TL;DR Audacity is a robust and free audio editor, but lacks many features found in professional DAWs like Reaper or Pro Tools. For basic editing, it's sufficient, but for advanced music production, other software may be more suitable.
Audacity's Current State
Audacity has undergone significant changes since its acquisition by Muse Group, with mixed opinions on its current state. Some users appreciate the new direction and improved interface [1:2]
[1:5], while others prefer older versions due to perceived simplicity and efficiency
[1:1]. The software remains popular for basic audio editing tasks, but some users report glitches and crashes during long recordings
[1:7].
Comparison with Professional DAWs
Audacity is often compared to professional DAWs like Adobe Audition, Ableton, and Reaper. It lacks many features such as MIDI recording, virtual instruments, effects automation, and advanced mixer capabilities [3:1]. While Audacity is praised for its ease of use and effectiveness in basic editing tasks
[4:2], it falls short in areas critical for comprehensive music production
[5:3].
Alternative Software Recommendations
For those seeking more advanced capabilities, Reaper is frequently recommended as a cost-effective alternative to Pro Tools [5:3]
[5:5]. It offers extensive customization options and stability, making it suitable for serious audio editing
[5:6]. Other alternatives include WavePad and Ocenaudio, which provide user-friendly interfaces and are capable of handling various audio tasks
[4:5].
Suitability for Beginners
Audacity is often recommended for beginners due to its simplicity and free availability [4:2]. However, it is primarily an audio editor and does not support video editing
[4:1]. For those interested in both audio and video editing, software like Camtasia Studio or OpenShot may be more appropriate
[4:4]
[4:3].
In summary, Audacity is a solid choice for basic audio editing, especially for those new to the field or working with limited budgets. However, for more advanced music production or professional studio work, exploring other DAWs like Reaper or Pro Tools might be beneficial.
I'm offering purely my subjective experience with Audacity recently. About 4 years ago, I used Audacity for hundreds of files I edited as part of a call-to-listen system I put together where users can use their phone to listen to a variety of presentations. Audacity was fast, super easy to use, and yielded great results.
I'm now starting another large similar project and headed over to the new Audacity for a download. I installed it, used it, and although it looked similar, I felt like all the handy shortcuts and settings were now more difficult to find. Additionally, the program is less intuitive than previously. It also seemed to hang up more often in my workflow. I was so turned off by these things that I started hunting for an alternative.
I stumbled across Ocenaudio thanks to one of the users here on Reddit (I have no affiliation with them). Extremely fast workflow, keyboard shortcuts, intuitive, and looks great. I liked the program so much that I did something I have never done before—I went to the developer's website and donated to him.
For those who check Reddit, as I do, for tips and helps on selecting programs, I'm offering my opinion and user experience. Hope it helps you.
As someone who has been using Audacity for at least over a decade, it's the best it has ever been. Currently under the ownership of Muse Group (take a look at how good Musescore 4 is now) who is working to completely revamp the interface - for the better.
Audacity is definitely not perfect, it still has some weird glitches and other perks - but I'm hopeful for the direction it's taking.
I think the reason that we are seeing a marked difference of opinion between those that like the new direction under Muse Group vs those that don't, comes down to what people use Audacity for.
I expect that Audacity 4 (a fully muse group app) will be significantly better than Audacity 2 (pre-musegroup) for those that want a simple DAW, though for Mac users, GarageBand offers a lot more, especially with virtual instruments.
On the other hand, there are those of us that use Audacity specifically as an "audio editor" rather than a DAW. I'm in this camp. When I need a DAW, I use a full-featured DAW (there are many available). Full featured DAWs are more complex than Audacity, but are also a lot more powerful. My use of Audacity is when I don't need that extra power, I just need quick and efficient editing, and Audacity used to be excellent for that. It is primarily the loss of focus on editing tasks that has made Audacity more cumbersome for what I actually use it for.
I also have concerns over privacy, commercialisation, and misleading marketing, though these issues are not directly related to the original question.
I'm in Audacity groups here and on Facebook, and they all seem to be populated by people complaining about Audacity. I still find it very easy to use and very robust for a free program.
I will say that Reaper would probably be a better choice for music production, but for most audio work, Audacity is fantastic.
I use Audacity regularly since it's pre 1.0 version.
It's my 'almost-daily' recorder, it never crashes, never hangs... Except when I shut down Jack before saving files.
I'm not ready to replace it by some clones.
Robustness is the worst thing with audacity. If you record 2 hours, it can fail in odd ways. There can be a 'glitch' recorded: a 1/10th of a second glitch and if you play it, Audacity will crash
If your save it, or export it, it will crash.
You have to cut the glitch out, but first you have to find it!
Seriously -
My experience with using it over the years is directly contrary to OP's. The shortcuts and methods are much better organized now, and the nightmare UI/UX is improving steadily. I can't wait for the next version.
Audacity did absolutely have that charming "labor of love" quality for a long time, but that also meant awkward and inconsistent UI.
These types of acquisitions can lead to "ruining" projects at times, but the crew at musescore have done outstanding work and I'm pretty confident that Audacity is in good hands.
The main thing that changed over the last 4 years is that Audacity was acquired by Muse Group (owners of Muse Score and Ultimate Guitar). They seem to be taking it into a more "GarageBand" direction, while OcenAudio remains more like the old Audacity we knew and loved.
Audacity 2.4.2 was the final release of the Audacity 2 series, and is still available from FossHub. I'm sticking with this version until it eventually stops working as it does everything I need and I find it much more streamlined for my workflow.
Thank you so much for this resource, I cannot stand the current version of Audacity!!
I said over and over that Muse owning Audacity would go really poorly, and got downvoted to shit because of it. Ugh
Word. Probably lots of work to be done. Audacity looked like 💩 and the UX probably was too.
thanks for sharing alternatives. What drives me bonkers is having to re-scan audio devices and the general clicks involved in changing my playback setting. Is it the same with this ocenaudio or is this process more seamless?
The cool thing is that old versions (ones that work) can be downloaded and used.
I'm just wondering which features audacity is lacking when compared with audition. Of course, the interface is not friendly in audacity, but what else is it lacking?
Of course, the interface is not friendly in audacity,
Compared to Audition? Can you elaborate on that?
Never tried audition (I opened another thread in their subreddit to compare). This is what I read around and I honestly agree that the interface can be improved a lot with a search bar and with toolbars to select the active effect/plugin. Also, the workflow in audacity is "select, then choose the edit operation". I find myself much better with the opposite, as in any other image/text editing software: choose the operation, choose the region to apply it.
Audacity has changed a lot over the last couple of years, and I've not used Audition for a very long time. The comparisons below are based on what I remember of old Audition, and both Audacity 2 and Audacity 3.
Older versions of Audacity (version 2), was very good for basic audio editing. For power uses, the workflow was generally very efficient. It was my goto editor for basic editing because it enabled me to get a lot done very quickly. It provided a good range of basic effects, though sometimes not quite as good as those in Audition. Noise Reduction and the compressor were noticeably better in Audition. Audacity 2 did not have any "real-time" capability other than "Envelopes" and "Track Pan / Track Gain".
Newer versions of Audacity (version 3), has rudimentary "real-time" processing, though the implementation is a mess compared to Audition. Basic editing has also suffered and has become significantly less streamlined. There is a new compressor effect on the way, which is an improvement on the older version, though still not as good as Audition. "Real-time" time stretch is a nice new feature in Audacity 3, though it has some severe bugs that can corrupt the project.
Audacity remains free and open source, whereas Adobe Audition has gone from expensive to very expensive.
Number One on my wish list for Audacity is to regain the stability, reliability, and efficiency of Audacity 2. Additional new features come a distant second.
i’m new to recording my guitar and drums on this software and know nothing about music production in general except what i pick up while messing about on Audacity. personally i love it! i’m sure it’s far from perfect but for a free product you really can’t argue imo.
interested in what more seasoned music makers think about audacity as tool for ur music
i didnt know about its latency tools, they sound great bc my drum pad has latency and i just adjust it by ear. cheers! yes, im aware of reaper and that its the business, but i havent switched over cos i dont really see the need for a next-level DAW for my hobbyist purposes. also its taken me a while to get comfortable on audacity n i wanna enjoy my level of competence before goin back to square one on another DAW. thanks for the recommendation, its on the list for the future.
Same here. I'm used to Audacity and don't know what I'm missing with other DAWs. I don't know what most of the things are on the list of features Audacity lacks that another person posted. Question is; are those things that would be useful to what I do --- even though I have no idea what they are now?
I've been happy with Audacity but there have been a couple of glitches in the past. The latency is easy to set, but I swear, once I think it changed on me. And to change it you have to go into the preferences and enter a number, and I had no reason to do that. But suddenly the multi-tracked pieces I was working on sounded like crap,, and eventually I figured out the latency was just a bit off. It was easy to reset the latency, and I used "generate/silence" to add a few milliseconds to some tracks that were off. That seems like it was just a one time thing.
Audio editing software, not a DAW*.
No beat grid, while you can detect the beat, it's only going to register when the track audio contains rhythm elements. You can create a drum track to make a pseudo beat grid, but you can't snap to grid and so have to align other tracks manually.
No none-destructive editing. Changes are permanent once enacted. If you perform any effect on a section of a track, it has to be done on a duplicate, or you can kiss the original goodbye. Sure, there is Edit > Undo, but that's not ideal if you only want to reverse an action 10 steps ago but leave the last 9 steps after it as they are. In most DAWs your changes are in real time and can be adjusted or undone until you bounce or mix down to another track. This is why DAWs are often so resource consuming (CPU and RAM) and when a PC isn't up to spec you'll experience choppy playback, software crashes or worse as your track gets more complex and the systems struggles to manage.
* this is all based on versions up to 2.4. I had stability issues after installing 2.4 on my old system, so I stayed with 2.3.3. Then when I built a new PC I reinstalled the same version since the later version improvements were already available to me in the DAWs I use.
I keep Audacity installed to use as a quick and easy audio editor, because that's what it is, or was. I can have a file imported and be working on it in less than 10 seconds after opening the program. When you have a DAW linked to large sound libraries and dozens of plugin folders that need to be scanned the first time you run it after shutdown, you might have to wait 20–30 seconds to start. If all I want to do is loop a section of music to make a 10-second ringtone out of it or reverse a drum hit to hear what it sounds like, then that's what I have Audacity for.
It’s pretty bare bones, but it can get the job done. I did a quick recording for a friend earlier this year. He needed some fills and a solo on a song. I got the tone I wanted through my amp/pedals, miced it up and recorded it through Audacity. He imported it and used it in the track on the album.
Satisfies my needs.
As a DAW, Audacity lacks a huge amount of functionality:
No MIDI recording
No virtual instruments
No controller tracks
No effects automation
Extremely limited mixer
No input / output routing
No support for multiple outputs
Extremely limited MIDI editing
No MIDI channel / patch control
Inflexible Tempo / time signature
No score functionality
No Piano Roll
Extremely limited multi-channel support
...and more
As an audio editor, it is still pretty good, though since version 3, I feel it has lost focus on what it previously excelled at - audio editing.
(Audacity was my goto audio editor since version 1.2, but I am now trying out alternatives - unfortunately there aren't many other options for Linux.)
I am looking for an easy to use entry level software for audio/video editing. Is audacity right for me or is there a better alternative for a beginner?
Thanks.
I started using when my work moved into podcasting. The assumption was that as I was the youngest, I'd be able to figure out the damn computery bits quicker.
Came to it with zero experience, and ended up getting fairly proficient over the years although I've never used it to edit music. None of that's due to any inherent skill on my part, but I found Audacity pretty ease to use and would definitely recommend.
It's free anyway so you might as well give it a go
Mostly, video editing apps have rudimentary audio capabilities, and audio apps do strictly audio only. If you need indepth audio editing, audacity is far and away the best free option; the easiest to use may be WavePad, which I think is about $50.
If you mostly need video work, and just minor audio tweaks like fading in and out,probably the easiest to learn is OpenShot, which is free. It's not the most powerful option out there, but it's quick to learn and may be all you need.
> the easiest to use may be WavePad, which I think is about $50.
Wavepad is shareware you do not have pay unless one wants use the certain capabilities. Ocenaudio and wavosaur are both free and capable.
camtasia studio gives you a nice tool box for video and audio. the audio is pretty limited but there are tutorials for separating the audio and video and editing the audio separately.
I use audacity for voice-over narration and recently tried out reaper. I switched back to audacity. I have the workflow down and the simplicity of it is appealing.
If you are working with spoken-word audio and video, you may want to look at Sonix: https://sonix.ai. You can upload a audio & video file and Sonix will automatically transcribe it. Then you can edit the audio and video simply by editing the text. If you strike out text, this will delete the underlying audio & video.
I am going to try this if only because its cool
Audacity is not going to help you with video. But for audio, it is very comprehensive (it is a destructive editor though) but I like it.
I'm not a VA myself, but I've been doing all the editing for my partner's VA work for about two years in Audacity. I'm wondering if I should upgrade my software I use.
Up until now, my partner records audio drama or instructional voice work with Audacity, then sends me the AUP3 itself and I take it from there. I clean-up the voice track using the Spectral view (I can see plosives and clicks by eye), do cuts where necessary of bad takes, and then start adding effects to the voice track as well as adding sound effects and background on separate tracks. I've gotten very comfortable using Audacity and also use it to record and edit my own physical sound effects. Sometimes when my partner does dramas with other actors, they send my AUP3 files or WAVs and I incorporate them as separate tracks.
Recently, my partner's friend expressed interest in hiring me to do their editing too. The friend up until now has done their own editing, but it takes way too much of their time. They use Ableton Live Lite which I learned I can also get at no cost. However, the friend is completely bewildered by Ableton and only uses it to do the initial recording, then all the rest of their editing in Clipchamp.
Given my situation of a) being familiar with Audacity, and b) needing to work with remote clients who send me voice tracks, is it worth trying to learn Ableton? It looks very hard to understand and seems to be for music, not voice work. The only perk is I don't have to buy it. Or is there another DAW or Editor that would be worth trying?
I've used Audacity for a few years, with some Izotope plugins. I got my effects chains established with the help of an audio engineer. Never had complaints about my audio, only compliments. No clients have ever asked what DAW i use. To record, proof, edit and master my audio takes about 4-5 times the length of the audio, so it's not slow either. Given my success with Audacity so far, no-one has yet provided a convincing argument to change.
Audacity is barebones out the box, and it is up to the user to determine how useful it will be. All about what you put into it to make it work. It's just a waveform at the end of the day.
At the professional studio level, Pro Tools is still the industry standard.
Reaper is 99% as good as Pro Tools for a fraction of the price. Great DAW and if you're serious about editing it's the best option.
Audacity is the MSPaint of the audio world. It's free and easy, but that's where the positives stop. The UI, the workflow, the plugins are all just awful. Don't fall for this trap .
For the others Ableton, Logic, FL, Garage Band, Audition, and CuBase are all more focused on music workflow. Each has their own good/bad beyond that.
Having owned Logic, Pro Tools, Audacity, Cool Edit 2 (back in the day) and as a current decade-long Reaper license holder who worked as a professional studio engineer...
Reaper is 111% of Pro Tools for anyone who isn't running a studio with a full-sized console and outboard gear.
It's SO much more flexible and customizable than Pro Tools will ever be. More stable, too.
Reaper. Hard agree.
I massively recommend Reaper.
I have a config built especially for voice over and audiobooks if you’d like it to try?
https://www.theaudiobookguy.co.uk/post/how-to-set-up-reaper
Cheers
Kev
Reaper rules over all
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
I'm looking for an audio editing softeware I can use to splice and edit multiple tracks. I've used audacity in the past, but am not comfortable reinstalling it after it's acquisition by muse group. My budget for software, single purchase or otherwise is literally zero dollars, and as my ability to effectively google is terrible (especially as google's gets on in years and stopped serving me non-ads years ago), I'd like to humbly request recommendations from y'all.
Since it's relevant to what suggestions can work, I'm running windows 10.
Ardour is a pretty solid open source DAW, but unless you're on Linux, you'll have to pay for an installer (minimum of $1) or build it from source yourself. It can be a bit complicated to get the hang of, although it's a pretty powerful tool in its own right.
But... Just use Audacity. The forks are going to deprecate in a matter of weeks, the "spyware" fearmongering was total bull, and Muse already walked back the offending pull requests, not to mention some slick new features have been added since the acquisition. Unless you're using Tor browser on a locked-down Linux distro with a burner account for Reddit, your privacy has already been invaded several orders of magnitude worse than Audacity's anonymized, opt-in telemetry ever would have done.
I have read there's a fork of Audacity just before acquisition, for just this reason.
"AudMonkey" -- here's some discussion from the time...
https://www.reddit.com/r/audacity/comments/oymx92/audmonkey_audacity_303_fork_without/
just install the audacity version that was available before it was acquired by muse
There are other forks of audacity without its craps, choose which one suits you
I’m going to edit for the first time (just spotting, no mastering etc): which is easiest to use: Audacity or Reaper?
Audacity is easier to use, but if you want to take the time to learn Reaper you won't be disappointed. I've tried all major DAWs over the years and Reaper is by-far my favourite.
I was a newbie when I first started. Now 10 yrs. started with audacity and still using it.
I've not used Reaper. I will share Audacity is very easy to use and does a great job.
Tip: After I record I almost always run the Bass Boos (turned down) and Compression filters under 'Effects'. Cleans up the sound nicely.
Audacity for sure
Reaper has an immense and incredible amount of time saving features that Audacity does not have. It's also a professionally built product that is able to fluidly handle small or large scale products which audacity does not offer.
There is a host of great very detailed step by step information on how to use reaper and even how to set it up for podcasting. I'd highly suggest their 60 day trial and investing the time into the program to learn it, especially if you'd need to learn a different one anyway.
I thought the r/audioengineering subreddit might be interested in this project I just found!
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I use both Audacity and Ardour frequently and I would not bill it as an Audacity alternative. Ardour is a digital audio workstation, which focuses on recording and producing music rather than solely recording audio. It has a much more complex user interface and a more robust signal flow so there's a steep learning curve, which could turn off users who want to quickly and easily edit some audio. Ardour can do everything Audacity can (and a lot more), but for quickly getting up and running to do some basic audio manipulation or sound recording, Audacity is much better in that regard.
Also, Ardour is only free on Linux; unless you are familiar with C++ environments and can work through compiling the source code on Windows and Mac, there is a fee to get the program on those operating systems.
Totally agree - I love Ardour and use it daily but it is NOT the same at all. Even just starting a project is far more complex and has stuff you need to configure, compared to Audacity which just opens and lets you start.
Qtractor and MusE might be better for beginners. They are still DAWs rather than wave editors, but might be a bit less intimidating for some people.
I'd always recommend taking the time to learn Ardour though, ultimately Audacity gets frustrating beyond very simple stuff.
Just understand that Ardour is not free. It doesn't say that anywhere I've been able to find until you get to the download page, though they do hype that they're open source.
What they call the "free" version is crippleware, in truth.
Understand that I have no problem at all paying for software. I hold licenses for Audacity (free), and also Reaper, SoundForge, and Pro Tools. Ok... I have lapsed the PT license, mostly because I'm just tired of AVID, but that's another topic...
However, the approach Ardour is taking is disingenuous, IMO, and I will not do business with them for that reason.
Ardour is free software.
There's nothing wrong with selling free software.
It's available in a lot of GNU/Linux distributions' repositories, such as Arch Linux, by someone who bought Ardour and used their freedom to compile a version that everybody using the distribution can use without payment.
If you use Linux or compile it yourself it’s free
It is free in the most important sense, in that the full source code is available. There is nothing stopping anyone with a little knowledge building and distributing a Windows or OSX version other than their honour.
It should also already be in the package manager on your Linux distro, so it's a one click install for free.
Anyway, you could pay less than a dollar I think for the compiled Windows/OSX version.
Been using Ardour and Harrison Mixbus for years!
For the simple edits i use ocenaudio.
If you accidentally go back in time and use Mac OS 7.1.6~9.2.2, there is SoundEdit 16:
For a very long time, my go-to software for editing audio was Audacity. However, on Linux it has an ugly interface, weird graphical glitches and playback doesn't always work.
Can someone recommend a free and open-source audio-editing program?
Are you sure you’re using the latest version? Ubuntu and Debian repos have 2.4.2 but the latest version appears to be 3.2.0 so if you’re on anything Ubuntu based and installed it from the official repo that might be why it looks odd.
Audacity has always been janky.
Your statement is correct and not relevant
The Debian multimedia repository (deb-multimedia.org) has 3.2.0. This isn't an official Debian repository
I think they froze it because of the telemetry thing
More likely because it was too much trouble to deal with after upstream borked their build system.
No. Telemetry is optional and distro packages don't have it.
Man, i cant believe no one has mentioned lmms yet. I used it for a long time because i could swith between windows and linux and both were compatible. I used to use fl studio way back when, so it was a natural switch for me.
There is Ardour, even if it's a more full blown DAW. If you want to go not FOSS, Cockos Repaer is an amazing DAW and it has a native linux version
Yeah reaper is awesome
Need a bot for this: Q: "can someone recommend" A: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_of_applications/Multimedia#Audio
Audacity is perfectly fine and it looks hella better with the new version which just came along recently with the new icons. Are you sure you are on the latest version?? To make it look good try this: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/05/audacity-dark-flat-theme/amp
Sometimes I like to save a brief soundbite from a podcast or audio track. I'm currently using Audacity for this, but it feels archaic and not very intuitive for me. It's annoying that you have to select the parts of the audio file you want to discard first, instead of just being able to save the needed segment.
Also, why re-encode the audio if I don't change anything but trim it? Basically I'm looking for an Avidemux for audio.
VLC does this.
Get out! How could I have missed this feature all these years. Can I edit out clips from mp4 and mkv without re-rendering them, too? Avidemux is pretty decent, but it's not exactly frame accurate or even second accurate.
It's super powerful and i believe yes you can do all that.
Ocenaudio is my quick go to.
Exactly what I needed, Thanks!
the option to have multiple files on the left bar is perfect for my use case as a "refrence track browser". I have all my reference tracks there and can play them very conveniently.
Great find ❤️
It’s a really good, free, feature complete no nonsense audio files editor.
Ocenaudio: https://www.ocenaudio.com/
Fission does this nicely.
Can agree, but all Rogue Amoeba apps are top tier.
Personally though, I use MPV and encode.lua
I must admit, that they make excellent apps. I use quite a few of them in my workflow, and can only say good things about them.
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audacity vs other audio editors
Key Considerations When Comparing Audacity to Other Audio Editors:
Cost:
User Interface:
Features:
Platform Compatibility:
Community and Support:
Recommendations:
For Beginners: Audacity is an excellent choice due to its zero cost and ease of use. It’s perfect for basic editing and learning audio editing concepts.
For Advanced Users: If you require more advanced features, consider software like Adobe Audition or Reaper. These offer more robust tools for professional audio production.
For Music Production: Logic Pro (macOS) or FL Studio (Windows) are great for music creation and production, offering extensive virtual instruments and effects.
Ultimately, the best choice depends on your specific needs, budget, and level of expertise. If you're just starting out, Audacity is a great way to get your feet wet without any financial commitment.
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