Towards endgame you can fill every farmable tile with ancient fruit, only needing to replant once on spring 1 every year. No seed purchases necessary, just dump the first crop yield into a seed machine or whatever. Incredibly higher overall gains

Exactly. At the start of the game, you want your crops to be profitable, and quickly.

By the endgame, I want the most money per click, even if that means that a star fruit seed doesn’t earn anything for almost three seasons after planting (as iridium quality wine).

More work in the early game, and reduced space in the late game. Yeah, I can buy 20 beet seeds for the price of 1 starfruit seeds, but that also means the Starfruit takes up 95% less space.

If the iridium scythe had an enchantment that would replant whatever it harvests if you have the matching seed in your inventory would be a game changer for the late game

Maybe something to lock behind true perfection tbh

After 2 years of feeling the whole field with ancient fruit you should have enough money for most stuff but the stuff at that wizard tower is expensive.

> in the time it would take to plant, harvest, and keg the starfruit

Your crops don't stop growing while your kegs are running. So over longer periods of time, you get some overlap, and it's more useful to just measure total income per period of time (without tying it back to which part started when).

The other thing is "I have 1200g to spend", which eventually you should have a lot more cash (in addition to limited space, as you noted). If you instead assume that you can afford a few hundred of any type of seed, and also that you have (say) 60 spaces open (in season, or in the greenhouse or on the island):

• 180 beet seeds (3600g) grown and milled gives 540 sugar (27000g). That's 650% profit, but only 23400g.
• 60 starfruit seeds (24000g) grown and kegged gives 60 starfruit wine (135000g, even without Artisan bonus). That's only 462.5% profit, but a total gain of 111000g.

Hops and coffee technically give more money per day than even starfruit, but only if you do more labor (especially coffee). I only do a certain amount of those, with coffee mostly saved to make triple espresso when the "100k of fresh food/drink" quest shows up. (You could also buy and/or grow/mill lots of wheat flour for bread.)

It depends on the crops. For example apples take 10 apples to make one seed, which star quality sells for $1050. If you turn those 10 apples into jam they sell for $144 each, so multiply by 10 you're getting $1440 for those same 10 apples. From what I've generally seen bok choy and potatoes are usually better to turn into seeds, most things are better to persevere.

I'd also add to your consideration for his. Preserves jars are solely for turning things into profit. Seed makers are needed to continue your garden by making seeds. My seed makers are frequently tied up in making more seeds to plant in my garden and can't always be devoted to making profit. When you're later game and can afford tons of crafting slots then it won't matte as much since, but early game it does.

Then there's also the time factor to add in. Seed makers are often faster than preserves, but that also means needing to log in more often to keep feeding in crops, and that's not always possible for everyone.

All that to say the difference is usually very minimal. So minimal that for most the best thing to do is use what's available. Seed makers tied up in crops you need to replant? Preserve it. Preservers all tied up but nothing in your seed makers? Turn it into seeds. The small hit in profit from not doing the most optimal one is nothing compared to the hit in potential profit you will take by not having everything running.

I started the game recently and made a quick google sheet, here's the summary of what you need to do with crops:

https://preview.redd.it/mrx48fe96mbf1.png?width=419&format=png&auto=webp&s=6295336c5c015f3a9ad9b4d619113b75e139986e

I calculated based on the value for non-starred and starred crops, then how many crop for a seed and the difference of value between preserve jar or seed maker.

Sometimes it's not a big difference in money, but it's always more money anyway

There are spreadsheets out there because I believe it varies by crop - some you’re better off preserving. Hopefully someone else has a more recent one but here’s one that I have bookmarked in the meantime

Edit - wait this one is better than the first one

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palia/s/1Dcp96LuZa

The best passive profit i found are apples. Use preserves until you reach the gold limit of 1 mil then make seeds and store them, I store 1000 seeds. When you spend gold sell the seeds to cover the spent gold and replenish the storage back to 1000. This is what I found takes the minimum effort.

I just want to mention that (last I checked) buying fabric is slightly more expensive than what you would've made selling the required star cotton. At some point you'll likely only have star cotton, so you might as well make any fabric you need from star cotton rather than buying it in town, just don't do it for profit or any more than you really need.

I love this tysm. I found some tools but they don't really explain this plainly. I take the top 5 most profitable crops (skipping corn) and make my own layout with them, and then sprinkle other crops in as needed or when I'm too lazy to follow my own made up rules lol. My seed maker tends to overfill w/ bok choy and my preserver tends to finish a stack of tomatoes before I'm able to refill it sometimes so I might reconsider at some point, but currently it's earning me at least 10k a day

I hate this.

I have nevertheless downloaded it, to discard at my discretion.

Thank you for your hard work, this is impressive! Even if it frightens me and my disorganised garden lot.

This is the sort of math meta I need in my life.

Ahhh ty ty ty, and I saved this post so I can give due credit this time around 😁😝

Kelp, watermelon and pumpkin. I started a new world and had to compost all my pumpkins and melons as I was producing so much in the auto farms.

If they nerf bamboo because of you, won't they nerf the next thing you exploit?

They nerfed bamboo because of u? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Melons, probs

Moss, or melon (slices) with auto farms

Looks like a user did this recently!! Thank you /u/shootingclouds ☺️

https://www.reddit.com/r/RootsOfPacha/s/tDzMUpqJa2

The cheaper crops like tomatoes, turn into juice then wine them vinegar (so much processing). The best thing I've found is pickling fish or your highest veg. That and turning any grain into beer

“Most profitable”? No not even close

Also, the quality increases when the trees are there long enough. I have about 10 mango trees on Ginger island, and they give gold star quality so far. The income is pretty good. It’s not my main money maker, but still a good one 👍

My "eureka" moment was dehydrating my greenhouse fruits. The mid game income is crazy.

You can't plant trees in a shed, you can only use the greenhouse. And personally I believe it's a loss to plant them in the tillable soil patch. That should be used for ancient seeds, pineapples or star fruit.

Berries are basically your best friend.

Strawberries, blueberries, cranberries.

Ancient fruit is actually the best but it can be slow going to get your first full crop.

Sweet gem berries arent really worth the trouble IMO.

Spring: cauliflower Summer: blueberries/starfruit (wine) Fall: pumpkin (pickles)

Definitely strawberries, blueberries, cranberries. They don't have to be replanted and grow multiple berries per harvest.

Spring: ancient fruit. Summer: ancient fruit Fall: ancient fruit

I haven't tried all the crops but here are some profitable crops

spring: strawberries, cauliflower

summer: hops(for pale ale), blueberries, melon

fall: cranberries, pumpkin

so far those are the crops that I planted and made profit of

Use basic/quality fertilizer when you plant crops. Increases the chance for higher quality produce.

Put normal quality crops into preserve jars for veggies and kegs for fruit, this increases their sell value. Sell gold crops and silver if you have plenty of normal quality to put into jars and kegs.

At somepoint Demetrius will talk at the start of the day and offer to turn a cave into something. Choose bats for some fruit to help with community center, but I prefer mushrooms. With shrooms you get a dehydrator that can take any 5 of mushroom except red and increase the sell vaule. Also works for fruit, if you have spare not goign into kegs.

Make tappers, just some wood and copper. Put them on non-fruit trees to get a little extra crop for crafting or to sell.

Remember to keep items for the community center bundles.

No need to horde everything early game. Keep wood, stone coal and fiber and enough copper, silver and gold for tool upgrades and crafting. Sell nearly everything else.

The quests on Pierre's noticeboard can also be a nice earner.

Finally fishing. Fishing is the best way to make money quickly. Once you have a spare 10K Willy sells plans for a fish smoker. So you can take one of those with a lot of coal when you go fishing and put your catch through the smoker to doubel the sell price (only put something worth over 100g in)

During winter rework your farm for any sprinklers you have and make/plant winterseeds and powdermelons. They can be a nice earner during winter.

One you get the bus working, make sure to buy the seeds at Sandy’s shop in Calico Desert. Those are worth the most. Ancient Fruit is worth the absolute most but you only get an ancient fruit seed by total luck of the draw in the mines.

year 1 no bus the best crops are

spring - potatoes and strawberries

summer - blueberries

fall - pumpkins and cranberries

use a dehydrator or preserves jars to process your crops for way more cash

fishing is also excellent for money in the first year

Crops alone aren't a huge money maker, especially early on.

The first weeks fishing is much better (up to 7000g per day with a bait maker at the mountain lake.

Depending on your gaming background skull cavern could be the next step (go to level 120 of the mines and complete the vault room in the community center with your fishing money). A lot of people seem to struggle with skull cavern, but if you play whatever game before that involved some fighting and don't completely ignore the guides out there, it should be easy and get you 30-90k on a good day.

If you strictly want to focus on crops, I would recommend growing ~190 kale or ~400 parsnip (plant all at the same time to profit from rainy days) plus the crops for the community center in spring. This allows you to reach farming level 6 and craft quality sprinklers.

Them you can go crazy on blueberries and cranberries/pumpkins in summer and fall (or starfruit if you unlocked the bus). Plant as many as you can craft quality sprinklers.

Later on ancient fruit and starfruit are the best crops. Starfruit are a little bit more reward and more effort.

"Most profitable" and "Highest profit per seed" are not the same thing unfortunately. What you actually need to do to get the most out of your first Spring with crops is to plant parsnips, because though they have a lower margin of profit, you can re-invest multiple times in the amount of time that it takes to grow one harvest of cauliflower. As you re-invest, you'll need more and more space to plant and time to water all the parsnips, which fortunately you have since there isn't a lot else for you to do yet in the early game. So by the end of spring, you will still be making far less profit per parsnip seed than you would with cauliflower, but the sheer quantity of parsnips is more than enough to make them the most profitable option for the season.

In later seasons, the way to calculate highest profit changes to profit per seed divided by number of days to grow times crop yield. The reason is because you no longer have unlimited space, so you can't keep re-investing and expanding. Unfortunately under these calculations, cauliflower, melons, and pumpkins still aren't the most profitable. Strawberries, blueberries, and cranberries are, at scale. It depends on what you plan to do with your crops artisan-wise though.

Potatoes are more profitable if you consider the fact that it gives on avg 1.25 crops/harvest.

There should be seasonal price changes and somewhat daily pumpkins should sell for more in early fall than late and other seasons strawberry’s should sell for more on summer

Does this also account for days between harvest?