TL;DR In "Elden Ring," you cannot upgrade armor in the traditional sense as seen in earlier games like Dark Souls 1 and 2. However, you can alter certain pieces for cosmetic changes and slight stat adjustments using a special item.
Armor Alteration
While direct upgrading of armor is not possible, you can alter some armor pieces. This alteration is done at Sites of Grace after obtaining specific items like sewing needles. The alterations mainly involve cosmetic changes such as removing cloaks or adjusting hoods, which may slightly affect stats and weight [1:1]
[5:1]. However, these changes are minimal and do not significantly enhance defensive capabilities
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Game Design Philosophy
The absence of armor upgrading aligns with FromSoftware's design philosophy since Dark Souls 3, where armor upgrades were removed to emphasize player skill and strategy over equipment stats [2:3]
[5:4]. This change allows players to focus more on aesthetics—often referred to as "Elden Bling"—and less on min-maxing armor stats
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Impact on Gameplay
Armor in "Elden Ring" plays a lesser role in character defense compared to weapons and shields. Players often find that the difference between medium and heavy armor is marginal in terms of damage absorption [4:2]. Instead, players are encouraged to invest in other attributes like Vigor to increase survivability
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Community Insights
Many players have expressed disappointment about the inability to upgrade armor, citing nostalgia for the tank builds possible in earlier Souls games [3:4]. However, others appreciate the freedom to choose armor based on appearance rather than stats, making fashion a significant aspect of the game
[5:4].
In summary, while you can't upgrade armor in "Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree," you can make minor alterations for aesthetic purposes. Focus on finding armor that suits your style and complements your build, as the game's mechanics prioritize skill and strategic play over raw defensive stats.
I’m specifically not looking to be directed to altering its appearance and instead, trying to improve the stats of my armor.
Also specifically not weapons. Armor only.
I haven’t been able to figure out if this is possible and have been looking for the answer extensively.
Thanks in advance
Yea altering the armour with the needle does change the stats and weight
Apparently, you cannot upgrade armor at this time, directly and purposefully.
When you beat the twin boss in the cave by the sea and get the needle and thread you will be able to alter your torso armor only, which includes a reroll of abilities. It is not guaranteed to be a better roll. I don't know if you can do it more than once. It only works for torso armor.
It works for more than torso armour. I've altered helms as well.
The helm doesn't show up for me in the alteration window.
You need to rescue a monkey man and be nice and then beat up some demi-god jerk squad and get the thread for altering gear.
So far any smiths I’ve seen only upgrade weapons.
I found some golden thread and needle and at bonfires it says I can "modify garments" however, none of the clothes I have show up
land of reeds armor gets different stats when altered
40 hours and still havent been able to upgrade armor. Have you been able to OP?
Negative. I ended up just grinding to an OP level and wearing whatever I thought looked cool. Didn’t care much about stats after getting such high intelligence :/
yeah I been wearing the purple cloths from one of the first bosses mobs in the castle for 25 levels now. Just wearing whats cool as well. Still using the same dual blade too.
Gear doesnt seem to drop or drop for me but weapons have been droping for me alot.
Im so fucking confused - so you can upgrade your weapons but not your armor? How does that make any sense
For the life of me I can’t find it. When I go to the blacksmith or anvil the only option available is “Strengthen armament”. I’ve looked online and they all tell me that’s where it should be. Am I missing an important item or something?
No armor upgrades - just find a better set if anything. Armor isn't the biggest gamechanger though don't think it will be a massive improvement for defence necessarily. I always base my armor 20% on stats and 80% on looks, Elden Bling baby
Theres no armor upgrading in this game, just like there wasnt in DS3.
Armor isnt even necessary anyway, lol
Lol no Armour upgrade.. my base clothes has had higher stats than any Armour I've found so far lmao.. kinda weird if you askbme consider im wearing shirts and shit and actual Armour protects me less lol
Armor isn’t a huge game changer. Of course depends on the class you go for but for a dual wielding warrior type you’re better off focusing on dps
And I have the full godrick set but not wearing it because they are less than my starting clothes lmfao
You don't upgrade armor. You can alter the appearance of some pieces from a Grace after you find the item to do so, but that's it.
What? Really. You could upgrade your armor to 10+ in dark souls.
They cut that starting in DS3. It was never that important anyway, just a sink for extra materials when your weapons were done.
I’d love if they would let us customize it purely cosmetic wise, color and whatnot.
The smith does not offer the service, is there a item you have to find/ complete a quest. Or is there no armor upgrades in Elden ring?
there is a cave on the west side of the map down by the water its called costal cave its just straight left of the tutorial place down by the water u need to defeat a boss.. for some reason i am unable to upgrade my armor with it though
Need a gold sewing needle, all it does is lighten armor tho and nerf stats a lil
That's only cosmetics.
You can alter armor. Atleast some. By bonfire. With seewing sets or something. Something
This is all I've found. Get sewing needles for different armors. Slightly changes stats & appearance.
Armor upgrading hasn't been a thing since DS2
Aww a real shame. I was hoping it would come back for ER but alas, no.
It was so nice back in DS1 you could turn yourself into a veritable tank ala the dark iron set. It took a stupid amount of twinkling titanite but man, once it was fully upgraded you'd shrug off hits like nothing.
Guess if I want to be tankier in ER I gotta just find a better set of armor.
Between buff spells/consumables, heavy armor with high poise, and the new Guard Counter mechanic, tank builds are more viable than ever, so honesty idk what the other guy's talking about.
If you want a guide, here's a good video (and channel) that helped me a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLCIFe9h6zc
>tankier in ER
Talk about an oxymoron.
Tank builds don't exist anymore, we just have to accept it.
Oh oh fuck your right
When you could upgrade armor you could screw pvp balance by staying low Soul level but maxing armor. Back then pvp was within 10 levels of each other so if you were a low level player with high level armor you had huge advantage.
Yeah I’m gonna assume there is no Armor upgrading.
I cant seem to find a way to upgrade amour that i like how it looks. Smith only upgrade weapons. Is there a place i need to go?
If this game is like ds3 you legit can't upgrade armor. Suggest putting some more points into vigor if you dont want to change armors.
Damn. Thats a bummer
Not really. Makes fasion a lot more prevelant as armor is only the difference between getting killed in 3 hits in medium armor or 4 in the heaviest.
so is there a way to upgrade my armor in elden ring just like in the dark souls series? if yes please tell me how.
It seems PushSquare lied to us. They have an article that clearly states that you can upgrade weapons and armor at Church of Ellah and Roundtable Hold. I was confused because no you can't upgrade armor, not at either of these locations, but what do I know? I'm a noob. Seems like lazy (game) journalism if that isn't the case. Good to know, anyway.
Yeah no, they are trash.
They stopped at ds2 which I’m glad they did because it makes swapping fashion so much easier!
Never used upgrading armor in any souls game. My problem now was that i just accidentally ran into a late game boss and just thought that i oversaw the ability to upgrade armor
Doesn't seem to be.
You can’t upgrade the armour but you can slightly alter the stats. Go to the cave with the double boss that leads to the dragon church, when you beat them you get an item that allows you to alter some clothes at a grace (it’s mainly things like removing cloaks or putting hoods down etc)
everywhere i read they say “how to upgrade weapons and armor” yet no one explains how to upgrade armor. it’s only weapons and shields. so is there anyway to upgrade armor sets? like hoods, gloves, and chest stuff.
No, upgrading armor isn’t a souls thing.
Couldn’t you do it in the first game though?
You could.
You would think the dozen half-baked articles you get when you search "how to upgrade armor elden ring" would know this instead of gaslighting every noob (like me) that is pulling their hair out right now! They all say specifically that you can upgrade armor at the blacksmith smh...
Nah, from hasn't done that since ds1
Nope
I've beaten Margit and have been to the round table, and I cant seem to find the armor upgrade place. Everything still 2 shots me most times even at level 40 so I'd like to get a bit more tanky before I move on. Is he just out in the world somewhere like roderika or do I have to get a certain place in the story?
Armor upgrading hasn't been a thing since DS2. Just focus on upgrading your vigor and flask. Armor doesn't really make a huge difference in these games.
You cant upgrade armor. You can alter it, but that only changes it slightly. You need more health, not heavier armor. Armor is really o ky for looks, as in souls games, higher armor really only saves you a couple points of health in the long run. Not really worth bogging yourself down with extra weight.
Really? Seems like a huge missed opportunity, who wouldnt want to make their armor protect against higher damage. How are we supposed to become more tanking without upgrading armor or theres no point to heavy armor what so ever?
Okay so it's obvious you're new to these games and that's fine. Heavy armor protects more than light and medium armor and has higher poise (poise is related to how easily you stagger). However heavy armor is...well...heavier so you have to manage your weight more so you don't have a slower roll. In these games dodging is more effective than protecting yourself anyways. As the comment said above, vitality is your friend, you want more health and you may want to learn to dodge.
Hell I’m level 17 and can’t get past many bosses
You’ll want to hit about 25-30 for most bosses up to the first story boss. As others say explore but search for abandoned towns and towers. Avoid big monsters and don’t forget to grab the summons from the church of elleh once you got your steed at the storm front gate
Yeah the game is not low level friendly lol. I just grinded the first enemies in the game over and over because you start out with such little health.
Yea it’s nuts! I JUST beat a rat boss…can’t even get past the boss going towards storm gate
Hi I can only see the upgrhade or strengthen armament in the smithing table and at the round table is there a way to upgrade armour sets?
Little one, this isnt dark souls 1
You can’t.
Arnour provides a % based reduction in damage taken. So there’s no need to keep it up to date with game progression. 15% physical negation means incoming physical damage is multiplied by x0.85, this means it’s efficientivness never changes, it’s always going to be equally effective.
Unlike a weapon. If a +0 sword does 110 damage that’s going to be fine vs early game bosses with 1500 hp, but pure trash vs lategame boss with 20,000 hp, so upgrades are needed to keep the damage dealt relevent.
Dark Souls 1 & 2 used different defense system for armour. It wasn’t % based, so upgrading it to keep it relevent was actually needed. But Bloodborne onwards arnour works by % mitigation so upgrades arnt needed.
Guy in his mid-30s here getting back into gaming. I've been playing Elden Ring for two months and only recently started using smithing stones to strengthen my armament. I'm also an idiot, because I thought increasing Strength would increase the damage done by my weapons. I'm guessing increasing Strength only increases the available weapons you can wield. Whoops.
So I leveled up one of my axes to 9+ Somber Smithing Stones and wow! I can slice through enemies like butter haha.
My vigor is 44, Strength at 32, Endurance at 31. Haven't really increased other stats to be honest.
Damage output is a combination of the stats the weapon scales with, and the upgrade level.
Or rather, the upgrade level increases how much attack rating you get from the stats the weapon scales with.
You can also change which stats the weapon scales with by changing the affinity using the Ash of War system. Keep in mind that weapons that upgrade with somber smithing stones can not change their affinity.
Good to know! 👍😌
"I thought increasing Strength would increase the damage done by my weapons. I'm guessing increasing Strength only increases the available weapons you can wield. Whoops."
It can increase the damage your weapons deal, but by how much depends on how well the weapon scales off of your Strength stat. Check the Attribute Scaling section to seee this info.
From strongest to weakest scanning, the letters go: S>A>B>C>D>E>-. Better the letter, better the scaling.
Gotcha! Appreciate the info 💪
Low level weapons have really low attribute scaling so adding strength will do very little. Upgrading them increases their base damage and the scaling damage they get from attributes
strength levels actually increase your physical resistances as well
Strength can increase damage but it depends on the weapon scaling, its like this
E - bad D - nah C - meh B - good A - yes S - YES
of course, the weapon can be good without high scaling if it has a good raw damage and its upgraded
Ah gotcha! Thank you 🙏
Focus more on upgrades, scaling is more of a extra damage than 100% required
Strength only increases damage of weapons that scale with strength
Basically you won’t need to rely on increases on damage through stats until later (once you’ve gotten vigor to 40 for mid game, 50 or 60 for endgame). Though of you’re at lvl 9 somber you might be at end already.
Get the stat requirements for your preferred weapons (if you 2h, your effective Strength will be 1.5x your base strength), then focus on vitality and endurance. Your smithing upgrades will carry the damage until you are built up enough to start building damage through attributes. Just pay attention to scaling on weapons, your dex rating will always increase from keen, but dex also increases most lightning armaments. Heavy will increase strength affinity, as well as weapon damage with Fire. Cold is increased by Int, and status affects by Arcane.
This should be at the top IMO
I see I’m getting materials to upgrade my armor but I’m not sure where to upgrade them. The smithy is only able to upgrade my weapons. Does anyone know where to upgrade armor at?
Why is a tailor upgrading metal armors? Wtf. Really. What were you thinking? Fix it. Put it back how it was. Cloth armors sure. Just no.
Nothing to 'fix' it has always been this way since the earliest access build. Armor = Tailor and weapons = Smith. I agree it logically is weird, but from a game standpoint can understand it, it makes it easier when considering where do i craft upgrades and such, imagine of you had to do the cloth,leatherwork at one vendor then the chainmail or plates at the smith then bring the metalwork to the tailor/Master Armorer for fitting and final assembly. It would be more realistic sure, but needlessly tedious and gameplay wise, splitting the armor upgrades and purchasing between two vendors would also cause confusion. Yes. They could have just put it all on the Smith, but clearly they wanted two deticated vendors when designing the game.
Tailor shop near the Whisper in Sacrament
The stairs to the left of the whisper in sacrament, the trailer shop is right on them
How to upgrade armor in Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree
Upgrading Armor in Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree
Find Upgrade Materials:
Visit a Blacksmith:
Select Armor Upgrade:
Upgrade Levels:
Consider Armor Sets:
Check Stats:
Recommendation: Focus on upgrading armor that complements your playstyle. For example, if you prefer a tanky build, prioritize heavy armor sets. If you favor mobility, consider upgrading lighter armor for better agility while still providing decent protection.
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