While I don't agree at all with your suggestion, the reply you're getting on this thread are really sad and the reason this game is going downhill.

git gud

u probably feel that way about a lot of things in life.

git gud

It would be way too easy to get gold and games would feel like turbo for carries but the same for supports resulting in even worse support experience. Making last hitting hard creates a better distribution of skill.

One model situation: you got wave pushed under your tower. A 6k+ MMR player would easily get 3 to 4 last hots from those 4 creeps. A 1k MMR player would be very happy to get 1. With your change, both players would always get all 4 creeps as one hit to the creep almost anytime would give them gold.

holy duck these peoples replies are sad af. Anyway, i feel last hitting is pretty fun dude, its the easiest way to see whos more skilled between players. I cant imagine dota without last hitting. If you are having troubles last hitting or find it tedious, play the micro heroes. I think lycan and meepo are most easy to last hit with in a non tedious way. Although they come with a problem of learning to micro(which's difficulty is kinda overrated, its really not that hard when you get the hotkeys set).

Practice last hit training. It's a feature under tutorials in dota. And just play and focus on getting them. Eventually you'll get really good at it. Last hitting also depends on your hero so it just takes time.

It doesn't matter which one you use. What matter is, if you are using it and if you are being consistent in using it?

In this meta isn't that important to be the best lasthitting, you can lose your lane and still being able to win mid game easily. I personally think if the meta does not give advantage to the best laner is a bad meta.

Step1: Go last hit trainer to get familiar with hero atack animation. Get at least 75%. More is better but it depends on hero (some heroes have better base damage and easier to hit)

Step2: Create private lobby with cheats, no bots. Commends to use are -teleport and -stargame (just to start faster).

Get starting items for normal game - go lane You like to learn and take all last hits till 10 minute mark. There will be 80 creeps + catapults. Buy items on the go and deliver them by Courier. You can use abilities if You use them in normal game that way (WK crit for example). Aim for all the 80 creeps at 10 minute mark. Than close lobby and launch again. You will be amazed how hard is to hit 80 CS. Funny part is if You cant get 80CS not beeing harased so how can You get CS against oponents :-) So git gut.

Step3: Let's Play a game.

training polygon bro, it’s an arcade game let’s you practice last hits and many other skills. last hit trainer is kinda average, should let you buy starting items so you have a proper idea of items you’d use ya know

I do the first setting but I think either setting works. The main thing about last hitting is its a skill that can be trained. Training using the same hero again and again will help you understand your limits. Same for last hitting.

Another 2k player here. I use A stop. I have smart attack on so I only have to press A to attack the creep my mouse is hovering. I use A to turn my hero towards the creep. And then I press stop to animation cancel and then A to last hit. I can use this to feint and it’s great for ranged heroes.

Have you seen Bsj’s videos on last hitting? He explains it better than me. Also if you try bsj’s method and it doesn’t work, I wouldn’t give up on it too soon. I had trouble with this when I first started using it and it was because I was last hitting with clicks for years and had to unlearn it while also learning this. These days it’s still a work in progress but it feels more natural and def better than what I was doing before. I’ll link the video below. He starts talking about it around 6 minutes into the video.

https://youtu.be/gaSLmN2JU04

I’m using move and then attack. This allows you to position your self better specially if you want to harass the enemy hero or to avoid being harassed. I also use stop button specially if the hero has long wind up time like lina. I think there’s an option in game that when you click on the ground, you either attack the closes enemy on the place you clicked on or you attack the closes enemy to your hero. Maybe you can use this.

On a sidenote, if you play on windowed full screen mode, you can increase the brightness by 150%. It’s easier to see the creep’s HP bar this way.

BSJ has a vid for this. A stop is pretty much the way to go and it separates your movement (right click) and attack (A)

It's not about the settings. It's about knowing how much damage you do to the minions and how much damage towers/your minions do to the other minions. It's literally just repetition by playing. If you want to improve fast, go into a custom game and practice csing.

Not sure if its hardcoded this way but I get way more consistent aggro/deaggro when I A click vs. right click

It's a world of change for ranged heros. If you misclick a creep while right clicking your hero moves to that spot. But if you misclick while A clicking it will just attack the nearest enemy.

It does take some getting used to but it's invaluable for ranged hero positioning in lane.

So imo (4k player, so make of it what you will) the main advantages of a click vs rightclick for last hitting show up with quick attack move on. It makes pump faking attacks way easier, because it’s all left hand motion and it’s a lot easier to control your mouse precisely when you’re not spam clicking it. Plus, if this is an enemy creep, you can pump fake by just spamming a over and over, only one button needed. It does seem to make aggro easier as well, but I don’t think for a technical reason in game, rather splitting the mechanics accross both hands (right hand only does hover hero>move to where you wanna go>Rightclick) instead of having to click twice, which for me personally is significantly faster and stops me from walking towards the enemy too long.

The long story short is that last hitting is the most common mechanical skill required in dota, and like most mechanical skills the less buttons you need to press the more consistent it’ll be in the long run.

I think it's this video where bsj explains why https://youtu.be/gaSLmN2JU04

Don’t be afraid to use spells to get cs. (Especially for the ranged creep)

Well, if you want a serious answer from me, I'd recommend Purge's video on last hitting.

Pick a ranged hero, hold position, wait until the creep gets low, attack click to hit it and kill it, hold position again.

Once you can comfortably do that then you can start working on walking around in between last hits instead of just standing there.

Once you can do that then try picking up a melee hero and timing it so you walk up to the wave, get there just when it’s time to last hit, kill the creep, and then walk back.

Once you can do all of that then you can start working on doing pump-fakes and animation cancels between attacks.

Lastly note that you can practice on the last hit trainer even while queueing, so there’s no excuse not to.

U need to watch the health and what creep is getting hit by the enemy range creep. Also don't wait afk for CS, cuz enemy will mess with ur last hit. Keep enemy busy while keeping an eye on creep health or aggro at last moment when creep is about to die so that u can get the cs easy.

It's a joke you dimwit. A short answer to a complex question. Tho the right items are important, but it depends on your hero and especially what you are gonna lane against.

You would go mantle of intelligence in that case. Always get the stat item that matches your hero stats. Starting with items that give you your primary stat also gives you damage and this allows you to more easily get last hits. Also important to have higher damage as the enemy can kill last hit their own creeps and deny you gold so you want to be able to last hit when they cant because your damage is higher. Note that this only applies to core heroes, if you are playing support you dont need to buy these items because you shouldn't be last hitting, getting farm isnt your job

As a former drow spammer I just last hit like im orb walking

I saw the BSJ video and tried to implement it, with a little practice it became natural, specially if you already use quickcast, which I do, just practice the little spamming a + d (or the key you use to stop) and it becomes automatic, I wouldn't say it's life-changing but I prefer it this way, the less mouse clicks, the better for me.
Edit: as someone else mentioned, denying and LH feels the same, so you can focus more on just the creeps health bars.

I just right click creeps. No A-click. Its all down to preference and practice, whatever feels more comfotable.

A-click does offer more accuracy, but it also requires some new muscle memory you gotta develop. If you think that's the way to go for you, it's worth it to give it a shot for a while. :)

I A click because then it is identical to denying. It's more intuitive if it's the same

I use A click but have it set to where the minute I hit A it attacks. I use my S key to stop.

So it basically goes something like A click with an immediate S command to stop actually attacking, but positioning my hero for an easy last hit. Then I can juke out my opponent by using the A and S keys and try to secure my last hits and denies.

do damage to the creep when it has HP less than your attack damage

One thing I tried doing was practicing with really low damage heroes, so pick like SF and don't buy any items or level his passive. Then just try last hitting in lane as you normally would. Hope this helps!

I improved a lot by taking noticed of the enemy range creep's target and learning the timing to attack when combined with my attack animation. Also you can start hitting your creeps once they pass under half HP, which is a great way to pull the lane back towards your tower if you start to push out a bit. Just hit them a time or two to get the enemy wave pushing yours slightly and boom, equilibrium restored.

I think the way you get really good at CSing is by playing mid a lot, good mid laners will outCS you even if you have a dmg advantage by smart usage of spells and working with creep aggro. Just play a lot of mid and eventually you'll probably get better at it

ranged creeps deal a lot more dmg than melee. i like to time my lasthits so that they hit right after the range creeps projectile.

Hmm I guess if someone has a lot of final hits atleast to me it shows me that person is probably engaging a lot fighting the enemy team. If someone has low last hits but a lot of damage done while that is still good it would also tell me that person has kinda just fed the enemy healers free ult charge by dealing a lot of damage but not executing kills along with it.

If someone has high damage and high final hits then you are John wick

Your logic is flawed. Even if you charge your dps ults more and you’re still doing less final hits, you’re just super charging even more support ults. Final hits is the most important stat.

Oh I’ve been waiting for a post like this! All stats are meaningless without context. Examples:

Final hits mean nothing if you died in a trade while over-pursuing kills every time with the lowest damage on the team as a dps. Means you left your team into a 5 v 6 because outside those kills that you were trading and probably got a solid ult or 2 you were a non factor while the other person you were trading probably brought some value.

Damage means nothing without more than a final hit or two or even minimal kills because you probably had horrible target priority and just farmed off the tank or spammed into a group just to misuse your ult while feeding the other team’s support ults.

Doesn’t matter if you led the game in healing numbers if all you did was pocket your tanks while letting your other healer and your dps peeling for you die. There is a time and place to heal bot and it’s not when your tanks are at 800 health behind cover. For god sakes look up at your fliers!

Congrats you led the game in damage blocked as you died in the double digits because all you know how to do is move forward and don’t how to use cover. “Ggs no heals” brother 3 support ults couldn’t keep you alive the way you soak up bullets.

Other stats provide extra context and value as well though. Alternatively:

High final hits, low damage blocked. With a middling death count you were probably pretty efficient in securing picks.

High damage, lots of kills participated in. Even a middling amount of final hits means prioritized targets well recognized where to provide pressure and set up kills for your teammates.

High heals, low tank deaths, and lots of assists means you probably kept your dps alive while providing enough heals to your frontline.

If blocked an insane amount of damage and had the lowest amount of deaths it means you pushed and held space appropriately. You probably peeled effectively and kept pressure off your team because if your healers are alive that means you are alive.

Feel free to add any extra inputs!

TL;DR: Context matters. One stat only shows one side of the story.

Any unspent resource towards the objectives is useless. Damage not killing but making people retreat to make your team cap or stall, is sometimes better than a secured kill in an unplayed area.

Most of the time it is right, but it is more complex. Spend your resources on the objectives or it can be useless hence sometimes the better stats don't always win. Because there are no stats on capping or denying cap.

Yeah not shooting tanks at all can be pretty bad too.

You need to farm ult as fast as possible, and you need to keep applying pressure even if you have no LoS on squishes.

Taking moderate damage should be the goal actually, if your healers can keep up, let them charge those ults!

It's so annoying when I'm a support and I get an enemy's health down to like 10, and then the rest of the team doesn't finish them off. And then they sneak away as I reload. Wasted opportunity.

But, (relative) low death count on a tank isn't always good. Maybe you were so low impact that the enemy didn't even look at you while the dps is doing all the heavy lifting, distractions, retaking point, burning enemy cooldowns, making space. As a tank it would be more efficient for the team if you did that instead, and it needs to be done, but you could be solo thor flanking playing like you were panther. You have to take other context into account. Did you win the match?

Final hits means you’re removing a player from the fight

That’s why it’s one of the most important stats. Sure I can do a lot of damage and respectively the enemy team can just keep people healed up and never die. That just means my team is probably gonna lose the fight if I can’t secure kills.