TL;DR The Lucid Air is widely regarded as the best model from Lucid Motors, praised for its luxurious features, impressive range, and powerful performance. However, it comes with a high price tag and some concerns about software development.
Lucid Air Features and Performance
The Lucid Air has been celebrated for its luxury and performance, often compared favorably to Tesla models. Owners have noted that the driving experience, ride quality, and handling are superior to Tesla's offerings [1]. The Lucid Air Grand Touring (GT) model, in particular, boasts 820 horsepower and excellent handling, making it a standout choice for those seeking both power and refinement
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Range and Efficiency
One of the most notable features of the Lucid Air is its impressive range. The Grand Touring model can achieve up to 516 miles on a single charge, surpassing many competitors in the EV market [4:1]. Even the more affordable Lucid Air Pure RWD offers a range of 410 miles, which is competitive with higher-end Tesla models
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Pricing and Market Position
The Lucid Air is positioned as a premium vehicle, with prices ranging from $78,900 for the base model to $249,000 for the top-tier versions [4:7]. While this places it in the luxury segment, some users question whether the high price is justified when compared to other luxury brands like Lamborghini or Bentley
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Awards and Recognition
The Lucid Air has received significant recognition, including being a finalist for the "Car of the Year" award by MotorTrend [3] and winning the "Best Car To Buy 2022" by Green Car Reports
[5]. These accolades highlight the car's appeal and the industry's acknowledgment of its quality and innovation.
Challenges and Considerations
Despite its strengths, Lucid faces challenges such as production targets and software development. The company has struggled to meet its sales goals, with only 478 cars sold in August 2023 [2]. Additionally, while the hardware is praised, the software still lags behind competitors like Tesla
[1]. Potential buyers should also be aware of Lucid's ownership structure, as the company is backed by Saudi investors, which may raise ethical considerations for some consumers
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I move up to a AT from a Model S today. My new (to me) 2023 Lucid Air Touring in Qunatum Grey, 21" wheels, glass canopy, Tahoe leather, DDP, and SSP. Absoultely amazing car.
I won't bore you with the usual Lucid to Tesla comparison that's been rehashed here 100 times before, other than to say the way this car rides, drives, and handles is MILES above Tesla, and everyone is right, the Lucid software still has a long way to go to catch up to Tesla.
If you want the best driving car out there, get a Lucid!
Welcome!!! No regerts
I would double upvote this if I could. I say "no regerts" all the time. Love the reference.
Lol glad you caught it!
Congrats and welcome!
Welcome!!!!!
Congrats!
Breathless Car 🚗… Enjoy
https://jalopnik.com/lucid-only-managed-to-move-478-cars-in-august-1850914827
Just 478 Lucid Airs were registered in the U.S. in August, and that brings the eight-month total of sales to 4,267 units. At that pace of new vehicle registrations, it’s fairly likely the luxury EV startup will fall well short of its “more than 10,000” vehicles sold production goal by the end of the year unless some big changes happen. Keep in mind that the original goal was to sell 14,000 vehicles this year.
According to Automotive News, in the first half of the year, Lucid reportedly produced 4,487 vehicles and delivered 2,810, and so far the company has not reported third-quarter numbers. It’s estimated that the company delivered 1,601 cars in September, but that’s only a guess.
It all sort of makes sense, doesn’t it? The Lucid Air is a big-money car. Even the cheapest version, the Air Pure, starts at $77,400. Prices quickly jump with the Touring at $95,000 and the Grand Touring at $125,600. That’s not even mentioning the Air Sapphire, which starts at a quarter-million bucks. The market for something like that is never going to be huge. That being said, the cheapest way to get an Air right now is a lease — as I’m sure you’ve seen on this here website. Lucid is pushing its $749/month 36-month lease with $8,069 due at signing deal pretty hard at the moment. It’s not a terrible deal, and it’s probably being done to drum up some interest in the cars.
While 478 cars registered does not sound like a lot for the entire month of August (because it isn’t), it does reportedly represent a 40 percent increase versus the same time in 2022. On top of that, January through August registrations were nearly triple where they were last year.
AutoNews reports that among EV makers, Lucid was number 19 in registrations out of 27 brands for the first eight months of 2023. It fell behind rivals like Porsche with 4,505 Taycan registrations and Genesis with 3,525 registrations between the electric G80 and two EV crossovers.
The outlet says Lucid has boosted its marketing efforts because of a rough first quarter. A 42-city marketing campaign with pop-up events was launched so that potential buyers could test-drive various Air models.
With all that being said, Lucid is still in a pretty solid spot. Back in August, the company said it had started sending vehicles to Saudi Arabia. In September it opened a small assembly plant there, and the company is majority-owned by Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund, so it’s never going to run out of money.
I bought my car in July and I’m still waiting for it to be fully registered. I have 90 day AZ temp plates on it. It’s mostly my fault because I’d rather wait to pay my 8% sales tax on 130k car to register it.
I love the car. Anyone who could afford it should consider the car, it’s the best car that I’ve ever owned - nothing close to it.
Are they counting the temp registrations? If they aren't, I am in the same boat. Purchased in August and holding off until November until registering.
Regardless of these numbers, this is the best car I’ve owned and I’ve owned Porsches, Land Rovers, BMWs
Refreshing to hear this.
The lease suckered me in. Picking mine up next Sat!
Can you share which model, the price of the vehicle, the lease term, and what the residual is?
Final numbers are $959/month with $9,281.94 total due at signing. Air Pure AWD in Fathom Blue and 20” wheels at 36 months and 10K miles/year. Residual at $45,120.
What’s your lease deal?
If August & September numbers are somewhat accurate this'll be the best quarter ever for Lucid, easily over 2K
I was hoping more than q1 and q2 combined, which will be really awesome. Waiting to hear when they release the details.
That’s unrealistic based on projections and sales history. I think we could see close to 5k in q4 though.
The Saudi facility, govt. orders, and formation of companies for EV infrastructure are all good signs to keep them running and an opportunity to ramp up production. Hoping it all pans out.
Great post, thank you! So Tesla didn’t make it to the finalists?
They did not. Not only that, but the Mercedes reviews didn't quite sell me on them winning COTY. I think Lucid Air may really win this award.
I read the other reviews and I definitely agree with you. It looks very promising that the Lucid Air can take the award home.
Most of the issues were related to it being a pre-production model and being buggy.
Even the low entrance height for 2nd row, they made an excuse for, saying it's a consequence for being the most aerodynamic.
If CNBC had their way Ford or GM would win. I mean they are the future guys smh 🤦♂️
To me it’s pretty ridiculous and shows Motortrend’s bias to not include the Plaid. The Plaid is now the quickest production car in the world and is a 5 seat family sedan at the same time. If that doesn’t at least deserve a mention I’m not sure why the Lucid does.
I sold today. Please don’t down vote. I’ll be back soon. Doubled my money. Love only love to Lucid
Congrats on the double, I definitely bought your shares. I’ve been averaging up the last week but may live to regret that who knows 🎲
What if the Civic wins? 😂🤣
Reading the Civic review, my bet is that wins.
Between earnings, Doug deMuro, and possible COTY next week will be super interesting 😆
I used to be very skeptical about Lucid, but they showed up at the Houston Galleria and I took a test-drive. Believe me, the Lucid Air is superb. Never have I hoped for a carmaker to succeed the way I’m cheering for Lucid now. This is not a brand anyone would want to fail. We can make jokes here and there, but, reality hit me when I drove the Air. No way should these guys go out of business.
I test drove a Lucid Air GT. It's pretty great. So 820 hp in itself is pretty amazing already, that it also handles tight in the sportiest mode (sprint?) is very very cool. By tight I mean the car doesn't wallow in roll and the nose follows steering quickly.
It might be the 21 inch wheels helping a lot, but the Air's efficiency makes choosing the 21 inch wheels, which reduce range, somewhat acceptable.
The worst part about Lucid is they are owned by the Saudi’s.
Edit: Look up a list of the human rights violations
I had the same reaction after I test drove one as well. I like it more than tesla now lol. Lucid actually feels like a luxury car. People criticize lucid but they're making some of the best performance EVs on the market now. Look up the lucid sapphire. The grand touring also can do 516 miles range. Does Tesla even have an EV that can go 500 miles? Yeah the cars are more expensive but they also have better features.
The guy who drove over one million miles with his MS has also set his eyes on a Lucid. Despite driving so many miles with his Tesla, he didn't seem particularly content with it.
https://insideevs.com/news/592845/tesla-model-s-passes-1-million-miles/
The range on the Lucid Air is incredible, and I don't mean the driving range, but the price range... $77k to $249k!
It still beats Tesla. LUCID RWD @ $77,400 has a range of 410 miles. To get the same with a tesla you would need to buy a model S which also starts around 80k.
The model 3 tesla has a pretty low range.
Who is spending $240K on a Lucid? For that much money you could have a Lambo, Bentley or a Rolls Royce. And if you have extra gold taste you could spend that money and buy yourself a classic white Cruella DeVille Rolls Royce. That would be badass. And you could still have a normal daily driver, get a cheapish model 3/Y
Well it's the fastest accelerating production car in the world. But it was mainly used to develop Lucid's in-house traction control, stability control, and ABS tuning (These used to be made by Bosch). It's essentially a rolling R&D project.
The hope is that the tuning will make it's way down the rest of the product chain. From all the models of the Air, to Lucid's eventual econobox offerings.
The range on the Lucid Air is incredible, and I don't mean the driving range, but the price range... $77k to $249k!
new to the premium segment ?
I hope they keep getting cheaper. Lucid seems to make amazing quality cars.
Man! So much hate on this sub for Lucid
Best car to buy.... If you've got 150k to spend on a car.
I’d have to sleep in it. Hopefully they can do an RV version and I can get it.
Lol. I've been watching nothing for tiny home van conversions on youtube for a month... I love it.
Green car reports caters to a wealthy crowd
Sweeeeeeet. I want one!!!!
Love it
What a horrible name for a review publication.
What i get about this is the EQS from Mercedes is an equal competitor from an already established manufacturer with piles of money to make it happen . At 478 mile range(longer than quoted elsewhere) and a hot look it will give Lucid trouble! Plus its larger!
Agreed, but I believe that dashboard/ screen will not be appealing to many. I think the 50+ yo Mercedes buyers will be overwhelmed with it. I like it but still it’s a lot. Also, the outside body style is just ok with no real wow factor. But it being such an established brand with history and the 400+ mile range and now that is less than Lucid will absolutely help Mercedes compete with what I consider a superior EV - LUCID MOTORS 🚀💵🚀💰🚀👍🏻
I'm 63 and love their screen , so much for that! I think the body with the 2 tone paint and front grill is actually more appealing than the lucid. i own no Mercedes stock but own a ton of CCIV, I'm just being honest with myself. That's a hot car and if it has that range and with their manufacturing capacity they will be a tough competitor, taking 1st mover advantage(deliveries in August) and can ramp up as fast as they can sell; whereas LCID will take several years to reach such capacity.(by then how many EQS do you think they will have sold?) I wasn't worried about TSLA because their luxury vehicle cant compete but the EQS is a direct competitor.
Thinking of this as a potential lease option, would like to know the honest pros and cons?
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Love my car. Also replaced a Model S. Head and shoulders above it in terms of quality, comfort, and driving.
Love it - vastly superior vehicle to the Model S it replaced.
Second this. Model S doesn’t compare in terms of build quality and feel. Would sell my Model S again for my AGT.
Lucid actually feels like a luxury EV IMO. That's the biggest selling point for me at least.
Beautiful, how is the overall quality of the build. Does it have the Tesla panel gaps and other interior quality issues?
None of that, I sold my Model X to buy this. It is well built, comfortable and gorgeous inside and out.
Have mercy our Zenith Red's are breath taking!
I love it. Don’t get the range I thought but I think that’s par for the course with most EVs. Drives beautifully, trim is great on the inside.
LOVE LOVE LOVE MY CAR. 23 months into ownership and I still love getting in and driving. Use it as my daily and school run. Find me another sedan which fits 2 boosters and 1 car seat across the back.
This man’s had the thing longer than pretty much anyone external to the company, what he speaks is truth.
The car is advertised as capable of getting 4.5 miles per kWh but I average 3.0.
All the professional reviews make this car sound really nice, especially for a first effort.
But after listening to the last Smoking Tire podcast and learning that Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund's money is behind this company, I could not possibly bring myself to buy one. I will not put money into the hands that will enrich criminals.
So much nicer looking than tesla.
The engineering behind it sounds cooler as well. I'd take this over an S any day.
I like it’s more of s class Ev than the EQS
But for the price I rather have the Taycan
No, its not even close. Looks like a Lincoln boat
Didn’t get a chance. Was just leaving dinner and saw it parked. That’s a huge bummer. Hopefully the correct the issues and help drive more innovation and diversity in EVs
It’s definitely not perfect but I’m glad to see more than teslas
Those weird tesla duck faces make me cringe.
That’s a bit of a stretch. The car was delivered without ADAS activated, which is understandably disappointing, but the car is not just a shell lmao
I think it was Mr Ferrari who said " I don't care if the doors don't line up, I want the driver to shit his pants when he steps on the gas" welcome to a brave new world!
Reviewers are given the best ones. The quality of ones they're delivering to customers may be much worse.
I was surprised they were being reviewed so well. As a new company I'd expect quality issues at least as bad as Tesla and now it appears that may be the case.
Planning to keep until Lucid is 20+ or long term capital gains kick in (whatever comes first).
Lucid is by far the best ev out there. Huge potential. Haters can hate, potatoes can potate!!
Dogshit company the only thing they're good at doing is losing money
agreed. my dumbass got 14 shares at $25.72. down 89% (~$325). i won’t lose if i don’t sell!!! (i lost)
Update us on this tomorrow! If your still holding lol, might have sold last week huh.?
It really is 2021 all over again.
Time is a flat circle.
Holy shit those con be STOOPID cheap!
Worth a buck or two as a "set and forget" on LEAPs
Tis the season for squeezin
I'm no journalist or claim to be an expert at anything regarding cars, but rather want to share my experience as an owner including all the faults I've experienced driving and owning the Lucid Air.
I took delivery of my Dream Edition on Nov 14, have driven it almost every day since. I've put a little over 450 miles on it, doing only local driving i.e. streets and freeways but nothing long distance (over 50 miles one way).
Interior and drive - we all know this already, but the materials and feel of everything inside makes it a very unique driving experience compared to previous drivers and vehicles I've owned. I've never been much for styling in a car, I've always considered them to be machines to get me from point A to point B, but the Air makes me appreciate the little intricacies and details quite a bit more compared to previous vehicles. We've never owned quite as expensive a car as this, but we have had and driven our fair share of "nice" vehicles which include the following: Mercedes S55 AMG, Mercedes S500, BMW 740 iL, Porsche Cayenne S, Tesla Model S (older version), Tesla Model 3, Mercedes CLK Convertible, a good number of Lexus, Hondas, Toyotas... The Lucid is just different, the interior design is exactly what Derek or Peter talked about in their interview. It's a calming driving experience even in the hustle and bustle of driving in Los Angeles. The cabin, is not the quietest out there, but it's definitely been the quietest I've been in for an extended period of time, and it's great. Putting on your latest podcast or playlist you just lose yourself to the drive. The screens are not intrusive and once you get everything set up how you like you just drive.
The drive itself - When journalists talk about feeling the road and getting feedback, the Lucid excels in this regard. The suspension is planted and firm, but also soft and forgiving at the same time. You can feel the road, but you don't feel every bump, it's stiff but not jarring and in smooth mode is comfortable why not feeling like you are floating or disconnected. In Swift mode, the suspension tightens up a little, you get more feeling from the road, the steering tightens up but is still incredibly easy to maneuver. The turning radius is good, bordering on great for a car this size. The car doesn't ever feel like it is a full size sedan even though it is. The feel is like a smaller more nimble vehicle that never feels it's size or weight.
With all that out of the way, how is it to actually drive and live with daily? What issues do I have...not everything is rainbows and unicorns.
I knew being in the first iteration of a vehicle, there would be problems. It's inevitable and there is no such thing as a perfect car, perfect software, or a perfect experience. I don't understand why or how anyone would expect Lucid to get everything right, right away, but the amount of hatred and scrutiny I've seen is unbelievable. I have faith that Lucid will fix the issues, especially any issues with software as that is a fix that is doable OTA. I'll breakdown issues I've experienced and have tried to replicate below:
The most common error I have is with the parking camera and sensor system. As of right now, when entering the car, the bootup sequence takes around 30 seconds to fully load the UI and all accompanying systems. I believe this is due to the car being put into a sleep state to reduce battery drain while sitting parked or idle. When entering the car and before the car is able to fully load, engaging drive or reverse MAY cause the cameras to not load properly. I've had about a 60/40 split on it loading properly prior to full bootup sequence being complete. This is fixed by locking and unlocking the car, which I assume is a system reset. To add to this, this only happens when I first start up the car in the morning, so after the car has been sitting idle for 8+ hours. When using the car during the day, the normal startup sequence is closer to 5 seconds. It seems to take longer the longer the car is not in use.
I've had issues with my Frunk opening from the key fob. It almost always gets stuck on the passenger side latch. A second opening sequence on the fob (which involves just holding down the button) will unlatch the frunk and open normally. Funnily enough, this does not happen when opening the Frunk from inside the car via the pilot panel. This issue has already been reported to Lucid.
Issues with my trunk. I've been able to replicate an issue where, IF the car is not unlocked and you try to open the trunk AFTER you unlock the vehicle, the power trunk will not operate and the trunk close button will not operate. A simple fix is to manually close the trunk, lock the car, unlock the car and it functions as normal again. The trunk close button also has come loose. A technician looked at it and the clip inside broke so that will be replaced the next service visit. There is a seal that has come loose, looks like there was some glue missing in that section and will need to be re-glued. I also took delivery with a blemish in the spoiler section of the trunk lid. The service center, prior to taking delivery, noted this in their file and have ordered a replacement lid because they felt the error could not be corrected via a paint job i.e. it was blemish in the underlying metal.
UI Issues or personal preferences that I feel should be changed. I'm not entirely sure if these issues are by design or some bug in the software, but these things I brought up with the Lucid team as things I would like to see changed:
You cannot have a separate panel loaded in the driver panel and the pilot panel at this time. If you choose maps, it will load maps on both, same goes with Music, or phone, or home. My preference is to be able to keep a map up in the driver panel and have the music or phone loaded on the pilot panel or any combination there of. Currently, because of the ability to "swipe down" the different options, it will only allow you to load one item as a time on both panels.
Currently, Homelink is tied to driver profiles. This could be a design choice due to future security implementations with driver profiles, but upon initial setup it surprised me. I only set up my driver profile with Homelink and have not bothered with the other drivers in the family because I did not want to have to go through the same steps 15 more times. I do like how Homelink is geo triggered, so when I pull into my driveway, it brings up the Homelink to select which gate to open.
The NAV audio volume is not adjustable or able to be turned off.
The turn signal audio is quite loud.
I've had some issues with bluetooth audio playback and the Spotify app loaded in the UI. There has been 2 occasions where the car got stuck in a loop trying to play Spotify via bluetooth off my phone or Spotify from the UI. It was corrected by just selecting am/fm radio and going back to the Spotify app. I'm not sure if it's adjustable or not, but the Spotify app in the car does not have an option to have "random" skipping during play from a playlist. It will just play in order of the playlist. The search function in the Spotify app is wonky. You can search but once the search returns results and you select something, it will just play that song or first song from the artist instead of letting you go into a sub menu for the artist.
When receiving a text message and using the car's AI to read it back, this will trigger the Spotify app to stop playing. In order to start playback again, I have to go back and select the app and hit play again.
The skip forward and skip back buttons on the steering wheel will skip to the next radio substation. Even after I have setup my favorite stations, my preference would be to skip to the next station on my list, however, as currently setup, it moves forward or back to the next substation.
Because ADAS is not currently enabled on the car, I can't properly review it yet, except I feel Lucid has missed an opportunity to map the left scroll wheel and left button for other functions besides ADAS functions.
The main pilot panel I feel can be improved. Initially, it's great to see the car and background change when you change drive modes, but I would LOVE for that screen real estate to be replaced with something else. My top 2 choices now are the ability to access NAV, music or phone from the pilot panel. A redundancy of being able to access menus would be great.
To address the apparent lagginess of the UI, I posted this response below and I should have included it in my main post:
I think that the screen works great. I've seen the videos where people say it appears laggy, but the way I look at it is that it's a design choice. I think instead of comparing the screen to a Tesla or Iphone, I would say it's more comparable to how in movies, transitions used are different. For example, a cut vs. a fade transition. I feel, though I could be wrong, that Lucid has purposely chosen some effects to be slower and feel more like a fade versus a cut to a new screen. Some functions are much snappier like when certain buttons are triggered whereas other seem to "flow" for lack of a better way to describe it. I guess you could say it's more gentle? It's hard to describe, but having used Tesla screens compared to this, it gives off the feeling of not being rushed and is more leisurely. I wouldn't call it lag because it's not choppy.
Overall though, this is really minor nit picky stuff. I've never felt these small issues have affected the quality of the drive or my experience. These can also all be corrected via software and are also personal preference. I understand my desires may not align with Lucid's design view, so in its current iteration, I would be happy with it, even if nothing changed.
I've shown many people the car, talked to many people about it when they come up asking and sitting inside and the comments are all the same. Every single commenter has said how much nicer the car is compared to Tesla, the details, the build quality, the interior. The highest praise I've gotten is when I took the car down to get a quote from a very well known and respected detail and wrap shop. I arrived to get a quote to wrap the car and get it tinted. They had just finished wrapping 2 Ferraris and had a Pagani on the floor. The owner came out and just said "WOW" that is a nice looking car. The sales associate with him got inside to look and said "This is amazing, so much nicer than any Tesla." Given this shop's track record and cars they've worked on, it's good to hear. 3 detailers who've seen the car up close have commented how the build quality and finish blew Tesla out of the water. One even said that this is the first EV he would consider buying because of the design aspect. I don't include these anecdotes to hate on Tesla, because I still like the cars, but this truly is the next iteration of the luxury EV.
Let me end by saying that the car is appropriately named. It really is the culmination of vision and hard work that have turned the dream into reality. The car is not perfect and I'm sure there will many iterations of software to come, but so far it has been a Dream.
For that price it should be better than a Tesla
Early Teslas had all the same type of problems - and I'm not just talking Roadster and S, but 3 as well. I have a 2017 Model 3 (there's about 2500 of these) and the software was definitely a bit rough at the time, with some basic capabilities just missing. The rearview camera was total garbage and broken half the time, couldn't turn on the rear seat heaters, etc. If I wanted to make a case that the car wasn't ready, I could. But those issues got solved quickly and I'm sure the Lucid issues will be solved as well (though a little less quickly than with the 3, given this is their first car).
Does your backup camera work reliably now? My '18 3 still doesn't.
Am I missing something or the Air is cheaper than a Model S comparing the same trim version?
Model S Plaid right now is 129k, then another 20k for the new 200mph hardware/software.
This Lucid is 169k.
169k ouch. That’s awesome to see they delivered a great car.
Yeah that puts some perspective on “better build quality than a Tesla”
For 3x the price of my Tesla, I’d bloody hope so!
lol. significantly cheaper cars have much better build quality than Teslas. tesla owners typically don’t care about this which is why tesla doesn’t either.
But you already knew that
Is the paint pearlescent, or is that just the lighting making it look funky? Either way it's beautiful, what do they call that color?
All those words and not a single picture of your beautiful car? Fail.
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That's a bad dude right there
Car costs $170k and takes 30 seconds to boot 😭
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Key Considerations for the Best Lucid Car
Model Options: Lucid Motors primarily offers the Lucid Air, which comes in several variants (e.g., Air Pure, Air Touring, Air Grand Touring, and Air Dream Edition). Each model has different performance specs, range, and features.
Range: The Lucid Air is known for its impressive electric range. The Air Dream Edition can achieve up to 503 miles on a single charge, making it one of the longest-range electric vehicles available.
Performance: Look for performance specs such as horsepower and acceleration. The Lucid Air Dream Edition boasts up to 1,111 horsepower and can accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in just 2.5 seconds.
Interior Quality: Lucid cars are designed with luxury in mind. Check for high-quality materials, spacious interiors, and advanced technology features like a large touchscreen and driver-assistance systems.
Charging Infrastructure: Consider the availability of charging options. Lucid offers a home charging solution and access to the Electrify America network for fast charging.
Recommendation: The Lucid Air Grand Touring is a standout choice for its balance of performance, luxury, and range. It offers up to 516 miles of range, 800 horsepower, and a well-appointed interior with advanced tech features. If you're looking for the ultimate performance, the Lucid Air Dream Edition is the top-tier model, but it comes at a premium price.
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