Honestly it’d be very cool to see something like that but also very impractical. With so much of the player base using LFG and the addition of in-game LFG, most people are going to be playing with that. Sometimes LFG is a nightmare with 6 people now, I can hardly imagine coordinating a group of 12. If just one person leaves after a single wipe (which would happen more often with more people) you’d be constantly looking for new ppl.

I can see why this would be really cool to some players, but it really translates into ”Bungie, please spend even more time making content to an even smaller percentage of the player base…”

I do want it to be the longest raid, or at least on par with Last Wish.

I do want the Witness to be the final boss. I would be very disappointed if they were a campaign boss.

Other than that, I don't really care.

Mine is

Garden of Salvation

Vault of Glass

Last wish

Deep Stone Crypt

Love me some LW

I like GoS when it isn't bugging out and I don't have to teach

I like DSC because it's easy to understand and gives good guns

VoG exists to give me Fatebringer and Templar farm

GoS when it's buggy is hell, a funny kind of painful

Lol you don't even consider garden a raid it's so bad?

GoS - DSC - VoG . I will take GoS over LW anyday

1. GoS
2. LW
3. DSC
4. VoG

I have taught plenty of raids in my lifetime as a player in Destiny, and i will teach plenty more. I’ll look into teaching the new raid with the low sodium discord group. Just need to get a handle on every mechanic as i have only done a couple through my clears. But ive done nearly 100 VOG and DSC sherpas (was top 10 in sherpas on raid report in DSC until i retired from it).

In addition to what’s already been said, r/destinysherpa is a great resource as well

Our community comprises over 400 members, including Sherpas from various global locations. We primarily encourage camaraderie and shared experiences. Membership requirements are minimal, only implemented when necessary for specific triumphs or bounties.

https://discord.gg/ZVdPK9DTBf

https://www.bungie.net/7/en/Clan/Profile/5251478

Best option is Discord, they have an sherpa channel.

Google destiny 2 discord lfg. It should be the first one. Scroll to the side that says Raid LFG. Find the raid you want. Post that you are looking to learn. Or find a post advertising as a sherpa. There is another group a little further down called general LFG. Find the "find-a-sherpa" you can post there too. You have to be able to listen to their advice and adapt. Don't walk in there and say "I want to use this loadout and I don't care what you think." you're there to learn. Listen to your teacher. 

Ive done nearly 300 raids through the LFG. I've taught and been taught. You'll see people complaining that users there are toxic or elitist but I am convinced that those who are complaining were those who refused to listen or were too stubborn to take constructive criticism. In my time in that lfg I can count on one hand how many toxic players I've ran in to. It happens. But in my personal experience it's super rare. People who teach usually do it because they want to and are able to be patient.

Just don't lie and join a post that says KWTD (know what to do) when you've never actually done the raid and just watched a couple videos. Be honest with your experience and it will be very rare someone would treat you poorly. 

Hefnd’s Vengeance, Blighted Chimera

Apart from being a tribute to Riven’s fight in Last Wish, the unique setup of short damage phases separated by mechanics and one long one interspersed with jumping means that you don’t have to wait long to damage the boss at any point, and you’re encouraged to really optimize rotations on each and every step.

Only real criticisms are the bad arena on the second floor and the sometimes janky curse transference mechanic

Despite its bugs, Zoetic Lockset stands out because you have full control over the encounter if you know what's going on. You can spawn more ads for cenotaph ammo, you can get rid of all ads. You can have long damage phases, short phases, whatever you want. And on contest it was a pretty tight damage check.... because of its bugs....

Nope, dungeon boss HP 100% got inflated when spire of the watcher was out. Warlocks had starfire and the well of radiance bug, so we were fine, but the other classes had a lot of trouble with persys HP. Then GotD came out, and the bosses were legit walls of HP...

I'm viewing this from a solo perspective, but this also applies to 3 man groups, too.

I enjoyed all of the dungeon's before the tanky boss shift (Spire of the Watcher marks the shift). Warlord's Ruin is the lone exception--fantastic dungeon. Ghosts of the Deep is everything that's wrong with post-Duality dungeon bosses.

Warlords Ruin, is just peak mechanics and aesthetic all the way through

Well, this post seems to be aimed straight at me. I've been procrastinating on getting into raids for a while now.

Has some questions though:

• Is it possible to get through a raid only using textchat? I have trouble making my mic work with Destiny.

• Can I go into the mission blind? Or am I expected to watch guides and memorize all the mechanics beforehand?

• Where do I find sherpas? Is there a forum or discord with frequent listings? Or should I just lurk the Fireteam Finder and hope I get lucky?

Great message for everyone! How do you form your sherpa groups? Do you usually just post through DestinySherpa on here? Through Discord? Have a couple of raids I'd love to try but not always sure how to find a teacher to be quite honest!

>Everyone should try them. A lot of people are missing great content by listening to the community saying they’re too hard. They aren’t. 

It's not that it's too hard. It just takes too much time. And it feels horrible knowing the game has a large audience, but most of them will never step foot in there, yet that's where all the good stuff is? Terrible. The entire model needs to go away. It feels like World of Warcraft's ghost is haunting Destiny.

I'm not OP but I use only the discord to matchmake, and I do get a decent amount of "unteachables"

I'd say for every single raid I've run since Final Shape that had Discord lfgs, at least 1 of the people was unteachable, usually we'd cycle them out for a harder raid like SE, but for something like VOG, we suck it up and just treat it like a lowman run. Even in the Discord you get people who want to be hard carried.

For an actual answer, unless something drastically changes with DPS, the ol' Izanagi swap with Apex predators and Gjallahorn is still gonna be the most consistent thing you could do. For ad clear, run w.e. You clear ads with everything so effectively it doesn't matter. Machine guns are pretty good. So are wave frame GLs.

Things obviously can change depending on the exact scenario, but that should take you through the majority of those scenarios. Unless something comes out that does so much more damage that you're actually cutting down on a damage phase on contest consistently, idk why you'd change it up.

As for team compositions, I'll be doing what my team always does. 2 of each class. Prismatic might be a game changer, it might not be. We don't know the Well nerf, so that's a big mystery.

No one knows, prismatic about to drastically change the meta as well as huge balance changes to current weapons and abilities.

rat king

Gumption.

Psychological baggage

If you want to start with an oldie goldie, I'd say VoG. There are minimal changes and it's a pretty simple raid. Crota changes are more noticeable and require fireteam interaction and teamwork.
For the newer raids, RoN is ez pz mechanically, but there it might be more of a damage check than the older raids. Build for deeps.
The only raid I wouldn't suggest is Salvation's Edge. It's been a pain for people who have been raiding non-stop for years. Once you get it, you got it, but getting it is rough and your whole team has to get it. No hard carries in this one.

Deep Stone Crypt is probably the best to learn. It's not hard, everybody gets to do something at some point, it looks great, and it uses mechanics you may already know.

Vault of Glass is also fine

I’ve never done raids either until last week. Completed from start to finish the Root of Nightmares raid with the in game LFG. Idk if you’ve heard anything about the in game LFG but it’s apparently pretty bad. Anyways yeah. Did RoN with LFG, and I gotta say, in my minimal raiding experience I think that might be the easiest raid so far.

Edit: added some words

Vault of glass is easiest

One of the best groups I've ever run with is, "Guardians With Jobs." They're great for newbies and people just looking to casually run stuff.

Highly recommend them

Few changes like the oracles having to be shot in order. Still the easiest raid in D2 as long as you have a mic and can tell your right from your left. And can count to 7.

I worried Bungie will put less time and money into raids if less people are doing them.

“ You would think only the hardcore players and raiders are left at this time but theyre gone.”

I would live to say “I told you so” but there’s nobody left faces left to rub it into.

If players want challenging content and they don’t get it they will leave. You will not find a group, and if you do, they’re all gonna be bad players that know even less of what to do than you do, and none of them will want to learn. 

I said this is what would happen dozens of times and instead was told “they should be making content for the average player not the 1%!!1!!1!!1!1!”

Bitch if we aren’t here you don’t get to experience half the game.

So yeah, go ahead, make more seasonal and episodic content, keep making the game easier. Oh look big surprise here, all the good players that made the game fun or playable for the average players are gone.

Game is dead and rightfully so. Needs matchmaking for all activities

This game is still live? lol

I used to be an avid raider with my various clans throughout D1 and D2. Raided every week, every difficulty, every challenge, every exotic, sherpa'd so many people through, always eager to help and defend newbies against the bullies - until the pandemic hit and my life changed and now I'm in a ghost clan playing solo and haven't done any raid since 2020 (except for 1 run of Salvation I got roped into while in a discord chat with an old friend). Same for dungeons, none since 2020. I started to play again more regularly after the Final Shape but it's not the same and both the game and the population fell off a cliff soon after, and along with it my clan. I know I could LFG but for my mental health I prefer not to subject myself to that torture, and anyway I no longer fit the KWTD mold.

Destiny is just not made for solo play unless your gamertag is Esoterickk. Where are all the nice and friendly folk looking to have fun and help fellow gamers? If you're still out there. reach out.

When it comes to having their backs against the wall. Always bet on Bungie to make a comeback.

I can't believe I'm actually fuckin hyped. The new subclass is imo far better than a new darkness one

I expected just a simple weapon showcase. Nothing crazy

Boy I’m glad I’m wrong

There is no way they made a new race, a new kind of subclass and all those other stuff in 3 months. Like, it’s literally impossible lmao. I’m sure most of it were meant to remain a secret until launch but they (rightfully) had to build the hype back. But holy shit this live was fucking awesome!