads together, and tossing them a distance away 

Batters one Viltrumite into submission, and then another, before being overcome by a third he thought he beat earlier that collapses immediately after incapacitating Omni-Man

Exchanges blows with Allen, crashing through walls and nearly bringing down a building before overpowering several soldiers with restrains and getting pummeled by Allen and Oliver 

Exchanges blows with Thragg, managing to save Deborah amidst their fight as they destroy a moon base around them, continuing to fight despite severe injuries 

Beats Invincible in an arm wrestling match to prove he is stronger, shattering the table beneath them 

Again overpowers Invincible when time is turned back to their first fight, contending with many of the Guardians of the Globe at the same time before briefly being incapacitated 

Craters into the ground and through stone into the Guardians of the Globe's lair

Tosses Invincible into machinery that crumples and punches through Immortal

Exchanges blows with Mean Supreme, fighting as equals 

He catches Supreme's punch to stop it

He hits Supreme into train cars that rattle into the air

The two simultaneously punch each other, momentarily incapacitating them as they leave a massive crater in the surroundings

Scaling w/o Material Reference

Dismembers, disembowels, and decapitates the original Guardians of the Globe with his bare hands in moments 

OHKOs a man in Black Samson's power armor 

One-shots a giant monster before exchanging blows with the Immortal and ripping him in half 

Punches away a worthy Viltrumite shortly before combining a punch with Allen to cave in the Viltrumite's skull

Exchanges blows with Viltrumites 

Exchanges blows with more Viltrumites 

Exchanges blows with Thragg 

Splatters several young Viltrumites and tears them apart with punches and chops 

Exchanges blows with Thragg, though ultimately overpowered and torn nearly in half 

Tears apart several Magmanites, who are composed of stone and magma 

Smashes a fragile alien's skull between his hands 

Durability

Overview

Said to have exceptional recuperative powers, endurance, resistance to most conventional forms of injury, inexhaustible stamina, accelerated recovery rates, skin which can withstand a range from 6,000 to -175 degrees Fahrenheit, and can survive space's vacuum and ocean depths up to the ~2 week limit he can hold his breath 

Concussive

Takes a flying tackle from the Immortal that leaves a huge crater in a beach and then more blows from him before ending the fight 

Unaffected by any of Invincible's attacks in their fight 

He comes right back from a punch

He gets beaten through layers of concrete

He flies out from under the debris when the subway tunnel collapses on him

He is unimpressed by Invincible's final punch

Invincible punches him hard enough enough to confirm Omni-Man's identity and Omni-Man notes Invincible has gotten stronger 

Invincible's hand is sore after punching a Viltrumite, causing him to guess the Viltrumite is as powerful as Omni-Man 

Takes a headbutt to the face from Conquest and keeps fighting other Viltrumites soon after, ultimately coming out of the battle with little injury 

Takes a punch from Oliver while training him 

Exchanges blows with Viltrumites 

Exchanges blows with more Viltrumites 

Several young Viltrumites splatter against him on impact 

Exchanges blows with Mean Supreme, fighting as equals 

He is busted through a significant amount of stone

He is hit through a skyscraper, splitting it in half

The two simultaneously punch each other, momentarily incapacitating them as they leave a massive crater in the surroundings

Endurance

Shrugs off hits from one Viltrumite to overpower he and his companion shortly before engaging in a bloody battle with both he ultimately wins, but is shortly after incapacitated by a third Viltrumite he nearly killed earlier 

Still considered to be at full strength even when bruised and bloodied 

Assists in the fight for his freedom after being pummeled in an execution ritual before surviving in the vacuum of space 

Fights through injuries sustained with alien creatures that later put him in bandages and a sling 

Exchanges blows with Thragg, ultimately getting overpowered and disemboweled when Thragg punches his hand through Omni-Man's torso, leaving him alive and recovered after two weeks in a medical facility 

Exchanges blows with Allen**, crashing through walls and nearly bringing down a building** before overpowering several soldiers with restrains and getting pummeled by Allen and Oliver 

Exchanges blows with Thragg, managing to save Deborah amidst their fight as they destroy a moon base around them continuing to fight even with his eye popped out of his skull and remaining standing by the end 

Again overpowers Invincible when time is turned back to their first fight, contending with many of the Guardians of the Globe at the same time before briefly being incapacitated 

Fights through simultaneous punches from Martian Man and War Woman to keep fighting

Shrugs off War Woman's mace hitting him in the face only for it to knock him out after Green Ghost phases through him to disorient him

Exchanges blows with Thragg, continuing to fight through massive damage, though ultimately overpowered and torn nearly in half 

He then survives for several moments floating in space without oxygen 

Said to be breathing a few moments later 

Ultimately dies of his injuries, his damaged heart unable to compensate for the strain 

Temperature/Energy

Unaffected by the snowy climate of a mountaintop 

Cleans his costumes with solar radiation 

Punches apart a Magmanite without injury 

Unbothered by an energy blast that vaporizes his clothing 

Unaffected by an energy blast from Cecil Stedman's sidearm 

Covered in Mamanites' magma without sustaining any injury 

He withstands heat vision that disintegrates his costume 

Stamina

Fought a dragon for over 10 hours, later in the same day fighting a magical flood and still speeds home for dinner 

Survived enslavement without his powers for 8 months before escaping and regaining control 

Fought a one-man war against a civilization for a year, ultimately reducing it to shambles 

Sustenance

Can hold his breath for up to 2 weeks 

Held his breath long enough to exit the solar system of his own power and reach the nearest habitable planet 

Lived for thousands of years before the events of the series 

Survives for 2 weeks without food before sustaining himself on alien food 

The Viltrumite brain can survive without oxygen for an extended period of time 

Speed

General

Said to fly at speeds rivaling starships, possibly allowing him to use inertial flight like teleportation and travel "well above the velocity of light." 

Within a day fights a dragon in Taiwan, a flood in Egypt, and whooshes in to the dinner table by evening, noting that he can write a book in a day if he has a couple keyboards 

Whooshes away to tend to a disaster, becoming a blur 

Washes away to deal with a chemical fire and a dam breaking in moments, with Invincible noting how much faster Omni-Man is 

Vooshes in and out of the bedroom with his wife, dressing both of them in the the course of Invincible walking from the street to the front door 

Vooshes out of bed in the middle of the night 

Flies quickly through a moon base, executing sharp turns along his path 

Flies into the air with Deborah so quickly their neighbor believes she saw a ghost 

Scaling

Speeds ahead of Invincible and throws a boy in a bomb vest a distance away before he explodes 

Slaughters the Guardians of the Globe in moments, despite their speedster Red Rush demonstrating vast super speed shortly beforehand 

Faster than Invincible, who could cross the distance of a day's travel in moments 

Intercepts a Viltrumite who nearly catches Invincible when Invincible is flying faster than he ever had before 

Charges Space Racer before he can shoot and escapes the chain reaction of an asteroid belt colliding with itself 

Flies from Earth to Tech Jacket's space station without the station's long range sensors picking up his approach 

Outsped Invincible when they destroyed Viltrum together 

Red Rush attacks him and gets quickly disposed of a moment later 

Headbutts Thragg when he is being charged, and narrowly adjusts to Thragg's strike that would have instantly killed him otherwise 

Intercepts Supreme's fist while he is pummeling someone 

Misc.

Physiology

Viltrumite DNA becomes dominant in most species they mate with and their lifespans last for thousands of years since they age slower as they get older 

Omni-Man displays many of the same biological indicators of humans when lying 

Said to possess enhanced senses and theorized to fly by manipulating gravitons 

Statements

Considered the most powerful being on the planet Earth 

Noted to be one of the most powerful Viltrumites 

Fought creatures 20x his size with infinitely less effort than when against Ragnar 

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/mtf5fv/respect_omniman_image_comics/?rdt=55102

 

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Official-Handbook-of-the-Invincible-Universe/Issue-2?id=108227&s=&readType=1

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkHUG-S7Woo

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMoL5VMN4-A

Nolan, Thaedus and Mark Destroy Viltrum | Character Stats and Profiles Wiki | Fandom

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idonthavenames101 · 4 months ago

All of those feets, just to be a Goku victim

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Desperate-Doctor5914 · OP · 4 months ago

Um, ok? Thanks for stating the obvious, but we all know Mr. Beast solos

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Livid-Hedgehog-2127 · 4 months ago

All this effort just for most people to either not notice or not read them

I respect the effort

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-Star163- · 4 months ago

Damn

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Alternative_Car6497 · 4 months ago

I would put them into sections. Omni Man beating Bardock is just imo, especially if we use his high ends. I see some people want Omni Man vs Rose and I get the connections. I even watch Steven Universe at its peak but Omni Man vs Darth Vader would just be so much better.

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Mark Grayson vs Omni-Man power comparison

Key Considerations for Mark Grayson vs. Omni-Man Power Comparison

  1. Origin and Powers:

    • Mark Grayson (Invincible): As the son of Omni-Man, Mark inherits Viltrumite powers, including superhuman strength, speed, flight, and durability. His powers develop over time, becoming stronger as he matures.
    • Omni-Man (Nolan Grayson): A full-blooded Viltrumite, he possesses peak Viltrumite abilities, making him significantly stronger and more experienced than Mark. His combat skills and tactical intelligence are also superior.
  2. Experience:

    • Omni-Man: Has decades of experience as a warrior and has fought many battles across the universe. His combat skills and strategic thinking give him an edge in fights.
    • Mark: Still learning to harness his powers and combat skills. His inexperience can be a disadvantage in direct confrontations.
  3. Strength and Durability:

    • Omni-Man: Known for his immense strength and durability, capable of taking on multiple opponents and withstanding severe damage.
    • Mark: While strong, he is not yet at the same level as Omni-Man. His durability is also less developed, making him more vulnerable in fights.
  4. Emotional Factors:

    • Mark: Driven by a strong moral compass and desire to protect others, which can sometimes cloud his judgment in battle.
    • Omni-Man: His motivations are complex, often driven by a sense of duty to the Viltrumite Empire, which can lead to ruthless decisions.

Takeaways:

  • In a direct power comparison, Omni-Man is generally stronger and more experienced than Mark Grayson.
  • Mark's potential is significant, and he may eventually surpass Omni-Man as he matures and gains experience.
  • Emotional and moral motivations play a crucial role in their confrontations, influencing their decisions and actions in battles.

Recommendation: If you're exploring their dynamics, consider how their relationship evolves, as it adds depth to their power comparison beyond just physical abilities.

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