So can I ask why you kept your defense so low? I mean I did for a while too but I made sure to make my defense at least 2700, also I respect the abyssal garment fit I have it on my character too and it's just honestly really cool, but yeah I suppose your going int builds so your more a support character and if your a sniper damage wouldn't be something you plan on taking so i guess it makes sense in that regard I've just gotten knocked down too many times from low defense so i guess I'm just asking why from personal experience.

Hmmm.. You using a sniper? Focus on luck and dex... I think is a good idea... If you want good dmg... But if you want a suggestion... Buy exp boost weapons and accessories either use them or put the chip in your weapons until you have enough points to make a pure build... Your too early to think about max dmg etc...

your still early on that DMG isnt a Important Factor as long as you keep the general weapon progress of around the Weapon Ranks that drop you'll be fine. Prioritize Survivability and Skills before anything else if Survivability isnt needed than Skills > DPS

what game

sweet thankyou ill look

I would like to 2nd this question to anybody listening. As someone who fused Satsneal 25 minutes ago and am already disappointed in his Almighty ability's I was wondering what is the next best thing

Based on balance of Resistances and Stats, I'd say a Grimehkala gun build. But some more on stats like a Berith gun build, a Genbu magic build and more exists.

The thing is that, due to the Gallows, especially, you're not going to see, like, really specific "best builds". Base low-level Personas can be built for better stats, while base high-level Personas typically come with a lot of resistances and few, if any, weaknesses.

So in most cases, it's really just a matter of finding a set you like getting them the passives that will boost their damage and remove any Weaknesses they might have. Everything else is gravy.

WDYM by there's no straightforward fusion calculator?does this not work?

Sorry if there were reposts, it was telling me there was an error so I would make alterations that I thought were in accordance with the guidelines and resubmit. I did not realize even after being given an error message they were still being posted regardless. Again, my apologies

Tech/Adv will carry you through most of the late game bosses by just replacing the blade of a Acidic Spear Handle to suit your needs. As an example, Laxasia is completely shredded by Acidic Spear and Green Monster can be punished by either using Salamander for Phase 1 or Coil for Phase 2. Since throwables also scale with ADV, those will also be more useful-- but it is good enough without it.

If you really don't want ADV, then I found that either a Crit Build with Proof of Humanity or a Strength Build with Wrench + Krat Baton will do you wonders.

That being said, I'm still finding that Frozen Feast is probably the most damage you could do on a single hit without fable use.

If it's your first playthrough (I'm sorry I might've missed it if you mentioned it) Living Puppet Axe with a different Motivity Handle (either damage increase, Crit, or something whose moveset or fable you like) is likely the most accessible.

If you prefer a Crit built, City Spear Handle + Tyrant's blade is your guy (Crit+damage increase).

I don't personally have a lot of experience with Arc and Trident, but people also swear by those.

Bone cutting saw with krat police baton handle strength crank/build or bramble curved sword handle technique crank/build. Just spam charged heavy’s with either. I prefer the latter

Multiple NG+ with low effort? Do you want to play the game or is this like a requirement you have to fill or else somebody is going to kill you or something

motivity, wrench + police baton or Simon ergo weapon.

Bone cutting saw is my favorite thing. It's such good damage. And my go to on all my NG+ runs. Can't remember what handle I'm running.

Honestly, you don't need to have thousands and thousands of hours to make you a build, just use a persona calculator, the calculators will have all the information you'll need, from the recipe of a persona to what abilities they can get. Normal but hard way is this: you'll want to know what you want the persona to have and that it doesn't learn by level (for example a Odin with zio boosts) the way to get it is by looking at the recipe of one of the persona needed for the fusion and knowing what they can learn, if neither of the persona used for recipe learns zio boost then look into the recipe of the recipe until you find one that does learn it and you can just fuse it with another one until you get a persona that is needed for Odin, it sounds like a lot of work, and it is trust me but it helps a lot that the persona calculator also has what personas have and learn certain skills by default so you can just go for Odin and look at the fusions for one persona in the list that shows personas that have zio boost.

Now the easy way? It's literally just slapping the skill cards onto the personas. As someone who likes using other people's builds I had to learn by myself how to do them so it can be done

https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/p3r/recipes can give you the steps to create a persona with X skill

but when it comes to skill mutation stuff you'll have to figure that stuff on your own, the gist is that X arcana + Y arcana always = Z arcana(ie fool + magician = hierophant)

and fusing two persona of the same arcana will make a lower level persona of the same arcana, jack frost + jack o latern = nekomata

that site also has the chart so you can cross reference what arcana combinations makes what

I'm gonna be honest here

People who make those build videos have hundreds of hours of playtime, all spent on just remaking personas over and over again just to get something like victory cry simply because atlas made the dumb decision to make mutation only skills a thing

The way they work is that someone spent days smashing their head against their keyboard grinding skillcards from the reaper to give your persona that one extra buff they don't even need

Basically my advice: don't bother with the builds, if your doing the elizabeth fight just fuse orpheus telos and just Google the ruleset or something other than that these big over the top builds are absolutely not needed and just ruin the fun of combat

neither do i man, getting null light on thanatos took too long just for me to overwrite my save with a merciless NG+ save

You can try infinite heavenly strike build, works in overworld and duels, only thing is to watch out for arrows and unexpected hits

• Versatile Skills
• Mizu-no-Kami
• Inari's Might
• Silence
• Rejuvenation
• Resolve II

You can choose any armor you want, but I recommend staying away from Sarugami if you want to polish your dueling skill. Sarugami will increase Perfect Parry/Dodge window from 0.1 seconds to 0.183 seconds - almost double the original value. Hard to practice with such a huge window.

Go with Mizu-no-Kami; the bonus is smaller (0.1 sec to 0.133 sec) but that's good since shorter window means you can practice your parry timing closer to original.

The most powerful charm in this build (and the entire game) is Versatile Skills. This will double the effect of all your minor charms, as long as they belong in different categories (Melee, Ranged, Defense, Stealth and Utility).

Inari's Might gives you +20 melee damage and +20 health at max charm level, but Versatile Skills will double these bonuses to +40 melee damage and +40 health. Fyi, a fully upgraded Sakai Katana VIII has 70 melee damage, so equipping those two charms will increase your sword damage by more than 50%.

Silence has false description; instead of -15%, this charm will give you -20% enemy detection speed and +30% resolve gain. Just like Inari's Might, you can double its effect to -40% detection speed and +60% resolve gain with Versatile Skills.

Rejuvenation gives you 0.1 resolve every second during combat until you have 2 resolve (or 4, with Versatile Skills). Not very useful during normal fights where you can get more resolve than you ever need, but extremely powerful during boss fight.

Resolve II gives you +25% resolve gain or +50% with Versatile Skills. Combining this with Versatile-Silence will push your resolve gain past the 100% threshold. This is important because a lot of actions such as parry will give you approximately 0.5 resolve. The difference between 0.9 and 1 resolve is night and day: you can't do anything with the former but you can heal or use Heavenly Strike if you have at least 1 resolve.

Check my thread if you want to see more details on the numbers.

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The only real difficulty spike comes due to more multi-AC fights, plus one mission in NG++ where you might want more explosives (but only for one specific mission) - honestly you’ll be totally fine taking this all the way to the end.

Could probably choose a better FCS, and a bigger generator wouldn’t hurt for better mobility in those aforementioned AC fights if you’re being picky!

Not really - while there are a handful of new/alt missions that can have difficulty spikes, NG+ and NG++ especially are overall easier and you'll find yourself breezing through a lot of it.

Instead I'd suggest trying new build styles to see what you can learn from & enjoy about them!

Akihiko get's double the effects from buffs, so an attack buff on him (whether casted by him or a party member) is 2x as powerful. Super potent, what he loses in utility he makes up for in raw damage. His theurgies also deal high damage.

Yukari is a mainstay on the team, good damage, great access to support and heal spells, Masukunda is really fucking useful, especially for golden hands, and her passives from hangouts make all of her healing spells cost way less, meaning she's pumping out Mediarahan's like they're going on sale while still having more than enough MP for damage. Her theurgies are also pretty good, her damage one does good damage, and she can give Concentrate to the whole party with her other theurgy.

Koro has Debilitate, Rebellion, and can give Charge to the whole party, and with how broken Physical is in this game (especially Slash based Physical builds as all Slash boosting and crit boosting passives also boost Scarlet Havoc, making it capable of dealing more damage than Armageddon, I personally had it do 13k damage once) he is a must if you want to put out the most stupid amount of damage possible. He also has Dekunda, pretty useful. EDIT: Koro doesn’t get dekunda, Aigis does, Koro is however still a fucking amazing party member

Junpei is supposedly a crit machine, personally haven't had much luck with him but on paper and from what I have heard he has the ability to crit like it's going out of style. Slash is really good in this game so him being mainly slash focused helps. I have however found that his theurgies aren't that potent :( I may just be using him wrong though.

Mitsuru deals a lot of magic damage even without concentrate that it's silly, and she has an almighty damage debilitate theurgy, giving her concentrate is great. I would say that instead of giving her her ultimate weapon that gives Magic Ability, you instead give her Snow Queen Whip which gives a Magic Stat boost and Ice Amp, since she doesn't learn Ice Amp naturally this is extremely helpful. I also suggest giving her the Spell Master trinket. With this setup she deals a shit ton of damage.

Aigis is a good all-rounder that has access to amazing buffs and deals good damage, only issue is that Aigis and Yukari share a weakness, and since Yukari basically should never be removed from the party, this is an issue, but it's not too bad since you can get equipment to dampen the effects of Lightning on Aigis.

Queen Fuuka is awesome, all her theurgy effects are really good (Full SP Restore, Full Party Heat Riser, Full HP Restore) and the ability to just get the entire weakness spreadsheet of an enemy is really amazing. She can also give you a Defense and Agi boost at the start of battle, a must have for bosses and Golden Hands until you have access to Auto-Ma skills.

Ken is the only one I really don't like skill wise. Heat Riser is neat but since it only affects one party member he might end up just spending his entire time casting it. His Karn skills are useful but I had so many items that did the same thing it didn't matter. He is better at Lightning Damage than Akihiko outside of theurgies though and he has light, so that's neat, and Dekaja is pretty useful. He is my least used Party Member as what he does, another party member does better imo. He can heal but Yukari can heal much better, he can deal damage but he's not the greatest at it, he can use Makarakarn and Tetrakarn but there are enough items with the same effect that it doesn't matter, and he can buff with Heat Riser but since Fuuka can full party heat riser, and Aigis can give both Matarukaja and Marakukaja, I feel he ends up hurting in that aspect as well.

Yukari definitely got heavily buffed. Up to 75% reduction to recovery skill cost and full party concentrate are very good.

Ken's 2nd theurgy definitely looks better on paper than it actually is in-game. Almost any situation where you need the revive is also a situation where Ken is likely the one that needs reviving because he's made of paper. It's the kind of thing you keep in reserve because you're too afraid of using his theurgy bar on just damage and then when you need it Ken is dead and has lost half his gauge. Also the reflect is often pretty useless as most lategame enemies null or even drain their damage element. One of the only exceptions to this is the Reaper so Ken is actually pretty useful for cheesing the Reaper fight early. And even then better make sure you have a big enough homunculus stack because the Reaper loves spamming Mamudoon and Ken is weak to dark.

Yeah Ken is incredible useful in hard fight /long drag fight like Reaper or some of Arcana boss or Nyx itself.

Eh, I feel like Yukari ends up covering that while also outputting good damage, which helps end fights faster and requires less healing and revives.

Plus I have literally never been in the situation where this would’ve been an absolute lifesaver, I’m sure there are uses, I just never found it useful enough. And the sp thing never bothered me in the first place as clocks exist and sp items aren’t as rare as in other games (I have 6 somas lmao) plus it’s really hard to run out of sp in a fight outside of Merciless

Koromaru is pretty much always in my party. Lowers every enemy’s accuracy and evasion at the start of battle, debilitate, full party charge, and best boy.

Junpei's crit dmg/rate boost from his personality makes him a pretty good damage dealer and if you give him any equipment with more crit boost then he'll become even more of Da Man than he already is

great advice :) thanks