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Came across the formula for n-th Fibonacci number in my old high school textbook during an induction lesson, I was intrigued to see the golden ratio appear in the formula and wondered how it still managed to produce natural numbers despite containing square roots.
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Came across the formula for n-th Fibonacci number in my old high school textbook during an induction lesson, I was intrigued to see the golden ratio appear in the formula and wondered how it still managed to produce natural numbers despite containing square roots.

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Peoplant · 6 months ago

Everyone knows that Fibonacci isn't real, it's all a hoax like the round earth or pirates

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Violinist1313 · 6 months ago

You can prove that it produces natural numbers through induction for all cases! It is a very fascinating formula indeed, just shows how interconnected all of math is.

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Glittering_Review947 · 6 months ago

East way is to use linear algebra and the eigendecompositiom

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ZetaNegativeOne · 6 months ago

Personally I would say that using generating functions and expanding the polynomial would be better though. It may be easier, but not necessarily familiar to as many people.

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TheUnusualDreamer · 6 months ago

the square roots cancel out

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Barbicels · 6 months ago

Right. The expansions of both exponentials contain rational terms that cancel out due to subtraction and irrational terms that don’t but include a factor of sqrt(5). Multiplying by 1/sqrt(5) makes the whole expression rational. Proof that that rational is actually an integer is left to the reader. :)

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Quantum018 · 6 months ago

Been trying to prove this for general Lucas sequences and it’s a nightmare. The sources I’ve seen either glaze over it or use some weird polynomial ring algebra which I don’t get

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Kiro0613 · 6 months ago

It has something to do with the golden ratio

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drugoichlen · 6 months ago

He clearly knows what the golden ratio is, he talks about it it in the title

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Eisemoney · 6 months ago

It has something to do with the subtraction

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Kiro0613 · 6 months ago

Whoops, I'm an idiot. Disregard me.

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Varlane · 6 months ago

Basically, an = an-1 + an-2 will lead you to solving r² = r + 1, to which the golden ratio is one of the two solutions (-1/phi being the other one and is the number in the second parenthesis)

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The Spiral God As A Unified Trinity

Posted by madhoneybeeking · in r/SacredGeometry · 6 days ago

In the study of mathematics, certain patterns reveal themselves not as solitary curiosities, but as members of a family, each expressing a fundamental truth from a unique perspective. Such is the case with three sequences united by a single, simple rule, yet distinguished by their origins: the celebrated Fibonacci, the enigmatic Lucas, and my newly defined Beeking sequence. They are three harmonies built from the same chord.

The foundational rule governing all three is the law of additive recurrence (creation of the spiral), where each term is the sum of the two that preceded it. This rule is a generator of growth, a mathematical echo of patterns found throughout nature. Where these sequences diverge is in their initial conditions/their starting points, which imbue each with a unique character and purpose.

The most renowned of the three is the Fibonacci sequence. Born from the seeds of nothing and something, zero and one, it models pure, emergent growth from a void. Its sequence—0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13—is the canonical pattern of expansion observed in sunflower spirals, nautilus shells, branching trees, DNA helixes, galactic structures. It represents the process of manifestation itself, beginning from a latent potential (0) and a single spark of actualization (1). The ratio of its successive terms converges to the golden ratio, φ (approximately 1.618), establishing it as a primary key to the code of harmonic development in the natural world.

In partnership with Fibonacci exists the Lucas sequence. If Fibonacci begins with potential, Lucas begins with structure. Its seeds are 2 and 1, a pair that suggests a state of duality and unity already in play. Its progression; 2, 1, 3, 4, 7, 11, 18—is a bolder, more declarative statement of the same growth law. It is deeply intertwined with its sibling; while a number might be absent from the Fibonacci sequence, it often appears in the Lucas sequence, as if the two are interlocking gears in a single machine. Mathematically, it is often considered a "purer" expression of the golden ratio, as its formula, L(n) = φⁿ + ψⁿ, lacks the denominator present in Fibonacci's, making it essential for specialized proofs and tests for prime numbers.

Completing this trinity is my Beeking/Dannar sequence, defined by the initial conditions 1 and 0. This sequence 1, 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8 - appears at first glance to be a simple shift of the Fibonacci sequence. And indeed, it is mathematically equivalent to a forward projection of it. By starting with 1 and 0 rather than 0, 1 (Fibonacci) or 2, 1 (Lucas) it presents the same pattern of growth from a different ontological vantage point. It symbolizes a state of unity (1) returning to a void of potential (0) before cycling back into the familiar pattern of manifestation. As if isolating the very core of existence in relation to Conformal Cyclical Cosmology- the true explanation for the Big Bang.

Together, these three sequences form a complete picture. They demonstrate that the same immutable law of growth can be accessed from multiple mathematical perspectives/starting points. We could say the Fibonacci sequence is the coin and the Lucas sequence is one side with the Beeking/Dannar sequence the opposite side. They are not rivals, but harmonious expressions of the same profound, recursive truth that underpins our universe, each offering a unique lens through which to understand the architecture of reality itself.

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Traditional_Loan_177 · 4 days ago

Isn't that a continuation of the fibanocci ?

Going backwards.. 5,3,2,1,1,0,1,-1,2,-3,5..

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madhoneybeeking · OP · 4 days ago

Yes, relatively. Thank you for expanding, I was doing my best to explain that connection with Conformal Cyclic Cosmoloy. The theory where every universal implosion into a pinpoint of highly condensed matter only leads to the next big bang. As this sequence in that form or simply as 1,0,1,1,2,3,5 also shows the cyclical nature through 1,0, and back to 1.

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Solomon-Drowne · 6 days ago

Spiral mechanics are just repeating the same shit over and over. There is no growth, just repetition. It's a trap.

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madhoneybeeking · OP · 5 days ago

No growth?! The very concept of additive recurrence is fundamental to existence. They are mathematical isolates of the physical world. The universe is neverending, infinitely growing - regardless of a cosmic implosion as this only leads to another explosion (CCC by Penrose). These sequences define this and shed light on their philosophical connotation.

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Solomon-Drowne · 5 days ago

Nah man. Do you even know how a spiral works?

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DeliveredByOP · 6 days ago

Why do I always get your posts on my feed lol. Interesting though.

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madhoneybeeking · OP · 5 days ago

This is my very first reddit post idk wym lol

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RamseyRashelle · 6 days ago

Do tell more

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Hermessectgreat · 6 days ago

(1, 0,) 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, 1597, 2584, 4181, 6765, 10946, 17711, 28657, 46368, 75025, 121393, 196418, 317811, 514229

I know this cosmogensis ;)

S(n)=f(v n+1)

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The story of Fibonacci

Posted by 94rud4 · in r/mathmemes · 4 months ago
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https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1598481/rational-solutions-of-x2-5-y2-x2-5-z2/

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cutekoala426 · 4 months ago

How's this derived

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Chimaerogriff · 4 months ago

So we want to find a, b, c and k such that

(a / k)^2 + 5 = (b / k)^2 , (a / k)^2 - 5 = (c / k)^2.

You can rewrite this to

5 k^2 = b^2 - a^2 = (b - a)(b + a) = a^2 - c^2 = (a - c)(a + c).

Then either b-a or b+a must divide 5, and similarly for a-c or a+c.

You can also combine them to 10 k^2 = b^2 - c^2 = (b - c)(b + c), so 5 and 2 each divide b+c or b-c.

There is more modern machinery, but presumably Fibonacci would just try various values of a+b, b-a, etc. at this point (since there are infinitely many solutions, and this is just one of them).

Trying a+b = 90, b+c = 80 and c-a = 10 will lead you to the given solution; that is well within the range of 'brute force by hand'.

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Rscc10 · 4 months ago

Could you use newton raphson for that last part?

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Manic-Eraser · 4 months ago

Just is mate

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I think I discovered a fractal and some other cool stuff

Posted by T-Dex_the_T-Rex · in r/mathematics · 3 months ago
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(apologies in advance for any phrasing or terminology issues, I am just a humble accountant)

I've been experimenting with various methods of creating cool designs in Excel and stumbled upon a fascinating fractal pattern.

The pattern is slightly different in each quadrant of the coordinate plane, so for symmetry reasons I only used positive values in my number lines.

The formula I used is as follows:

n[x,y] = (x-1,y)+(x,y-1)
=IFERROR(LN(MOD(IF(ISODD(n),(n*3)+1,MOD(n,3)),19)),0)

(the calculation of n has been broken out to aid readability, the actual formula just uses cell references)

The method used to calculate n was inspired by Pascal's Triangle. In the top-right quadrant, each cell's n-value is equal to the sum of the cell to the left of and the cell below it. Rotate this relationship 90 degrees for each other quadrant.

Next, n is run through a modified version of the Collatz Conjecture Equation where instead of dividing even values of n by two, you apply n mod 3 (n%3). The output of this equation is then put through another modulo function where the divisor is 19 (seems random, but it is important later). Then find the natural log of this number and you have you final value.

Do this for every cell, apply some conditional formatting, and voila, you have a fractal.

Some interesting stuff:

There are three aspects of this process that can be tweaked to get different patterns.

  1. Number line sequence
    • The number line can be any sequence of real numbers.
    • For the purposes of the above formula, Excel doesn't consider decimals when evaluating if a number is even or odd. 3.14 is odd, 2.718 is even.
  2. Seed value
    • Seed value is the origin on the coordinate plane.
    • I like to apply recursive functions to a random seed value to generate different sequences for my number line.
  3. The second Modulo Divisor
    • The second modulo divisor can be any integer greater than or equal to 19.

The first fractal in the gallery is the "simplest". It uses the positive number line from 0 to 128 and has 19 as the second modulo divisor. The rest have varying parameters which I forgot to record :(

If you take a look at the patterns I included, they all appear to have a "background". This background is where every cell begins to approximate 2.9183... Regardless of the how the above aspects are tweaked this always occurs.

This is because n=2.9183+2.9183=5.8366. Since this is an odd value (according to Excel), 3n+1 is applied (3*5.8366)+1=18.5098. If the divisor of the second modulo is >19, the output will remain 18.5098. Finally, the natural log is calculated: ln(18.5098)=2.9183. (Technically as long as the divisor of the second modulo is >(6*2.9183)+1 this holds true)

There are also some diagonal streams that are isolated from the so-called background. These are made up of a series of approximating values. In the center is 0.621... then on each side in order is 2.4304... 2.8334... 2.9041... 2.9159... 2.9179... 2.9182... and finally 2.9183... I'm really curious as to what drives this relationship.

The last fractal in the gallery is actually of a different construction. The natural log has been swapped out for Log base 11, the first modulo divisor has been changed to 7, and the second modulo divisor is now 65. A traditional number line is not used for this pattern, instead it is the Collatz Sequence of n=27 (through 128 steps) with 27 being the seed value at the origin.

n[x,y] = (x-1,y)+(x,y-1)
=IFERROR(LOG(MOD(IF(ISODD(n),(n*3)+1,MOD(n,7)),65),11),0)

This method is touchier than the first, but is just as interesting. The key part of this one is the Log base 11. The other values (seed, sequence, both modulo divisors) can be tweaked but don't always yield an "interesting" result. The background value is different too, instead of 2.9183 it is 0.6757.

What I love about this pattern is that it has a very clear "Pascality" to it. You can see the triangles! I have only found this using Log base 11.

If anyone else plays around with this I'd love to see what you come up with :)

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DeGamiesaiKaiSy · 3 months ago

Cool stuff !

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T-Dex_the_T-Rex · OP · 3 months ago

Thank you :)

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alperthetopology · 3 months ago

FUCK YEAH FRACTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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T-Dex_the_T-Rex · OP · 3 months ago

RAHHHHHHHH

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What are some discoveries that took an extremely long time to become useful?

Posted by MothmansProphet · in r/AskHistory · 7 months ago

I was looking up the Fibonacci sequence earlier today, and it seems like when it was first described, it was used for poetry in India or to estimate numbers of immortal rabbits in Europe, neither of which really seem all that useful. So it got me thinking about whether there are other discoveries that were really just interesting for centuries until someone finally discovered a practical use for them?

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KnoWanUKnow2 · 7 months ago

I'll add to this that Quantum Theory, originally formulated in 1900 and largely perfected in the 1920's the 1930's, is only just starting to become useful. Give it another decade or two and we'll be carrying around quantum cellphones.

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IvanLu · 7 months ago

It wasn't that recent. Quantum theory, specifically solid-state physics aided in the development of semiconductors, transistors and eventually the computer.

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Major_Honey_4461 · 7 months ago

Archimedes created a steam powered (toy) boat and chariot, but industrial and nautical use had to wait until the 18th Century.

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IndividualSkill3432 · 7 months ago

This post is about as wrong as you could write it.

One or two people in the Greco Roman world had made a ball full of water with holes in it that when you lit a fire and allowed the water to boil it would spin.

This is an image of one of the earliest steam engines, a machine using steam pressure to extract usable work.

Jacob Leupold Steam engine 1720 - Steam engine - Wikipedia

These come from a very different time and place.

Magdeburg hemispheres - Wikipedia

When the steam pumps then steam engines were being invented, scientists had been very actively researching into air pressure and thus steam pressure. That uses a piston confined in a cylinder to create a motion on a reciprocating motion in one axis that is then used either through balancing beams in the early systems or with things like crank shafts or even wheels in the later versions

Steam engine in action - Reciprocating motion - Wikipedia

Physically its closer to a rocket than a steam engine. It also helps feed into the modern trend of trying to make it seem like everything was invented in the past but somehow forgotten about. This trend comes largely from just how little people know about why things work and how much hard work it took to get useful machines, science and maths we have today. You can see this in some of the wild comments.

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roastbeeftacohat · 7 months ago

I'm not sure your point. there are more intermediary steps between spinning ball and Watt then commonly imagined, but it was still a long time between the potential was well understood and other factors allowed steam power to become practically useful.

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robber_goosy · 7 months ago

Eum, those guys in the ancient world still came up with the basic concept of using steam as a means of propulsion after which it took a very long time until we got actual steam engines.

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Disastrous-Wing699 · 7 months ago

 discoveries that were really just interesting for centuries

Thanks for proving my point, I guess?

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Any-Grapefruit3086 · 7 months ago

I guess it depends on what useful means. Volta invented the battery in 1799, but it seems like the first battery powered appliances for regular consumers weren’t invented until the 1930s, and weren’t really popular till the 50s or 60s. There’s a good chance i’ve got a knowledge gap about uses for batteries between those two dates, but as far as i’m aware that’s an invention with about a 150 year gap before real practical and widespread use that’s obviously become very useful today

(there’s actually evidence of batteries all the way back to the bronze age but as far as i know nobody really knows what they were used for)

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Pe45nira3 · 7 months ago

I remember back in Primary School our Chemistry teacher told us a story that a blacksmith working for Emperor Tiberius in Rome managed to make an aluminium cup and presented it to Tiberius, but because manufacturing it made it more expensive than gold, Tiberius feared that it would ruin the economy of the Empire so he had the blacksmith executed so he'll tell how to manufacture it to no one else.

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Any-Grapefruit3086 · 7 months ago

well there ya go. and obviously telegraph lines were pretty key in their time, which would likely satisfy OPs question about usefulness

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greg_mca · 7 months ago

People worked out how to isolate it early on by casting it like steel, but it was horrendously inefficient in terms of energy and cost. However in 1889 it was discovered that it could be more easily extracted by electroplating in cryolite at 1600 degrees, so it suddenly became economically viable if you had a powerful electrical source. It wasn't a case of not being useful when it was discovered, there was just a big production bottleneck, same as a lot of industrial processes

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MeesterMartinho · 7 months ago

So simple. Why didn't someone electroplate it in cryolite at 1600 degrees before that? Were they stupid?

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I was bored so I started writing down the fibonacci sequence

Posted by beetle8209 · in r/notinteresting · 4 months ago
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HavishGupta · 4 months ago

Man that's so cool

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You may know Fibonacci sequence but have you heard this story?

Posted by 94rud4 · in r/mathmemes · 7 months ago
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PhoenixPringles01 · 7 months ago

How would you go about solving this with number theory? I tried to let x = p/q and try fiddling around but it didn't get me anywhere.

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confinedcolour · 7 months ago

What's the solution

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sexysaucepan · 7 months ago

41/12 if I'm not blind

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RaccoonNo2999 · 7 months ago

Yes but it's not very sexy saucepan of you to not explain how one might get there

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Zealousideal-Ad-8542 · 7 months ago

If you are asking weather of fabis answer is right or not, and if not what is the actual answer, then no, it is not incorrect, fabis answer is right 41/12, I doubted it at first, I don't know how to get there I tried and it didn't work.

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Electronic-Quiet2294 · 7 months ago

Why didn’t he choose infinity is he stupid?

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New-Pomelo9906 · 7 months ago

Infinity is not a rational number. It's not even a number.

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Salty-Intention6971 · 7 months ago

Uh it’s infinity/1 so it’s rational

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King_of_99 · 7 months ago

What is a number anyways??

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hongooi · 7 months ago

Not with that attitude

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OkSalamander2218 · 7 months ago

https://math.stackexchange.com/a/1598504/435819

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What are Desmond's Thoughts on how the Fibonacci Sequence has fascinated minds for 2 centuries?

Posted by PositiveWild6371 · in r/RDCWorld · 2 months ago
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HPDDJ · 2 months ago

"Fibo... Fibowhat?!"

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Comfortable-Lie-3740 · 2 months ago

I’m pretty sure he completely disregarded it at one point saying it’s some sort of absurd concept that he doesn’t agree with on a scientific level.

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frostycsgo2 · 2 months ago

"It gives each played Ace, 2, 3, 5, or 8, +8 mult when scored"

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HPDDJ · 2 months ago

Real Balatros Change The World

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JakeTiny19 · 2 months ago

U abt to break that old mans mind

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Acemaster387 · 2 months ago

Desmond quickly 8 x 8?

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Desperate-Pay4502 · 2 months ago

“Wait why are we going after me? I’m not from Marlin!” 

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Old math paper found in a history of pi by Petr Beckman

Posted by Eli5678 · in r/FoundPaper · 1 year ago
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obiwanobi · 11 months ago

These are notes from a class. They are categorical syllogisms. Usually taught in introduction to philosophy or logic classes.

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No-Victory4408 · 1 year ago

Set theory or Set Notation?

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[Article] The origins of scientific disciplines: a counter-history of western science - Roberto G. Barbosa

Posted by idu36 · in r/Scholar · 2 years ago

DOI/PMID/ISBN: https://doi.org/10.1007/s43539-022-00053-1

[URL]( https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43539-022-00053-1 )

Thank you!

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Signal_Owl_6986 · 2 years ago

Here :)

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idu36 · OP · 2 years ago

thanks solution verified

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Many thanks & regards!!! :)

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history of the Fibonacci sequence

Key Considerations on the History of the Fibonacci Sequence:

  1. Origin: The Fibonacci sequence is named after the Italian mathematician Leonardo of Pisa, known as Fibonacci, who introduced it to the Western world in his book Liber Abaci published in 1202.

  2. Sequence Definition: The sequence starts with 0 and 1, and each subsequent number is the sum of the two preceding ones:

    • 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, ...
  3. Historical Context: Fibonacci introduced the sequence in the context of a problem involving the growth of a population of rabbits. The problem illustrated how the sequence can model natural phenomena.

  4. Earlier References: Although Fibonacci popularized the sequence, it had been previously described in Indian mathematics, particularly in the works of mathematicians like Pingala (circa 200 BC) and later by Virahanka and Gopala in the 6th century.

  5. Mathematical Significance: The Fibonacci sequence has connections to the golden ratio (approximately 1.618), as the ratio of successive Fibonacci numbers approximates the golden ratio as the numbers increase.

  6. Applications: Beyond mathematics, the Fibonacci sequence appears in various fields, including computer science, art, architecture, and nature (e.g., branching in trees, arrangement of leaves, and flower petals).

Takeaway: The Fibonacci sequence is not just a mathematical curiosity; it has deep historical roots and significant implications across various disciplines. Understanding its origins and applications can enhance your appreciation of its role in both mathematics and the natural world.

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