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Rock Climbing Techniques for Beginners

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  • Focus on footwork and balance
  • Use your legs more than your arms
  • Practice regularly and watch instructional videos

Footwork and Balance

One of the most important aspects of rock climbing is footwork. Proper foot placement and balance can significantly improve your climbing efficiency. It's recommended to keep your hips close to the wall and use your legs to push yourself up rather than relying solely on your arms [3:4]. Practicing slab climbing can also help improve footwork, as it requires careful placement and trust in smaller holds [4:4].

Using Legs Over Arms

Beginners often make the mistake of using their arms too much, which can lead to fatigue quickly. Instead, focus on using your legs, which are stronger and can provide better support [3:4]. Exercises like smearing, where you use friction against the wall instead of footholds, can be beneficial [5:5].

Practice and Repetition

Consistent practice is key to improvement. Climbing the same routes multiple times can help refine technique and build muscle memory [5:2][5:8]. Downclimbing routes can also enhance endurance and encourage better foot placement [5:5].

Instructional Videos and Resources

Watching instructional videos can offer valuable insights into climbing techniques. Neil Gresham's Climbing Masterclass and other YouTube channels like Mani the Monkey and Magnus Mitdbo are highly recommended for learning various techniques [1:2][4:3][5:4]. These resources can help beginners understand different holds and foot positions [5:12].

Fun and Experimentation

Above all, remember to have fun and experiment with different styles and techniques. Climbing should be an enjoyable experience, and trying out new moves can offer surprising results [3:6][4:1]. Planning ahead before a climb can be helpful, but sometimes improvising on the wall can also be rewarding [5:6].

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Top 5 Beginner Rock Climbing Tips | How To Start Rock Climbing

Posted by Brandon-Beauchesne · in r/bouldering · 4 years ago
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Rock Climbing is fun but sometimes you need some extra help as a beginner or want to know how to start rock climbing on the right foot. These are the top 5 beginner rock climbing techniques that I used and still use to improve my own rock climbing. Starting out is always a fun and excited experience but it can sometimes be very daunting. If you are looking to get some helpful tips for a beginner rock climber or ways to start rock climbing, you have come to the right place.

https://youtu.be/D0KBs98MN_E

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ten0ritaiga · 4 years ago

This video is all over the place. This video was made by a relative beginner climber so there's quite a bit of misinformation that could be detrimental to your experience.

If you're a beginner, save yourself some possible injury and watch neil greshams masterclass series instead. Learn from an actual experienced climber.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBCRwO0FN0zMTqSfFW9SMbK2tncTrI25r

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poorboychevelle · 4 years ago
  • Footwork is poor throughout the video
    • Frequently on ball of foot
  • Using scapula\rowing to support "straight arms" instead of twisting core - bad take
  • Says 5 Tips, but then has like 2, a 3-parter, another 3-parter, and then some weird stuff. For the life of me I couldn't ID which 5 are the 5.
  • Explains smearing without saying smearing, fine
  • Completely butchers the definition of Barn Door, and by that I mean is objectively wrong (means flagging)
  • That said - fear management and time management, good takes there, genuinely. Good take on asking for beta.

We've all been there over-hyped and sharing stuff we didn't know we didn't know enough about. I'm just glad YouTube wasn't a thing at that stage (and rockclimbing.com has taken down all my cringey posts)

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Brandon-Beauchesne · OP · 4 years ago

Thank you for taking the time to watch and give me criticism. Can’t wait to continuously improve and encourage others in this great sport.

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Brandon-Beauchesne · OP · 4 years ago

Thank you for the feedback and taking the time to watch the video. I am definitely not an expert for sure. Hoping to spread some tips and tricks that I learned from this amazing community and climbers that helped me to others. Great to see you are trying to help beginners as well!

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MrTwoSocks · 4 years ago

Hey man, I don't mean to be a jerk, but this video is pretty bad and I really hope there aren't any beginner climbers watching this as it may be detrimental to their learning. You clearly have a passion for teaching, which is great, but it's also clear that you yourself are a beginner climber. Your footwork and technique need a lot of work, and you are not currently in a position to be offering climbing advice. Maybe consider a video series on how you are working to improve your own climbing or just documenting your journey on becoming a better climber?

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Brandon-Beauchesne · OP · 4 years ago

Thank you for the feedback and watching the video. Trying to share information that has helped me and I will continue to improve.

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MrTwoSocks · 4 years ago

I appreciate your reception and reaponse to the critical comments here. I think my biggest gripe is that it feels like you are misrepresenting your level of skill and experience in this video. I think if you had made it clear in the video that you are by no means an expert and are still learning yourself, it wouldn't have left such a sour taste in my mouth. Anyway, I wish you well and good luck with future videos

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SteakSauceAwwYeah · 4 years ago

Saw your vid posted on another sub, but thought I would comment here:

Even though you mentioned that it wasn't your intention to come off as an "expert", I think when you say things like how you're a Ninja Warrior/athlete, these are what you use to teach beginners, and what you used when "you were a beginner", it comes off as if you should be a bit more of an advanced climber. But in watching what you're doing, just through how you move and the things you talk about, it's quite apparent that you are still a beginner yourself. Now, this isn't necessarily a bad thing (there are a ton of beginner climbers sharing their progress online -- which is great) but I think because of how you introduced your video vs. how you climb...it's quite the contrast and it doesn't come off too well.

Whereas I think had you mentioned that you're someone who got interested in learning, you're still trying to figure out the sport, or tips you found helpful, or even did a compare/contrast vid of how you used to climb versus how you do it now, that would have been a lot more interesting. In short, I think if you express a bit more of your own personal journey or a genuine interest within the community or sport, as opposed to this purely educational vid, I think it would have been better.

Video-wise, I thought editing was okay but sometimes it was confusing to watch because I couldn't tell when you were climbing well or poorly (I sort of new by what you were mentioning in the voice over comments but it was not always super distinct). And as mentioned, because your footwork is a bit poor, sometimes it was actually hard to tell if you were demonstrating something people should (or shouldn't) be doing.

Any ways, it's cool that more people are getting involved in climbing, but I do think your vid sorta suffers from giving advice but not necessarily understanding the deeper aspects of said advice. If you want to make more climbing vids, why not consider just sharing your own progress/journey?

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Brandon-Beauchesne · OP · 4 years ago

Thank you very much for the big response and taking the time and watching the video in order to give good criticism and feedback.

There definitely has been a lot of common criticism and things mentioned especially the difference of giving feedback and advice as a beginner and taking the information as “this is advice that has helped me” vs “ I am an expert so here’s what you need to know”.

I agree with you from the editing standpoint which is some thing I realized after I’m trying to make it more clear on what my intention was on the good examples versus bad examples and making it clear this is the “intention” and not perfect technique in its own sense.

I definitely enjoy the sport and love sharing it with other people and help others while I can so I appreciate the feedback thank you for your thoughts to make sure that it is done better in the future.

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Ultimate Beginners Guide to Indoor Rock Climbing

Posted by XSProgression · in r/Indoorclimbing · 2 years ago

Hey everyone!

I've been obsessed with this sport for a little while now and when I got started, there was a huuge rabbit whole of information to figure out and consume. I decided to hire a coach to teach me everything from tying a harness knot to slightly advanced bouldering technique. He allowed me to film our training, and I used that to compile a beginners guide video answering every question I had when I first started. This video covers basic gear and how to use it, how to tie harness knots, how to belay, how to properly boulder, the different types of holds, climb difficulties and grades (both US and French), some beginner and advanced techniques for climbing, and common terms used in the gym. If you're just getting started, this is a great video to watch that will give you a full fundamental overview and training for both top rope climbing and bouldering. Coaches, feel free to share this video with your clients and team athletes as well!

https://youtu.be/HwQg7hD19jE

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VaxDaddy · 2 years ago

Thank you a million times over, just about to head to a gym for the first time and I feel a lot less nervous now. So extremely detailed and thorough and paced perfect for newbies!!!! You "Rock"!!

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XSProgression · OP · 2 years ago

hahah! 🪨🤘 So happy to hear this was helpful to you! You're more than welcome! How did your first day go?

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VaxDaddy · 2 years ago

It was great, pretty sore after 2 hours on the "bunny hill" bouldering routes, tried to move up one level and was like nope, Ive got a lot of strength building and grip work to do! So I've got goals... Just going to work at it and have fun. Going back today for a belay class, maybe try a top rope climb! And figure out a workout schedule to get my fingers RIPPED!!

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First time bouldering (and rock climbing) and had a blast! Looking for any and all beginner tips you wish you knew when you started out.

Posted by Gonerill · in r/indoorbouldering · 3 months ago
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PS does it ever get easier on your hands and fingers 🥲 they’re on fire lol

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guardngnome · 3 months ago

For the first couple of months: just climb. Have fun.

Once you're more confident just being on the wall, use youtube and find any one of the hundreds of beginner bouldering tips videos and start to incorporate that into your sessions. Drills are great.

Top tips I have from this video: speed up! The longer you're on the wall, the more tired you'll be. Also, use your legs more- I can see you're stretching yourself out a lot by reaching super high, that doesn't leave you with much room to move. Looking great as a start though.

Welcome to the sport and good luck!!

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Gonerill · OP · 3 months ago

Speed up, got it! I did learn to use my legs more, arms tired out super quickly 😅

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South_Ad3158 · 3 months ago

For the YouTube portion of this equation I recommend starting with Send Edition (good on all platforms) and Movement for Climbers (YouTube). Have fun and take breaks 😊

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drummerftw · 3 months ago

Alternatively, be slow and efficient in your movements. Place that foot exactly where it needs to be, first time. Speed isn't necessarily helpful.

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marcoenclaimo · 3 months ago

I disagree, look up terms, tutorials , and exercises. Immerse yourself, let it take over. Crush sets in such a short ammount of time other people say damn. But yeah have fun though.

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Rocktouchy · 3 months ago

Remember to take your harness off before bouldering! All falls are ground falls and you don't want anything between you and the mat! Other than that, keep climbing and having fun with it, and make some friends while you're at it like everyone else is saying.

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dantesmonfern0 · 3 months ago

The best general advice I can give is keeping your hips close to the wall will help you stay on, your legs are stronger than your arms so push yourself up instead of pulling, and just have fun. Don’t be afraid to try something that looks too hard, you might surprise yourself!

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Rocktouchy · 3 months ago

Also, when you get more into climbing you'll have belay devices and personal anchors on your harness that you do not want to land on. It's not necessarily dangerous with nothing on your harness, just not a good habit to develop.

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Physical_Relief4484 · 3 months ago

Best tip: just have fun and don't stress. Sometimes the most joy can come from the beginner gains, don't diminish it by being too critical.

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Physical_Relief4484 · 3 months ago

Also, at the gym you're at, the routes are all color-coded -- so if you're looking to finish a designated route just make sure to stay on whatever color you start with. 

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Gonerill · OP · 3 months ago

Great advice, thank you!

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flyingninjaoverhere · 3 months ago

Things will make a bit more sense if you stick to one colour. They are graded somehow, so start easy and build up slowly.

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Best ways to improve climbing technique as a beginner?

Posted by funkymasterflex · in r/climbing · 6 years ago

Hey y'all,

As the title says, me and my fiancee have both just started climbing and have been really enjoying it! I'm just looking for some advice on how to improve climbing technique.

I did the whole D1 wrestling thing where technique is taught on a near-daily basis throughout one's grappling "career", whereas that doesn't seem to exist in a formalized way in climbing. I understand that consistent climbing will most likely be the best way to improve, but are there any resources that y'all might recommend to fast track progress? Would getting a private lesson or two as a beginner be a worthwhile endeavor? Thanks!

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DogmaticNuance · 6 years ago

If your gym offers classes for free (mine does for beginner classes) then take advantage of that. Two practice routines that were taught to me at a climbing class and I think worked well to build proper muscle memory for climbing technique:

  • Find a route you consider moderately easy and climb it while forcing yourself to hover your hand over each new hold for a mental 5 count prior to grabbing the hold. This will force you to concentrate on maintaining 3 points of connection, climbing static, and it'll work your stabilization muscles a bit.

  • Find a route you consider moderately easy and climb it while only allowing yourself to move your hand when that associated hip is touching the wall (i.e. you can only move your right hand to a new hold if your right hip is touching the wall, then left hand/left hip, repeat.) This will force you to place your weight on your toes and pivot around them, rather than climbing splay-footed as many newbies do.

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BillyGoatAl · 6 years ago

No private lessons! Watch climbing YouTubers like Mani the Monkey and Magnus Mitdbo, David McLeod. They have nice instructional videos.

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illegalsmile27 · 6 years ago

Slab climbing will force you to use foster better footwork. It will improve trusting feet, comfort on smaller holds, and general smearing.

Slab climbing is a technician's game.

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ootiekat · 6 years ago

When you're warming up on easier stuff, try to climb as static as possible. Place your feet exactly where you want them on the hold and try not to make any adjustments. Same thing goes for your hands. Another similar exercise is to try and climb without making any noise with your foot movements.

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NauticalJack · 6 years ago

And then once you're done with this, climb the same stuff as dynamically as possible, using your momentum to flow through the climb. Play around with different styles, and notice what makes certain types of moves feel easier or harder. At the end of the day, good technique means climbing something as efficiently as you can, and that can look very different depending on the terrain you're on.

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methodclimb · 6 years ago

Best way to improve is to work on your footwork. What does that mean? What is footwork? Footwork is anything you do with your lower body to create/maintain balance. Try standing up and reaching out with your right hand. Now lean in that direction. What happens? You start to fall in that direction unless you use your left leg to counterbalance. With that as a basis, here is the secret to footwork in one simple sentence: If you are reaching with your right hand, you must do something with your right foot (ie, push, hook or flag) and vice versa. Let that sink in. Easy to dismiss this sentence but is the most important rule on footwork. I will be eventually posting videos on this concept.

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New to climbing, any tips appreciated! what helped you as a beginner?

Posted by idkdunnolol · in r/climbergirls · 2 years ago
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this was my first time at a gym! i’ve been outdoor climbing before :), but like the title says, any tips are appreciated, i’ve watched a good amount of videos on techniques and forms but i would still like some help :) thank you in advance!

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Ostfriesennerz441 · 2 years ago

Not much I can add for technique tips but what really helps me is doing climbs again even after sending it. Trying to climb more smoothly, thinking about which hand and which foot on what hold next.

Watching a lot of youtube videos on technique, but not all at once, watch 1-2 on a certain technique and then try at the gym!

Also keep those precious beginner videos, it will be so motivating seeing how much you've grown. :)

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idkdunnolol · OP · 2 years ago

i took up on your advice and i’ve done the same climbs a few times already! im too scared to record tho haha maybe i will soon, thank you!

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Im_-_Confused · 2 years ago

If I can also add with repetition, after a climb think about parts you can do better, can I place my feet better? Are my arms and hands good? How can I climb this more effectively? You're already recording yourself as you climb which helps see what you're doing good and what can be fixed. Maybe also check out some YouTube videos about climbing techniques and beginner stuff. All this comes with time but you're doing great so far!

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La_corda_art · 2 years ago

Yeah absolutely! Do the same boulder a few times even after you've topped it to experiment and learn how to optimise moves. Works wonders!

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sleepydruid · 2 years ago

Neil Greshams Climbing Masterclass! Really set me up for success when I first started ten years ago.

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[deleted] · 2 years ago

Personally I needed to climb for about a year before the masterclass was interesting and informative to me. I think if I'd watched it earlier than that it would have been solving problems I didn't yet have. YMMV

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idkdunnolol · OP · 2 years ago

thank you for the recommendation! i’ve been watching it for the past day and i like how he introduces different holds/ foot positions

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njp9 · 2 years ago

OP, this is what you're looking for. These videos will explain and show how to use your body to do the things others are suggesting. For the specific problem in the video you shared the twist-lock section will probably be most helpful. The twist-lock is one of the biggest game changers for new climbers.

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Tan-Squirrel · 2 years ago

Still a bit of a beginner. Working towards V-4, almost there. Do core exercises, this will allow you stay closer to the wall and improve balance (especially when reaching). Learn to smear, you do not always need a foothold (core, core, core). Downclimb routes. This improves endurance and you start to look at your feet more. A big part of climbing is foot placement, use those legs as they are your strongest muscles.

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idkdunnolol · OP · 2 years ago

i actually just bought a pull-up bar to improve my pull ups , maybe i could also use it to work my core, thank you!

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ThrowawayMasonryBee · 2 years ago

Planning ahead before starting the climb definitely helps. Then again, sometimes guessing where to go whilst on the wall and trying to correct the inevitable mistakes can be pretty fun too

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440_Hz · 2 years ago

Is getting close to the wall still a priority in overhanging sections? With straight arms I end up swinging around like a monkey.

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Started climbing three weeks ago. Any advice on techniques to work on?

Posted by BoardSmooth4865 · in r/bouldering · 4 months ago
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I started climbing around three weeks ago. Just wondering if there’s any techniques it’s clear I need to work on that are going to limit me on harder climbs. Any other advice would also be appreciated. Thanks!

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nilleF · 4 months ago

Just keep climbing, looks fine.

Buy some beginner shoes, they'll be way better than rentals.

Also that's what's called a French start, you moved your hand off the start hold before you took your foot off the ground. You need to be off the ground before you move from the start holds.

If you're into YouTube videos, I prefer 'movement for climbers' channel for learning techniques.

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ZarathustraWakes · 4 months ago

If you're good with old school pre-HD videos, Neil Greshams Climbing Masterclass series on youtube is really useful and information dense, and has some good case studies of all the techniques he teaches. Found it the most useful of all the resources on youtube and I watched them all (Shout out to Mani the Monkey and Movement for Climbers for also being great).

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Merlins_beard420 · 4 months ago

I felt the beginner shoes comment to my core.

I had zero confidence cause my feet kept slipping in rentals but as soon as I bought my own, I was using footholds I wouldn't have prior.

Makes a big difference.

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glordicus1 · 4 months ago

Shoes cost the same as like a month of membership 😔

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random_dude_c · 4 months ago

Your technique is absolutely amazing for the time you are climbing. I dont know if you are as comfortable on steeper terrain, maybe you can improve there? In general, try all angles and hold types available in your gym.

Invest in a pair of climbing shoes. Stay away from the high end models (aggressive, really soft and downturned) and buy ones that fit snuggly but are not painful. Otherwise you might not be able to load your feet properly and cant utilize the technique of yours.

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minecraftenjoy3r · 4 months ago

your technique is great for two weeks, just not a legal start as other comments have said

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RavingGigaChad · 4 months ago

Agree to that. Knowing how to start a problem properly will teach a lot about technique.

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Parad1gmSh1ft · 4 months ago

Excellent foot work and control for being three weeks in!

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tradlobster · 4 months ago

Your footwork is looking great for being new to climbing, keep that up.

You cheated the start by jumping off the mat to next hold, try to establish on the wall first before moving off starting holds.

At this point just keep climbing and be sure to try climbs that don't suit you/seem uncomfortable e.g. overhangs, more dynamic movement etc. Getting a big variety of experience is most important right now.

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Is rock climbing a necessary first step to begin mountaineering? (and more beginner gear related questions)

Posted by makeshiftswift · in r/Mountaineering · 3 years ago

Hi everyone, I am hoping to start mountaineering this summer and plan to take a couple of introductory courses. None of the mountaineering courses require climbing experience, and they do not teach rock climbing. Some of them teach pitched climbing on snow and ice, short pitching and roping on rock, and general rock and rope skills, but nowhere does it seem like climbing is necessary.

What I am wondering, is when previous climbing experience becomes necessary, and is it possible to learn alpine rock climbing (with mountaineering boots and crampons rather than climbing shoes) without learning trad climbing?

The reason I ask is because I do not have a lot of money to spend. I am ready to purchase mountaineering boots and crampons, but would rather not purchase rock climbing shoes.

When it comes to gear, what stuff can be bought used? I am currently thinking I will probably buy my boots and ropes new, but may get ice axes and crampons used. Most climbing equipment, when I get to that stage, I plan to buy new.

I have lots of backpacking, scrambling and camping experience, but no experience with snow travel or anything to do with rock climbing or mountaineering.

I suppose the main reason for this post is because I am wondering if I should get climbing specific shoes and learn and practice trad climbing before attempting to learn climbing with mountaineering boots and crampons. (also any beginner or gear advice and advice on how to get gear cheaper is greatly appreciated). Thanks!

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[deleted] · 3 years ago

I mean, definitely very helpful to have taken climbing classes. If you’re taking lessons for mountaineering they will teach you all of the rope / climbing you need. It’s very different from typical climbing until you get into pretty insane, pure rock face kind of stuff. Really depends on the type of mountaineering you plan to do. Some ascents are straight up rock faced - most are not.

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makeshiftswift · OP · 3 years ago

Thanks, I assumed it would be pretty beneficial. In the future I do want to do some mountaineering that is pretty challenging in terms of actual climbing. I have seen videos of mountaineers climbing those near vertical faces with crampons and boots, so I wondered if it would be possible to learn climbing entirely that way.

That kind of stuff is pretty far in my future, so I figured if I was going to buy climbing shoes and start learning trad climbing I should do it now.

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WhiskeyFF · 3 years ago

Just my 2c as I’m just a single pitch sport/trad climber 11 months out of the year. There’s no way I’d be comfortable enough to climb anything in boots or crampons. Even scrambling certain 4th/easy 5th class terrain can be questionable for some. And I want as little questions as possible if I’m on a mountaineering trip. Plus as you progress your climbing rope management becomes much easier.

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[deleted] · 3 years ago

I should add - It really depends on your situation as well - if you’re far from the mountains - climbing and running may very well be the only ways you have to condition yourself. I found ice climbing much better practice and I’m very happy to have paid the money to rent gear and try that out before I had my own gear.

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SmellLikeSheepSpirit · 3 years ago

I did mountaineering for years before I got into rock.

Even then I only did it because I was moving further from the mountains and my climbing partners.

I will say that being at least an intermediate rock climber helps a lot with mountaineering though.

My recommendation is don't worry about rock in year one. Mountainnering is about so much more than climbing technique at first. Then maybe year 2 consider some rock shoes and a gym pass to refine your rock skills while putting the other skills into practice in the hills.

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2Big_Patriot · 3 years ago

Instead of thinking about skills and gear first, look into peaks that you want to do short-term and dream ones for long term. Get the gear you need for the immediate stuff and build up the skills and experience for the big stuff you dream of.

Repeat this process as you find new goals or realize you don’t want to do some of the peaks you had thought you would enjoy.

What are your short and long-term goals?

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makeshiftswift · OP · 3 years ago

Thanks, that seems like a good way to look at it.

The main reason I want to get into mountaineering is so that I can summit mountains in winter. I am in western Canada so there are an abundance of mountains around me but only a few months in the summer to hike them without snow. Not a lot require super technical stuff.

Longer term I definitely do want to learn climbing. A mountain range that has particularly interested me is the Bugaboos which is a lot of alpine climbing. I figure that will come in the next year or more when I have more money, or at least that's the hope.

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2Big_Patriot · 3 years ago

You are in an area with so many gorgeous mountains. One of the best places in the world Lots of great trip reports from Song-meister to see the amazing peaks in BC and Alberta. Rock climbing, glacier travel, snow/ice climbing, and skiing are all good skills to learn for your area. Definitely need to be a good climber for the Bugaboos.

https://stevensong.com/

Heading up myself to the highpoint of BC next week if the weather and glaciers cooperate. I am excited!

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mortalwombat- · 3 years ago

Two things: first, you don't have to get into rock climbing. While it certainly has value, it's not a requirement by any means. One of my main partners doesn't rock climb and the only place I notice it non-rock/ice routes is that he tends to be a little less comfortable with exposure.

Second thing: mountaineering is expensive, so prep yourself. You are going to need boots, crampons, at least one axe, warm clothing, a 4 season tent, a warm sleeping bag, insulated sleeping pad, stove, snowshoes, etc etc etc. Then you will end up wanted to buy duplicates of a lot of that gear for colder trips. Now add in ropes and stuff for more technical routes. You can space these purchases out and build your gear selection as you gain experience.

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makeshiftswift · OP · 3 years ago

Thanks, that's good to know. My main concern with getting all the rock specific climbing gear is the cost.

Fortunately, I have somethings like snowshoes, sleeping bag, sleeping pad, and stove, but I may need some better gear and I am realizing that my tent may not be 4 season, and of course all the technical equipment. I am planning to do it over time and get it from cites like backcountry.com and geartrade.com, so I hope to cut costs as much as I can while still being safe.

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iamamountaingoat · 3 years ago

No, I started basic mountaineering/glacier travel first and got into rock climbing (and skiing) later. It’s a really common progression here in the PNW.

Eventually you’re going to want to learn to rock climb because it’s just way cooler feeling to climb a technical alpine route than a walk-up, and it opens up so many more options for you in terms of route selection. But that came come later.

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makeshiftswift · OP · 3 years ago

Thanks for letting me know. I am in western Canada so similar area. A lot of the mountains closer to me are not technical enough to warrant actual climbing, so it may be something that I progress into. It does seem like a way cooler way to get up a mountain, so definitely something for the future.

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Posted by CATS_ARE_GASES · in r/climbergirls · 5 months ago

Hey girlies ! I’ve been wanting to get into rock climbing for a long time now and I’ve finally decided to try to just do it. Got myself a harness a grigri and some shoes I have an indoor rock climbing gym near by (just wish it was cheaper 💀). This is all a first for me. So I guess I’m just posting to ask for advice. Different ways to train my finger strength for a better climbing time and tips you might have wish you knew when you first started.

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Perfect_Jacket_9232 · 5 months ago

Welcome to climbing! It’s brilliant fun.

On finger strength, you don’t need to train it specifically when you start, it comes as part of time on the wall. There are devices called hangboards which people use to hang by their fingers but they aren’t generally recommended until you’ve been climbing for a year or so.

I wish I’d dialled in decent technique earlier, like focussing on leg strength and positioning as this sets up a good foundation. I’d recommend watching the Hannah Morris videos with Coach Be as they show the basics and drills really well. I still sit and think feet, hips, hand as I climb.

Other than that, realising falling is a good thing. Climbing tends to be failing and falling a lot. It’s a good thing to be comfortable with, to know how to do safely, and to also reflect on why it happened so you can improve on your next attempt.

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CATS_ARE_GASES · OP · 5 months ago

Thank you I appreciate it! I’ve been worried about not being in good enough shape and I’m assuming at the gym I should target basically every muscle group 😅

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Perfect_Jacket_9232 · 5 months ago

We all started somewhere! One huge upside of the climbing community is that it is really supportive. People don’t care what shape you’re in or how well/hard you are climbing, just that you’re having a good time.

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randomnaes · 5 months ago

Not sure why someone downvoted you on this. Anyone can climb regardless of how "in shape" you think you are. When I started climbing, I noticed quick gains in my biceps, forearms, lats and calves. A lot of core is used too. I don't notice quads, hamstrings, or low back being used often. (I boulder, so you may have a different experience rope climbing-- not sure if quads are used more for longer routes.)

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nancylyn · 5 months ago

Personally I would learn how to belay with an ATC before jumping right to a grigri. Learning on an ATC will teach you good and safe habits that you might not really internalized if you start with a grigri.

Otherwise just climb, remember to use your feet and legs and not to rely on your arms to pull yourself up. And don’t climb too much immediately. Lots of new climbers get elbow tendinitis from over gripping and climbing a lot early on. Look at some ways to stretch your forearms and warm up before climbing.

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Ok_Substance_6410 · 5 months ago

I started climbing last year and I can’t get enough of it now. When I’m not climbing I’m watching climbing videos, it’s addictive haha! I think right now for your first few times don’t worry too much about strength or technique (I mean obviously it’ll be helpful to learn the best way to climb and things not to do etc.), I’d say just focus on having fun and seeing how it feels. Do you have someone who can show you the ropes (pun intended)?

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Pandanona · 5 months ago

Only mistake I made was believing that shoes are supposed to be painfully small beyond my own comfort. I have 34.5 shoe size and maybe scaling doesn't work well with that size anymore. First pair was exactly in my street size and they hurt me so much that I subconsciously avoided weighting my feet. But everyone was keeping reassuring me that climbing shoes are supposed to be uncomfortable. After almost a year of misery I finally decided to get another pair much bigger than my street size (scarpa origins 36) and FINALLY started to actually enjoy climbing. I wore of them quickly and got myself 35 tarantulas and I'm slowly thinking about getting back to my first pair. But I had to learn to use my feet again, creating stupidly large gap between using my feet and other elements of general climbing technique. So I'm advocating comfortable shoes now, as new climbers don't need that level of aggressiveness in the beginning.

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gracefulontheheelys · 5 months ago

My main advice for a new climber would be to watch your feet, be very deliberate and gentle with how you place your feet, make sure you use your toes as opposed to the middle of your foot, and most importantly remember to BREATHE, the rest will come with time, but knowing how to use your feet is probably going to be the most efficient way to progress.

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Posted by Waste-Finish-9814 · in r/climbergirls · 4 months ago

hello i am new to climbing (specifically bouldering) but am looking to try doing it more to embrace the fear of heights & to become a stronger climber for scrambling.

i am trying to build by climbing mostly alone

any tips on how to approach climbing below would be rly appreciated !

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Quiet_Wait_6 · 4 months ago

https://youtu.be/h5Oxp9qujeE?si=-H_hesWhbLyHQY2s

Look at the the advice that Louis gives Maggie, V1 - V3 Climber. It's been super super helpful to my mentality with climbing. Especially, the "expect it to be scary, but just do it scared".

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EELovesMidkemia · 4 months ago

Depending on how bad the fear of heights is, you could do what I get my mate to do. He has the worst fear of heights of anyone I have met, so what I do is get him to pick a climb and go as high as he is willing to get then next time get time to go one higher each time.

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Papillon468 · 4 months ago

Same here and my goal is not to flash the climb, but not stressing myself with my fear.

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hache-moncour · 4 months ago

This is good advice I think. 

You can also try practicing intentional falls, starting just a foot off the ground, and get used to the feeling of falling, and rolling onto your back. Doing that may also help when a real fall happens, to not freeze up but automatically land and absorb the fall correctly.

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OwnRegister1582 · 4 months ago

This helped me a lot when I started out! Totally recommend:)

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montagnana_nana · 4 months ago

If you're bouldering at a gym, I suggest you practice controlled falls.

You climb like a meter high and fall rolling back. When you're fine with this, you do it just a bit higher and so on. Do this for a few weeks until you're used to falling safely and only climb up to heights you're comfortable falling from.

In no time, you'll build muscle memory on how to fall properly and will feel safer about bouldering!

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kalamatazoo · 4 months ago

I’m in a similar boat - new to bouldering, terrified of heights. In the very beginning especially, I tended to “freeze” partway up a climb if I got too in my head about the height. What helped the most was setting a rule that whenever that happened, I had to practice an intentional fall, if safe to do so, from right there - no down climbing allowed. It’s really helped me calibrate how high I actually am on the wall. I’ve needed it less and less, but I still practice it sometimes as I progress!

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Waste-Finish-9814 · OP · 4 months ago

yesssss lets get after climbing more as newbies “tgt” 🙏✨

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Waste-Finish-9814 · OP · 4 months ago

thank you everyone for the advice!!! i will def add intentional falling and doing it scared into my arsenal of things to practice 😊🙏🙏

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Intermediate and Advanced Climbers: How did you learn your technique?

Posted by ExtremeApart5423 · in r/climbergirls · 2 months ago

Hi everyone,

I've been climbing for 2 months. I love it but I've noticed I've not improved whatsoever even though I've been going 3 times a week. I'm stuck at exactly the same level I arrived with: everyone congratulated me because it wasn't bad for a beginner (my gym has 6 levels, I could do all the 2nd level ones and just a few of the 3rd level). However, after all this time I've come to realise it was because I had been going to the gym to strength train for a year prior to that, so my strength helped a ton.

Soooo, how did you guys work on your technique on your own?? Any drills, please?? Just climbing isn't doing it for me, like at all. I have a lot of problems with crimps (I find them impossible, my fingers aren't strong enough) and drop knees. How would you recommend working on that and on other techniques? I've watched tons of videos but then once I get to the routes I don't even know what to do

Thanks a lot!!!!

Ps. I love this sport and I'm not frustrated at all, but I would just really like to learn the technique so pls don't tell me not to worry about it as a beginner/for now haha

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togtogtog · 2 months ago

Do you boulder or do routes?

A great thing to do is to watch other climbers on the routes you are doing, especially ones which feel hard to you.

Also, 2 months is not very long to develop that awareness of your body. It's all very well watching videos, but you have to actually feel your body in those positions.

Instead of just trying to get up the wall, try climbing slowly and mindfully, feeling how each position and movement feels. Try pushing with your legs, rather than pulling with your arms. Try to keep your arms straight, and hand off them, rather than pulling yourself up with them. And feel where your centre of gravity is - over your feet in an ideal world.

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ExtremeApart5423 · OP · 2 months ago

I'm sorry but I'm neither a native nor do I know the jargon yet. I'm guessing boulder means inside and routes outside? I do it inside at the climbing gym, both vertical and inclined walls without a harness.

I have improved on slabs, I've just realised I couldn't do that at the beginning (as long as the holds are easy to grab).

Sounds good, I'll try to be mindful when climbing and do it slowly, thank you so so much.

As for finger strength, will it come naturally from climbing often or should I specifically train it?

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togtogtog · 2 months ago

Boulder means short routes, without a rope, usually over big squishy mats.

Routes, you usually use a harness and rope.

Sounds like you are doing bouldering, which is good, as it is easy to watch other people and also to chat to them and get ideas and tips.

Finger strength: your fingers actually have no muscles in them. The muscles controlling them are all in your forearms. They will strengthen with time, but good technique will mean you need less strength anyway.

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Crazy_Caver · 2 months ago

Bouldering is what you‘re doing, without a harness over mats. Routes are the climbs you do with a rope.

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Alsoar · 2 months ago

Redo climbs, but this time think how could I make this easier for me?

And as someone else suggested, film yourself. How you actually look on the wall is often not what you thought at all. And it's a good way to see any mistakes and what you could do differently or better.

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ExtremeApart5423 · OP · 2 months ago

I really really like that advice about thinking how to make it easier!! I tend not to redo climbs, but when I do, I just do it lol. Thanks a lot!!!

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that_outdoor_chick · 2 months ago

Wait till you're on a plateau for years... but seriously now, technique, not power. Climb more consistently with intention. 2 months are nothing, you have just scratched the surface. The improvement might be quick for some, longer for others but in the end we don't progress infinitely, otherwise all of us will climb Burden of Dreams. You'll see progress but 2 months to want to be advanced is very ambitious.

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ExtremeApart5423 · OP · 2 months ago

I don't want to be advanced at all in two months!!! I was just asking for advice from those with good technique so I can understand how it is learnt in this sport. Everyone tells me my technique sucks, a guy even laughed at me today doing one of my climbs, so I asked for advice on how to do the same with better technique and he said he had none

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that_outdoor_chick · 2 months ago

Genuinely watch others climb and try to make same movements. It’s not a fast progression sport. Look at popular channels on social media, you can spot what’s common; power from legs, precision, outstretched arms, movement of the center of mass close to the wall.

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GlassBraid · 2 months ago

I learned from a few different things.

  1. Technique videos on youtube. The first ones that clicked for me were the "Neal Gresham Climbing Masterclass" ones... these are kind of old school but still really good. I also really like Anna Hazelnutt's "Chaotic brain thoughts" shorts, where she gives voiceovers of what she's thinking moment to moment as she climbs. Other folks whose stuff I like are Richarson's Climbing, Louis Parkinson, Hannah Morris, Movement for Climbers, Send Edition. All these folks have some stuff I learned from and some stuff that didn't really click for me, I think it's good to shop around a bit.
  2. Specifically making myself try every technique I learn about until I start to do them naturally. e.g. at one point I decided to look around my gym for every place where I could do a toe hook easily, and do it. After just a little bit of that I started to see them and use them naturally without having to think about it.
  3. Watching excellent climbers and trying to anticipate what they will do before they do it. This can be climbing videos or comps or just watching the most graceful folks at the gym. It's like having a teaching quiz... try to read a move, get instant feedback on whether the climber read it the same way
  4. My favorite exercise ever: get on a wall somewhere with lots of great holds and not too big a crowd, and just try to stay on the wall as long as possible. I started doing this a while ago as a warmup and endurance exercise, and it turned out to be amazing for technique too. I move around slowly, lingering after each move until the new position starts to feel tiring, not following any particular route or with any particular goal in mind except staying on and exploring the available space. This is good for technique because it requires efficiency in both static positions and in movement, and my body gives me continuous feedback in the form of tired or uncomfortable muscles and joints, telling me how I can do better. Because I'm not focused on trying to tick a climb, my attention can be on feeling out the least strenuous positions and movements with no distractions. Because I'm moving slow, if I'm not in an efficient position, a tired muscle will tell me what to fix. And because I'm favoring good holds, I have enough time to hang around figuring out beneficial micro-adjustments instead of trying to figure it out in a rush while about to fall off of things I can barely hold onto.
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shrewess · 2 months ago

Watch YouTube videos of pros climbing. Your brain will absorb the movement and techniques on a subconscious level and it will improve your climbing. You can also watch specific videos on technique, but I find that less fun haha

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GlassBraid · 2 months ago

Yeah, with 2, it's a way to take something from being just something I've watched a video on, and turning that into kind of usable knowledge you're talking about.

It's easy to watch a technique video, and then just fall back into the same habitual body movements as before. That kind of feels like, "my brain knows it, but my body doesn't know it yet." To teach it to my body, I have to do it. So say I just watched a video on how to do a rockover... it's worth taking a few minutes just looking for places to try rockovers and just making myself do as many as I can. In some places it will feel good and useful, in other places, it won't. Feeling the difference teaches me when to do it, what it's good for, and what the limitations are. It really doesn't take long of "forcing" a move like this to turn it into a natural part of my movement vocabulary, but doing at least a few minutes of deliberately trying each new technique is important, otherwise it's really hard to know when to even try it.

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rock climbing techniques for beginners

Key Techniques for Beginner Rock Climbers

  1. Footwork:

    • Precision: Focus on placing your feet accurately on footholds. Use the front of your shoes for better grip.
    • Balance: Keep your weight over your feet to maintain balance and reduce strain on your arms.
  2. Body Positioning:

    • Center of Gravity: Keep your hips close to the wall to maintain balance and reduce the load on your arms.
    • Flagging: Extend one leg out to the side to counterbalance your body and maintain stability.
  3. Handholds:

    • Grip Types: Familiarize yourself with different grips (crimps, slopers, jugs) and use the appropriate grip for each hold.
    • Relaxed Grip: Try to keep your grip relaxed to conserve energy and avoid fatigue.
  4. Climbing Technique:

    • Dynamic vs. Static Moves: Use dynamic movements (jumping to a hold) when necessary, but practice static moves (reaching slowly) for better control.
    • Resting: Take advantage of ledges and larger holds to rest your arms and regain energy.
  5. Route Reading:

    • Plan Your Moves: Before you start climbing, take a moment to assess the route and plan your sequence of moves.
    • Look for Alternatives: Be flexible and ready to adapt your plan as you climb.

Recommendations:

  • Practice Regularly: Consistent practice will help you improve your skills and build strength.
  • Climb with Others: Partnering with more experienced climbers can provide valuable tips and feedback.
  • Take a Class: Consider taking a beginner climbing class to learn proper techniques and safety measures from a qualified instructor.

By focusing on these techniques and practicing regularly, you'll build a solid foundation for your rock climbing journey!

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