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What is the Backstory of Pennywise in It

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The Backstory of Pennywise in "It"

Origin and Nature

Pennywise, also known as "It," is an ancient cosmic entity that landed on Earth from outer space, specifically from a dimension referred to as the "Todash Darkness" or primordial chaos [4:2][5:4]. In Stephen King's universe, Pennywise is depicted as a malevolent force that embodies chaos, with its rival being Maturin the Turtle, representing order [4:7]. Pennywise is not just a clown but a shapeshifter capable of bending reality and altering memories, feeding primarily on fear [4].

Historical Presence

Pennywise has been terrorizing the town of Derry for centuries, possibly since prehistoric times [5:4]. Its presence in Derry is marked by cycles of violence and horror every 27 years. The character's costume includes historic touches to emphasize its long-standing existence [5]. Despite its terrifying appearance as a clown, Pennywise's true form is more akin to a giant spider-like creature, suggesting a primordial god-like nature [5:3].

Connection to Other Works

Stephen King often interconnects his stories, and Pennywise is no exception. References to Pennywise appear in other King novels, such as "Dreamcatcher" and "11/22/63," indicating its pervasive influence across different timelines and narratives [4:3][5:2]. The concept of Pennywise aligns with themes found in H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos, which King has acknowledged as an influence on his work [4:10].

Cultural Impact

Pennywise's character has become iconic in horror literature and film. Bill Skarsgård's portrayal in the recent adaptations has been noted for its visceral and terrifying interpretation [1]. The character's ability to instigate evil impulses and manipulate the residents of Derry adds layers to its horror, making it a memorable villain [3:3].

Overall, Pennywise remains one of Stephen King's most complex and enduring creations, symbolizing the eternal struggle between chaos and order, fear and courage.

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IT: Welcome To Derry Teaser details have been released!

Posted by ZookeepergameThin334 · in r/ItTheMovie · 1 month ago
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I don't know if I can spoil anything here especially since it's been like 15 minutes since details officially came out but I'll give it a shot. Mods, I do apologize of I'm bordering any rule breaking stuff.

Pennywise is absolutely VISCERAL and Skarsgard meant it when he said Pennywise is more hardcore. These first 10 minutes, although I didn't see it, sound a lot more... terrifying than a lot of things we got in the IT movies. New details also include that Chris Chalk is playing DICK HALLORAN from THE SHINING. I theorize that Andy is setting up a larger, expanded Stephen King universe and is possibly going to remake The Shining. More details here: https://ew.com/it-welcome-to-derry-first-10-minutes-comic-con-screening-11779724

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Snoo_83425 · 1 month ago

If this show does well it would be nice if it can help revive the Overlook series.

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kkfosonroblox · 1 month ago

Bro didn’t even let the kid leave the town😭

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ZookeepergameThin334 · OP · 1 month ago

Nickelsmart really materialized a whole car and a family just to catch a kid 😭

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kkfosonroblox · 1 month ago

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Clear_Score_6299 · 1 month ago

I’m so excited about this!!!

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Question about IT: Welcome to Derry

Posted by ZookeepergameThin334 · in r/ItTheMovie · 2 months ago

First off, do you think Pennywise will look different in Season 1 or in any other seasons? And what do you think is the most likely scenario to happen to the kids at the end of the 1962 cycle?

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Clear_Score_6299 · 2 months ago

I think one of the kids is Mikes dad so they won’t kill everybody off in the first season. I agree though that Pennywise will be more alien the further back we go.

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Distinct_Guess3350 · 2 months ago

From the brief clip at the end of the trailer, I think this Pennywise will look the same, but I think it will get slightly different the further back we go. Season 3, if it were to happen would be set in 1908 and maybe he’d have a more Bob Gray human look to him.

In terms of the fate of the kids, I think one season will have everyone dying, the rest would kill off one or two and have the rest leave Derry or live in terror. Afterwards.

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ZookeepergameThin334 · OP · 2 months ago

To me, Pennywises head looks a little more egg shaped and "smoother" but it's probably the lighting.

Skarsgard did say this Pennywise would be hardcore so I'm thinking that the ending to S1 might not be too pleasant.

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Distinct_Guess3350 · 2 months ago

Yeah, I’m hoping that he stays powerful, unfazed and terrifying. It may be a prequel, but it can still make up for the final battle of IT: Chapter Two by getting Pennywise right. I hope he’s terrifying. 

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IT Chapter One, Pennywise can be seen stalking the boys in the mural in the alleyway...

Posted by SteveMK88 · in r/MovieDetails · 6 years ago
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DiscusFever · 6 years ago

I saw this post, and thought I'd watch it again. Just noticed something new for me. When Ben is in the library looking up the history of Derry, you see an old woman putting books away behind him. But as soon as he opens this one book, she turns and watched him. Each time they show her she seems to get a little closer and is staring intently at Ben, smiling kinda like Pennywise.

Probably been noticed before, but I just saw it.

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hankosheppard · 6 years ago

Plus, the mural depicts something that is mentioned in the book... in the 30's Pennywise instigated evil impulses on the people of the town, so the entire city gun down two cars with a few criminals that where passing by the town for gas.

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SteveMK88 · OP · 6 years ago

Cool I never realized that. Pretty awesome!!!

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JMJimmy · 6 years ago

IIRC he appears somewhere like that every time before he appears

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SteveMK88 · OP · 6 years ago

If you think I'm gonna rewatch the film again to check for hidden pennywise's, you're absolutely right brb

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JMJimmy · 6 years ago

Also, that scene is even creepier because he appears as the kid leans over.. https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieDetails/comments/8h079v/it_2017_in_the_suck_the_wound_scene_pennywise/

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hankosheppard · 6 years ago

yeah yeah.. I was just simplifying.. The thing is, it is a very memorable part of the book, it is cool that they got to put this little nod in the movie.

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

That's a great way to describe it. I'm in the minority because I didn't really like it. The whole movie was build up but in the end none of the kids were killed to set it up for the sequel.

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GooseShaw · 6 years ago

Honestly with all the humour I thought it was more like a coming of age movie than it was a horror

Kinda reminded me of stand by me, mixed with a bit of the conjuring I guess

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SteveMK88 · OP · 6 years ago

Its not too scary. Horror doesn't really bother me, but if there's one thing I can say about the movie, it's FUNNY! Intentionally!!

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bubbasaurusREX · 6 years ago

There were two moments in the theater I laughed out loud and I laughed alone both times. I thought that movie was both scary and hilarious.

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Pliskin01 · 6 years ago

I must say, I spent about a minute zooming in to try and find him in the second pic... The way it's framed, I couldn't tell it was the same mural/location.

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Headcanon: Pennywise is a Warp entity

Posted by FourSquareRedHead · in r/40kLore · 5 years ago

I just got back from watching the second It film, and the thought occurred to me that Pennywise might be more that just your run-of-the-mill monster or killer clown. He might be a daemon or some other form of Warp creature.

What we know about Pennywise: An unknown creature that fell to Earth from outer space. It has the powers to shape shift, bend reality, and alter people's memories. As we can also see in the films and novel, it is fueled by people's emotions, mainly fear.

What we know about Warp entities: Largely unknown creatures that prey upon those of the material universe. They all have some form of abilities that people would call supernatural. They are fueled/created by people's emotions, and generally cause Chaos wherever they go.

For further evidence, let's look at how a daemon is defeated. While a stereotypical daemon in 40k can be killed by physical means, this is usually extremely challenging if not outright impossible. One of the more effective ways to combat a daemon is by throwing psykers at them. Many daemons are vulnerable to psychic attacks.

Now, how about It? SPOILERS for It Chapter 2: >!Pennywise is first seen as being hurt by a spear that Eddie throws. The spear did damage, we're lead to believe, because Eddie "believed" that the spear could kill It. Shortly thereafter, the rest of the main characters (potentially early psykers?) defeat Pennywise by mocking it and depriving it of the fear It requires to survive!<

Anyways, there's by random midnight musing.

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Dreamspitter · 5 years ago

Pennywise feeds on fear and came from the primordial or Todash Darkness. In 40k terms its somewhat like the Warp. There are also weaker beings like IT/Pennywise/Robert Gray -including Dandelo/Joseph Collins, The Library Policeman/Ardelia Lortz, Tak the Outsider, and of course..........THE CRIMSON KING.

Now Stephen King was a fan of the band King Crimson. GW was too. 40k launched in 1984 IIRC the same year King published his Dark Tower series introducing The Crimson King.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrsW--Sh7YE

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Also, Magnus did nothing wrong.

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[deleted] · 5 years ago

Is that the Mr. Gray from Dreamcatcher? If so, was it confirmed that he was IT?

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Dreamspitter · 5 years ago

No, but it's a name Pennywise used. All shapeshifter entities seem to have "many names" ,

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IHaveManyNames

Thing is "Pennywise Lives!" has been seen as graffiti in Derry as Mr. Gray passes through in Dreamcatcher. They don't seem to be related but there are other books that reference the clown.

http://forreadingaddicts.co.uk/adaptations/pennywise-4-unlikely-king-novels-reference-clown/20739

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SomeDuderr · 5 years ago

>Magnus did nothing wrong

Not empty-quoting this

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ProfWilliam82 · 5 years ago

Well i think Pennywise just some lesser Daemon from the warp. In W40K A single Grey Knight can kill him easily. :)

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AcetylcholineAgonist · 5 years ago

Haha! I'm loving that image. Nemesis to the face!

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mark_i · 5 years ago

Are the new It films any good ?

I have a wife that hates horror films so i have to fit them in when she's not around.

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FourSquareRedHead · OP · 5 years ago

It was alright. It has its scary moments, but also a bit of comedy (except I’m not sure if comedy is what they were going for in some spots.)

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Nellez_ · 5 years ago

I mean in the book it's stated that he's the primordial embodiment of chaos, with his rival, the turtle, being the embodiment of order.

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buckyluckykentucky · 5 years ago

Didn't the turtle shit him into existence or am I remembering that wrong? It's been a very long time since I read It.

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Dreamspitter · 5 years ago

No. The turtle Maturin VOMITED our UNIVERSE into existence.

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The Universe.

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The clown is the Turtles rival (The Turtle being a Beam Guardian) and only equal. But they couldnt manage to kill one another.

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THE_PHYS · 5 years ago

Stephen King actually relied heavily on HP Lovecraft material and some of his characters can be traced directly back to the Cthulhu Mythos

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Pennywise's costume includes historic touches to emphasize how long he's been around

Posted by PennywiseACDC · in r/MovieDetails · 6 years ago
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rontor · 6 years ago

I have a theory that he doesn't leave Derry, ever, he just escapes to different times. The method through which he moves is the same method accidentally discovered in 2011 in the book 11-22-63. It's the right time, and the right city.

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

That's interesting.

Also the Hulu series 11.22.63 is fantastic, give it a watch if you're able.

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rontor · 6 years ago

I stopped watching it because it was so moronic.

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SonicLightning · 6 years ago

Her*(possibly)

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PennywiseACDC · OP · 6 years ago

Spoilers, kinda

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WnderMike · 6 years ago

Pennywise is a girl? I thought he was some sort of primordial god that looked like a giant spider or some shit. I’ve never read the book but I think I may have to.

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SonicLightning · 6 years ago

The book and first movie/miniseries has been out for while now. It’s like saying the plot twist of The Sixth Sense is spoilers. Even if you didn’t watch the movie you have somehow heard about it

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holycowrap · 6 years ago

In the book there's a part where they discover he's been around since pretty much the prehistoric era. Landed on earth from an asteroid or something

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PennywiseACDC · OP · 6 years ago

But, the movie doesn't really specific when Pennywise got to Derry

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

The movie only covered the first half of the book.

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holycowrap · 6 years ago

right, they left that out

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darthdog876 · 6 years ago

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I seriously hope that Welcome to Derry is far more unhinged and darker

Posted by Poweredkingbear · in r/stephenking · 1 month ago

I think one of the best ways to separate this show from the movies or Stranger Things for that matter is by leaning on a more darker approach where none of the main characters have plot armor this time and power of friendship won't be enough to fight off Pennywise just to make the story interesting. The movies or Stranger Things did those perfecty ,but it would nice to have nice change of pace this time.

Also it would be a great way to explain why none of the characters from the new show showed up to help in the movies because they're probably dead or moved out of Derry.

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Little-Efficiency336 · 1 month ago

Me too. Hopefully being in a tv show format will mean that they’ll be able to do more.

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Poweredkingbear · OP · 1 month ago

Also there's no point of getting the audience emotionally attached and want more of these characters since they will only show up for one season. They just need to have the characters be relatable enough to root for them ,but still have this gut feeling that all of them will die just like in The Final Destination movies. The writers should go all in really to have more creative kills and make Pennywise's presence more terrifying.

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Little-Efficiency336 · 1 month ago

Yeah it’s kinda like GOT; you can’t get attached to a character.

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kkfosonroblox · 1 month ago

I mean one kid literally died in the first 10mins of the first episode in a pretty gruesome way, also the only ways these kids win is if they force pennywise into early hibernation or leave the town.

Pennywise will definitely kill off some of the main cast, I’m more interested to see how the “mind battle” plays out between dick halloran and pennywise

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CharlesLoren · 1 month ago

I hope that they get rid of whatever humor they were going for in Chapter 2. While it was entertaining, it took away from the horror aspect of it

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Much_Refrigerator495 · 1 month ago

That’s actually what I enjoyed about both IT films was the humor, it’s why although I prefer the book I still enjoy the films for that reason

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CharlesLoren · 1 month ago

I enjoyed it in Chapter 1; the bond the kids had was actually very much like the book. Something about the adults just didn’t jive the same for me. Maybe the acting 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Poweredkingbear · OP · 1 month ago

The trailer for the new show seems to be more serious and had zero jokes at all compared to the trailer for It Chapter 1 because they literally included the scene of Georgie hitting his head on that barricade thingy LOL.

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Squigglepig52 · 1 month ago

The humour in King stories is integral to it. King's books have tons of humour, TV always ignores it and goes full grimdark.

Hell, the story "Everything's Eventual" has a lot of humour in it.

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CharlesLoren · 1 month ago

Oh I know, but Chapter 2’s style was not up to par with how King blends humor and horror

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Squigglepig52 · 1 month ago

The problem will end up being they ignore all the humour and low key small town/city stuff that brings King's stories to life.

That was the problem with "Castle Rock" - all grim, all the time. No humour, no absurdity.

Gotta include things like manipulating Mr Grey with bacon sandwiches,shit-bombs, Fuck me Freddy and kiss my bender!

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Disaster-Bee · 1 month ago

I think this is probably what we're going to get, since the series covers the former cycles of Pennywise. And we know from the book that very few people directly involved in the major events survived. We know how devastating the Black Spot incident was, and how upsetting. I'd hope they wouldn't choose to cover the former cycles and then shy away from how brutal they were. And the trailers so far indicate it will be very dark and heavy on actual horror.

But we won't know till it airs.

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In the highly anticipated origin story, It Begins (2025), for some reason Pennywise spends most of the film flying around in a cape and working at a newspaper.

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miner1512 · 1 month ago

Is that even Pennywise they look nothing alike

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noctalla · OP · 1 month ago

True, but honestly, I thought not going the whole "clown makeup" route was a refreshing take on the character.

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Abh1laShinigami · 1 month ago

He'll earn it in the sequels if I had to guess. I'm tired of that trope, but I think IT kinda works here

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Dry-Mission-5542 · 1 month ago

Still a better prequel than the Hobbit Trilogy!

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Let_Me_Bang_Bro58 · 1 month ago

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Ok here’s The thing

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Regular-Guest-1284 · 1 month ago

What time is it?

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Let_Me_Bang_Bro58 · 1 month ago

Idk like 2:54 pm

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MrSFedora · 1 month ago

That's fantastic.

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sidestephen · 1 month ago

https://preview.redd.it/juov3w24szhf1.jpeg?width=919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=781710974826ee5d5629fdeff2f91563a5ea702c

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Svfen · 1 month ago

Is he reporting on the children he eats?

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TheShychopath · 1 month ago

No. They changed the plot here. He is keeping a secret harem in this one.

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Arbrax · 1 month ago

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It was especially terrifying for me, all because of the name of one little town in Maine

Posted by CullenDogs · in r/stephenking · 4 months ago

If you've read It (which I'm assuming a lot of people on this sub have) you'll know that it's set in Derry. You may also know that Derry ME, is named after the city of Derry in Northern Ireland. I had family in Derry as a child, and being a child (and being stupid) I strongly believed Penny-wise would eat me every time we went there. It took about 5 years from me discovering where Penny-wise lives to finally realising the truth, and it's left me with some wonderful memories of being scared out of my wits. Thanks Stevie! (Funnily enough, It is now my favourite book I've ever read!)

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Weird-Hair3624 · 3 months ago

You think that's scary, I live in maine and have been here my entire life. Also my dad read us It at a very young age I couldn't sleep for a while

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So, the whole time Pennywise was. . .? (Spoiler)

Posted by T1S9A2R6 · in r/ItTheMovie · 5 years ago

An alien/extraterrestrial?

I’d been aware of It and Pennywise as a cultural thing for decades, despite having never read the book or seen the original series, but I was really surprised upon seeing IT Chapter 2, that “It” in fact came to earth from outer space. I always assumed Pennywise was your standard malevolent demon/spirit. Mind blown.

I guess it works though. Very Lovecraftian.

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Nightwing5244 · 5 years ago

I think it's more then that. At least in the book its indicated that IT originated from somewhere beyond the universe. Obviously, the movies doesn't take it that far. But, I believe saying IT is just an alien is unstatment.

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DumpsterDarwin93 · 5 years ago

I agree. In the book, Bill and (Richie?) have a vision of where IT came from. In their vision, the best their minds could do to comprehend where IT can from was to create an image of IT arriving on some sort of supernatural asteroid. However, they both agreed that it didn’t really seem like a literal asteroid; instead, it felt like a metaphor for saying that it came from outside of this world.

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Nightwing5244 · 5 years ago

If you're talking about the smoke hole, then it was Mike and Ritchie.

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SuperSubwoofer · 5 years ago

In the book IT is almost like a god of some kind. At least, that's how I interpreted it.

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ciano232 · 5 years ago

This. Absolutely this. It wasn't your standard alien falls to earth scene, it was like the devil himself had rose from hell.

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[deleted] · 5 years ago

Alien just means a being not of this native origin.

He could be a demon from the pits of hell, or a wizard from a far off dimension of Narnia, and he'd still technically be considered an alien. I think the cosmic elements of the story denotes alien moreso than it does for my examples but still.

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Nightwing5244 · 5 years ago

Right. But, I think the poster might space alien which isn't necessarily accurate.

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JohnLocke815 · 5 years ago

Additionally, in the book, pennywise is a female, or at least able to be pregnant/produce children

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Mystery-time-lady · 5 years ago

Yeah the closest form to IT'S actual appearance that we humans can comprehend on Earth (and in our dimension) is a giant spider-like creature, and that creature is the female. I loved that reveal at the end it felt so shocking and impactful.

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[deleted] · 5 years ago

You're correct, the finale of the book is very Lovecraftian. Stephen King felt done with horror at the time, and wanted to write one last book in the genre in which he would explore all kinds of horror, like a final exam. Including Lovecraft, one of his big influences. It's real form is incomprehensible for humans, described as a vast crawling, hairy, orange light in the black void of the Macroverse. Very inspired by The Colour Out Of Space (and The Man with the X-ray Eyes). You could say It is more eldritch abomination than alien.

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dissonance79 · 5 years ago

He is a creature from the primordial soup of the universe. Hangs out in what’s called Todash space.

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Horror_Author_JMM · 5 years ago

If you can take the time to read the book. Worth it. I've read it three times and it gets better each time.

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What is the backstory of Pennywise in It

Key Considerations about Pennywise in "It":

  1. Origin: Pennywise, also known as "It," is a shape-shifting entity that feeds on fear, primarily targeting children. The character originates from Stephen King's 1986 novel "It."

  2. Cosmic Entity: Pennywise is not just a clown; it is an ancient cosmic being that has existed for millions of years. It takes the form of whatever its victims fear most, often appearing as a clown to lure children.

  3. Derry, Maine: The story is set in the fictional town of Derry, where Pennywise awakens approximately every 27 years to feed on the town's children. The cyclical nature of its appearances is a key aspect of the narrative.

  4. The Losers' Club: A group of children, known as the Losers' Club, confronts Pennywise during its reign of terror. Their bond and shared experiences of trauma and bullying help them face their fears and ultimately challenge It.

  5. Symbolism: Pennywise represents the loss of innocence and the darker aspects of childhood fears. The character embodies the idea that fear can manifest in various forms, and confronting it is essential for personal growth.

Takeaway: Pennywise serves as a complex antagonist that symbolizes deeper themes of fear, trauma, and the power of friendship. Understanding its backstory enriches the narrative and highlights the psychological elements of King's work.

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