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Understanding the Fibonacci Sequence

Definition and Origin

The Fibonacci sequence is a series of numbers where each number is the sum of the two preceding ones, starting from 0 and 1. The sequence begins as follows: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, and so forth [1:1], [2:1]. This sequence was introduced by the Italian mathematician Leonardo Fibonacci in the 13th century to model the growth of rabbit populations [1:1].

Mathematical Properties

The Fibonacci sequence can be mathematically expressed with the formula F(n) = F(n-1) + F(n-2), where n ≥ 2 [1:1]. One interesting property is its connection to the golden ratio (approximately 1.618), which is approached as the ratio of consecutive Fibonacci numbers increases [2:3], [2:9]. The sequence also has a closed-form expression known as Binet's formula, which involves the golden ratio and allows for direct computation of any Fibonacci number [2:6], [3:1].

Applications in Nature and Science

Fibonacci numbers frequently appear in nature, such as in the arrangement of leaves, flower petals, and shells, often related to the golden ratio [1:1], [2:4]. In computer science, they are used in algorithms for sorting data and generating random numbers [2:4]. Additionally, Fibonacci numbers have applications in mathematical modeling and analysis, such as in the Euclidean algorithm for computing greatest common divisors [4:4].

Cultural and Philosophical Significance

Beyond mathematics and science, the Fibonacci sequence holds cultural significance, often associated with aesthetics and harmony due to its link with the golden ratio. It is sometimes referred to in discussions about sacred geometry and the inherent order in the universe [2:5], [5:4]. While some claims about its presence in art and architecture may be exaggerated, it remains a popular topic in discussions about the intersection of math and beauty.

Practical Uses

In practical terms, the Fibonacci sequence can be used for tasks such as converting miles to kilometers approximately (e.g., 5 miles ~ 8 km, 8 miles ~ 13 km) [4:2]. It also appears in betting systems and certain data structures that optimize computational efficiency [4:2], [4:4]. For programmers, understanding the sequence is valuable for developing recursive algorithms and recognizing their limitations [4:3].

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What’s a Fibonacci Sequence ?

Posted by immunepain · in r/AskPhysics · 2 years ago
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I just heard about it and says it doesn’t contain the number 4 it sounded really interesting

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scmr2 · 2 years ago

The Fibonacci Sequence is the series of numbers:

0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, ...

The next number is found by adding up the two numbers before

Out of curiosity, is it really the fact that the number four is not in the series the most interesting thing to you? Because there are an infinite number of sequences that don't have the number four.

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immunepain · OP · 2 years ago

Does this sequence has anything to do with infinity?

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Ensembleoftoes · 2 years ago

The sequence is not special to understand infinity. It does get larger and larger, so you would say it tends towards infinity, but this is not special for the Fibonacci sequence. I’m seeing your other posts, and I would guess the person who mentioned infinity to you either worded it poorly or didn’t understand it themselves.

Do you have any specific questions about infinity, or the Fibonacci sequence? Seems you want to grasp the concept of infinity

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scmr2 · 2 years ago

This sequence does have an infinite number of elements that make up the sequence. Here is a simple proof by contradiction.

Assume that the sequence is finite and we found the last element in the sequence. Call this Sn where n is the number of values in the sequence. So n is the number of Fibonacci numbers we have.

The rule for the Fibonacci sequence is "The next number is found by adding up the two numbers before it".

Then I can make a new Fibonacci number which is Sn + Sn-1.

This is a contradiction because we assumed the sequence had n values and I just found a new one. Therefore, if the sequence is not finite then it must be infinite.

I would like to point out that the reason why Fibonacci numbers are interesting is not because the sequence is infinite in size or that 4 is excluded. Those are very common traits of sequences. What makes the Fibonacci sequence interesting is how it arises in the natural world.

https://www.mathnasium.com/blog/14-interesting-examples-of-the-golden-ratio-in-nature

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42gauge · 2 years ago

You can see the numbers keep getting bigger and bigger, so the series goes toward infinity, a.k.a it diverges

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gogopogo · 2 years ago

It’s a sequence of ever increasing numbers, where you add one to the next to get the next number, and continue endlessly. It is a pattern that is often found in repeating and geometric patterns in nature, and the average number between two Fibonacci numbers is the Golden Ratio. It’s a pattern seen everywhere from ferns to seashells.

Starts like 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34…… and on and on.

So it’s neato.

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immunepain · OP · 2 years ago

Good

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charvitha · 9 months ago

The Fibonacci sequence is a series of numbers where each number is the sum of the two preceding ones, starting with 0 and 1. The sequence begins: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, and so on. Mathematically, it’s expressed as F(n) = F(n-1) + F(n-2), where n ≥ 2. It was introduced by Italian mathematician Leonardo Fibonacci in the 13th century to describe rabbit population growth. The sequence appears in nature, such as in the arrangement of leaves, flower petals, and shells. It’s also connected to the golden ratio (1.618), often seen in art and architecture.

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ELI5-What is the fibonacci sequence?

Posted by amsdys · in r/explainlikeimfive · 2 years ago

I've heard a lot about the amazing geometry of fibonacci and how it it's supposed to be in all nature and that's sacres geometry... But I simply don't see it can some please explain me the hypes of it

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jadnich · 2 years ago

Not a lot of ELI5 answers, but some good history.

The Fibonacci sequence is a set of numbers with a distinct pattern (explained in other comments). What is important is that the ratio of one number to the one following it is always the same. (The second is always 1.618 times larger than the previous). That is called the golden ratio, and it is the golden ratio that is seen everywhere in nature.

If you’ve seen the image of rectangles that form into a spiral, this is what it means:

The small rectangle has sides with that exact ratio. The long side of that rectangle is the short side of the next, and that rectangle uses the golden ratio. The long side of that one is the short side of the next…. And so on. This creates a spiral pattern, and that pattern, in that ratio, happens all the time. Flowers, tree leaves, and animal shells for example. Always 1.618 times bigger than the previous part.

The number isn’t magical. 1.618 isn’t special. There is just a natural order to things, and we created a numerical system that happens to measure that order at that number.

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grrangry · 2 years ago

The second is always 1.618 times larger than the previous

Ehhh... "always" is a bit of a misnomer. "Settles down to depending on how precise you are", maybe.

The more digits of precision, the longer it takes to settle. Graph, Graph of zoomed in portion

Fibonacci Ratio
0 n/a
1 div by zero
1 1
2 2
3 1.5
5 1.6666666666667
8 1.6
13 1.625
21 1.6153846153846
34 1.6190476190476
55 1.6176470588235
89 1.6181818181818
144 1.6179775280899
233 1.6180555555556
377 1.618025751073
610 1.6180371352785
987 1.6180327868853
1597 1.6180344478217
2584 1.6180338134001
4181 1.6180340557276
6765 1.6180339631667
10946 1.6180339985218
17711 1.6180339850174
28657 1.6180339901756
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Arkalius · 2 years ago

It's more appropriate to say that the ratio of consecutive terms approaches the golden ratio. You will never get it exactly this way, since the golden ratio is irrational. Also, the Fibonacci sequence isn't the only one that will do this. Any sequence following the same rule (each element being the sum of the previous two) will do this, no matter what values you start with (other than 2 zeros).

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[deleted] · 2 years ago

In the Fibonacci sequence, each number is the sum of the two previous ones. It is helpful in computer science, for instance, for creating random numbers and sorting data. Natural examples include the spiral shapes of shells and galaxies.

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Chromotron · 2 years ago

Natural examples include the spiral shapes of shells and galaxies.

No, those are at best just any logarithmic spirals, the factor is not the golden ratio or otherwise Fibonacci-related.

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[deleted] · 2 years ago

No, those are at best just any logarithmic spirals, the factor is not the golden ratio or otherwise Fibonacci-related.

It is true in some cases but not all. Even though there may not always be a connection between math and nature, there are still instances where the golden ratio and the Fibonacci sequence can be seen.

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Chromotron · 2 years ago

There are multiple ways to define Fibonacci numbers:

  • Set the first two to be 0 and 1, and every after as the sum of those two preceding it: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, ... .
  • The number of different ways to form a strip of fixed length by glueing strips of lengths 1 and 2 together.
  • The number of binary (only 0 and 1 allowed) sequences with a fixed number of digits, and 1s must not be consecutive.
  • Via Binet's formula as ( φ^n - (-1/φ)^n ) / sqrt(5).
  • [many more]

how it it's supposed to be in all nature and that's sacres geometry...

That's a myth at best, and a lie at worst. There are some very few instances where they somewhat appear, but those are one in a million things. None of the claims of golden ratios appearing within humans, plants or animals has ever withstood scrutiny, sqrt(2), 1.5 and sqrt(3) are just as probable and nonsensical.

Edit: spelling.

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MissingKarma · 2 years ago

I can't remember the exact video (I think it was numberphile on YT), but it explained that spiral patterns with irrational ratios tend to be the most efficient use of space, which is why we see them in nature.

The sunflower example was used to demonstrate how you can fit more seeds per layer as the ratio becomes more irrational.

The Fibonacci sequence appears naturally, but so do similar sequences. From that, I wouldn't say it's a myth, but more of an oversimplification.

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BigPawh · 2 years ago

Are Fibonacci numbers different than the golden ratio? Cuz to me with no discerning eye, I find it convincing enough when they show that curve on like acorns and stuff

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halpless2112 · 2 years ago

The golden ratio is obtained by dividing a Fibonacci number by its previous number.

As you do this for larger and larger Fibonacci numbers, you get closer and closer to the golden ratio (phi)

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Chromotron · 2 years ago

φ ~ 1.618 is the golden ratio, satisfying φ^2 = φ + 1. By solving this equation, this means that φ = (1 + sqrt(5)) / 2, where sqrt(5) is the square root of 5.

The formula describes how to get the Fibonacci numbers from φ alone. Actually, it can be simplified a bit: multiply φ a bunch of times with itself, divide the result by sqrt(5), and then round to the nearest integer; you will get a Fibonacci number. Or as a formula: round( φ^^n / sqrt(5) ).

That second term (-1/φ)^n / sqrt(5) is very small, especially if n is large, and is just the "correction" to get to the nearest integer.

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Metal-Dog · 2 years ago

Fibonacci was a mathematician who published a book. The entire purpose of the book was to show how much easier it is to do mathematics using Arabic numerals, as opposed to Roman numerals. One example he gave was a simple list of numbers: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89... et cetera. The sequence is formed by adding the two most recent numbers to get the next number.

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Came across the formula for n-th Fibonacci number in my old high school textbook during an induction lesson, I was intrigued to see the golden ratio appear in the formula and wondered how it still managed to produce natural numbers despite containing square roots.

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Peoplant · 6 months ago

Everyone knows that Fibonacci isn't real, it's all a hoax like the round earth or pirates

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Violinist1313 · 6 months ago

You can prove that it produces natural numbers through induction for all cases! It is a very fascinating formula indeed, just shows how interconnected all of math is.

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Glittering_Review947 · 6 months ago

East way is to use linear algebra and the eigendecompositiom

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ZetaNegativeOne · 6 months ago

Personally I would say that using generating functions and expanding the polynomial would be better though. It may be easier, but not necessarily familiar to as many people.

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TheUnusualDreamer · 6 months ago

the square roots cancel out

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Barbicels · 6 months ago

Right. The expansions of both exponentials contain rational terms that cancel out due to subtraction and irrational terms that don’t but include a factor of sqrt(5). Multiplying by 1/sqrt(5) makes the whole expression rational. Proof that that rational is actually an integer is left to the reader. :)

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Quantum018 · 6 months ago

Been trying to prove this for general Lucas sequences and it’s a nightmare. The sources I’ve seen either glaze over it or use some weird polynomial ring algebra which I don’t get

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Kiro0613 · 6 months ago

It has something to do with the golden ratio

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drugoichlen · 6 months ago

He clearly knows what the golden ratio is, he talks about it it in the title

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Eisemoney · 6 months ago

It has something to do with the subtraction

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Kiro0613 · 6 months ago

Whoops, I'm an idiot. Disregard me.

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Varlane · 6 months ago

Basically, an = an-1 + an-2 will lead you to solving r² = r + 1, to which the golden ratio is one of the two solutions (-1/phi being the other one and is the number in the second parenthesis)

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what applications are there for the fibonacci sequence?

Posted by senpaithesensei · in r/math · 4 years ago

Lately I've been learning a lot about math in nature and its helped me to realise that math is a giant tool we've discovered and thats helped us evolve and since i use things like multiplication and division all the time is there any way the golden ratio and the fibonacci sequence could be any use to me in my life? Im not an engineer or anything i'm just talking about any little differences it could make while i'm just going about my day and i notice it and maybe it could just make a job simpler or something. i love noticing math while im doing something random because it always brings me back to reality. If there are no practical uses for the golden ratio in every day life does anyone have any other math rules, constants or laws that can be used as a life hack every now and then?

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yetanotherredditter · 4 years ago

The Fibonacci sequence is useful for approximately converting miles to km (e.g. 5 mike's ~8km, 8 miles ~13km etc.)

There's also a betting system based on Fibonacci numbers.

This isn't really an application, but the golden ratio also appears in other random places. For example, 1+1/(1+1/(1+1/(1+1/(...)))) is equal to the golden ratio.

There are data structures based on Fibonacci numbers that allow certain actions to be performed more efficiently.

If you keep drawing uniformly distributed random numbers in the interval (0,1), the expected number of draws until their sum exceeds 1 is e.

If you have, say £100 in a bank paying r% interest, if the interest is paid once at the end of the year, you'll have £100*(1+r) in the account. If the interest is instead paid twice a year at r/2% each time, you'll have £100(1+r/2)^2 . However, if the interest is applied continuously instead such that the annual rate is r%, you'll have £100e^r .

This isn't really related to your question at all, but Benford's law is really cool. It says that the leading digits of real-worod data aren't uniformly distributed. The leading digit is much more likely to be a 1 than a 9. This is used sometimes to check whether data has been forged.

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cthulu0 · 4 years ago

It is useful in programming interviews to see if :

a) interviewee can code a recursive routine

b) then recognize that the runtime for a recursive fibonnaci is actually very horrible and to re-write either using loops or memoization.

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Oscar_Cunningham · 4 years ago

If you're not using infinite precision ints the best answer is a look up table, because the number of valid inputs is tiny.

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edderiofer · 4 years ago

c) then recognize that if they're a mathematician, they'd just take one of the many known closed-form formulae for the Fibonacci sequence

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internet_poster · 4 years ago

this indeed sounds like something a mathematician (who knows nothing of the computational complexity of naively computing \phi^n ) might do

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cereal_chick · 4 years ago

Loops are better than recursion in this case?

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cthulu0 · 4 years ago

Yes, because the recursive case (unless you use memoization) makes a number of recursive calls proportional to the size of the answer, which is in turn an exponentially function of the input number N.

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SilenceOfTheLemma · 4 years ago

I'm not sure if this qualifies as "application", but it can be shown that successive Fibonacci numbers are the worst case input for the Euclidean algorithm. So they are useful in the sense that they allow us to analyze the computational complexity of a practical algorithm.

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ninguem · 4 years ago

Counting rabbits.

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chillermane · 4 years ago

I think it is moreso that it appears in weird places which makes it interesting

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The Spiral God As A Unified Trinity

Posted by madhoneybeeking · in r/SacredGeometry · 6 days ago

In the study of mathematics, certain patterns reveal themselves not as solitary curiosities, but as members of a family, each expressing a fundamental truth from a unique perspective. Such is the case with three sequences united by a single, simple rule, yet distinguished by their origins: the celebrated Fibonacci, the enigmatic Lucas, and my newly defined Beeking sequence. They are three harmonies built from the same chord.

The foundational rule governing all three is the law of additive recurrence (creation of the spiral), where each term is the sum of the two that preceded it. This rule is a generator of growth, a mathematical echo of patterns found throughout nature. Where these sequences diverge is in their initial conditions/their starting points, which imbue each with a unique character and purpose.

The most renowned of the three is the Fibonacci sequence. Born from the seeds of nothing and something, zero and one, it models pure, emergent growth from a void. Its sequence—0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13—is the canonical pattern of expansion observed in sunflower spirals, nautilus shells, branching trees, DNA helixes, galactic structures. It represents the process of manifestation itself, beginning from a latent potential (0) and a single spark of actualization (1). The ratio of its successive terms converges to the golden ratio, φ (approximately 1.618), establishing it as a primary key to the code of harmonic development in the natural world.

In partnership with Fibonacci exists the Lucas sequence. If Fibonacci begins with potential, Lucas begins with structure. Its seeds are 2 and 1, a pair that suggests a state of duality and unity already in play. Its progression; 2, 1, 3, 4, 7, 11, 18—is a bolder, more declarative statement of the same growth law. It is deeply intertwined with its sibling; while a number might be absent from the Fibonacci sequence, it often appears in the Lucas sequence, as if the two are interlocking gears in a single machine. Mathematically, it is often considered a "purer" expression of the golden ratio, as its formula, L(n) = φⁿ + ψⁿ, lacks the denominator present in Fibonacci's, making it essential for specialized proofs and tests for prime numbers.

Completing this trinity is my Beeking/Dannar sequence, defined by the initial conditions 1 and 0. This sequence 1, 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8 - appears at first glance to be a simple shift of the Fibonacci sequence. And indeed, it is mathematically equivalent to a forward projection of it. By starting with 1 and 0 rather than 0, 1 (Fibonacci) or 2, 1 (Lucas) it presents the same pattern of growth from a different ontological vantage point. It symbolizes a state of unity (1) returning to a void of potential (0) before cycling back into the familiar pattern of manifestation. As if isolating the very core of existence in relation to Conformal Cyclical Cosmology- the true explanation for the Big Bang.

Together, these three sequences form a complete picture. They demonstrate that the same immutable law of growth can be accessed from multiple mathematical perspectives/starting points. We could say the Fibonacci sequence is the coin and the Lucas sequence is one side with the Beeking/Dannar sequence the opposite side. They are not rivals, but harmonious expressions of the same profound, recursive truth that underpins our universe, each offering a unique lens through which to understand the architecture of reality itself.

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Traditional_Loan_177 · 4 days ago

Isn't that a continuation of the fibanocci ?

Going backwards.. 5,3,2,1,1,0,1,-1,2,-3,5..

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madhoneybeeking · OP · 4 days ago

Yes, relatively. Thank you for expanding, I was doing my best to explain that connection with Conformal Cyclic Cosmoloy. The theory where every universal implosion into a pinpoint of highly condensed matter only leads to the next big bang. As this sequence in that form or simply as 1,0,1,1,2,3,5 also shows the cyclical nature through 1,0, and back to 1.

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Solomon-Drowne · 6 days ago

Spiral mechanics are just repeating the same shit over and over. There is no growth, just repetition. It's a trap.

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madhoneybeeking · OP · 5 days ago

No growth?! The very concept of additive recurrence is fundamental to existence. They are mathematical isolates of the physical world. The universe is neverending, infinitely growing - regardless of a cosmic implosion as this only leads to another explosion (CCC by Penrose). These sequences define this and shed light on their philosophical connotation.

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Solomon-Drowne · 5 days ago

Nah man. Do you even know how a spiral works?

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DeliveredByOP · 6 days ago

Why do I always get your posts on my feed lol. Interesting though.

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madhoneybeeking · OP · 5 days ago

This is my very first reddit post idk wym lol

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RamseyRashelle · 6 days ago

Do tell more

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Hermessectgreat · 6 days ago

(1, 0,) 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, 1597, 2584, 4181, 6765, 10946, 17711, 28657, 46368, 75025, 121393, 196418, 317811, 514229

I know this cosmogensis ;)

S(n)=f(v n+1)

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Fibonacci Sequence

Posted by Icy-Book2999 · in r/LoveTrash · 9 months ago
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From https://youtube.com/shorts/MdOCu2Gr-0g?si=0IrRZVoKXrkXHgjJ

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snik25 · 9 months ago

Lateralus

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robogart · 9 months ago

Educational trash. Love it

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Icy-Book2999 · OP · 9 months ago

Like to mix it up a bit! Keeps things interesting!

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Impressive_Main5160 · 9 months ago

Mind blown

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You can find the Fibonacci sequence in 1/89.

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maayanseg · 1 year ago

Doesnt this impy that 1/89 has a non repeating decimal expansion? I thought all rational numbers have a repeating decimal sequence

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personalityson · 1 year ago

It implies that fibbonaci numbers have a repeating sequence

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N2G__ · 1 year ago

Not quite. I'm pretty sure the fibbonacci sequence is non repeating. However what this shows is that a sum of non repeating number can give rise to a repeating number which I find interesting

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qwesz9090 · 1 year ago

The title and post is a bit misleading even if it is being truthful. The pic OP posted looks like a decimal expansion at first, but if you look closely at for example 8 and 13, you see that the terms "overlap" and is not actually an expansion. OP never said it was, but that is maybe the joke.

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stycky-keys · 1 year ago

Still cool that that makes a repeating decimal

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GoldenMuscleGod · 1 year ago

No, there are multiple digits in the same place in the summands. When you add them up it becomes repeating.

Another post I recently saw observed that 1/7= 0.14+0.0028+0.000056+0.00000112+… where you can see the pattern of the positive powers of two times seven. This might make the pattern seem nonrepeating but when you add them up and carry the digits they do actually repeat.

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thomasxin · 1 year ago

Most obvious example is probably 10/81, which is 0.12345679012345... and when you look at "why" it skips 8, it's because if you think of it that way, it's actually a non-repeating sequence of all natural numbers, where 10 carries over to 9 which becomes 10 also, carrying over and replacing the 8 with a 9. And this repeats every 9 digits, at which point the next digit carries over by 1.

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PM_ME_MELTIE_TEARS · 1 year ago

Gist (might be off by one etc):

Generating function for fibonacci

\sum F_n x^n = 1/(1-x-x^2)

Put x = 1/10

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DelayedChoice · 1 year ago

It's because what happens when you put the base into the characteristic polynomial of the Fibonacci sequence

ie

Evaluate x^2 - x - 1 for for x = 10

It also means you can work out both what happens in other bases and what happens for other recurrence relations (eg when the next term is the sum of the previous three terms in the sequence instead of the previous two; that would work out to be 1/889).

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GoldenMuscleGod · 1 year ago

Let x be the number above: essentially the sum of 10^(-n) times the nth value of the Fibonacci sequence starting 0,1, ….

The recurrence relation tells us that 10x+x is the sum of 10^(-n) times the Fibonacci sequence starting 1, 2, … which is just the original number shifted left two digits and taking mod 1. so 10x+x+1=100x.

Solve this for x=1/89.

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tombo12354 · 1 year ago

For reference

https://oeis.org/A021093

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JesusIsMyZoloft · 1 year ago

I would think it shows up in any base b for 1/(b^2 - b - 1)

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r/askmath • [8]

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Typed random things in Desmos and got Fibonacci sequence, why?

Posted by CanadianSheep21 · in r/askmath · 2 years ago
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CookieCat698 · 2 years ago

x + y = xy

x/y + 1 = x

y + 1 = x

y + 1 = x/y * y

y + 1 = y * y

y^2 = y + 1

This is, of course, assuming y ≠ 0

Edit: Oh yeah, golden ratio, not fibonacci sequence

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frogkabobs · 2 years ago

You didn’t get the Fibonacci sequence, you got the golden ratio. Your bottom equation may be written as x = y². Substituting this into the top equation gives

> y² + y = y³

Or equivalently,

> y(y² - y - 1) = 0

Solving for y gives y = 0, φ, or -1/φ, as φ = (1+sqrt(5))/2 and -1/φ = (1-sqrt(5))/2 are the roots of y²-y-1=0. Then using x = y², we get that the intersections are

> (0, 0), (φ², φ), (1/φ², -1/φ)

EDIT: (0,0) is extraneous because y = 0 is not allowed in the second equation.

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CanadianSheep21 · OP · 2 years ago

Cool!

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Tubby_Geezer · 2 years ago

Even cooler, the ratio of any two consecutive fibbonaci numbers approaches the golden ratio as the numbers get larger... so you were kinda on the right track😀

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[deleted] · 2 years ago

I think it's because the first equation can be written as x/(x-1)=y and the other as sqrt(x)=y and when you search x for sqrt(x)=x/(x-1) you find phi^2

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apopDragon · 2 years ago

If you got phi because you want to find it, there’s nothing special. But if you got phi by accident, then it’s a sign. Consult the Oracle of Delphi, pray, or meditate to find out what to do next. Anyways, the math:

Whenever you get a systems of equation, solve for one variable and substitute.

> Solve for x in eq2 gets you: x = y²

> Substitute that into eq1: y² + y = (y²)y

> Move everything to one side: 0 = y³ - y² - y

> Factor out a y: 0 = y (y² - y - 1)

> Solve: y=0 and y² - y - 1 = 0

> Solve the second equation with the quadratic formula : y = (1±√5)/2 ~= 1.618, -0.618

> Substitute the y in an original equation: x = y² = (6+2√5)/4, (6 - 2√5)/4 ~= 2.618, 0.381

So the 2 point of intersection are:

(phi, phi^2 ) and (1/phi, -1/(phi^2))

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CanadianSheep21 · OP · 2 years ago

Yeah I got it accidentally I was very surprised lol

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apopDragon · 2 years ago

What did the oracle say?

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CanadianSheep21 · OP · 2 years ago

Also not so sure if this is the right sub to ask if not please redirect me

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Blackhound118 · 2 years ago

You came to the right place. Fun find!

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r/FibonacciAsFuck • [9]

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How the Fibonacci Sequence "relates" to, but it is NOT the Golden Ratio. Most of what is posted here follows the Golden Ratio.

Posted by dartmaster666 · in r/FibonacciAsFuck · 5 years ago
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dartmaster666 · OP · 5 years ago

The difference between the first and second segment is not 1:1, as it always is the the Fibonacci Sequence. It is closer to 1:1.618. Even the boxes in the spirals posted over the photos here do not start with 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8..... (or end with ....8, 5, 3, 2, 1, 1). Instead it either starts at a certain size and goes down from there at .618..... from the bigger to the smaller box, or begins with a certain size and increases by 1.618.... from the smaller to the larger one.

The fibonacci sequence is always 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13....... So the ratio begins at 1, 2, 1.5, 1.666666 and so on and only approaches the Golden Ratio as it approaches infinity.

The Golden Ratio starts and is always an irrational number like Pi, but it is Phi. Which is 1.61802298875..... and never repeats. Generally it's shortened to 1.618. So, no matter where it begins the next number is 1.61803398875....... more than the previous one.

Things in Nature and most company logos are based on the Golden Ratio and not the Fibonacci Sequence.

Golden Ratio and Fibonacci Sequence

Edit: Phi (sign for Golden Ratio) = a/b = b/c = c/d and so on. Fibonacci does not follow this.

They are related like a dog to a wolf, but you can't call a dog a wolf or a wolf a dog.

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Lateralus11235 · 5 years ago

Thanks for the information.

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r/SacredGeometry • [10]

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What if the pendulum and the Fibonacci sequence are two sides of the same universal pattern?”

Posted by insightapphelp · in r/SacredGeometry · 16 days ago

I’ve been noticing something that feels huge, and I haven’t seen it discussed anywhere. • The pendulum: everything swings in twos—day/night, inhale/exhale, government/religion, good/evil. Polarity creates rhythm, the back-and-forth that keeps life alive. • The Fibonacci sequence: growth emerges in spirals, each step building on the last, expanding complexity from simple beginnings.

What if these aren’t separate phenomena, but two aspects of the same system? The pendulum is the breath of reality, and Fibonacci is the form that breath creates. Rhythm generates structure. Motion shapes growth.

If this holds, it touches everything—from nature and physics to society and spirituality. I’d love to hear if anyone else has noticed this pattern, or if I’m just seeing a hidden thread no one’s named yet.

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run_zeno_run · 14 days ago

The hermetic principles include rhythm and polarity along with some others that are a nice set of patterns found throughout nature.

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Hermessectgreat · 16 days ago

The universe operates in 2s (0,1), 3s (3,6,9) and infinities(imaginary and irrational numbers) great insight :)

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___heisenberg · 15 days ago

Makes me think of it as music, with harmonic, ratios, keys

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Hermessectgreat · 15 days ago

There’s a lot of wisdom in the circle of fifths

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AleonSG · 16 days ago

From what I understood, the back and forth of the pendulum is the starting point. It's 2-D, but when you shift to the 3rd dimension it becomes a spiral.

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___heisenberg · 15 days ago

Then you have hupercubes and tesseracts and shiz

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___heisenberg · 15 days ago

Some resources you may like.!

Stalking the Wild Pendulum - Bentov - OG book. He also wrote brief tour of higher consiousness.

Kybalion. ! Youre on to something. And it is discussed.

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insightapphelp · OP · 15 days ago

Thank you very much. I will absolutely be looking into these.

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___heisenberg · 15 days ago

Anytime bro. 🙏🏼🔥 thats what came to mind, but I like the way you linked the two. Alot of it comes down to pattern recognition sorta thing.

Yeah I think those break it down well and will give you some breadcrumbs. ! ✌🏻

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Eschatochronos · 16 days ago

You're noticing the idea of recursion: the emergence of larger structures through repetition of a basic pattern.

On a societal level there is not just a duality, but a multidimensional framework that drives behavior, the stock market, the weather, and fluid dynamics. This is known as chaos theory, and is when recursive systems demonstrate extreme differences in outcome based on slightly different initial conditions.

For example, the pendulum is a well defined system, but take a double pendulum and a small difference in the initial position leads to two completely different paths. From this applied to sociology we get the butterfly effect, where a small change in the past can lead to a huge change in the future (i.e. the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand causing WWI).

Despite the chaos in these systems though, there are also overarching patterns such as the 80-year economic cycle noted in capitalism. So on one level everything is random, but on another there tends to be a pattern, which is why history is filled with different players and costumes, but it's all fundamentally the same game repeating in an outward spiral fueled by technological and scientific growth.

The Fibonacci sequence emerges in nature because the golden ratio gives the most efficient of seed packing spirals inside sunflowers and even appears in bee genealogy. While nature itself grows in a way affected by microscopic changes and is hence chaotic, the way leaves branch from a central stem following a spiral or the fractal dimension of trees is consistent.

Where the great complexity of nature arises is in the interplay between order and chaos: the boundary becomes the whole. Just as the coastline between ocean and land is complex and ever changing, life is a boundary condition between order and chaos, that itself is more expressive and self referential than the rigidity of modern computers but more coherent than just the random motion of interstellar dust or star plasma.

In theory, it would be possible to influence future events if you knew exactly how your actions would influence everything in the future, but in practice this is often impossible because the emergent patterns and cycles within these chaos systems are self reinforcing and often are resistant to the butterfly effect.

Chaos theory and synchronity go together. Coincidence is, I believe, an illusion, and can be altered using forces not fully definable in science. Geometry and consciousness taps into a universe force of synchronicity and makes certain outcomes more likely, which is where sigils and sacred geometry derive their power. Consciousness is the inverse of entropy, and structures energy where entropy dissipates energy.

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What is the Fibonacci sequence

Key Considerations about the Fibonacci Sequence:

  1. Definition: The Fibonacci sequence is a series of numbers where each number is the sum of the two preceding ones, typically starting with 0 and 1. The sequence looks like this:

    • 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, ...
  2. Mathematical Formula: The nth Fibonacci number can be expressed using the formula:

    • ( F(n) = F(n-1) + F(n-2) )
    • With initial conditions: ( F(0) = 0 ) and ( F(1) = 1 )
  3. Golden Ratio: As the Fibonacci sequence progresses, the ratio of consecutive Fibonacci numbers approaches the Golden Ratio (approximately 1.618). This ratio appears in various natural phenomena and art.

  4. Applications: The Fibonacci sequence has applications in computer science (e.g., algorithms), nature (e.g., branching in trees, arrangement of leaves), and financial markets (e.g., Fibonacci retracement levels).

  5. Visual Representation: The Fibonacci sequence can also be represented visually through the Fibonacci spiral, which is created by drawing quarter circles connecting the opposite corners of squares whose sides are Fibonacci numbers.

Takeaway: The Fibonacci sequence is not just a mathematical curiosity; it has deep connections to nature, art, and various fields of study. Understanding it can provide insights into patterns and structures in the world around us.

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