A95L is the king

I think with no budget the Sony A95L takes it.

Sony A95L without a doubt

A95L.

LG doesn't have a QD-OLED. In the US, your only choises are Samsung S95c, S90c and Sony A95l. The Sony is generally getting the best reviews of the three, but is significantly pricier.

Hisense U8H, or if it's out of your price range then U7H.

oled is better though. Try LG B2/C2

It would help to know the budget and how far away you sit

TCL as someone already stated. And QLED is just marketing like "nanocell" or "QNED". It doesn't mean anything.

I have an LG C8 and I could not have made a better choice. Everyone I know that has a Qled that has seen the OLED in person would admit nothing beats the true blacks. Unless you are going to have this TV in a very bright room, I’d go OLED 100%.

Btw - you only hear about the issues here because that’s where people go for advice on them. This wouldn’t be arguably the highest rated TV if burn was affecting everyone who bought the TV.

I get it, it’s a big decision; I was in the same boat. I would buy a LG now that they have dropped in price, get it from Best Buy or an authorized dealer that you can get an extended warranty with so you are covered for everything and try it out for as long as you can. I’ve had mine for 6 months without any issue.

Look at QLED for what it is: an LCD TV.

Its not OLED vs QLED. It's just another discussion about OLED vs LCD. QLED is a marketing name. It is not 'Samsung's version of OLED.'

Now with that being said, the physical differences in how these two technologies work, is the reason they are incomparable. LCD is bad at everything except 2 things: not retaining images and potentially getting very bright (only some models, QLED included). A modern OLED TV will kick its ass at everything else.

If you're in a super bright room or watch TV in direct sunlight, QLED is probably a better choice. Barring those scenarios, OLED performs unimaginably better.

What's interesting is that OLED looks better to you at Best Buy (as it should, depending on what they're showing). OLED does a lousy job of showing itself off on the bright retail floor, where QLED thrives. That's because OLED goes dead to black and reflects the extreme lighting, while QLED has all that bright ambient light to conceal its shortcomings. At home, OLED gets better than the store, and QLED gets worse than the store.

If you're worried about OLED problems, buy Geek Squad Protection. It covers burn in, at least in the United States.

Go check out Quantum Apotheosis channel on YouTube. Glad I stumbled onto his channel, he tells you all the unbiased pros and cons of OLED and QLED, extremely knowledgable.

You’re asking the wrong sub, and no qled won’t offer the same quality as oled. Also most of those issues can be avoided like burn in if you don’t watch cnn 12 hours a day.

Re: the gray test - that’s because anyone neurotic enough to post on reddit about TVs (I include myself here) is probably neurotic enough to try a gray uniformity test on their television. I did it too. And then I let my tv accrue about 200 hours and realized that it looks even better than it did out of the box and that whatever uniformity issues a 5% gray slide shows are simply not visible in real life content.

Bravia a8 or a9 OLED hands down the best!

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If you want to spend less and get something ok-TCL. If you want to wait for the tv that does what you really want-save for a OLED or QD-OLED from Sony or LG.

Do you want accurate or do you want black but altered? Generally you get better black level with more dimming zones, but the algorithm also matters. For example a Samsung and TCL can give you better black levels than a comparable priced Sony but the Sony wil actually preserve the details in the image. In order to get good black levels and have people tell you on forums etc that they are getting near OLED level black Samsung and TCL will happily just remove part of the picture so they can turn a dimming zone completely off. Is your black level better? Yes. Did half the scene get deleted? Also yes.

Then there is also techniques to brighten certain areas to avoid sharp contrast between bright/black to prevent blooming, but you alter the source content. And then you have the overbrighten the entire image and you have agressive highlight supression again to avoid blooming. In the end Samsung and TCL can then deliver TVs with a good amount of dimming zones which deliver good black levels and not very noticable blooming, but they did alter the source content in order to hide the inherit weaknesses LCD has over OLED. Sony does not really do this, but that sometimes mean a bit of more noticable blooming and elevated blacks. Still despite this it is absolutely the best brand for low light scenes. Also in general definitely get something FALD with dimming zones, I think the low end for Sony is 80 zones. TCL has way more at the same price but dosen't really use them very well.

How about this idea.

Save up for a oled if you want one. I saved up myself and waited for sales to buy one.

You'll likely regret not doing this!

Black friday's coming up in a couple months.. use that time to save and buy something that'll keep you satisfied for 5+ years

Anyone have direct experience with the LG QNED85 (75" is what I'm looking at).

Be very careful deceitful practices from Samsung and other vendors have used this moniker for Led backlit LCDs in the past. Oled is a whole different ballgame with no passive backlighting.

Oled surpasses Image Quality in every comparison. Blacks are unmatched. For a controlled viewing environment Oled is the only recommendation. If you have not experienced, it’s a game changer.

QLED is a marketing term designed to confuse the casual shopper.

It’s a traditional LED.

OLED will have much better imaging.

I'd only consider QLED if you want to save money or your room is very bright and blasted by sun or you plan on watching a lot of static content e.g. news with static banners, in all other cases OLED.

How is this even a question? 1 is for cheaper TV's, 1 is the premium option

OLED is better than QLED. QLED quality varies greatly for poor to great. OLED quality is almost always great.

The best QLEDs are very close to OLED and out perform them in areas like brightness. QLEDs are generally cheaper and the best band for buck TVs are QLEDs, particularly in large sizes. There is more to a TV than just panel type, size, software, features, and processor matter too. The answer really comes down to your specific needs and budget.

LG G5, A95L, Bravia 8 II, Bravia 9, or Panasonic Z95A. All great, just depends what kind of room it's going in, and what you value/use it for.

Bravia 9, Bravia 8 II, S95F, Panasonic Z95B.

I have an A95L 77”. I love mine.

77" A95L.

Money no object, Sony A95L, Sony B8 MK II, LG G5, Samsung S90F, Panasonic Z95B, Sony B9 if you want bright.

If you want mega big then TCL QM8K 98 inch.

If you truly have endless money than the Samsung or Hisense micro LED TVs 145 inches.

Hahahaha that genuinely made me laugh. It’s probably no option for me either. I’m just seeing how much I can finance through Klarna and Affirm. I’ve been building up my credit with those (and credit cards to help my credit score as fast as possible) but I can afford a pretty good down payment

money is no object *

Posts like this are incredibly helpful for me, as a beginner who used lurk and is now jumping into with both feet. You solidified a lot of info for me and helped me confirm my choice for a TV. Now to wait on a good sale, haha.

The article about HDR10, HDR10+, and Dolby Vision says there isn't really any difference between HDR10+ and Dolby Vision.

Hey I’m thinking of buying a new tv 55 inch 4K smart tv, my dad found 50 inch smart tv 4K for $571 but the brand is TCL I’m always a big believer in buying better brands but I haven’t brought a tv in like years. At the moment there’s. 65 inch smart tv 4K for 984 Sony. Do u think it’s worth the 400 ish more ? the sale ends tomorrow or next. The guy at the store said that the he gets a lot of faults with tcl but I need any honest opinion I’m not big on spending lots on possessions if it’s not worth it but tcl kicks it in a couple of years I’m going to be annoyed lol thoughts anyone ??? experiences with TCL

Just as a note for the gaming comparison between Sony and LG OLED, LG also supports native 1440p gaming, which Sony doesn't.

Thank you

The best for me would be the OLED TV.

OLED has the superior picture quality but I'm told it is highly susceptible to screen burn-in - especially if you play video games with a HUD, which I do often.

My current TV is a mini-LED QLED and it's fantastic.

TL;DR; If you can afford it, OLED will give you a markedly picture in most cases.

The long version: So QLED is just a regular LCD tv with an LED backlight (and quantum dots, which we’ll skip or we’ll be here all day). It’s obnoxious branding deliberately designed to be confused with OLED, which is a different technology entirely.

The main point is that in an OLED tv, each pixel is an independent light source (each sub-pixel actually, which is important for later). Where an LED LCD tv has some number of LEDs behind the screen for backlighting but color comes from an LCD in front of them.

This means a couple things. First, OLEDS generally have better picture quality as they can turn “off” completely for deeper blacks. Like a OLED showing a black screen, it’s impossible to tell it’s even on. They also have better dynamic range (how well they handle it when something very bright and something very dark are on the screen at the same time). Having individually lit pixels makes it easier to show bright and dark at once without losing detail in one of them as opposed to LED TVs which have to be “pick a lane” to a certain extent.

With LED tvs, since there isn’t one LED per pixel, the LCD can turn a pixel “black” but it will still be lit up and will look more like a dull grey. Some better TVs have what they call local dimming where individual backlight “zones” can turn on and off which can help if a general area of the screen is darker, it it will never be as good as OLED.

Aditionally they tend to have faster response times which can be nice for games and such, although the gap is narrowing.

On the other hand, since each “pixel” in an OLED is actually multiple OLEDS for different colors (sub-pixels), and since each is it’s own light source, it’s possible for one color to wear out faster than another. Since they all share the same backlight in LED TVs, that doesn’t happen. Normally this doesn’t matter if you just watch tv and movies but if you have the same static image on the TV a lot, over time the specific color sub-pixels used to display it can wear faster than the rest and lead to image retention where a kind of ghost of the image appears on the TV all the time. That’s what people mean by burn-in.

Also OLEDs tend not reach the same brightness levels as LED TVs which can be a problem in well lit rooms due to reflections. Now there is a new type of OLED called QD-OLED(OLED but w/ those quantum dots again, still not the same as QLED) which adds another layer to an OLED display and those can get brighter.

OLED is considered better.

Depends on situation I guess, but I lean OLED. I had an LG OLED in my old place that was pretty dark, but when I moved into my current house that has a ton of natural light I went with a flagship QLED (Samsung qn90a back in 2021). Its...ok I guess. Considering the price I paid I though it's fairly disappointing. I have a variety of LG OLED's in all my other rooms and the picture is much cleaner to my uneducated eye. Even the cheapie A series LG I have in a bedroom like cleaner than the Samsung. Thinking of replacing the 85" QN90a with a flagship LG OLED of a similar size but I think my wife will notice and I don't want to deal with the nagging just yet.