TL;DR
Coconut Husk and Cypress Mulch
Coconut husk is frequently recommended due to its ability to maintain humidity without molding [1:5]
[2:2]. It can be used in combination with other substrates like sphagnum moss or eco earth for enhanced moisture retention
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[3:3]. Cypress mulch is another favored option, praised for its burrowing capabilities and humidity maintenance
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[4:1]. However, it's worth noting that cypress mulch may have environmental concerns
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Eco Earth and ReptiChip
Eco Earth, made from coconut fiber, is appreciated for its humidity retention and aesthetic appeal [5:2]. ReptiChip, another coconut-based substrate, is noted for its superior humidity control compared to cypress mulch
[5:3]. A blend of coco husk on top with loose soil like Eco Earth on the bottom can effectively hold humidity
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Bioactive vs. Non-Bioactive Setups
For those interested in bioactive setups, creating a drainage layer topped with soil and live plants can be beneficial [5:1]. Adding springtails and isopods helps maintain cleanliness and balance within the enclosure. Non-bioactive setups typically rely on substrates like coconut husk or ReptiChip
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Environmental Considerations
It's important to avoid substrates like cedar, pine, and aspen due to their inability to retain humidity and potential mold issues [2]. Some users suggest purchasing gardening-grade substrates to save costs, though caution is advised regarding potential pest problems
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Right now he has a green carpet like floor, I’m not sure if that’s the best for my champ.
I use coconut husk/fibres and sphagnum moss. To this you could instead use bark or add a bit of topsoil. I know some people use eco earth and it works well if you are willing to spend the extra $.
If it matters to you, these are the most environmentally friendly options. Cypress mulch works well as a substrate but sadly is very damaging to the environment.
Hope this helps!
Yes, thank you!
i like orchid bark but it’s down to personal preference my advise would be to make sure it’s something with bigger pieces so that dust doesn’t get stuck in pits
It’s very dry where I live so I mix Forest Floor with ground coconut and sprinkle in sphagnum moss :)
coconut Husk is my personal favorite
I use Cypress Mulch. It’s good at keeping humidity and is easy for them to burrow through. It can be hard to find but I’ve been using it for 2 years now and haven’t had any problems.
Thanks!
I'm getting a ball python soon but the one thing I haven't decided yet is what substrate I will be using. I'm staying away from cedar and pine substrates as instructed, and won't be using aspen either as it doesn't keep humidity up well.
I currently own a crested gecko, for him I use Coco fibre substrate with orchid bark on top which does the job nicely.
What substrates should I use for a ball python and how should I arrange them (i.e. will I need bark on top, do I need to mix with water)
your substrate should be moisture-friendly and resistant to mold, but if your enclosure is set up properly you shouldn't need to use damp substrate to maintain adequate humidity. are you using a glass tank with a screen top? modified storage tub? pvc reptile cage?
Not entirely sure yet but thinking about getting one of those repti-home tanks? So wood with a glass window/door.
i haven't personally seen/used those, as they're more of a european thing and i'm in the US. but from what i've gathered, these enclosures don't have a ton of ventilation - which is a good thing. humidity control is mostly about controlling the air flow, and you only need a total of about 6 square inches / 15 square centimeters of ventilation to ensure fresh air for your snake.
so, with all that said, i would recommend something like cypress mulch or coconut husk mulch [not coconut fiber], but use it dry.
I use coconut fiber for my two. Haven’t had any issues out of it
For my crested I mix the coco with water and place orchid bark on top. Can you just break it up and put it on the bottom of the tank?
Absolutely. Try to strain as much water from it as you can first, leaving it damp but not soupy and it should work fine
I am very new to having a bp and I have been told countless time that Aspen is a no go
I don't remember why but I think it had something to do with the fact that it can grow mold easier then other
I am currently using loose coconut fibers
I use aspen. It’s naturally humid in my location, so I struggle to get my humidity below 75% with it. Coconut husk and the likes with be way too high. I don’t have problems with mold unless the snake manages to spill some water and I don’t clean it up the next morning.
So i guess the type of substrate you should use depends on where you live
Interesting
It also doesn’t hold humidity well. The first few weeks, I had my first ball on aspen and her first shed was terrible. It came off in in pieces from her belly, and she had patches of stuck shed on her back and face. I tossed the aspen, switched to coco husk, and have had no more problems with stuck sheds.
im getting my bp in a week and yea im thinking about using coco husk, along with something else like reptisoil.. just want whats best but still figuring it out
I use reptibark. holds humidity well, top layer dries out quick to prevent scale rot. only problem is storing it. I would need three bags of it to fill my bps tank, or half of one breeder block, and the block is cheaper. but, that means I have to store the wet breeder block in an airtight container. mold has a field day with that. I've never had a mold issue with it in her tank, just storing it. I waste 15 dollars some months (the block is 30, if I recall correctly). but again, as to why I recommend it: holds humidity well, great price (probably fill 2 or 3 forty gallon tanks or multiple tubs with one breeder block), scale rot, if substrate is done right, should be a non issue. why I dont: some people have reported their reptibark being infested with mites. now, they're normally wood mites, harmless to snakes, but keep that in mind. and 2, it's a bitch to clean! I use a lot to keep the humidity up, and I have a tank, so scooping all of it out takes a toll on your back lmao. but those are my two cents. wishing you and your snake the best of health!
Is it possible to dry out the unused substrate before you store it?
possibly, but not that I know of. I actually checked my stored bark and it dried out by itself. other times that hasn't happened. so I got lucky, but it's risky. as long as you check the bark for mold before you put it in (after it's been stored), you should be safe. but I'd rather lose 15 bucks on a 30 buck block than spend 60-80 every month
I use biodude. He sends packaged stuff for 20 and 40 gallon tanks
I stand by forrest floor mixed with eco earth
is forest floor just cypress mulch?
Yes but if you plan on buying cypress mulch by itself don't ever buy anything that says it's a blend
I have used coconut husk (can not recommend, my bp hated the texture and it turned her entire enclosure into a big game of "the floor is lava"), than I switched to reptile soil (a brick made out of coconut, that expands if you put it in water). That worked well, my snake was okay with it, but the top layer dried out quickly and turned dusty, so I had to spray it down twice a day and mix through it with my hand to keep it nice and fluffy. Now I use kiln dried european pine and it's the best so far. The top layer dries quick after spraying, but it doesn't get dusty and the substrate below retains humidity for hours, preventing big humidity spikes and drops. The texture is finer than coconut husk, but not as fine as reptile soil. My Bp likes it, she digs through it and lays on it comfortably. It is very important however, that you use kiln dried european pine, because american species produce more oils and are also often not kiln dried, which can cause skin and respiratory irritations if used as substrate. If you life in America it might be hard to find. Good pine bedding should not be dusty and only have a mild, earthy smell to it.
I use two parts eco earth, one part repti chip typically, coco coir and coco husk. Bottom inch just eco, then 2 inches of eco and chip mixed in a 2:1 ratio than an inch of just chip on top for a dry layer. Looks are subjective but my humidity is good and in the mornings I can see where she's being borrowing in the night
I use a combination of coconut and cypress. Our Care Guide has a complete list of acceptable substrates if you'd like more options: https://www.reddit.com/r/ballpython/comments/arz5iw/welcome_to_rballpython_click_here_for_our/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
As stated in the title I'm picking up this beautiful boy at the reptile show coming up! I kept ball pythons as a teen(now 10 years ago) and was wondering what substrate is best for keeping these lovlies on? When I had my last all the rage was the repticarpet. Which has now been found to just harbor bacteria. So that's a no go
I personally use coco-fiber. I find it holds humidity well without molding and isn't too dusty like other substrates I've tried. I also really like how it looks.
For non-bioactive I use coconut husk. Reptichip is a good example.
I have one BP that I keep in a bioactive enclosure. If you go this route you will want to create a drainage layer, and then a soil layer on top. You can buy pre-made soil or mix up your own. In this you will plant your live foliage (making sure it is snake safe) and add springtails and isopods.
Love reptichip. Switching from cypress mulch, huge diffrence in holding humidity.
Whatever substrate you get… it’s a whole hell of a lot cheaper to get items that are branded towards gardening and not reptiles. You’ll pay a quarter the price and since organic growing is big you’ll find a lot of clean good products.
Edit: I didn’t realize I was replying to a comment 😟 lol meant to just comment on the post
Do you have to bake the soil first..? Sometimes organic soil comes with issues (mold spores, flies). Maybe certain brands are better than others but I've seen horror stories in gardening groups
Coconut husk is widely used. In my experience, Coco Blox has molded easily so I’d recommend ReptiChip. A blend of coco husk on top with a loose soil like Eco Earth on the bottom holds humidity really well
Bioactive or non-bioactive?
I'm open to all suggestions:)
Thanks for the snek tax
I just got my first ball python at an expo today. I’m wondering from the hobbyists what I should use for substrate?? There are so many mixed opinions on it.
He’s currently in a 10 gallon but I’m steam cleaning my 40 right now that I’ll put him in with tons of clutter. (He’s 10 months old, 6.25.24)
Can anyone share the ideal temp ranges, humidity, and substrate? Thank you!!🤗
For substrate i like to use a 50/50 mix of coco husk chip and coco fiber but coco husk by itself also works fine. For temps, it should be 87-90° on the warm side/75-80° on the cool side and for humidity ideally you want it to be around 70-80% but 60% is the minimum
Also i’d recommend joining r/ballpython if you haven’t, they have a lot of helpful resources for new owners in their pinned post :)
Found this website which seems like it might have answers to a lot of your questions.
Tank size: “According to the latest recommendations released by the Federation of Herpetologists, ball python enclosure should be at least 0.9 x 0.45 x 0.3 times the snake’s length.”
Humidity: “…the sweet spot for humidity is 50%-60%. If it gets too humid, it can lead to skin or respiratory issues. However, when they shed, the humidity can be raised to 70%-75% to help them shed their old outer skin more easily.”
Substrate: “Ball pythons need a thick layer of substrate to cushion their bodies. It’s best to choose materials that retain moisture effectively and resist mold, such as coconut fiber, reptile carpet, organic topsoil, etc. Avoid using cedar shavings or poplar savings.”
Hope this helps, and have fun with the new friend you’ve brought home!
Had a ball when I was younger. He lived for 8 years, I did a ton of research, and I still learned a lot when I had him. I now have more than enough income, and can take care of these future snakes very, very well. Just want to know what’s best for substrate. I know aspen bedding is NOT.
these are fine but would need to be mixed with a thicker substrate. like reptichip. i use fiber as a bottom layer and then a nice layer of chips on top. that way the fiber doesn’t get dusty and it will keep humidity at 70+ without having the top of the substrate damp.
If you have more than enough income and want to take care of them very well, get them some bio dude terra firma. It's the red carpet of substrates.
I wasn’t planning on putting any real plants or anything, I have an absolutely AWFUL green thumb, any plant me or my wife touches doesn’t make it. So is the bio active bedding good to go with even if I’m not doing the plants? Also, if I do get BioDude, would the 36 quart bag be enough for a 4x2x2 enclosure? I’m looking to get the Dubia Enclosure?
you'd need at least 2x as much. Their website recommends 4 36 qt bags for a 4x2x2. I wouldn't spring for the biodude mix if you're not doing bioactive. It's very expensive for how much you get, and without a bioactive setup you'll have to do full substrate changes several times a year. If you want something soil-like you can make a similar substrate on your own much cheaper.
For my 4x2x2s I just get a 10lb block of coco fiber or chips. The big block is kind of a pain to rehydrate, but it makes the right amount of substrate for one enclosure. AFAIK people generally prefer coco chips to fiber for ball pythons - the fiber can clog up their heat pits.
Yes, I think it's fine even if you're not bioactive. You can still add springtails and isopods and leaf litter even if youre not plant people, though. Not sure about bag size. I personally use a mix of cypress mulch, coco fiber, and sphagnum moss.
Just FYI, Dubia is on the lower end of quality. Flimsy and doesn't hold humidity great. I personally would suggest making a larger better investment. My favorite brand is Black Box Cages, but I've heard good things about Toad Ranch and Animal Plastics as well. Maybe look second hand for better PVC 4x2x2s as well.
Either or both of these are fine! Personally I don't like reptisoil because it has a bit more odor to it from the peat moss and carbon in it, but that's just personal preference!
Check out our welcome post, the basic care guide and shopping list will give you lots of options for substrate, enclosures and everything else.
Thanks for the info. I’ll prolly lean towards the brick then!
You may want to mix the coco fiber with something else, because it can get quite dusty and dry. Coco chips, cypress mulch, or sphagnum moss are all good choices.
The coconut fiber works well for me! I mix it with the chips!
Thank you!
Hello! I plan to upgrade my ball pythons tank a bit, I've never been happy with his current one. I was really inexperienced when I made it and I want to do better! I want a soil that he can burrow through if he so pleases and that I can dig some premade ones out just to allow him more room. So far I have playsand, excavator clay substrate, and coconut husks (I'm debating on using this, I'm not a big fan of it). Which I think will do good on the burrow ability side of it, but I also need soil for humidity and to hold it all together. I know coconut fibre is used a lot so I'm definitely interested in it, but was wondering if there's anything I could use along with it. Or anything I should use along with it!
From my understanding in the wild they don't really make their own but live in one's made by mammals. So they will be happy as long as they have places to hide.
I'm aware of that, but I have noticed in the past that when given the option my BP likes to do some digging + I would really like to dig some premade ones out for him.
Hi everyone,
I was hoping to get some advice on a good and affordable substrate? I have 10 enclosures that are 4x2x3 that I need to fill with substrate. I could probably spend about $300 or so max.
I want to use something that will hold humidity without molding quickly.
Curious to see what others think would be the best option.
Pic of one of the enclosure sets prior to being sealed and finished.
This is kinda of a lot of stuff but it’s only around 80$ and it holds humidity AMAZINGLY for me. Play sand, top soil, coco fiber, peat moss and sphagnum moss most of the stuff comes it really big bags so I don’t think you would need to buy anything twice
I use reptisoil coco blocks!:)
Wow this is cool. Did you make sure it can hold the weight?
Yes! That was really important lol. The “floors” on the inside are made of a hardy wood. We bolted it to the wall just to make sure it’s super stable.
Yeah, I couldn't tell if it was just plywood or something so I figured I'd ask
Thank you for everyone’s suggestions! I’m going to look into all of them and hopefully get these set up before mid month. :)
I use a mix of sterile potting soil and coconut fiber.
Got my guy a 55 gallon to upgrade to but haven’t been having luck with his usual substrate. He has shed stuck on his head and neck. I’ve been using reptibark
Glass enclosures are very hard to keep the humidity up. You will want to cover most of the screen lid with tin foil to seal in moisture. You can also make the substrate deeper (at least 3 inches). I do an organic top soil mix, moisture should be like a moist cake texture. Top layer I like using reptichip or orchid bark. You want your top layer dry to the touch to prevent rot.
A big or extra water dishes help too.
For the mean time you can add a humid hide with damp spaghum moss to help him get off that stuck stuff while the overall humidity in the enclosure stabilizes
I like a topsoil mix. Additive free topsoil (Scott's is good if you're in the US), with some play sand and some cypress and/or coconut mulch. I do those in about a 65/10/25 ratio. It's easy to mix and manage, and it's cheap. The mulch is the most expensive part of the blend, especially if you use reptile brands.
What is the best substrate for a ball python enclosure
Key Considerations for Ball Python Substrate:
Humidity Control: Ball pythons thrive in environments with 50-60% humidity. Choose a substrate that can help maintain this level without becoming overly damp.
Safety: Ensure the substrate is safe and non-toxic. Avoid substrates that can cause impaction if ingested.
Comfort: The substrate should provide a comfortable surface for the snake to move on and burrow into, mimicking their natural habitat.
Ease of Cleaning: Consider how easy it is to clean and replace the substrate. Some substrates may require more maintenance than others.
Aesthetic Appeal: While not crucial, the appearance of the substrate can enhance the overall look of the enclosure.
Recommended Substrates:
Cypress Mulch: Excellent for humidity retention, safe, and provides a natural look. It’s also good for burrowing.
Aspen Shavings: A popular choice that is absorbent and helps control odors. However, it may not retain humidity as well as cypress.
Coconut Fiber (Coir): Retains moisture well and is safe for snakes. It can also be used in combination with other substrates.
Reptile Carpet: A reusable option that is easy to clean but does not retain humidity. It’s best for those who prefer a low-maintenance substrate.
Recommendation: For a balance of humidity control, safety, and comfort, cypress mulch is often considered the best substrate for ball pythons. It mimics their natural environment well and helps maintain the necessary humidity levels.
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